Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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00:02 samcv u: { .uniprop('GCB') eq 'Prepend' }
00:02 ugexe so `run :merge` puts output into $proc.out, but Proc::Async.Supply creates a handle called `merge` which doesn't appear to be part of proc::async api
00:02 unicodable6 samcv, U+0600 ARABIC NUMBER SIGN [Cf] (؀ )
00:02 unicodable6 samcv, U+0601 ARABIC SIGN SANAH [Cf] (؁ )
00:02 unicodable6 samcv, 13 characters in total: https://gist.github.com/bdde5ea3ed429a4d61cb7e8bdfbf63ba
00:03 ugexe `my $proc = Proc::Async.new: "echo", "test"; $proc.Supply.tap: {.say}; $proc.start; $proc.Supply.close`
00:03 ugexe 'To avoid data races, you must tap merge before running the process'
00:04 samcv m: use nqp; nqp::ordbaseat("\c[ARABIC NUMBER SIGN]3").say
00:04 camelia rakudo-moar 5b6cd4: OUTPUT: «===SORRY!===␤Arg count 1 doesn't equal required operand count 3 for op 'ordbaseat'␤»
00:05 samcv m: use nqp; nqp::ordbaseat("\c[ARABIC NUMBER SIGN]3", 0).say
00:05 camelia rakudo-moar 5b6cd4: OUTPUT: «1536␤»
00:05 samcv oh nice. it works
00:05 samcv m: use nqp; nqp::ordbaseat("\c[ARABIC NUMBER SIGN]3", 1).say
00:05 camelia rakudo-moar 5b6cd4: OUTPUT: «-1␤»
00:05 samcv yay glad it works for prepend.
00:05 * samcv &
00:12 AlexDaniel ugexe: wait, tap what merge?
00:13 AlexDaniel ah, it says that in the error message
00:13 * AlexDaniel shrugs
00:13 ugexe right, but there is no .merge tap
00:17 ugexe for instance, one way to work around your recent issue would be to use `whenever $proc.stdout.merge($proc.stderr) { }` instead of `whenever $proc.Supply { }`
00:18 AlexDaniel well, right now I just use .stdout and .stderr separately
00:18 AlexDaniel and do the same kind of stuff with both of them
00:18 AlexDaniel all that being in react block, so no issues whatsoever
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00:51 travis-ci Rakudo build passed. Elizabeth Mattijsen 'Various Setty stringification improvements
00:51 travis-ci https://travis-ci.org/rakudo/rakudo/builds/255425262 https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/d9055e80fe49...5b6cd4062c43
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01:25 samcv would anybody want this for 6.d. being able to enter hex codes as 0x<0D00 235 8FE>
01:25 samcv which is the format that NFD.gist shows
01:25 samcv or NFC.gist etc
01:26 samcv m: 'á'.NFD.gist.say
01:26 camelia rakudo-moar 5b6cd4: OUTPUT: «NFD:0x<0061 0301>␤»
01:26 samcv currently that's not a way you can write out numbers in perl 6
01:26 samcv could be useful though
01:26 samcv u: U+0301
01:26 unicodable6 samcv, U+0301 COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT [Mn] ( ́)
01:29 samcv AlexDaniel, it might look better if for combining marks we added more than just nonbreaking space
01:29 samcv since that renders the accent on the parens for me
01:29 samcv m: "( ́)".subst( ')' , "\c[NBSP,NBSP])").say
01:29 camelia rakudo-moar 5b6cd4: OUTPUT: «( ́  )␤»
01:30 samcv this for me looks like it is in the center. if i have "\c[NBSP]Mark\c[NBSP,NBSP]"
01:30 samcv how do other people see that rendered?
01:31 samcv or actually could render it as a normal space i guess
01:31 samcv hm
01:31 samcv m: "( ́)".subst( ')' , "\c[NBSP,NBSP])").uninames.say
01:31 camelia rakudo-moar 5b6cd4: OUTPUT: «(LEFT PARENTHESIS NO-BREAK SPACE COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT NO-BREAK SPACE NO-BREAK SPACE RIGHT PARENTHESIS)␤»
01:31 samcv though nonbreaking space would make it look much better if things wrapped
01:37 samcv hexchat and konsole show it centered when you add two extra NBSP on the right side. but UXTerm shows it as the spaces would expect you to see it hm
01:47 samcv m: "\c[LEFT PARENTHESIS,NO-BREAK SPACE,NO-BREAK SPACE,COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT,NO-BREAK SPACE,RIGHT PARENTHESIS]".say
01:47 camelia rakudo-moar 5b6cd4: OUTPUT: «(  ́ )␤»
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01:49 Topic for #perl6-dev is now Perl 6 language and compiler development 2.0 | Logs at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/today | For toolchain/installation stuff see #perl6-toolchain | For MoarVM see #moarvm
01:59 BenGoldberg Sadly, http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/today shows the unicode in a way that's seriously messed up.
