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00:17 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 created master (+4246 new commits): http://git.io/vGctZ
00:17 opkick pdla-core/master 7a9634c Karl Glazebrook: Import v1.00alpha
00:17 opkick pdla-core/master 919a332 Karl Glazebrook: Import v1.00_alpha
00:17 opkick pdla-core/master bf4bbd9 Karl Glazebrook: Import v1.01
00:21 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdl-core#1 (master - 724d27b : Ed J): The build has errored.
00:21 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/compare/7a9634c51b8b^...724d27b7506a
00:21 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdl-core/builds/77871460
00:27 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-core#1 (master - 724d27b : Ed J): The build has errored.
00:27 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/compare/7a9634c51b8b^...724d27b7506a
00:27 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-core/builds/77871460
00:32 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGcmQ
00:32 opkick pdla-core/master a46d2e0 Ed J: Make README and metadata reflect core-only location
00:39 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-core#2 (master - a46d2e0 : Ed J): The build passed.
00:39 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/compare/724d27b7506a...a46d2e02cec4
00:39 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-core/builds/77872268
00:41 mohawk sivoais, 7 mins between push and build result for core-only
00:41 mohawk not too shabby
00:53 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 created pdldocfix (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vGcOh
00:53 opkick pdla-core/pdldocfix 41288ce Ed J: Add PDLA::Doc::add_module to pdlpp_postamble
00:54 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 opened pull request #3: Add PDLA::Doc::add_module to pdlpp_postamble (master...pdldocfix) http://git.io/vGc3U
00:54 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 commented on issue #13: Closing in favour of https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/pull/3 http://git.io/vGc3t
00:55 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted pdldocfix at 0cbcc43: http://git.io/vGc3q
00:57 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted basis-coreonly at 724d27b: http://git.io/vGc3l
00:57 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted basis at 0becc49: http://git.io/vGc3B
01:16 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 created removeGENERATED (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vGcGx
01:16 opkick pdla-core/removeGENERATED 8726158 Ed J: Remove the code making GENERATED/*
01:17 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted removeGENERATED at d66db9b: http://git.io/vGcZv
01:22 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 created RedoDimsCode-fix (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vGcZC
01:22 opkick pdla-core/RedoDimsCode-fix 99ff5d1 Craig DeForest: Added a fix to RedoDims that allows actually setting the $SIZE macro....
01:23 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted RedoDimsCode-fix at 84b7335: http://git.io/vGcZu
01:29 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 opened pull request #4: Added a fix to RedoDims that allows actually setting the $SIZE macro. (master...RedoDimsCode-fix) http://git.io/vGcn3
01:30 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 commented on pull request #4 99ff5d1: See my comment https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdl/commit/84b73358133b18ace9673cce5f244225c49ca980#commitcomment-11012517 http://git.io/vGcns
01:30 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 opened pull request #5: Remove the code making GENERATED/* (master...removeGENERATED) http://git.io/vGcnn
01:38 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 created range-speedup (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vGccZ
01:38 opkick pdla-core/range-speedup 5627b9d Craig DeForest: Speeds up range by 20%-50% depending on use pattern, just by not copying the index variable extra times.
01:41 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 opened pull request #6: Range speedup (master...range-speedup) http://git.io/vGccP
01:41 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted range-speedup at 821e7c6: http://git.io/vGccy
01:42 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 created doc/vsearch-example (+2 new commits): http://git.io/vGcCY
01:45 opkick pdla-core/doc/vsearch-example 5b62b00 Zakariyya Mughal: add vsearch example...
01:45 opkick pdla-core/doc/vsearch-example f715da3 Zakariyya Mughal: add links to other vsearch_* functions
01:45 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 opened pull request #7: Doc/vsearch example (master...doc/vsearch-example) http://git.io/vGcCE
01:45 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted doc/vsearch-example at 1c81f76: http://git.io/vGcCo
01:47 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 created hainest-assgn_badflag (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vGcCd
01:47 opkick pdla-core/hainest-assgn_badflag 41e8c43 Tim Haines: Add propagation of badflag with .= (Ops::assgn) for sf.net bug 3543056.
01:47 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 opened pull request #8: Add propagation of badflag with .= (Ops::assgn) for sf.net bug 3543056. (master...hainest-assgn_badflag) http://git.io/vGcCb
01:47 opkick [pdla] mohawk2 deleted hainest-assgn_badflag at 22d290a: http://git.io/vGcCp
01:58 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGcWN
01:58 opkick pdla-core/master 4527223 Ed J: Move t/simplex.t to kitchen-sink/Libtmp/Simplex/t
02:11 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-core#9 (master - 4527223 : Ed J): The build passed.
