Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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00:01 opkick [pdl-io-gd] zmughal closed issue #1: Enable service integrations http://git.io/vkK7q
15:38 opkick [pdl] wchristian pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vkAER
15:38 opkick pdl/master 9129b36 Chris Marshall: Update VERION to 2.011_01 for more development
17:43 opkick [pdl] wchristian pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vkxuT
17:43 opkick pdl/master 2d7c932 Derek Lamb: Let PDL::DiskCache::sync accept an argument of which element to sync....
17:43 opkick pdl/master 81b5f37 Derek Lamb: 2 small cleanups in slices.pd...
17:48 opkick [pdl] wchristian pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vkxgW
17:48 opkick pdl/master b55b188 Derek Lamb: Add curly braces to remove -Wdangline-else...
18:49 mohawk sivoais, could you touch base with chm on this (though i think he already agreed), then rebase changesfix and when passes travis, merge?
18:50 sivoais mohawk: you caught me at the right time! I've got some time for a couple hours
18:54 opkick [pdl] zmughal force-pushed test-cleanup-3 from 04e74e5 to 0bbaf96: http://git.io/vT7A9
18:54 opkick pdl/test-cleanup-3 c8bdc85 Zakariyya Mughal: test cleanup: t/bool.t
18:54 opkick pdl/test-cleanup-3 cb3e1da Zakariyya Mughal: test cleanup: t/clump.t
18:54 opkick pdl/test-cleanup-3 3c365fa Zakariyya Mughal: test cleanup: t/familyfree.t
19:02 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdl#240 (master - 9129b36 : Chris Marshall): The build passed.
19:02 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdl/c​ompare/fa428b082616...9129b3664475
19:02 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/PDLPo​rters/pdl/builds/65265777
19:15 opkick [pdl] zmughal tagged v2.009_01 at ed2a70c: http://git.io/vkpLG
20:13 mohawk sivoais, hell yeah
20:14 mohawk sivoais, i'm keen to see changesfix get merged
20:30 opkick [pdl] zmughal force-pushed changesfix from 6689697 to a96c184: http://git.io/pxve
20:30 opkick pdl/changesfix de5f90a Ed J: Changes file maintained by person not dumped from git log
20:30 opkick pdl/changesfix 841aeb1 Zakariyya Mughal: rename Release_Notes to Changes...
20:30 opkick pdl/changesfix 19bbbe5 Zakariyya Mughal: remove install notes and warning about PDL C-API changes
20:34 opkick [pdl] zmughal force-pushed test-cleanup-3 from 0bbaf96 to 8733e16: http://git.io/vT7A9
20:34 opkick pdl/test-cleanup-3 5e62c72 Zakariyya Mughal: test cleanup: t/familyfree.t
20:34 opkick pdl/test-cleanup-3 9f342bb Zakariyya Mughal: test cleanup: t/gauss.t
20:34 opkick pdl/test-cleanup-3 bedffad Zakariyya Mughal: test cleanup: t/hdrs.t
20:40 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdl#241 (master - 81b5f37 : Derek Lamb): The build passed.
20:40 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdl/c​ompare/9129b3664475...81b5f37981d3
20:40 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/PDLPo​rters/pdl/builds/65284213
20:48 mohawk sivoais, are you intending to merge changesfix once it's passed?
20:50 opkick [pdl] zmughal pushed 1 new commit to test-cleanup-3: http://git.io/vkpDk
20:50 opkick pdl/test-cleanup-3 e2cf894 Zakariyya Mughal: update TODO to remove the test refactoring items...
20:51 mohawk sivoais, i'm cancelling the current t-c-3 builds since that new commit will trigger another one and i want changesfix next
20:51 mohawk with that in mind, i'll also cancel current master build since cf incorporates that
20:51 mohawk make sense to you?
20:53 sivoais mohawk: go for it and thanks!
20:54 mohawk welcome
20:55 mohawk only scheduled job is now cf
20:55 mohawk soon as that passes, it's getting merged
20:55 mohawk it's time
20:55 mohawk god damned 242 restarted itself
20:55 mohawk and again
20:58 mohawk finally, 244 (cf) starts booting
20:58 opkick [pdl] zmughal comment on issue #78: Sent to @PDLPorters <http://permalink.gmane.org/gman​e.comp.lang.perl.pdl.devel/6502> http://git.io/vkpHt
20:59 opkick [pdl] zmughal comment on issue #109: Sent to @PDLPorters <http://permalink.gmane.org/gman​e.comp.lang.perl.pdl.devel/6502> http://git.io/vkpHR
21:00 mohawk sivoais, fine work
21:01 sivoais hehe, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502>
21:01 mohawk yes, i recognised the number ;-)
22:23 opkick [pdl] coveralls comment on issue #78:
22:24 opkick [pdl-io-gd] mohawk2 comment on issue #2: The steps for this are:... http://git.io/vkhZg
22:37 mohawk hm, i was expecting notifications about my push
22:37 opkick [pdl] zmughal closed issue #67: Create a hand-written Changes file http://git.io/pQiD
22:37 opkick [pdl] zmughal comment on issue #67: Closed via #78. http://git.io/vkhCp
22:52 opkick [pdl-io-gd] mohawk2 created master (+39 new commits): http://git.io/vkh4U
22:52 opkick pdl-io-gd/master 2542814 Judd Taylor: JT  (12-Apr-2006)...
