Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl11, 2016-10-27

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00:14 travis-ci perl11/cperl#1813 (master - d58a1a0 : Reini Urban): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/perl11/cperl/builds/170944286
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20:24 mako93r willthechill: Did you consider my pull request?
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21:04 travis-ci RPerl build failed. 93r says 'Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wbraswell/rperl'
21:04 travis-ci https://travis-ci.org/93r/rperl/builds/171204103 https://github.com/93r/rperl/compare/28f9cc7e79a4...8284f1fb95ab
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21:12 willthechill mako93r: howdy!
21:12 willthechill I was waiting to meet with you before moving forward.  :-)
21:12 willthechill I am glad to see you my friend!
21:13 willthechill I need to figure out what is causing the travis failures before we merge
21:19 mako93r Ok, I know one thing for sure. My changes made it to complete travis. Appveyor didn't make it but at least (a big step forward) it came to an end. Something in 't/05' and 't/11' went wrong. But I've never touched these files.
21:21 mako93r Also in 't/09' and 't/13' as I could see. I hope I didn't do more harm than good.
21:21 willthechill okay let me work on travis first then we will go to appveyor
21:21 willthechill I am looking at travis now
21:23 mako93r No problem. The real issue I am so annoying about my pull request is simply that I spent a lot of time with the perl debugger to figure out what's going wrong (really, you don't wish this even to your enemies).
21:24 willthechill haha yes I can believe you on that one!
21:24 mako93r You've ever spent time with perl's debugger?
21:24 willthechill I have spent many hours with bulk88 trying to debug RPerl in Windows, I only understand a small amount of what he does and I can tell you it is very hard
21:24 willthechill no I do not use the debugger but bulk88 does
21:25 willthechill and I have watched him do it
21:25 willthechill I use gdb very rarely when there is a C or C++ bug
21:25 willthechill mostly I just use the old debug-via-print-statements method
21:27 mako93r Me, too. To use any debugger (not only perl, c, c++, ...) is a piece of an art and a challenge for your patience. But sometimes unavoidable.
21:29 mako93r It's like doing a cardiac operation.
21:31 willthechill haha yep pretty much
21:31 willthechill I've spent several weeks at a time debugging the C and C++ code for RPerl
21:31 willthechill sometimes several days on just 1 line of code
21:32 willthechill often I'm amazed when it works!  :-D
21:37 mako93r Thanks God that it is so much fun to figure out errors in complex systems (like RPerl). Otherwise we have to ask ourselves: Why are we doing this shit? We live because we can deal with this stuff.
21:38 willthechill haha yes, those who can do it should do it  :-)
21:46 mako93r That's it, bro. Just tell me whether pull request is of any use or not. It's not perfect but at least it gives some insights/answers. (At least that's my hope)
21:47 willthechill yes I will let you know shortly I hope
21:47 willthechill or at least in a little while, haha!
21:52 mako93r Excellent, thx, captain. :-D
21:53 willthechill Yes sir you are quite welcome, it's good to be back!  :-D
22:02 mako93r And it's nice to know you back. Now we can get back to the real deal. Let's do the RPerl-Business. We will succeed.
22:02 willthechill YES AND AMEN BROTHER!
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22:23 travis-ci perl11/cperl#1814 (smoke/master - ad2d4b5 : Reini Urban): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/perl11/cperl/builds/171221466
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22:44 willthechill mako93r: I am still working on travis, might take a few hours  :P
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23:00 mako93r No big deal, captain. That's ok. I have to go to sleep. (You know I've got a job to do). But let's talk tomorrow. C U.
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23:34 willthechill okay sounds good!  :-)
23:47 mako93r :-) Good night.
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