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02:26 gnuvince ANyone here?
02:32 eviltwin_b fsvo
02:33 gnuvince Hey
02:33 eviltwin_b of course, if you're looking for someone clueful, that's nto helpful :)
02:33 gnuvince Quiet in here
02:33 gnuvince Hehe :)
02:34 eviltwin_b everyone's karmically bound to audreyt?
02:35 gnuvince Of course
02:36 gnuvince I was wondering the other day what ESR thought of the development model of Pugs.  When he wrote "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", I don't think he had in mind a project that would give commit access to anyone requesting it
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05:12 gaal good morning
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06:26 clkao b/win 42
06:28 PerlJam 42 windows?  you've got far too many.  Don't you know there some poor IRC newbies starving for more than one?
06:28 PerlJam :)
06:29 konobi anyone know the state of ecmascript on parrot?
06:33 PerlJam I think it's Texas
06:34 PerlJam konobi: Looks like the last bit of activity was back in september.
06:35 PerlJam konobi: and you'd probably get a better answer on #parrot (on irc.perl.org)
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10:39 svnbot6 r14812 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented Array/Hash deref
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11:09 svnbot6 r14813 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented ::Type( attr=>val )
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11:18 svnbot6 r14814 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented simple bind
11:27 svnbot6 r14815 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented 'if'
11:33 svnbot6 r14816 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - added 'has'
11:39 svnbot6 r14817 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - added 'do', 'use'
11:42 svnbot6 r14818 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - fixed 'say' with multiple args
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12:40 svnbot6 r14821 | fglock++ | MP6 - added 'hello-parrot.sh' - and it works!
12:44 xinming fglock++
13:01 svnbot6 r14822 | fglock++ | MP6 - tests reorganization
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14:03 * smash_ good afternoon
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15:17 svnbot6 r14825 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - minor reorganization of Sub/Method
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15:29 svnbot6 r14826 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented '$.var'
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15:32 pmurias hi
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15:34 pmurias fglock: what would me the prefered way for automatic handling of compilation for MP6
15:35 pmurias would a simple script which writes a Makefile be the right approach?
15:35 svnbot6 r14827 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - added 'ternary:<?? ::>'
15:39 GnuVince fglock: what is ternary:<?? ::>?  Hasn't it been renamed to ternary:<?? !!>?
15:40 [particle] GnuVince: in parrot, it's ?? ::
15:40 GnuVince [particle]: Ok.  What's the reason for this difference?
15:40 [particle] he's working on the parrot emitter, so there are parrot constructs
15:41 [particle] GnuVince: when the op was created in parrot, it was called ?? :: in perl6
15:41 [particle] p6spec changed
15:41 [particle] parrot impl didn't
15:41 [particle] ...which is fine. parrot's not *just* for perl6
15:41 fglock GnuVince: sorry, it's ?? !!
15:41 GnuVince Okay.
15:42 fglock pmurias: not sure yet, since we are dealing with multiple languages
15:42 GnuVince So in Perl6, the classical C ternary operator (?:) is ternary:<?? !!>, but in Parrot it's ternary:<?? ::>?
15:43 [particle] actually, i misspoke. in parrot it's 'if'
15:43 [particle] well, it's labels
15:43 [particle] there's no 'if' statement in pir/pasm
15:44 [particle] i need a little wake-me-up
15:45 Juerd [particle]: WAKE UP!!!!
15:45 lambdabot Juerd: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
15:45 Juerd lambdabot: Great.
15:45 Juerd It'd be useful if the bot just sent email :)
15:47 svnbot6 r14828 | fglock++ | MP6 - fixed ternary:<?? !!> spelling - GnuVince++
15:49 fglock pmurias: how about a 'mp6.pl' script that calls the backend-specific scripts
15:49 fglock and makes appropriate command-line switch processing
15:51 fglock particle: would you take a look at 'For'? I don't know how to handle iterating through an array
15:54 fglock oops - how do you revert a commit on a single file?
15:55 TimToady I note that it's also ternary<?? ::> in v6/v6-MiniPerl6-MO/lib/MiniPerl6/Grammar.pm and Perl5/Emitter.pm
15:56 fglock TimToady: that's fixed
15:56 TimToady not in 828
15:57 fglock how can I revert r14828 ? I made a bad mistake
15:57 fglock I committed from the wrong terminal
15:58 [particle] svn up -r 14827
15:58 [particle] then merge to head
15:59 rindolf Hi all.
15:59 rindolf Hi TimToady
16:00 fglock [particle]: svk says that there are conflicts, and doesn't do anything
16:01 fglock use '--force' ?
16:02 jamessan svn merge -r14828:$last_good_rev
16:03 pmurias fglock: meant to say 'of'
16:03 [particle] fglock: sorry, not an svk user :(
16:04 clkao fglock: svk merge -c -14828 //mirror/pugs //mirror/pugs
16:04 clkao but you need to pick your local revision
16:06 fglock clkao: I get a 'commit message' editor with no file list
16:06 jamessan clkao: aha, -c is handy. nice tip
16:06 * [particle] wishes -c worked on words like PREV and HEAD
16:06 fglock pmurias: compilation of mp6 is tricky, it can destroy the image - it would be nice to have a script that checked if the compilation went well
16:07 clkao fglock:try -C first
16:07 clkao -c -blah -C
16:07 clkao jamessan: svn has -c as well, but svk has minus number which means revert
16:08 fglock clkao: 'No such revision 14828'
16:09 clkao svk log -r14828@
16:09 fglock clkao: would you do the revert for me? to 14827
16:09 clkao i don't have a working pugs checkout right now. it's not another box
16:09 clkao fglock: you need to find your local revision
16:09 clkao or if you use trunk svk you can do -c -14828@ and don't hqve to worry about it
16:10 fglock clkao: 'Filesystem has no item: File not found: revision 14827, path '/trunk/v6/v6-MiniPerl6' '
16:10 fglock on svk log
16:10 [particle] clkao: does svk info give you the local rev number?