02:11 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/compare/a46d2e02cec4...4527223e055c
02:11 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-core/builds/77877086
02:12 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGc8P
02:12 opkick pdla-core/master 986cca9 Ed J: Changes, 2.013004
02:15 mohawk PDLA::Core uploaded to cpan
02:15 mohawk #nobigdeal
02:16 mohawk unfortunately having made PDLA dep on Alien::HDF4 rather than merely making use of it means you can temporarily only install PDLA if you have a lib[h]df installed
02:16 mohawk but fear not, gentle pdla fans
02:16 mohawk this will be fixed shortly
02:17 mohawk in fact, the most obvious fix is just to spin out PDLA::IO::HDF* and eliminate the problem at source
02:17 mohawk such that PDLA::BigJobs won't have that problem
02:20 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-core#10 (master - 986cca9 : Ed J): The build passed.
02:20 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/compare/4527223e055c...986cca973a48
02:20 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-core/builds/77877670
02:44 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGc08
02:44 opkick pdla-core/master 632d42e Ed J: 2.013005
02:44 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 tagged pdla2.013005 at master: http://git.io/vGc0E
02:52 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-core#11 (master - 632d42e : Ed J): The build passed.
02:52 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/compare/986cca973a48...632d42eb7950
02:52 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-core/builds/77878930
05:07 mohawk https://metacpan.org/release/PDLA-Core
05:53 mohawk sivoais, if you could point me at where to read to enchant a repo, that would be awesome
05:54 mohawk i've got a script that does most of the work of extracting a subdir into another repo
05:54 sivoais mohawk: <https://github.com/PDLPorters/devops/blob/master/NOTES.md#create-repo>
05:54 mohawk magic
05:55 mohawk later all
05:55 sivoais you need to go into the repo settings and add the Travis + IRC services
05:56 sivoais the enchant script current just sets up the IRC settings. Those are the most time consuming since you have to fill out the form with all the connection info
05:56 mohawk ok
05:56 mohawk night!
06:20 sivoais o/
06:20 sivoais night
06:20 sivoais !
12:39 mohawk we do need to get to a stage where it's all automatic
13:58 mohawk module versions are both hard and annoying
14:35 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/vGWLj
14:35 opkick pdla-core/master 7ebc3a8 Ed J: Metadata correction
14:35 opkick pdla-core/master a7421e5 Ed J: need to hardcode version
14:35 opkick pdla-core/master 3df9f6c Ed J: Update version numbers with:...
14:35 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 tagged pdla2.013006 at master: http://git.io/vGWte
14:39 mohawk sivoais, do you use perlbrew at all?
14:40 sivoais mohawk: for all my Perl dev. System perl is for system utils only.
14:41 mohawk i'm thinking some sort of pdl-d top tips email with "here is 5 lines to get you using perlbrew and carton"
14:41 mohawk (i don't know how to use carton but i'm fairly sure i get what it's for)
14:41 sivoais or pinto
14:41 mohawk especially perlbrew lib, which i started using this morning
14:41 mohawk it's dead good
14:42 mohawk or pinto, whose name i've also heard
14:42 mohawk i'd say pick whichever one is fewer lines for this notional email
14:42 sivoais local::lib, yeah! I used that often to fence off different development so they don't interfere
14:42 mohawk "i am terrified of changing software version, ever"
14:42 mohawk "don't be afraid, citizen! cut and paste this snippet and fear no more!"
14:43 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-core#12 (master - ecb55f5 : Ed J): The build passed.
14:43 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-core/compare/632d42eb7950...ecb55f58744e
14:43 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-core/builds/77921830
14:43 mohawk cor, look at that speed
14:43 mohawk BLISTERING
14:43 mohawk 7-8 minutes for PDLA::Core to be CI-ed now
14:43 mohawk not an hour
14:44 * sivoais is speechless
14:44 sivoais that's amazing
14:44 sivoais that's just simly amazing
14:44 sivoais simply
14:44 sivoais mohawk++
14:44 mohawk inorite
14:44 sivoais \o/
14:45 mohawk i did mention my forecast this month of how quick it could be, after i got the container CI going with your indispensible help
14:45 sivoais now I can see no reason for someone to *NOT* dep on PDL::Core
14:45 mohawk ahem
14:45 mohawk you mistyped
14:45 sivoais PDLA::Core
14:45 sivoais yes
14:45 mohawk grin
14:45 sivoais yes
14:46 sivoais it takes less time to install than Moose + tests
14:46 mohawk installing is super quick
14:46 mohawk (relatively speaking)
14:47 mohawk could i ask you to look at enchantment automation? i'm probably going to need it a few times and i hate to bug you
14:47 mohawk if you could see your way to doing pdla-io-hdf though, that would be great
14:48 sivoais mohawk: btw, is this still enough to cover using subtree <https://github.com/PDLPorters/devops/blob/master/NOTES.md#how-to-split-history>?