02:05 ugexe AlexDaniel: looks like .Supply causes a deadlock `futex(0x45551d4, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL` <- what it locks up at every time
02:06 samcv ugexe, i'm getting a failure for json for zef
02:06 samcv ===> Updated cpan mirror: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ugexe/Perl6-ecosystems/master/cpan.json
02:06 samcv Invalid JSON: iner",
02:07 samcv hmm but json::fast doesn't say the json is invalid
02:07 samcv ugrading zef though
02:08 ugexe for some reason it only tried to parse part of the json... probably only downloaded a partial file?
03:00 Geth ¦ nqp: fdead1d448 | (David Warring)++ | examples/rubyish/t/interpolation.t
03:00 Geth ¦ nqp: [examples/rubyish] fix interpolation test
03:00 Geth ¦ nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/fdead1d448
03:01 samcv hm
06:43 AlexDaniel samcv: so should I use a regular space then?
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07:10 [Tux] This is Rakudo version 2017.07-20-g5b6cd4062 built on MoarVM version 2017.07
07:10 [Tux] csv-ip5xs        2.601
07:10 [Tux] test            12.998
07:10 [Tux] test-t           4.263 - 4.294
07:10 [Tux] csv-parser      12.383
07:10 [Tux] Error encoding UTF-8 string: could not encode codepoint 1861622 (0x1C67F6), codepoint out of bounds. Cannot encode higher than 1114111 (0x10FFFF)
07:10 [Tux] in block <unit> at 88.t line 21
07:33 nine Zoffix: how can one reproduce the --ll-exception issue?
07:41 lizmat $ perl6 --ll-exception -e 'die'   # nine
08:58 Geth ¦ roast: 800317bc93 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files
08:58 Geth ¦ roast: Exact output of .gist should not matter in coercion test
08:58 Geth ¦ roast: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/800317bc93
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: 21b9a720c7 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core/Baggy.pm
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: Various Baggy/Mixy stringification improvements
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom:
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: - based on a ^100 .Bag
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: - .Str about 30% faster
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: - .gist about same speed *but* sorted: a long wish of TimToady
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: - .perl about 2x faster
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: - remove private method !LISTIFY, it is no longer needed
09:01 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/21b9a720c7
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10:04 Zoffix nine: cause any exception while --ll-exception is used. I think one possible fix is instead of doing what the breaking commit did, shove a closure into the payload that calls self.message and then execute that closure in places the message is needed https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/1a4d94930c581e915a2351049e8ee12246c4c26c
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: 02667bd890 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | tools/build/Makefile-Moar.in
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: rm -f any already existing .moarvm files during install
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom:
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: since .moarvm files are mmapped and bytecode lazily deserialized,
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: you can run into big trouble when rakudo gets updated while a
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: script is already running.
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom:
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: by unlinking the files before overwriting them, this should never happen.
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom:
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: uses a custom perl6 script because who knows if cp --remove-destination
10:05 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: is portable at all.
10:06 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/02667bd890
10:06 nine timotimo: this should also remove the need for a make clean after updating nqp I guess :)
10:07 timotimo i don't think so
10:15 nine Ah, because you run it after compilation
10:20 Zoffix timotimo: that broke my bot
10:20 Zoffix s: 3.3, 'gist', \()
10:20 SourceBaby Zoffix, Something's wrong: ␤ERR: Unhandled exception: While looking for '/home/zoffix/services/sourceable/building-perl6/perl6.moarvm': no such file or directory␤
10:21 Zoffix m: &say.line.say
10:21 camelia rakudo-moar 02667b: OUTPUT: «16␤»
10:21 Zoffix m: &say.file.say
10:21 camelia rakudo-moar 02667b: OUTPUT: «SETTING::src/core/io_operators.pm␤»
10:22 timotimo Zoffix: how did it do that?
