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08:04 agentzh fglock: have you ever encountered the error "Socket already exists" when you're using feather's CGI:IRC?
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09:12 agentzh greetings from feather. :=)
09:13 gaal hey agentzh
09:13 agentzh Juerd: thanks. i've changed the password and had redirected the mail system
09:13 agentzh gaal: :)
09:14 gaal got my /msg?
09:14 agentzh gaal: nope. i'm still a irssi newbie. :(
09:14 agentzh gaal: where is it please?
09:14 gaal are you in irc or irssi?
09:15 agentzh gaal: irssi
09:15 gaal if in irssi, you'll see a status line looking like this:  [12:15] [gaal(+ei)] [2:#perl6(+cn)] [Act: 3,5]
09:15 agentzh yes!
09:16 gaal this means I'm currently in window #2, channel #perl6
09:16 agentzh i see it.
09:16 gaal and that I have activity in windows 3 and 5
09:16 agentzh how to activate the window?
09:16 gaal if I do /win 3, I'll go to window 3.. there I can go back to /win 2 for this channel
09:16 agentzh oh, that's what i need. thanks!
09:16 gaal if a number is red, I have a message addressed to me
09:17 agentzh yes, i see a red "4"
09:17 agentzh activating...
09:17 gaal (either a privmsg or a line with my name in it
09:17 gaal )
09:26 xerox You can also do M-# or Esc #.
09:28 gaal Or M-<LArrow> / M-<RArrow> :-)
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09:40 agentzh thanks for the help. dinner &
10:09 Juerd gaal: "irc" on feather starts irssi :)
10:09 Juerd gaal: This is to prevent unnecessary suffering :)
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10:14 gaal ;)
10:18 nothingmuch feh
10:18 * nothingmuch woke up so nicely yesterday
10:18 nothingmuch 10 hrs of sleep--
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13:44 fglock ?eval 'x' ~~ /x/
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13:44 evalbot_11807 *** Cannot parse PGE: x *** Error: Cannot find the parrot executable in PATH Match.new(   ok => Bool::False,    from => 0,    to => 0,    str => "",    sub_pos => (),    sub_named => {} )
13:46 dakkar !
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13:58 Yaakov I see perl people...
13:58 svnbot6 r11808 | fglock++ | pX/Pugs-Compiler-Rule - changing to 'static' capture numbering
13:58 svnbot6 r11807 | Sage++ | Adding the tool I used to get node names. It's very simple and should be pretty self explanatory (useage instructions are in the file), but in the interest of documenting my SoC work I'm including it.
13:58 svnbot6 r11807 | Sage++ | It can find all node names in files in the folder it's run in, or search for instances of a given nodetype in all files in the current folder. Useful for me as a dev tool.
14:00 * fglock makes ghost noises to Yaakov
14:00 Yaakov Eek!
14:03 nothingmuch hello Yaakov
14:03 Yaakov Hello, Yuval.
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14:04 nothingmuch moooooooosage
14:04 nothingmuch sigh
14:04 nothingmuch Term::StatusBar is very pretty
14:05 nothingmuch but completely unusable unless you clear the screen
14:05 nothingmuch kinda lame
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14:24 Limbic_Region audreyt - just got back to work after a few weeks of Mono - the weird Win32 gcc-lib problem is gone - sent and email to rafl saying not to worry about it
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14:50 xerox audreyt: ping
14:58 svnbot6 r11809 | fglock++ | pX/Pugs-Compiler-Rule - more tests
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15:10 svnbot6 r11810 | scw++ | Pugs::Emitter::Rule::Parsec
15:10 svnbot6 r11810 | scw++ |  * numbered captures
15:10 svnbot6 r11810 | scw++ |  * subrule with parameters
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15:14 scw fglock: I put the ugly "if ref ne 'ARRAY'"according to 'Repeated captures of the same subrule' in S05
15:15 scw fglock: I'll add a test :)
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16:07 obra audreyt: one of IBM's creators of the IBM PC told us about how it's important to -Ofun
16:09 fglock scw: ok - I'm still working in the pX version , I'll merge the tests later
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16:15 TimToady yes, I noticed the -Ofun too
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16:35 svnbot6 r11812 | fglock++ | pX/Pugs-Compiler-Rule - static numbered captures fixed for :ratchet; all
16:35 svnbot6 r11812 | fglock++ | :ratchet tests pass
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18:39 svnbot6 r11813 | fglock++ | pX/Pugs-Compiler-Rule - more tests for :P5
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19:29 audreyt dduncan++ # got my timeline porcelain plate in the auction for $222.22
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19:30 wolverian nice!