14:48 mohawk see https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf/issues/1
14:49 mohawk that was pretty much perfectly automatic
14:49 mohawk i'll be pleased to PR updates on devops if you can incorporate that this time
14:50 mohawk may i also suggest switching devops to pdla throughout rather than pdl
14:50 mohawk that horse died
14:50 sivoais right, the table
14:50 mohawk and the bare cloning bit
14:51 mohawk the README could use some affection too :-)
14:53 mohawk the enchant script still needs more explaining in comments as to literally what to put in what file - remember i'm not very good at computers
14:53 mohawk also, the `` could usefully switch to $()
14:54 mohawk it might also be useful to require a full repo spec, instead of hardcoding PDLPorters/
14:54 mohawk moar generality ;-)
14:54 mohawk in less badgery news, i think pdla-io-hdf is ready for primetime
14:55 sivoais ok, I'm switching it to Perl. It mostly is, but I'm going the whole way.
14:55 mohawk our first legitimately split-out repo that can dep on PDLA::Core
14:55 mohawk shell is great!
14:55 mohawk don't be embarrassed about it
14:55 mohawk it just has to be usable for the dim like me
14:55 mohawk i use hybrid perl/shell stuff all the time, viz my git-subtree doodah
14:56 sivoais I'm not. The script now needs to do multiple things. Add the services. Enable the Travis-CI thing
14:56 sivoais create the repo if it doesn't exist
14:56 mohawk whoa
14:56 mohawk let's not run before we can walk
14:57 mohawk i'd suggest creating repo is fine to do by humans for now
14:57 mohawk leave that to v2 ;-)
14:57 mohawk (pleased to report Core 006 indexes fine)
14:57 sivoais well, it's easy actually. git hub repo-new PDLPorters/pdla-*
14:57 sivoais with App::github
14:57 mohawk fair enough
14:57 mohawk in that case, crack on ;-)
15:00 opkick [devops] zmughal pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGW3x
15:00 opkick devops/master 5534b5a Zakariyya Mughal: improve the subtree split recipe
15:02 mohawk welcome to 2015, people
15:02 mohawk enjoy your stay
15:12 mohawk when we announce we'll want to give an example of how to use (preferably with perlbrew / carton) the new scheme rather than "use PDL" = kitchen sink + 15 hours
15:13 mohawk i have ideas on how to make a distro even easier than the non-maintained pptemplate
15:13 mohawk i also want to fix PDLA::PP so it's not piss-poor internally
15:13 mohawk i may have mentioned that already ;-)
15:13 sivoais yeah
15:15 mohawk may i ask if PA::I::H is enchanted?
15:15 mohawk i'd like to run it through CI before i release
15:16 mohawk to be fairer and more accurate, PDL*::PP is good enough to have supported some fantastic science and worked so well it's never really needed rewriting
15:17 mohawk however, there are opportunities to make it more maintainable
15:19 mohawk i want to move the PDLA core over to have bad-value processing not as a compile-time option, but as a switchable feature
15:20 mohawk apart from anything else, i can't think of a good way to test eg PAIH with/without badval, because PA::Core will just be there and installed and not differently-buildable
15:23 sivoais exactly
15:23 sivoais perldl.conf sets things up for everything else
15:23 mohawk PAIH - enchanted? :-)
15:23 sivoais hdf
15:23 sivoais right, let's see
15:24 opkick [pdla-core] mohawk2 opened issue #9: Make bad-value handling run-time choice not compile-time http://git.io/vGWCC
15:25 * mohawk is writing the travis.yml
15:26 opkick [pdla-io-hdf] zmughal opened issue #2: Enchant http://git.io/vGWC9
15:26 mohawk cor
15:29 sivoais all but appveyor for now
15:29 sivoais keeping the issue open until I come back to that
15:31 mohawk awesome!
15:45 opkick [pdla-io-hdf] mohawk2 pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/vGW4x
15:45 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master 77c3163 Ed J: Distro-level MANIFEST*
15:45 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master d78dd82 Ed J: Moar tests
15:45 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master 5461b04 Ed J: Travis CI
15:45 mohawk let the travis-ening begin
15:50 mohawk ...and fail
15:50 mohawk on the plus side, that's really quick
15:50 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf#1 (master - 5461b04 : Ed J): The build has errored.
