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christopher |
How do I disambiguate between class and instance attributes within a method definition? |
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gaal |
christopher: you mean if they have the same name? not sure, but probably $foo means instance and $ThisClass::foo means class. $.foo and $!foo certainly mean instance vars. |
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gaal |
(when I say "certainly" about language matters I usually mean "I would be quite surprised unless") |
| 07:33 |
christopher |
yeah, if they have the same name. So I say: our $.x; to declare the class attribute, but $Foo.x inside one of the instance methods? (where $.x would shadow with |
| 07:33 |
christopher |
the instance attribute) |
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christopher |
where Foo is the class name |
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gaal |
I don't think you say our $.x |
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gaal |
say either our $x or my $x for public/private class data. |
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gaal |
hopefully I'll be corrected if I'm wrong about this. |
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christopher |
'our $.x' is in S12, if you search for the string 'class attr' |
| 07:37 |
gaal |
hmm |
| 07:38 |
gaal |
well, I don't know then. :-/ |
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christopher |
I haven't actually seen $Foo.bar written anywhere. |
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christopher |
Foo.bar appears in t/oo/attributes/class.t, but that's for |
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christopher |
the accessor by the same name, of course... |
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christopher |
I suppose $::?CLASS.bar would be safe? |
| 07:43 |
gaal |
that would work if accessors had been created, that is if you declared it with a twigil. |
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christopher |
I want to access the variable, not the accessor (which may not be an lvalue sub) |
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gaal |
If not, $ThisClass::bar, for our vars at least. |
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gaal |
Better ask Luke when he pops in. |
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christopher |
You mean the . has to be replaced with :: to get past the accessor? |
| 07:47 |
christopher |
(since it doesn't work that way for instance attributes, I'm surprised.) |
| 07:47 |
christopher |
(I thought it was the leading sigil that determined whether you were |
| 07:47 |
christopher |
using an accessor.) |
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christopher |
anyway, thanks! |
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christopher |
Ah, it's illegal: |
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christopher |
http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_thread/thread/d3d66e69aa3d5f6d/132aa650cd740395?q=class+instance&rnum=9#132aa650cd740395 |
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christopher |
(for there to be a conflict between instance and class attributes) |
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r0nny |
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r0nny |
yo |
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r0nny |
does pugs support meta pbjects now ? |
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r0nny |
ping? |
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broquaint |
?eval Object.new().meta.perl |
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evalbot_7968 |
Error: No compatible subroutine found: "&meta" |
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broquaint |
I guess not. |
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raptorXXX |
is there perldoc equivalent in haskell ? |
| 12:41 |
rafl |
haddock |
| 12:41 |
raptorXXX |
http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/haskell+workshop+2005 |
| 12:41 |
raptorXXX |
this can be interesting... |
| 12:41 |
raptorXXX |
thanx |
| 12:42 |
raptorXXX |
where is this haddock? |
| 12:42 |
raptorXXX |
i cant seem there is such command .. ghc |
| 12:42 |
raptorXXX |
aaa i see |
| 12:42 |
theorbtwo |
1: I'm not quite sure I'd call them equivelent. |
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raptorXXX |
it is in a package |
| 12:43 |
theorbtwo |
2: It comes sepperately. |
| 12:43 |
raptorXXX |
yep, thanx |
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gaal |
raptorXXX: see also http://haskell.org/hoogle/ |
| 12:45 |
raptorXXX |
:) thanx |
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| 12:48 |
raptorXXX |
one more questions...is there any equivalent of a Hash and HoH,AoA..etc.. structures in haskel |
| 12:48 |
raptorXXX |
FiniteMap?! |
| 12:49 |
SamB |
raptorXXX: we usually use Data.Map since GHC 6.4 |
| 12:49 |
raptorXXX |
aha..i see |
| 12:49 |
raptorXXX |
FiniteMap is depricated |
| 12:49 |
SamB |
raptorXXX: what is an AoA? |
| 12:50 |
raptorXXX |
Array of arrays, HoA, AoH ..etc |
| 12:50 |
SamB |
raptorXXX: just nest the types... |
| 12:51 |
raptorXXX |
ok.. i will try ,tnx |
| 12:52 |
SamB |
so, like, Map String (Map String Int) or something like that |
| 12:52 |
SamB |
there are a bunch of array types, though |
| 12:54 |
raptorXXX |
this haskell seem very cool, perl6 will stole alot of things isnt it :)) |
| 12:55 |
GeJ |
erm, I guess the word you're looking for is "borrow"... sounds better :) |
| 12:55 |
raptorXXX |
:) |
| 12:55 |
theorbtwo |
Or "steal", which has the correct tense. |
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* SamB |
prefers "steal" |
| 12:59 |
raptorXXX |
i've read abit about Types in Haskell... do we have something like it in perl6 |
| 13:00 |
raptorXXX |
roles ? may be ? |
| 13:02 |
theorbtwo |
I think haskell types map more or less onto perl6 types. |
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theorbtwo |
Not completely sure about parameterization, though. |
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xinming |
?eval [+] [1..100] |
| 13:10 |
evalbot_7968 |
[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100] |
| 13:10 |
xinming |
?eval [+] (1..100) |
| 13:10 |
evalbot_7968 |
5050 |
| 13:11 |
xinming |
hmm, should [1..100] be deferenced? |
| 13:11 |
theorbtwo |
I don't think so. |
| 13:11 |
rafl |
?eval [+] *[1..100] |
| 13:11 |
evalbot_7968 |
5050 |
| 13:11 |
theorbtwo |
It should possibly be nummified, but possibly not. |
| 13:12 |
theorbtwo |
(Since there was only one argument, the operator drops out, in one way of thinking.) |
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| 13:24 |
xinming |
?eval [~~] [1..10] |
| 13:24 |
evalbot_7968 |
bool::true |
| 13:24 |
xinming |
?eval [~~] (1..10) |
| 13:24 |
evalbot_7968 |
bool::false |
| 13:24 |
xinming |
hmm |
| 13:25 |
theorbtwo |
Blink... when did we get a ~~ operator? |
| 13:26 |
* theorbtwo |
smacks his head. |
| 13:27 |
theorbtwo |
