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TreyHarris |
eviltwin_b: basically, except when in releng mode, pugs doesn't care about failures too much, they're for releng cleanup or when somebody's fun intersects with fixing one of them :) |
| 00:09 |
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cj |
lalala |
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cj |
that was fun |
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cj |
TimToady: sorry to hear the family's under the weather |
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eviltwin_b |
hm, lots of "Cannot cast from VHandle (...) to Object", at unexpected places |
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audreyt |
eviltwin_b: ccan you reduce that to a minimal test case? |
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audreyt |
it seems that IO:Dir::close is triggered on an $hdl object |
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eviltwin_b |
mress:9216 Z$ ./pugs -we 'my $fh = open("tmpx", :w); say $fh: "hi"; close $fh;' |
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eviltwin_b |
*** Cannot cast from VHandle {handle: tmpx} to Object |
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eviltwin_b |
at -e line 1, column 43-52 |
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eviltwin_b |
I wonder if something went wrong with my build |
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eviltwin_b |
(the only difference from current pugs is one documentation file, according to svn) |
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eviltwin_b |
doing a rebuild on the off chance that it was some intermittent failure in the build |
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wolverian |
those pesky electrons, never do what they're told. |
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* [particle] |
accelerates |
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wolverian |
heh. |
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svnbot6 |
r14537 | audreyt++ | * Really extremely wrong bandaid to get |
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svnbot6 |
r14537 | audreyt++ | ./pugs -we 'my $fh = open("tmpx", :w); say $fh: "hi"; close $fh;' |
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svnbot6 |
r14537 | audreyt++ | to pass again; will investigate the IO::Dir-to-IO problem later... |
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eviltwin_b |
huh |
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eviltwin_b |
thanks audreyt++ |
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* eviltwin_b |
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eviltwin_b |
rerunning tests |
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meppl |
guten morgen |
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esstone |
Thanks to audreyt for presenting perl6/pugs to Amazon.com this afternoon. I learned a lot about perl6/pugs/JFDI. |
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clkao |
whoot |
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mr_ank |
I believe this is the link to a post about that perl6/pugs talk: http://pugs.blogs.com/pugs/200[…]#comment-24493241 |
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lambdabot |
http://tinyurl.com/unxnk |
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mr_ank |
?eval [+] 1..10 |
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evalbot_r14537 |
55 |
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mr_ank |
?eval [+] ([+] 1..10; [+] 1..2]) |
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evalbot_r14537 |
Error: â¤Unexpected ";"â¤expecting "_", fraction, exponent, term postfix, operator, ":", "," or ")" |
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johannes |
hi |
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ingy |
hola |
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ingy |
where is the latest ghc dmg? |
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johannes |
so `pugs -e 'say "Hallo Welt";'` and `pugs -Bperl5 -e 'say "Hallo Welt";'` is the same, because the perl5 backend is default |
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johannes |
i'm wondering that it isn't, with -Bperl5 i get some module-not-found errors |
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audreyt |
@tell johannes the perl5 implementatino of p6regex is default |
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lambdabot |
Consider it noted. |
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audreyt |
@tell but otherwise, no, the perl5 codegen is not default. that means when you say "1 ~~ /2/"you are calling to p5 |
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lambdabot |
Consider it noted. |
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xinming |
in S03, Likewise the ability to say $x.'foo' does not imply that $x'foo' will work. |
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* xinming |
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svnbot6 |
r14538 | fglock++ | * v6 - hash/block is decided at parse-time |
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xinming |
?eval my @a = (1, 2, 3); (@a>>--).say; |
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evalbot_r14538 |
OUTPUT[<Error><Error><Error>â¤] Bool::True |
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xinming |
:-P |
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svnbot6 |
r14539 | fglock++ | v6/emitter |
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svnbot6 |
r14539 | fglock++ | - fixed pair interpolation in hash composition |
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r14539 | fglock++ | Pugs::Compiler::Rule/parser |
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svnbot6 |
r14539 | fglock++ | - fixed precedence of modifiers |
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r14539 | fglock++ | - parse hex and octal chars |
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audreyt |
at seatac airport, boarding for houston->brazil now |
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audreyt |
in 18 hours I'll finally be in somewhat stable residence and hack with fglock for a week or so |
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audreyt |
till then... have fun :) *wave* & |
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ingy |
audreyt: ping |
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ingy |
audreyt: what's the fastest install for osx on i86? |
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eviltwin_b |
[15:55 (EDT)] <audreyt> at seatac airport, boarding for houston->brazil now |
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rindolf |
Hi all. |
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ingy |
hi rindolf |
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rindolf |
Hi ingy |
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ingy |
rindolf: do you have a new mac? |
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rindolf |
ingy: no, I don't. |
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rindolf |
ingy: I only have Intel machines here. |
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rindolf |
Nothing that runs OS X. |
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ingy |
http://christian.web42.com/en/[…]hives/000023.html |
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lambdabot |
Title: public thoughts: How to install Pugs on Mac OS X 10.4 in 22 easy steps, http://tinyurl.com/y8fb5o |
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ingy |
hahahah |
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rindolf |
ingy: 22 easy steps. |
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ingy |
I found a sweet ass wireless connection |
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eviltwin_b |
heh |
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rindolf |
OK, let's see how much Pugs' compilation strains my recently enlarged memory. |
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* ingy |
is in Ennis Ireland |
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ingy |
Ireland beat Australia in International Rules Football today |
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ingy |
and the right team won the bi rugby match |
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ingy |