15:50 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf/compare/245c2c076232...5461b04c2534
15:50 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf/builds/77927776
15:52 mohawk sivoais, am i missing something or should "  - cpan-install --deps       # installs prereqs, including recommends" be before_install, not install?
15:53 opkick [pdla-io-hdf] mohawk2 force-pushed master from 5461b04 to 93fb7db: http://git.io/vGW0o
15:53 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master 93fb7db Ed J: Travis CI
15:57 mohawk ah, seems it's because it can't install deps without either a META.* or MYMETA.*
15:57 sivoais i think this was part of the separation of author-side and user-side
15:57 mohawk need to make Makefile.PL able to run without its deps
15:57 mohawk i think it's the above
16:22 sivoais mohawk: what's the next repo you want to make?
16:22 mohawk dang good question
16:23 mohawk is pdla-io-gd good to go?
16:23 mohawk if not, what's one you'd like to see split out?
16:24 sivoais PDL(A)::IO::FITS seems like a good one
16:24 sivoais though that means some of the tests will need to move out as well
16:25 mohawk ha
16:25 opkick [pdla-io-hdf] mohawk2 force-pushed master from 93fb7db to e9a35a0: http://git.io/vGW0o
16:25 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master 1e130a4 Ed J: Distro-level MANIFEST*
16:25 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master 992d4c3 Ed J: Moar tests
16:25 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master 8a7dcbc Ed J: Makefile.PL to be robust if deps not there so can output deps
16:25 mohawk look at pdla-c/kitchen sink
16:25 mohawk all squared away
16:25 mohawk yes, let's have pdla-io-fits
16:25 sivoais mohawk++
16:25 sivoais awesome
16:25 sivoais ok, this is just for me to test it for myself
16:26 sivoais or should you do it
16:26 mohawk if i'm making lots of progress this w/e it's because a) you've been amazing; b) i had done a lot of stuff already
16:26 mohawk no, you go ahead
16:26 mohawk may as well have a couple of goes before you unleash it :-)
16:27 opkick [devops] zmughal pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGWrD
16:27 opkick devops/master 9c4cecf Zakariyya Mughal: update the enchant script to create a repo and add the service hooks (Travis, IRC)
16:29 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf#3 (master - e9a35a0 : Ed J): The build has errored.
16:29 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf/compare/93fb7dbc38f1...e9a35a0d11a9
16:29 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf/builds/77931275
16:30 mohawk it certainly has
16:30 mohawk still scratching my head over why
16:32 opkick [pdla-io-hdf] mohawk2 force-pushed master from e9a35a0 to b5f87b8: http://git.io/vGW0o
16:32 opkick pdla-io-hdf/master b5f87b8 Ed J: Travis CI
16:33 mohawk while we wait for that, let's nail the last remaining pdla-c branch - the infamous LLDF, currently caked in a merge of master because that's how legacy devs work
16:35 mohawk i have a crazy dream kentnl will help us get PDLA::C as a debian package so this kind of CI will be instantaneous
16:35 mohawk in fact, i'll ping him now
16:36 mohawk it'd also make science stuff eeeeeven easier
16:37 travis-ci PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf#4 (master - b5f87b8 : Ed J): The build passed.
16:37 travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf/compare/e9a35a0d11a9...b5f87b824095
16:37 travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/PDLPorters/pdla-io-hdf/builds/77931912
16:37 mohawk holy cow
16:37 mohawk success AND speed
16:38 mohawk we have a chm email
16:38 mohawk not reading it for now
16:38 opkick [pdla-io-fits] zmughal commented on issue #1: PDLA-IO-FITS now supports Travis-CI and IRC. The others will come later (mainly because their web UIs require too many clicks). http://git.io/vGW6x
16:39 mohawk would web::scraper help with automatically clicking?
16:39 opkick [devops] zmughal pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGWiY
16:39 opkick devops/master 120c963 Zakariyya Mughal: fix the GitHub hooks URL and give manual instructions for the Enchant issue
16:39 sivoais mohawk: it might, but I'd prefer an API
16:39 sivoais Travis has an API
16:39 sivoais it also has a ruby command line tool!