19:30 xerox audreyt: hey!
19:30 xerox audreyt: do you have any insights about the current cabal-server-install ?
19:31 Limbic_Region audreyt - not sure if you saw my FYI earlier but the weird Win32 build prob with gcc-lib is gone
19:31 audreyt k
19:31 Limbic_Region I emailed rafl saying not to worry about it
19:31 audreyt I fixed it :)
19:31 * Limbic_Region hugs audreyt
19:31 audreyt :D
19:32 * Limbic_Region got back from being off the grid for several weeks due to mono to pugs building just fine
19:32 Limbic_Region woot
19:32 wolverian hm, "mono to pugs"...
19:33 wolverian do you mean you had mono, or you were coding mono? :)
19:33 Limbic_Region no, I had mono
19:33 Limbic_Region or rather have mono
19:33 wolverian doesn't go away, really, does it
19:33 Limbic_Region um, yes - you can be clear of it
19:34 wolverian oh. remembered wrong then
19:34 Limbic_Region though that isn't always the case
19:34 wolverian I had it in junior high too
19:34 wolverian successively skipped all the athletic classes for that year, even after I was feeling fine ;)
19:36 Limbic_Region well, after a 3 day stint in the hospital, more vials of blood and tests than I care to speak about - I am not very fond of it
19:36 wolverian ouch.
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19:38 Limbic_Region but WRT "always having it" - it is a virus and it can be gotten rid of - alternatively, it can remain dormant in B cells indefinately - so a re-ocurrence can either be a new infection or old friends coming to haunt you later
19:38 Limbic_Region anyway - getting on-topic
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19:38 Limbic_Region the journals I have read playing catchup seem pretty exciting
19:40 audreyt I'm glad :)
19:40 audreyt also they were featured in TimToady's state of the onion
19:40 audreyt the diagrams that is
19:41 audreyt (going to the closing keynote; bbiab)
19:42 wolverian Limbic_Region, right, that's what I thought. kind of like toxoplasmosis. just forgot 'dormant'. thanks
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20:18 salty-horse !eval "0x" ~ reverse(0x173)
20:19 salty-horse !eval say "0x" ~ reverse(0x173)
20:19 TimToady s/!/?/?
20:19 salty-horse ?eval "0x" ~ reverse(0x173)
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20:19 evalbot_11813 "0x173"
20:19 salty-horse yay
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20:22 b_jonas uh, I thought the syntax was this:
20:22 b_jonas eval: "0x" ~ reverse(0x173)
20:22 buubot b_jonas: Error: syntax error at (eval 206) line 15, near "#line 1 eval       "0x" ~"
20:22 b_jonas huh?
20:22 b_jonas then maybe
20:22 b_jonas p6eval: "0x" ~ reverse(0x173)
20:22 svnbot6 r11814 | fglock++ | pX/Pugs-Compiler-Rule - more tests pass
20:22 b_jonas eval6: "0x" ~ reverse(0x173)
20:23 b_jonas hmm
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20:23 salty-horse evalbot_11813, help
20:23 wolverian evalbot listens to ?eval. dunno if buubot has pugs at all.
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20:23 wolverian eval: $]
20:23 buubot wolverian:  5.008008
20:23 salty-horse evil bots listen to no-one
20:23 b_jonas wolverian: wait, I have buubot's source, let me look it up
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20:25 b_jonas uh huh, it has python
20:25 b_jonas but not pugs
20:28 wolverian python?! kick it :-)
20:34 * gaal meows
20:36 b_jonas pyeval: raise RuntimeError, "feel kicked, python"
20:36 buubot b_jonas: I got: 2 from my C I got: 2 from my C I got: 2 from my C I got: 2 from my C  Traceback (most recent call last):   File "<string>", line 1, in ? RuntimeError: feel kicked, python
20:36 b_jonas or should I kick it more?
