Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6-toolchain, 2016-11-24

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11:28 tbrowder hi #perl6-toolchain, anyone here?
11:32 nine hi
11:56 tbrowder hi, nine
11:57 tbrowder i'm working on the rakudo star installation trying to make zef the only installer and, so far, am making progress
11:58 nine You mean our download .tar.gz?
11:58 tbrowder my question is has anyone thought about breaking the whole rakudo installation process into more discrete pieces?
11:58 tbrowder exactly, the rakudo*star* specifically
12:00 tbrowder my immediate need is to have a stand-alone package to install rakudo star site-wide, as root, on multiple servers so i have a consistent, easily-updatable, perl6 environment, so that is  what i'm working on with the goal of a PR soon
12:10 nine I wonder why you focus on star for that?
12:12 tbrowder well, i could foccus on the main distro, but folks on #perl6 didn't seem to want a module installer with it.  i want zef to be the main installer because panda doesn't seem to be very consistent in how it gets installed and updated.
12:13 nine My approach is to create and maintain RPM packages for rakudo, zef, Inline::Perl5 and whatever else we're gonna end up using.
12:14 nine Already got moarvm, nqp and rakudo. Just need to do it for zef and Inline::Perl5
12:29 tbrowder nine, do you make deb packages also?
12:39 nine Nope. Don't have any deb based system.
12:39 nine I'm using the Open Build Service. That supports deb, too. So it should be relatively straight forward for one who needs it.
13:47 tbrowder nine: i'll check it out--thanks!
13:51 tbrowder nine: are your open build service setup files publicly available?
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15:24 tbrowder nine: even though it's RPM they would be helpful for a new Open Build Service user...
15:35 nine tbrowder: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/devel:languages:parrot
15:35 nine you'll find the .spec files in the packages
15:38 tbrowder nine: thanks!
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20:57 stmuk_ I don't see much point in replacing panda in star with zef
21:01 mst I was under the impression that most people thought zef was a better approach at this point, and that tadzik had no problem with us kicking his puppy
21:02 tadzik I'm all for Star containing software that's maintained :)
21:02 tadzik proactively, not reactively
21:02 tadzik it's supposed to be a collection of the best modules, and zef is better than panda
21:02 stmuk_ my main issue with zef is that the search only works if you know exactly what you are searching for
21:03 nine That ought to be fixable?
21:04 tadzik searching for something you already know seems pretty useless :)
21:06 stmuk_ the whole rakudo-rakudo star thing is too confusing for people anyway

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