16:40 sivoais that's enough for today. I'll look into the ruby tool another day
16:42 mohawk grin
16:42 opkick [pdla-io-hdf] mohawk2 tagged v2.013006 at master: http://git.io/vGWiF
16:42 mohawk PAIH heading to a CPAN near you
16:47 sivoais mohawk: ok, so enchant now handles creating a repo and adding the Travis + IRC service. You still need to go into the Travis-CI login, hit sync, and enable it for the new repo
16:47 mohawk that's great
16:47 sivoais enchant outputs text you can stick in a new issue. All you have to do is follow all the links to see if they work
16:47 mohawk PAIH reported OK by PAUSE
16:47 mohawk holy cow, you're really spoiling us lazy devs ;-)
16:48 sivoais i stole alot of the code from my own <https://github.com/SeeLucid/p5-Project-Manager> that I've been working on and off with
16:48 sivoais a lot
16:49 sivoais that project will eventually let me grab project metadata from all over (GitHub, Bitbucket, RT, etc.)
16:49 mohawk wow
16:49 sivoais laziness++
16:50 mohawk 21st century wizardry
16:50 mohawk sivoais++ # the man
16:50 sivoais .oO( 21st Century Schizoid Man! ) # good album
16:51 sivoais :-P
16:51 sivoais anyway, I have to eat and go to the lab
16:51 mohawk bon appetit, amigo
16:51 chm joined #pdl
16:51 mohawk i'll be off in 20 mins or so too
16:51 mohawk hi chm
16:52 chm hi, sivoais
16:52 chm hi, mohawk
16:52 sivoais hello! o/
16:52 chm I just posted a summary of where I think things have moved in the past week/day/second
16:52 sivoais I'm about to heat up some food, but I'll be around while I dash about
16:52 chm Please follow up since we need to give existing devels a heads up.
16:53 chm mohawk: Please do read and follow up as I'm trying to connect the dots with PDL and PDLA
16:53 mohawk i did read it, not sure what you'd like thoughts on?
16:53 sivoais right, I read those. They seem to adequately cover the direction we're going towards.
16:54 sivoais well, on my end, I want more people on GitHub (and if they can, in #pdl). We can help them get up to speed on the development if we can talk in realtime.
16:54 sivoais The e-mail list is great. I love e-mail, but we need both
16:55 mohawk sivoais or i will make an announcement in a day or two with the state of PDLA
16:55 mohawk that will include a steer on how to migrate
16:55 mohawk chm - aha, just saw your longer email
16:56 sivoais chm: mohawk had a suggestion earlier today for writing up a document to show people how to use {carton, pinto, perlbrew} to address the some of the stability concerns you mentioned
16:57 chm sivoais: a possible start would be improving the "Get PDL" on the web site.
16:57 mohawk chm, thanks for the blessing for PDLA
16:57 sivoais so we'll have a nice little document that can get even beginners to use it
16:57 chm I think it might be under a bit of bitrot at the moment
16:57 sivoais chm: good idea. I'll make a note of that
16:58 chm mohawk, sivoais:  I'm going to try to ping Judd re PDL::IO::GD one more time.
16:58 sivoais chm: would it be a bad time to ask about moving the website to GitHub as well? jberger has done quite a bit of work on making it work smoothly and it will indeed allow for faster turn-around
16:59 mohawk chm, no need
16:59 chm At that point, maybe your plan could include when/how to hand off maint and perms.
16:59 chm sivoais: I was never against the website on github, just that I couldn't maintain it.
17:00 chm Now that we have live developers to do so, maybe we should think about sunsetting sf.net.
17:00 sivoais it's just a git repository <https://github.com/PDLPorters/pdlporters.github.com>
17:00 mohawk sivoais, once we've got PDLA going code-wise, we need a bit of a shove on a website to bring jberger's excellent effort up to date
17:00 chm Perhaps that could be a discussion for another day though.
17:00 sivoais ok, good good. That's fine. It's not urgent.
17:01 chm Got to go, nice work on the PDLA stuff.  Sorry it is so obviously the way to go (in my hind sight).
17:01 mohawk sivoais, if you have spare capacity at some point, would like your view on pdla-c PRs
17:01 chm o/
17:01 mohawk chm, ciao
17:03 opkick [pdla-core] zmughal commented on issue #7: I'm fine with this, of course! http://git.io/vGWSF
17:09 sivoais mohawk: it will take me a while to get to those. Need to study them when I have a good solid hour
17:09 mohawk no problem!
17:18 * mohawk can't remember whether pdla-stats is magic yet
17:21 opkick [pdla-stats] zmughal opened issue #1: Enchant http://git.io/vGW5M
17:24 mohawk aha!
20:15 opkick [pdl] wchristian pushed 1 new commit to longlong-double-fix: http://git.io/vGlgK
20:15 opkick pdl/longlong-double-fix d0e1cc9 kmx: longlong fix for "Invalid type q in pack" (related to perl without 64bit int)

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