22:52 opkick pdl-io-gd/master aead932 Judd Taylor: General updates to the makefile, and simple bugfixes in the code.
22:52 opkick pdl-io-gd/master 60bea81 Douglas Burke: Added .cvsignore
22:54 opkick [pdl-io-gd] mohawk2 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vkh4r
22:54 opkick pdl-io-gd/master 1ba1ceb Ed J: Add 01-checkmanifest.t
22:59 sivoais mohawk++
23:03 opkick [pdl-io-gd] mohawk2 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vkhRA
23:03 opkick pdl-io-gd/master db9b124 Ed J: Travis ENGAGE
23:04 mohawk p-i-g's build is going to take AGES
23:04 mohawk because it has to install the whole of PDL for each one
23:05 mohawk https://travis-ci.org/PDLPort​ers/pdl-io-gd/builds/65328003
23:08 mohawk sivoais, can i ask you to work with chm on you gaining comaint on PIG, then releasing it?
23:09 mohawk when that's done, we can make a branch in pdl and remove PIG from it
23:10 mohawk as a point of strategy: how keen is chm really on the idea of "PDL still installs EVERYTHING"? if he's happy to drop that, then we won't need a separate core distro, we can just quickly spin out everything and then "PDL" will just be the core
23:10 mohawk sivoais, your thoughts?
23:14 mohawk jberger, yours too :-)
23:19 sivoais mohawk: I'll get in contact
23:21 mohawk nice
23:21 sivoais I like the idea of making PDL install the minimum possible, but at the same time, this will mean people will need to find out what exactly they are using and update any install scripts
23:27 mohawk ok
23:28 mohawk in that case, we should spin out PDL::Core as a separate distro ASAP, though NOT as a separate repo - we should work off my branch
23:28 mohawk ASAP so that all the build/test for the other spun-out ones that now dep on PDL::Core are relatively quick
23:28 mohawk sivoais, agree?
23:29 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdl#247 (master - a96c184 : Zakariyya Mughal): The build passed.
23:29 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdl/c​ompare/b55b18893b28...a96c18403ecf
23:29 travis-ci Build details : http://travis-ci.org/PDLPo​rters/pdl/builds/65325232
23:31 sivoais mohawk: I agree.
23:31 sivoais do you want me to create a pdl-core repo?
23:32 sivoais on GitHub
23:33 sivoais I'll go ahead and create it. I've got to go get groceries and eat dinner, but I'll be back in a couple hours
23:39 mohawk sivoais, i don't
23:40 sivoais welp
23:40 mohawk i want to keep it as a branch off main pdl
23:40 mohawk although that does make tagging trickier, i guess
23:40 mohawk actually, go ahead
23:40 mohawk i can copy the history over, it'll be fine
23:41 sivoais the IPython project is undergoing a similar splitting + renaming
23:41 sivoais just fyi
23:41 mohawk so: please do make a pdl-core
23:41 sivoais yeah, done!
23:41 mohawk and enchant it :-)
23:42 mohawk sivoais++
23:42 sivoais enchantment in progress
23:42 mohawk please get buy-in from chm re releasing a PDL::Core, and then PDL very soon after with a dep on PDL::Core but everything else still in
23:43 mohawk please ask for comaint for you and me on PDL::Core
23:45 sivoais right, I'll add another message to that splitting thread with an update on progress
23:46 jberger Can P I G run just off of PDL::Core?
23:48 mohawk jberger, do you believe it can't?
23:48 mohawk i haven't tried install just my cut-down core yet
23:49 jberger I would hope that it could
23:49 mohawk i haven't tried
23:49 jberger I was just asking idly
23:49 mohawk since so far it's moot
23:49 mohawk grin
23:50 mohawk when we release pdl::core, we'll try pig and then update it as necessary
23:56 mohawk all green lights on p-i-g so far
23:56 mohawk sivoais, it may also make sense for me to have comaint on at lease PIG as well
23:57 opkick [pdl-core] zmughal closed issue #1: Enable service integrations http://git.io/vkhoh

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