10:22 Zoffix No idea why the bot's looking for that file
10:22 timotimo oh, that's how?
10:23 Zoffix dunno. This is the script that upgates its rakudo: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet/8be684da12ce5e951f40875c8f2e5d12
10:23 Zoffix SourceBaby: help
10:23 SourceBaby Zoffix, Use s: trigger with args to give to sourcery sub. e.g. s: Int, 'base'. See http://modules.perl6.org/dist/CoreHackers::Sourcery
10:23 Zoffix SourceBaby: source
10:23 SourceBaby Zoffix, See: https://github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-sourceable
10:23 Zoffix And this is the code that finds the linenumber/file: https://github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-sourceable/blob/master/lib/Sourceable/Plugin/Sourcery.pm6#L27-L45
10:24 Zoffix I'm unsure what makes it wanna look for perl6.moarvm or what is in that file
10:25 timotimo well, crap.
10:27 timotimo i'm getting some explosions here as well
10:32 timotimo okay, a perl6 repl open while rakudo installs will segfault no matter if my patch is applied or not
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11:43 timotimo Zoffix: should i revert the commit?
11:49 timotimo actually, feel free to revert it yourself if you think it's no good, Zoffix
11:49 timotimo i'll be AFK for a bit
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15:50 Zoffix timotimo: I've no idea what it does. I was just reporting that my bot stopped working :)
15:50 Zoffix s: &say
15:50 SourceBaby Zoffix, Sauce is at https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/02667bd/src/core/io_operators.pm#L16
15:51 Zoffix timotimo: looks like it works now vOv
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16:22 nine Zoffix: I failed to reproduce the issue with the "perl6 --ll-exception -e 'die'" lizmat suggested
16:23 Zoffix nine: what do you get when you run it? The first line reads "Unhandled exception: concatenate requires a concrete string, but got null" instead of the actual exception message
16:23 nine nine@sphinx:~> perl6 --ll-exception -e 'die'
16:23 nine Died
16:23 nine at SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:63  (/usr/share/perl6/runtime/CORE.setting.moarvm:throw)
16:23 nine Zoffix: oh wait...I've got rakudo rpm installed
16:23 Zoffix You're on the wrong perl then
16:24 nine sorry for the confusion :/
16:27 Zoffix nine: this commit made it so the Exception's $!ex message is no longer set: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/1a4d94930c581e915a2351049e8ee12246c4c26c then this commit attempted to fix the issue, but the $error never has .message method because it's not Perl 6 Exception, but BOOTException. https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/859b4441dd3f6fd8816759b3b1f12b2d45a0bfd2  and since BOOTException's payload
16:27 Zoffix can be any object apparently, I think this can be fixed by maing Exception.throw stuff a closure that calls self.message as payload and in the place where nqp code trying to call .message instead execute that closure to get the message. This way we still get to retain the original benefits of not having to generate Exception.message when we don't care for it
16:28 * Zoffix &
16:28 Zoffix s/maing/making/;
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16:43 ugexe TimToady: can you comment on Version smart-match returning true for both `v6 ~~ v6c` and `v6c ~~ v6` instead of returning false/true? I expand on my confusion here: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/1118#issuecomment-316760105
16:50 [Coke] Zoffix: (why tickets for todo'd tests) the goal is to have a single place to report issues.
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17:27 Zoffix [Coke]: but it ended up just a bunch of outdated information on todos in roast that at least once interfered with a user trying to find a specific ticket. Seems pointless effort considering you can always get an up-to-date information by running grep -ER '\#\?rakudo\s+(\d+\s+)?(todo|skip)' in a roast checkout
17:59 [Coke] Zoffix: if you have a better way to manage it, by all means.
18:00 [Coke] but this is one of the things that is tricky about the tickets: there's a ton of todo's and skips in roast. are those part of the 6.c release? do we want to strip them for the 6.d release?