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20:41 * [particle] mooooooooses
20:43 ingy nothingmuch: are you still alive?
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21:01 nothingmuch ingy: yes
21:01 nothingmuch why would i be dead?
21:01 svnbot6 r11815 | fglock++ | pX/Pugs-Compiler-Rule - t/06-subrule.t passes 13/30
21:03 clkao fglock!
21:03 fglock clkao: hi!
21:03 clkao fglock: did you see my message the other day?
21:04 clkao i changed signature_term_type and it became infinite loop on matching junctive types :/
21:04 kolibrie nothingmuch: maybe ingy thinks you're in a war zone?
21:04 fglock clkao: do you have a short sentence I could try?
21:04 nothingmuch oh...
21:04 nothingmuch there's like a 1/100,000 chance of dying
21:04 nothingmuch (so far)
21:05 clkao fglock: just try to compile "sub isa_ok (Any|Junction|Pair $ref is rw) {}"
21:05 fglock ok
21:06 clkao i tried to debug a bit, when it finishs up matching any|junction|pair it went back again to any|junction|par
21:06 clkao pai
21:31 fglock clkao: would you try it again?
21:31 svnbot6 r11816 | fglock++ | v6.pm - fixed an infinite loop in <signature_term_type>
21:32 clkao (!)
21:32 clkao what does the : mean?
21:32 fglock it means "don't backtrack here"
21:32 clkao ah
21:37 fglock clkao: it may be already possible to merge parts of PCR and use 'token' for v6.pm - this would make it faster and use less memory too
21:49 svnbot6 r11817 | Sage++ | Adding the one nodetype I managed to miss in yesterday's big update to the parser for the translator.
21:49 svnbot6 r11818 | Sage++ | Adding one nodetype to the parser. Don't know how I missed it yesterday.
21:52 svnbot6 r11819 | Sage++ | Foreach translation expanded to handle some boundry cases and better handle existing ones. The code for this function has also been cleaned up.
21:52 svnbot6 r11819 | Sage++ | scalar @foo -> +@foo now implemented.
21:52 svnbot6 r11819 | Sage++ | Lots of new comments, cleanups, and minor revisions, mostly for readabiility.
21:52 svnbot6 r11819 | Sage++ | Some changes in the interest of getting rid of cases where tail is called on a list of length 1 or less. This work is not complete, but sanity checks have been added to a couple of functions.
21:52 svnbot6 r11819 | Sage++ | -This line, and those below, will be ignored--
21:52 svnbot6 r11819 | Sage++ | M    ASTTranslate-sage.hs
21:53 fglock I can't access dev.perl.org
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21:55 SageLT Oops, looks like I messed up the "--This line, and those below..." line. My vim-foo is weak.
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22:48 ingy nothingmuch: are you in a war zone?
22:48 ingy my precious?
22:49 nothingmuch ingy: nope
22:49 nothingmuch i'm in the south
22:49 nothingmuch kudra says hi, btw
22:49 nothingmuch <3 ingy
22:49 nothingmuch how's stuff going with gcohen?
22:49 ingy ?
22:50 nothingmuch that guy i hooked you up with
22:50 ingy o_x
22:53 nothingmuch is that orz but lying on your back?
22:55 ingy that's me with a black eye
22:55 ingy gcohen is abusive
22:56 ingy thanks a lot
23:03 Dr_Pi I was going to experiment with EclipseFP for Haskell, but it needs Java 5, which needs Mac OS 10.4 and I have 10.3.
23:05 nothingmuch ingy: <3
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23:41 svnbot6 r11820 | clkao++ | $*ERR -> \*STDERR
23:44 b_jonas I can't load http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/synopsis.html
23:44 b_jonas can someone tell me where I can find up-to-date synopses?
23:51 nothingmuch perl.org seems down
23:51 nothingmuch (again)
23:51 nothingmuch you can try to install Perl6::Bible from a cpan mirror though
23:55 b_jonas lol, I just looked at #perl after you asked this
23:55 b_jonas and it said "MACscr: how can i install Term::ReadPassword when cpan is down?"
23:57 b_jonas it's not a problem, I can still install it, but it was funny

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