so everyone is happy in this pub |
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ingy |
although I am eventually going to get this shite beat out of me for geeking out in this place |
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ingy |
hopefully I can get pugs installed first |
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eviltwin_b |
heh |
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* ingy |
downs another pint |
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rindolf |
Hmmm... ghc-6.6.x was only released this month and it's about to become a pugs requirement. |
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eviltwin_b |
I got the impression pugs drove ghc 6.6 development though |
| 21:08 |
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ingy |
not surprised |
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ingy |
pugs drives everything |
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eviltwin_b |
(to the detriment of some other Haskell-based projects...) |
| 21:09 |
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Debolaz |
Hrmm.. I've been spending most of the day trying to learn haskell. |
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Debolaz |
It strikes me as very bisarre, yet highly consistent. |
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Cugel |
What's its inconsistence? |
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eviltwin_b |
it is consistent. it's only bizarre until you wrap your head around its way of doing things |
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Debolaz |
Magical exceptions to rules. "You may always use function x except when y". |
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SamB |
Cugel: what inconsistence? |
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SamB |
Debolaz: what exceptions? |
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eviltwin_b |
(inmy case it helps that the building next door ouses a bunch of PL theorists, so I'm already exposed to functional programming think) |
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* Debolaz |
misread Cugel. |
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SamB |
oh. |
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Debolaz |
Haskell has sorta, kinda, fried my brain a bit today. |
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eviltwin_b |
most of the "magical" exceptions also make sense once you understand what's going on |
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ingy |
omg, perl5.8.8 is a prereq for ghc |
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* SamB |
suspects Cugel misread Debolaz, too |
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ingy |
perl5.8 rather |
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SamB |
most of the "magical" exceptions are just syntactical oddities... |
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SamB |
like n+k patterns |
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SamB |
or the handling of - |
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SamB |
the latter of which is the *worst* part of Haskell |
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mauke |
yeah, they should have made (-) a normal binary function |
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SamB |
of course, that leaves you with the question of how to write a negative literal |
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ingy |
0-42 |
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mauke |
neg 42 |
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SamB |
ingy: the evil mangler is written in PERL |
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eviltwin_b |
hm, ISTR reading that at one point - was (relatively) normal and negative literals were prefixed with _ --- but maybe I'm confusing with ML |
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eviltwin_b |
or one of the other functional languages |
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ingy |
SamB: it's "Perl" my friend |
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SamB |
> _1 |
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lambdabot |
Not in scope: `_1' |
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SamB |
ingy: whatever |
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ingy |
riiight |
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* SamB |
thinks the manpage threw him off |
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* ingy |
needs to learn HASKELL |
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mauke |
hmm, you probably want negative literals for patterns |
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SamB |
I'd want them just on principle |
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mauke |
what principle? no other language has them |
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SamB |
really? |
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SamB |
are you *certain*? |
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mauke |
no :-) |
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eviltwin_b |
I presume that refers to principoles, not negative literals :> |
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SamB |
I'm pretty sure Self has... |
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* ingy |
is wondering if perl will compile before his battery runs out |
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mauke |
Lisp probably does, but not C or Perl |
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SamB |
eviltwin_b: heh |
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SamB |
eviltwin_b: no |
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ingy |
I can't believe haskell deps on perl |
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ingy |
or ghc rather |
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ingy |
does hugs as well? |
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ingy |
does ghc have a run time or just a compile time dep on perl? |
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SamB |
compile time |
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mauke |
compile time; it mangles the generated asm |
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ingy |
can I delete the perl after I install ghc? |
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mauke |
oh, that runtime |
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mauke |
no |
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SamB |
*that* compile time? |
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ingy |
so perl is used for every time I compile foo.hs? |
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mauke |
I think it's only if you compile via C; I'm not sure though |
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SamB |
yeah, only for via-C |
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ingy |
as ND would say "Gah!" |
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SamB |
well, C's stack manipulation facilities SUCK |
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SamB |
also it won't let you put code and data next to eachother |
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ingy |
I hope that ghc remembers the full path to perl |
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SamB |
I'm fairly certain it isn't really all that particular about the version |
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ingy |
because I definitely don't want this new perl first in my PATH |
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ingy |
vbl |
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ingy |
ww |
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mauke |
s mr vwls |
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ingy |
is 'y' a vowel |
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ingy |
? |
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mauke |
depends on the context |
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ingy |
fck (y) |
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ingy |
;) |
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r14540 | fglock++ | v6 - fixed more array and hash tests |
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