Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl11, 2013-12-30

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17:34 basiliscos Hi there! :)
17:47 bulk88 will_the_chill u have a visitor
18:19 rurban We would recommend basiliscos putting a $DB::single=1; in Inline::check_config_file and stepping it himself to solve the problem
18:39 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: howdy!
18:39 Will_the_Chill bulk88: thanks for the heads-up, I was afk
18:43 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: if you know how to use the debugger and can do what rurban just recommended, that would be helpful.  I think out of myself, bulk88, mst, and rurban, the only one who is good at using the debugger is rurban, haha!
18:44 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: if you don't know how to use the debugger, then I think mst has some questions and ideas that will allow us to move ahead without using the debugger.
18:46 Will_the_Chill brb
18:48 rurban debugging Inline is the worst. really
18:49 rurban that's the only reason why I'm not using it
18:57 basiliscos OK, I'm in :)
18:57 basiliscos wait a bit
19:12 basiliscos here is the output in debugger, what I met yesterday http://bpaste.net/show/163144/
19:14 basiliscos Although, it not explains, why it behaves so. I'm still doing an debug
19:40 Will_the_Chill I'm looking
19:41 Will_the_Chill ingy: perhaps you could shed some light on the issue, seeing as how you wrote Inline?  :)
19:50 basiliscos OK, I have localized a bit the buggy code
19:51 basiliscos http://bpaste.net/show/163161/
19:53 basiliscos the config file is created via system $perl
19:53 basiliscos http://bpaste.net/show/163164/
19:54 basiliscos the last paste contains that command to create config, and the config heavily depends on included directories
19:55 basiliscos if I omit -Ilib than, the config file is OK
19:56 basiliscos mst, Will_the_Chill - any comments ?
20:07 Will_the_Chill okay hang on
20:09 Will_the_Chill well that's interesting
20:09 Will_the_Chill not sure if it's a bug with Inline or RPerl or local::lib to be honest!
20:09 Will_the_Chill mst, ingy?
20:10 bulk88 get a process server to track ingy down, idle 111 hours
20:11 basiliscos Is it reproducible on your host?
20:11 Will_the_Chill bulk88: XD lololol
20:12 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: mst and I both have not encountered your errors
20:12 Will_the_Chill I have not reproduced your results yet
20:12 Will_the_Chill mst is the right guy for the job, especially if ingy is MIA
20:13 Will_the_Chill I can fix some parts of RPerl if it turns out that is necessary
20:13 Will_the_Chill otherwise we may need to fix some parts of Inline, etc.
20:14 basiliscos what is the need to ship Include.pm with lib ? Do you fixed it?
20:14 basiliscos Inline.pm
20:15 bulk88 i know of universities, where due to generators and battery banks, a 10 year old Dell can have a browser window open for half a decade doing AJAX polling from the last time someone was in the lab room, the lab rooms belongs to various emeritus profs who are never on campus or do any research, but nobody dares suggest to revoke their real estate in the university, occasionally students can
20:15 bulk88 semi-legit obtain a key to the abandoned labs and use them as a brothel
20:16 Will_the_Chill bulk88: WHAT in the heck are you talking about, hahaha!
20:16 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: no I haven't messed with that yet
20:16 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: mst is going to help make the final decision on that one
20:17 bulk88 on your ajax/dhtml sites, always put a poll counter limit, the website might be open in a browser tab for years, seriously
20:18 Will_the_Chill bulk88: still don't know how we got to ajax polling???
20:19 bulk88 i went off topic
20:19 basiliscos Will_the_Chill: further investigations: is is enough to remove just lib/Inline/C.pm to get it work, no need of lib/Inline.pm removal
20:19 Will_the_Chill bulk88: wow that was confusing to me, haha!
20:19 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: great info!
20:20 basiliscos Will_the_Chill: I tried to do "cp /home/nemo/perl5/lib/perl5/Inline/C.pm lib/Inline/C.pm" - the result is the same (i.e. only C in the config)
20:21 basiliscos so, the bug, is not in your code
20:22 Will_the_Chill nice!
20:22 Will_the_Chill that makes me happy.  :)
20:22 Will_the_Chill we can blame somebody else!
