Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2006-02-09

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07:50 dduncan stevan, I was not late, and it seems to have gone well ... will only know if I get the job later
07:50 dduncan citing 12 hours ago
07:50 ingy Jemplate
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08:23 nothingmuch chromatic: in case you backlog
08:24 nothingmuch separating to layers is not separating to parts, IMHO
08:24 nothingmuch the standard library and the prelude are not separate parts
08:24 nothingmuch they are the same part
08:24 nothingmuch except that it's slightly more organized
08:24 nothingmuch the linker/compiler/parser/emitter yadda stuff is, again, componentization
08:25 nothingmuch the idea here is to simpolify the design, try to make it more reusable, and refactor it a bit
08:25 nothingmuch pugs is already taking this route
08:25 nothingmuch i suspect that given organic growth Perl 6 in Perl 6 will also do that
08:25 nothingmuch all I'm interested is in helping this process happen by deciding to do this intentionally, together, as a community
08:25 nothingmuch instead of by accident, each person on her or his own
08:26 nothingmuch since the latter process tends to actually raise the barrier for community participation
08:26 nothingmuch raise programmer burn out
08:26 nothingmuch raise the complexity of the whole project from a maintenance and implementation point of view
08:26 nothingmuch and so on and so forth
08:26 nothingmuch my conjecture is this: organization *MUST* happen
08:26 nothingmuch and: we already know what the big parts are going to be
08:27 nothingmuch (must happen eventually)
08:27 nothingmuch given these two claims, I think it's safe to say that there is no harm in trying to be a little more prepared for change
08:27 nothingmuch making the trial and error process more focused and clean
08:27 nothingmuch __END__
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13:47 nothingmuch meetings--
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14:06 nothingmuch see you all on feb 19th
14:06 nothingmuch gaal, audreyt: FYI you're getting comaint on all my modules in case I die
14:06 nothingmuch stevan too
14:06 wolverian er, huh?
14:06 nothingmuch snowboarding =)
14:06 stevan ah
14:06 stevan enjoy
14:06 wolverian ah :)
14:06 wolverian have fun
14:07 nothingmuch =D
14:07 nothingmuch maybe i'll have netaccess in the airport etc
14:07 nothingmuch but probably not there
14:10 Juerd faxmodem++
14:11 Juerd nothingmuch: Good luck
14:11 Juerd nothingmuch: Break a leg, and no more than that :)
14:11 Juerd With a broken leg you have a good excuse to:
14:11 Juerd a) not go to $work
14:11 Juerd b) hack, hack, hack
14:11 Juerd :)
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16:35 gaal so, if we transition to FPS, should this still hold?
16:35 gaal type RuleParser a = GenParser Char RuleState a
16:36 gaal since that implies the input is [Char]
16:37 gaal Or does a transition to FPS (therefore?) require deeper hackage in Parsec?
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16:46 bsb frames per second?
16:47 bsb you doing macros gaal?
16:48 spinclad purl: FPS?
16:48 gaal bsb: FastPackedString - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/fps/Data.FastPackedString.html
16:48 spinclad (FPS is FastPackedString)
16:49 gaal Or will we be transitioning to Text.Parser stuff? (Oh great. Monads weren't enough :-)
16:51 integral gaal: deeper parsec hacking I believe
16:52 integral gaal: My first idea is to investigate if parsec's _interface_ can be put atop Text.Parser.Rule,  but maybe not since you have to do a monad -> arrow conversion type thing :-/
16:52 integral gaal: you'd probably have to rewrite the GenParser type since your parser will no longer be general enough to parse [a] in general :)
16:53 gaal is there any practical use of an [a] parser at all?
16:54 integral Yes in general,  in pugs, no,  at least not in Pugs.Parser.
16:56 bsb So a normal String is just a list and FPS is a chunk of memory?
16:56 gaal bsb: yes. and "just a list" is lazy.
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19:48 nothingmuch so, leaving for my aunt's house
19:48 nothingmuch see you at the airport
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19:49 kolibrie nothingmuch: travel safe
19:49 nothingmuch thanks =)
19:49 nothingmuch damnit
19:49 nothingmuch wanted to take another movie on the laptop
19:49 nothingmuch 97.1% complete
19:49 nothingmuch i started it yesterday
19:50 nothingmuch it's been at 97 since i checked it this morning
19:50 nothingmuch =(
19:50 kolibrie oh well
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