Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl.pl, 2013-06-27

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15:31 Getty tjmc: huhuhuhhhu, stress day, eh? ;)
15:31 Getty aehm tadzik i mean
15:31 Getty LOL
15:31 Getty shit
15:31 Getty cant you guys take nicknames without t at the start?
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18:37 tjmc czesc :)
19:25 cranix Hi
20:23 tadzik Getty: stress day?
20:23 Getty i just saw the opera press information about the hacker and cert stealing
20:28 tadzik yeah
20:28 tadzik so you meant stress week
20:31 * cranix from 21:00 have holiday :D
20:32 Getty oh that came out earlier?
20:32 tadzik nothing I can say
20:32 Getty thought that was released today, sorry just had seen a copy of the text in some article
20:32 Getty so i dont know when it was official released the statement
20:33 tadzik the press release was tuesday or smthng
20:33 Getty its actually funny: in germany you guys now had a serious lawsuit just by the report time
20:33 Getty would have ;)
20:33 Getty there is a law for 24 hours publicity time for those kind of events to providers now in germany
20:34 tadzik it may have been 24 hours after the incident
20:34 Getty mh? wasnt there something about... 16. june or something? whatever, not relevant
20:34 Getty always fucked up situation
20:34 Getty especially as browser
20:34 tadzik yeah
20:35 Getty its not like you guys have a good position right now
20:35 Getty and now this.... ;)
20:35 Getty timing suxx and murhpy always hits dirty
20:35 Getty i still wait for a DDG disaster, but they are not coming
20:35 Getty its ridicioulus how less negative feedback we get
20:35 Getty actually its like.... none
20:35 Getty there is just one guy ranting: the google master sEO
20:35 Getty he really hates us
20:36 tadzik hehhehe
20:36 tadzik so, I now have xmpp on your server
20:36 tadzik I hope this amazon shit is encrypted?
20:36 Getty its funny, the mother of the developer of prosody our xmpp server software, is also a dukgo.com user now
20:36 Getty what encrypted?
20:37 tadzik you know, things
20:37 Getty how we can encrypt that?
20:37 Getty think about it what encryption means (a secure one)
20:37 Getty it means: giving pw on every boot
20:37 Getty all those encrypt psychos
20:38 Getty as long as there is an automatized decryption workflow then its pointless to encrypt
20:38 Getty and if we have a non automatize decryption then its pointless for liability of the infrastructure
20:39 tadzik the server is on amazon aws, right?
20:39 tadzik so can amazon lookup my xmpp roster?
20:40 tadzik it's not like you reboot these every other day
20:42 Getty what the fuck? you think they have a secret layer in between to access our DB files on the server?
20:42 Getty uuuhhhhh high tech
20:43 tadzik hold on. These are their servers, aren't they?
20:44 Getty yes, but virtualized servers on them
20:44 Getty so they would have to read my filesystem while i use it
20:44 tadzik what is stopping them from looking inside?
20:44 Getty nothing, as would every other provider we use
20:45 Topic for #perl.pl is now Perl in Poland
20:45 tadzik I see
20:45 Getty if he has transparent access to our fileystem
20:45 Getty actually i have no clue how you would make encryption
20:45 Getty of some big databases
20:45 Getty how does that work with like 4 GB of ram?
20:46 tadzik it's usually on the fly
20:48 Getty yeah but i mean.. seriously.... all the DB access and stuff?
20:49 Getty i mean its privacy to a decent level, if we have an option for scaled XMPP server with several nodes we can think about this

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