20:23 basiliscos doing "cp /home/nemo/perl5/lib/perl5/Inline/CPP.pm lib/Inline/" - makes the config right! :)
20:25 basiliscos even some tests to pass :)
20:26 basiliscos I think the Inline.pm is buggy, because it is binded somehow to the physical location of the 1st (?) found language
20:28 Will_the_Chill *nods head*
20:28 Will_the_Chill okay I follow you
20:28 Will_the_Chill but we'd have to PROVE that theory  :)
20:28 Will_the_Chill basiliscos: I hope you can hang around when mst shows up, he will be able to figure it out methinks
20:29 basiliscos Yep
20:29 basiliscos what is the mst's timezone ? The mine is GMT+2
20:31 Will_the_Chill well he happens to be here in Austin TX central time zone USA right now
20:31 Will_the_Chill and he usually lives in England
20:31 Will_the_Chill HOWEVER that means very little when it comes to hackers, since we may be nocturnal or random sleepers
20:31 Will_the_Chill ;)
20:32 basiliscos :)
20:32 Will_the_Chill I expect mst will show up at some point in the next hour or two, but that's my intuition
20:34 bulk88 I assume all perl programmers are vampires that don't sleep
20:34 bulk88 also never say "today" or tomorrow" since that might be 1 or 26 hours away
20:36 perigrin 26? "tomorrow" can often be 30+ hours away
20:36 Will_the_Chill hahaha yeah like "Christmas"
20:36 Will_the_Chill 30+ years away!
20:37 bulk88 person says tomorrow at 1 AM local time, that is 47 hours away for him, if your local time is 11 PM, if my math is right, your time for a response is 47+22 hours away
20:38 bulk88 nvm, 47 hours away
20:38 Will_the_Chill LOLmaths
20:40 bulk88 perl world runs on company time europe (before dawn USA time), company time USA, evenings europe (noon to afternoon USA time), and evenings USA
20:41 bulk88 USA late night is very quiet except for the rare aussie posting
20:45 Will_the_Chill USA late night is when I get all my coding done XD
21:36 perigrin USA Up All Night was full of cheesey movies.
21:36 * perigrin is old.
21:36 rurban mst is still in Austin?
21:37 perigrin I believe so.
21:37 Will_the_Chill oh yes
21:37 Will_the_Chill he is here 1.5 more weeks
21:37 Will_the_Chill rurban: YOU SHOULD COME!!!
21:37 Will_the_Chill we can have a Perl 11 party
21:37 Will_the_Chill :)
21:39 rurban ok, sounds good
21:40 Will_the_Chill yay!  when are you gonna come?
21:40 rurban have to ask my better half
21:40 Will_the_Chill awesome!
21:40 Will_the_Chill bring Mirjam if she wants to visit  :)
21:40 rurban over the weekend probably. sure
21:40 Will_the_Chill mst's girlfriend is here also
21:40 rurban oh, nice
21:41 rurban I better not ask which one :)
21:41 Will_the_Chill *nods* exactly
21:41 Will_the_Chill (her name is Mae)
21:41 Will_the_Chill sweet girl
21:41 rurban https://www.google.com/search?q=mst+girlfriend is not uptodate
21:42 Will_the_Chill hahaha
21:42 perigrin rurban: it wouldn't be either because it's too pedestrian a search term.
21:43 Will_the_Chill too pedestrian, eh?
21:43 rurban => http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/neither-nerd-nor-bro/
21:43 Will_the_Chill mst is quite the pedestrian, he walks everywhere
21:44 perigrin Will_the_Chill: and despite his being a singular intellelect ... he's rarely less than a plurality in most aspects of his life.
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21:46 Will_the_Chill *nods*
21:46 Will_the_Chill rurban: funny blog post!
22:07 basiliscos OK, I'm going to sleep :) Let's try tomorrow.
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23:10 travis-ci [travis-ci] perl11/p2#175 (cygwin - 3d7db06 : Reini Urban): The build passed.
23:10 travis-ci [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/perl11/p2/commit/3d7db06e99c2
23:10 travis-ci [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/perl11/p2/builds/16163729
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23:12 Will_the_Chill OH BOY travis bot is back
23:12 Will_the_Chill rurban: can we configure it so that we only get 1 travis message per day?
23:12 Will_the_Chill because otherwise it is spammy
23:12 Will_the_Chill especially once basiliscos sets up travis bot for RPerl in a few days, haha!  ;)
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23:39 rurban I rather prefer to see test results. watch the super spammy #perl6 channels which also have eval bots
23:41 Will_the_Chill okay

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