18:49 Zoffix There's 1231 of todo/skips. Yeah, stripping them would be useful, as the "TODO PASSED" messages make it really hard to spot failures where there are failures. I guess stripping can be done just via the fudger. Make it insert `skip "placeholder test"` instead of any todos/skips
18:54 Geth ¦ nqp: c0abee7953 | (Stefan Seifert)++ | src/HLL/Compiler.nqp
18:54 Geth ¦ nqp: Fix --ll-exception trying to print a NULL
18:54 Geth ¦ nqp:
18:54 Geth ¦ nqp: Need to use isnull_s for strings and look for the .message method on the
18:54 Geth ¦ nqp: exception payload instead of the BOOTException.
18:54 Geth ¦ nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/c0abee7953
19:04 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: 559c925563 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION
19:04 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: Bump NQP to get the --ll-exception fix, nine++
19:04 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/559c925563
19:04 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: version bump brought these changes: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/compare/2017.07...2017.07-9-gc0abee7
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19:18 Geth ¦ nqp: 69a150d21b | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | tools/build/MOAR_REVISION
19:18 Geth ¦ nqp: Bump MOAR_REVISION.
19:18 Geth ¦ nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/69a150d21b
19:18 Geth ¦ nqp: version bump brought these changes: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/2017.07...2017.07-7-g499059d
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: b81597bd86 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | tools/build/NQP_REVISION
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: Bump to get latest MoarVM.
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom:
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: * Fix to native callbacks called on threads other than the one that
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom:   provided them in the first place (jnthn++)
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: * String concatenation improvements (samcv++)
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/b81597bd86
19:20 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: version bump brought these changes: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/compare/2017.07-9-gc0abee7...2017.07-10-g69a150d
19:21 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: 1d94164389 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | 2 files
19:21 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: Test native callbacks on different threads.
19:21 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/1d94164389
19:21 Geth ¦ rakudo/nom: version bump brought these changes: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/compare/2017.07-9-gc0abee7...2017.07-10-g69a150d
19:44 [Coke] I wonder if it would be nice to try to have a "meeting" every week or month or so as we are thinking of getting 6.d out the door.
19:44 [Coke] we used to try to do them way too often at the beginning, but we haven't really done that at all for 8+ years.
19:45 Zoffix Will we get free coffee and donuts? :)
19:47 [Coke] I will absolutely do that.
19:48 [Coke] ... as long as you have a dunkin donuts near you. :)
19:48 [Coke] I am, btw, super busy with work, so am able to spend a lot less time thinking about perl 6.
19:49 [Coke] (been the case for a few months now)
20:00 lizmat decommute&
20:09 Zoffix Same heh. Starting this week, I'll be able to spend a lot less time on Perl 6
20:10 Zoffix well "a lot less" == about half the time as before
20:56 robertle I know  the only real answer is "when it's ready", but is there any indication on roughly when 6.d might happen?
21:06 Zoffix robertle: October 19th.
21:07 perlpilot robertle: why do you want to know?
21:09 Zoffix robertle: note that not much would occur from user's perspective between last 6.c release and first 6.d release. There's a ton of features that are "technically" not part of the language that people are already using. 6.d release will just make those features "official"
21:11 robertle right, October sounds great. I am asking because I am using v6.d.PREVIEW more and more in semi-serious code, and having that a bit more official would be nice
21:13 Zoffix robertle: it's a rough date tho. Depending on availability of humans might be delayed. I think October 19th is the most optimistic mark and December 31 is the most pessimistic one, at least in my view.
21:13 robertle "Depending on availability of humans might be delayed", heh, I'll remember that for reuse at work :)
21:20 perlpilot robertle: what features of v6.d.PREVIEW are you taking advantage of?
21:21 Zoffix non-blocking await is the only one that's there, IIRC
21:22 robertle the waiting without exhausting the thread pool is the main thing for me. there is something about .child on directories as well, but looking at the description of the change I wonder whether that actually has anything to do with my previous problems, or whether I just worked out how to use it around the same time i started to use 6.d...
21:23 Zoffix robertle: the .child thing isn't yet implemented.
21:24 Zoffix It's not about .child on directories. in 6.d .child will be much slower and ensure that the path is indeed the child of the invocant.