Um, like 3 years ago... I'm using a strange font, for me... |
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xinming |
oops |
| 13:30 |
xinming |
?eval [~] (1..10] |
| 13:30 |
evalbot_7968 |
Error: unexpected "(" expecting block construct, ":", digit, "_", fraction, exponent, term postfix, operator, "does", "but", "is", "^..^", "cmp", "<=>", "^..", "..^", "..", ")", postfix conditional, postfix loop, postfix iteration, ";" or end of input |
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xinming |
?eval [~] (1..10) |
| 13:30 |
evalbot_7968 |
"12345678910" |
| 13:31 |
xinming |
found perl 6 has many aspects which are the same as haskell |
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Juerd |
kolibrie++ # dvorak :) |
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Juerd |
kolibrie: Spread the word :) |
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kolibrie |
Juerd: yes sir! |
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kolibrie |
Juerd: my wife started your tutorial |
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Juerd |
Good! We certainly need more female dvorak typists, because they tend to be much more succesful in convincing others. |
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Juerd |
:) |
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svnbot6 |
r7969 | yiyihu++ | Changed the value of lang attribute in <html> to "zh-cn" in file docs/zh-cn/01Overview.html |
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Moo :) |
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sdakota |
Hello guys :) |
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dduncan |
and hello to you |
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raptorXXX |
how to use perl5 modules in pugs..? |
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raptorXXX |
#!/usr/bin/pugs |
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raptorXXX |
use DBI--perl5; |
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raptorXXX |
is this correct.. |
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PerlJam |
raptorXXX: what happens when you try it? :) |
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raptorXXX |
pugs: *** Can't locate DBI.pm in @*INC (@*INC contains: /usr/lib/perl6/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl6 /usr/lib/perl6/site_perl/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl6/site_perl /usr/lib/perl6/auto/pugs/perl6/lib /usr/lib/perl6/site_perl/auto/pugs/perl6/lib .). |
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raptorXXX |
at <interactive> line 1, column 1 |
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kolibrie |
use perl5:DBI; |
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raptorXXX |
But this is ok :---> |
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raptorXXX |
use perl5:DBI; my $dbh = DBI.connect('dbi:SQLite:test.db'); |
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raptorXXX |
i see |
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raptorXXX |
so the second way is the correct one |
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kolibrie |
:) |
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integral |
did you find the "DBI--perl5" in a file in the pugs source? |
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integral |
hmm, seems not :) |
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wolverian |
integral, that was a suggestion on p6l - to put the perl version in the author field |
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gaal |
it used to work that way when the bridge was first put up. |
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integral |
hmm? I know. I was just wondering where raptorXXX found the old syntax. I thought it might have been a presentation that was stored in the pugs tree. If it was I was going to fix it :) |
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gaal |
ahh ok |
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integral |
it's in the 6.2.8 changelog :) |
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raptorXXX |
no i read it |
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wolverian |
integral, ah, okay. |
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xgl |
'darcs get' seems improbably slow -- is it a known issue? |
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integral |
raptorXXX: where? |
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raptorXXX |
in haskell-workshop-2005 |
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raptorXXX |
http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/haskell+workshop+2005 |
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Khisanth |
better to stick with the pugs docs :) |
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integral |
except where pugs is behind the design :) |
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Khisanth |
integral: doesn't matter then, I don't think you can run perl6 anywhere else ... |
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integral |
hmm, that seems to just be a copy of autrijus' proposed paper for hw, which iirc is in pugs svn? |
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raptorXXX |
where i can see more info for class-name-definitions 'cause i saw weird syntax .. one moment to find it |
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Khisanth |
raptorXXX: docs/quickref should have most of these things covered |
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raptorXXX |
aha.. |
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wolverian |
?eval 2**2 |
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evalbot_7969 |
4/1 |
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wolverian |
humm, what's up with the /1? |
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geoffb |
wolverian -- that's a Rat, but I'm not sure why int ** int -> rat, frankly. |
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geoffb |
maybe a coersion back and forth from a floating point rep. |
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wolverian |
is it int ** int? |
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wolverian |
?eval 2 ** 0.25 |
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evalbot_7969 |
1.189207115002721 |
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wolverian |
right, no /1 there |
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wolverian |
(yeah, I don't know enough haskell. :/) |
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SamB |
well, if you do 0.25, doesn't that make it a float? |
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SamB |
well, in Haskell it just makes it some instance of Fractional... |
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leo |
rafl: (inline-threading) the paper describes also a lot of plain code rewriting, which is (as proof of concept) already inside src/pic.c |
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leo |
(but that belongs better to #parrot ...&) |
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