Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6-release, 2016-04-10

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01:48 Topic for #perl6-release is now »r̈« - Discussions about Perl 6 and Rakudo release strategies - http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-release/today
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10:46 bazzaar \o
10:47 bazzaar re-branding of R*, why not make perl6 installation for the average end user, a two stage process.
10:51 bazzaar Stage 1 - choice of either Perl6 (implied stable release) or Perl6 development....   these both just compiler and core modules and Panda
10:55 bazzaar Stage 2 - choice of added functionality (interaction via Panda), choice of module groups (database, web-framework, scientific, interoperability, etc)
10:56 timotimo so a little bit like tasksel on a debian system, huh?
10:59 bazzaar Panda to manage what modules can be installed against whatever Perl6 (stable version) is installed, and maybe even recommend the user gets a newer Perl6
11:01 bazzaar timotimo : haven't ever had the pleasure of a Debian installation, but linux distributions do this 'base installation and added functionality' thing pretty well
11:08 timotimo during a debian (or ubuntu, i think) installation, you get a list like "http server", "sql server", "mail server", "desktop environment", ...
11:10 nine I dare say that this is pretty standard functionality of Linux installers. On openSUSE I for example have "Perl Development" or "File Server" or "Plasma 5 Desktop".
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11:12 bazzaar yes, that kind of thing :) As the perl6 ecosystem grows, and evolves ... 'package / module' management needs to be addressed from the end user perspective
11:14 bazzaar especially if *::Inline code import to be part of the mainstream ?
11:16 timotimo you mean we should ship a perl5 or python with useful modules together with perl6?
11:18 bazzaar haha ... was just throwing that last thought out there
11:18 timotimo it wouldn't be a terrible idea
11:19 timotimo it'd be hella funny if one of the best python distributions out there was a perl6 distribution :P
11:19 timotimo but it's probably hard to compete against the EPD and whatever active state has
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11:24 bazzaar Basically what I'm saying is simplify what perl6 means to the average user, and develop the module installer significantly giving the user choices along the way
14:26 stmuk that could be done with just maintaining a few meta modules like Task::Foo
14:27 stmuk but the sort of classification of modules done by Debian task meta packages doesn't fit well with perl 6 since the debian packages are unchanging for years whereas perl 6 changes on a weekly basis
15:47 moritz pmurias: if not, please tell me
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23:55 [Coke] btw, I'm going to do the release on sunday next weekend, not saturday
23:55 [Coke] (i'll use the hackathon to do the release.)

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