21:24 robertle makes sense, the description says something about security, which wasn't really my problem
21:24 Zoffix And what current .child does has been replaced with .add  (which is already implemented without 6.d.PREVIEW)
21:25 robertle I was trying to write a method that checks if a file is contained (perhaps deeply) within a given directory, basically to avoid unwanted traversals as the filename is based on input over the net
21:25 robertle think .htaccess or so
21:26 robertle and I had great rouble getting that to work, even in the absence of links and similar complicatiosn
21:26 Zoffix buggable: eco secure
21:26 buggable Zoffix, IO::Path::ChildSecure 'Secure version of IO::Path.child': https://github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-IO-Path-ChildSecure
21:26 Zoffix You could use that ^
21:26 robertle i did look at that
21:26 Zoffix Which will be 6.d's IO::Path.child
21:27 Zoffix .in 60d go through ecosystem and convert .child -> .add
21:27 yoleaux Zoffix: I'll remind you on 18 Sep 2017 21:27Z
21:27 Zoffix .in 30d go through ecosystem and convert .child -> .add
21:27 yoleaux Zoffix: I'll remind you on 19 Aug 2017 21:27Z
21:28 robertle not sure anymore why we diodn't end using it. but looking at it now, what we do is similar in principle, basically resolve + absolute and string compare. I need to look at it again, not sure it can really be trusted
21:29 robertle I mean not sure *our* version can be trusted
21:29 Zoffix I wouldn't mind extra eyes on my version either :)
21:31 ugexe technically would trying to open each path with an exclusive lock work?
21:31 robertle why the nqp? is it for performance or for functionality?
21:32 robertle does every filesystem do locks properly?
21:32 Zoffix performance
21:42 Zoffix we have tests for .lock/.unlock so they work on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
21:44 geekosaur locking tends not to be a per-os issue so much as a per-filesystem issue. notably, remote filesystems are problematic in various ways
21:44 Zoffix ah
21:45 geekosaur or foreign filesystems, e.g. various fuse filesystems on linux to access ntfs, etc.
21:47 Zoffix damn. The naive fix for the subtest issue makes it report a passing TODO, because it thinks the subtest passed..
21:47 * Zoffix thinks harder
21:47 Zoffix Gonna leave it for now.
21:48 * jdv79 never liked subtest.
21:48 jdv79 the additional complexity seemed unworthy
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo: ca1f0cdae6 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/Test.pm6
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo: Stash todo'ed subtest improvement fix
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo:
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo: Currently fixes the original issue in RT#131767, but makes the
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo: subtest itself be reported as a unexpectedly-passing TODO
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo:
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo: Needs more thinking.
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:49 Geth ¦ rakudo/fix-RT131767-subtest-todo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/ca1f0cdae6
21:49 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131767
21:50 Zoffix I love subtest. Very easy to just bump plan by 1 and make a self-contained test for a feature, that uses many tests
21:50 Zoffix In Testo (where it's named `group`) I plan to auto-thread it too :)
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21:50 jnthn Chill out, synopsebot6 :-)
21:50 Zoffix heh
21:50 Zoffix Poor branch name, I guess :P
21:51 jnthn I thought it needed to be rt #12345
21:51 jnthn Or similar
21:55 Geth ¦ roast/fix-subtest-todo: cd838452e3 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | S24-testing/12-subtest-todo.t
21:55 Geth ¦ roast/fix-subtest-todo: Stash subtest todo fix tests
21:55 Geth ¦ roast/fix-subtest-todo:
21:55 Geth ¦ roast/fix-subtest-todo: For https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=131767
21:55 Geth ¦ roast/fix-subtest-todo: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/cd838452e3
22:28 Zoffix booo :'( Linkin Park's lead killed himself
22:29 * Zoffix was raised on that band :(
22:31 jnthn Yeah :(
22:33 jnthn Didn't listen to their songs for years, but did plenty in my teens.
22:42 Zoffix damn... went to look whether one of my other favourites was still alive. Died in March. Though at least at the ripe age of 101, so not entirely unexpected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacque_Fresco
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23:21 timotimo one of my favourite albums of last year was "Psybrid Theory" by "Gangnam Park"; a re-mix of the entirety of Hybrid Theory with all lyrics replaced by the lyrics from psy's songs "Gangnam Style" and "Gentleman"
23:21 timotimo also, lots of linkin park in my teens
23:22 jnthn Oh wow, I have to listen to that :P
23:23 timotimo it's quite amazing
23:23 timotimo i find it worked terrifyingly well
23:29 timotimo oh no
23:29 timotimo triple-q came out with an album of 453 gangnam-style mashups by 40 different people apparently
23:31 timotimo clearly very dedicated to the memes
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