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00:56 rafl joepurl_: As soon as possible, of course.
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09:25 ilogger starts logging #perl6 at Sun Nov 27 09:25:35 2005
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09:29 nothingmuch autrijus: FYI - i released Term::VT102::Boundless
09:30 nothingmuch IMHO HTML::FromANSI should use it
09:30 nothingmuch that way it doesn't have to guess rows/cols
09:41 azuroth !nopaste
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09:51 Khisanth perlbot: paste
09:51 perlbot Paste your code and #perl will be able to view it: http://sial.org/pbot/perl http://dragon.cbi.tamucc.edu:8080 http://erxz.com/pb
09:51 Khisanth hmm
09:52 azuroth aha
09:52 Khisanth add a 6 to the end of that first address
09:52 azuroth perlbot: help
09:52 perlbot Syntax: (fact) :: tell (who) about (what) :: (who) > (what) :: learn (what) as (info) :: relearn (fact) as (info) :: phone (phone number) :: shorten (url) :: shorten it :: search (module) :: docs (module) :: perldoc -f (function) :: jargon (term) :: math :: fortune ::  flip :: host (type) (record) ::rot13 :: roll (die) :: tempconv (temp) :: scramble (text) :: 8ball :: slap :: diss :: what time is it :: top/bottom (number) karma :: geoip (ip)
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09:58 svnbot6 r8010 | Darren_Duncan++ |  r959@Darren-Duncans-Computer:  darrenduncan | 2005-11-25 17:38:38 -0800
09:58 svnbot6 r8010 | Darren_Duncan++ |  /ext/Rosetta-Incubator : reverted version nums on 4 modules to 0.1.0 from 0.10.0, since they never had any X.YY versions
09:58 svnbot6 r8011 | autrijus++ | * transcribe some random thoughts re PIL2 before I
09:58 svnbot6 r8011 | autrijus++ |   accidentally erase it again ;)
09:58 svnbot6 r8012 | fglock++ | * /docs/notes/laziness.txt - "List" vs "Tuple";
09:58 svnbot6 r8012 | fglock++ |   reorganization of sections.
10:01 r0nny morning
10:01 azuroth hey hey
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10:46 r0nny yo
10:46 r0nny i got problem
10:46 azuroth with what?
10:46 r0nny want to use YAML::Dump to dump a perl6 data structure
10:47 r0nny but it just tells there isnt such a sub
10:48 r0nny is there a way, to use perl5 data structures for this hash ?
10:48 azuroth hmm. I've no idea
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17:03 herentia does anyone see the syntax error in this line if ( grep (/ball/, $mech->field) )
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17:36 sky_ autrijus: http://www.couchsurfing.com/
17:54 r0nny re
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19:10 gaal herentia: in Perl 6? $mech.field . But were you looking for #perl ?
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19:25 revdiablo Perl 6's grep doesn't take EXPR form either, does it?
19:26 integral nothing should now
19:26 revdiablo $mech.field.grep:{/ball/}; # IIRC
19:26 integral since blocks are very, very, very trivial...
19:26 revdiablo Does field return a list either?
19:26 revdiablo So much to talk about in such a simple snippet of code.
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19:27 wolverian revdiablo, .field certainly returns a list if it's declared as such (has @.field;)
19:27 revdiablo Is it declared as such, was my question
19:28 wolverian it's not a built-in or anything. it's just an example (AFAIK)
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19:28 revdiablo I assumed we were talking about a WWW::Mechanize object, since it was named $mech and 'field' makes sense in that context
19:28 wolverian oh, okay. I don't know about any possible WWW::Mechanize perl6 implementation.
19:29 wolverian (or the perl5 one either, really. :)
19:29 revdiablo Yeah I think his question was really intended for #perl, but hey, why not run with it. =)
19:30 wolverian ah, I didn't read that up :)
19:31 wolverian s,up,far up
19:31 wolverian s/$/,/
19:32 malverian autrijus: Query me if you don't mind when you get a chance. I've got a question regarding cross-compiling to win32 host with pp
19:38 geoffb (Thinking Forth)++ # Advocating "fun-down" rather than "top-down" or "bottom-up"
19:38 nothingmuch autrijus: http://par.perl.org/ - is that broken?
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20:01 herentia can someone show me what is wrong with the above code http://sial.org/pbot/14586
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21:09 wolverian it's been pretty quiet lately
21:09 wolverian lack of autrijus? :)
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21:10 geoffb That'd be my guess.
21:10 geoffb He's an effective neutron moderator.
21:10 wolverian we should have more of those
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21:12 geoffb We do; unfortunately, most of them can't be around all the time, or even very much, like autrijus ... er ... used to.
21:12 geoffb (economic reality)--
21:12 wolverian reality--
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21:14 Odin-LAP capitalism-- # Onwards to revolution!
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21:27 geoffb loop { $current = @political_structures.pick }
21:29 integral $current = any(@political_structures); # just pick the one that works for what you need at the time
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21:36 geoffb $current = @political_structures.grep({ $_.workable }).any;  # What's the correct method-taking-block syntax these days, anyway?
21:37 wolverian .foo: { ... } # larry wants this to work, not sure if it's canonical yet
21:37 geoffb So when followed up by another chained method call, what then?
21:37 wolverian no idea. :)
21:38 wolverian I assume as if it was .foo({ ... }).bar
21:38 geoffb Yeah, so did I, then realized I hadn't read the S recently . . . still, it's what people will expect from a simple mental model, so it should DWIM
21:39 wolverian search for 'grep:' in http://svn.perl.org/perl6/d​oc/trunk/design/syn/S12.pod
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21:42 geoffb mmm, proper DWIMmery, that.
21:42 wolverian yes
21:43 wolverian I'm not sure why we still need : at all then..
21:43 wolverian probably to make grep { } @list work instead of grep { }, @list
21:43 geoffb Because Larry hates fingernail clippings
21:43 geoffb nodnod
21:43 wolverian I actually would be fine with giving up that feature
21:43 wolverian not sure if many others would
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21:44 nothingmuch http://use.perl.org/~nothingmuch/journal/27757
21:44 geoffb I think the : might be suboptimal, but I tend to make use of the fact that Perl is bluntly ( ) - optional, and use parens to mean something.
21:45 wolverian perl is not () optional with method calls :/
21:45 wolverian well, besides : .. right.
21:46 geoffb and therein lies the rub
21:46 geoffb go nothingmuch . . . .
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21:47 wolverian does $obj.foo<bar> call .foo("bar") or .foo(){"bar"}
21:47 nothingmuch sri_: http://use.perl.org/~nothingmuch/journal/27757
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21:48 geoffb wolverian, I would just try it, but that would tell little about whether the Pugs behavior was correct or not.  :-)
21:52 wolverian geoffb, right :)
21:52 nothingmuch err, why did i post here
21:53 nothingmuch (to sri_, that is)
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22:35 nothingmuch seen autrijus
22:35 nothingmuch seen autrijus?
22:35 nothingmuch jabbot?
22:35 nothingmuch NOOO!!! JABBOT!
22:35 wolverian heh
22:55 sri_ nothingmuch++
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