16:10 clkao yes
16:11 clkao fglock: go to top levle directory?
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16:11 jamessan clkao: svn has the minus number support too, at least according to --help
16:11 clkao ah ok. they stolen everything from us. clever ;)
16:11 jamessan heh
16:12 fglock clkao: found it: 'r15701 (orig r14808)'
16:12 fglock it's trunk svk
16:12 fglock afaik
16:13 fglock now 'svk merge -c 14828:14827' ?
16:13 clkao ok, svk merge -c -15701 //mirror/pugs //mirror/pugs
16:14 clkao wait, why does it show orig 14808 not 14828 ?
16:14 [particle] because he pushed from the wrong wc?
16:14 clkao how trunk ? can you do -c -14828@ //mirror/pugs //mirror/pugs ?
16:15 fglock no - 'Change spec -14828@ not recognized'
16:15 fglock should I do svk up -s first?
16:17 clkao no, this is only supported in latest svk
16:17 clkao svk log -r 14828@ //mirror/pugs ?
16:18 fglock 'Can't find local revision for 14828 on /mirror/pugs
16:19 clkao did you not commit 14828 from this svk ?
16:19 fglock can I get the file from the web interface? it's a single file
16:19 fglock clkao: no, I used another computer
16:19 fglock with svn
16:20 fglock maybe I should revert there?
16:20 clkao so svk sync -a first
16:21 fglock done
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16:21 fglock svk log = same error
16:22 clkao does sync say anything?
16:23 fglock 'Starting to synchronize /pugs/trunk' / 'Syncing http://...'
16:23 clkao bah
16:23 clkao use //pugs/trunk rather than //mirror/pugs then
16:25 fglock same problem - but I was able to 'svn up -r14827' on the other computer, so everything is fine now
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16:33 fglock clkao: sorry, need help again - 'svk up' stopped working - 'File not found: revision 14827'
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16:42 clkao fglock: does it say what's not found in that revision?
16:43 fglock it says 'path '/trunk/v6/v6-MiniPerl6'
16:45 clkao are you doing up in v6-miniperl6 or toplevel?
16:45 fglock in toplevel
16:47 clkao that's really odd. try to edit ~/.svk/config and kill the v6/v6-miniperl6 entry
16:50 fglock that fixed it - thanks!
16:52 fglock except that is is missing some files, like hello.sh
16:52 clkao svk revert those ?
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16:57 fglock clkao: can I svk revert a directory?
16:57 [particle] svk revert .
16:59 fglock [particle]: didn't work
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17:18 fglock clkao: I tried ~/pugs/v6/$ svk revert -R v6-MiniPerl6  -- 'Unknown target: v6-MiniPerl6'
17:18 clkao svk st ?
17:21 fglock clkao: 'svk st' only shows a few '?' items and nothing else
17:22 clkao just revert -R . ? you sure there's vt-miniperl6 in that revision?
17:23 fglock clkao: it shows up in the web
17:24 fglock clkao: http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/v6/v6-MiniPerl6/
17:24 lambdabot Title: Revision 14828: /v6/v6-MiniPerl6
17:24 clkao svk ls ?
17:25 clkao what does svk info say ? is your mirro updated/
17:28 fglock one sec, pasting
17:29 pasteling "fglock" at 201.35.169.13 pasted "svk report" (18 lines, 396B) at http://sial.org/pbot/21286
17:30 clkao so there's v6-MiniPerl6/ when you do ls, but it doesn't exist?
17:31 fglock yes, plain 'ls' doesn't see it
17:33 clkao that's really odd. how about rechecking out ?
17:33 clkao did you do something crazy in your checkout? ;P
17:34 fglock oh, I always do something crazy
17:34 fglock do you mean '~/pugs$ svk co'
17:35 clkao no, kill the tree and checkout again
17:35 clkao or nopaste ~/.svk/conf
17:35 clkao but i don't really have time for debug today
17:37 fglock but that will try to download all revisions back, right?
17:39 mj41_ hello, Synopses (  http://perl6.cz/wiki/Synopses ) with history ( http://perl6.cz/w/index.php?title=S06&amp;action=history  ) on MediaWiki
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17:42 * rgs drops a note :
17:42 rgs http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2006-11/msg00815.html
17:42 lambdabot Title: New development release in sight, http://tinyurl.com/y6jvvg
17:48 obra rgs++
17:49 clkao rgs++
17:49 rgs clkao: lexical aliases are mentioned here. that's a hint to Data::Bind :)
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17:55 clkao fglock: svk up ?
17:56 clkao why is your v6 older than the root? did you do a update for that?
17:56 fglock clkao: svk up worked!
17:56 svnbot6 r14829 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - fixed nested-if
17:57 fglock clkao: I don't know how it started
17:58 fglock clkao: much thanks!
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19:16 svnbot6 r14833 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - finished 'for' -- 'for [1,2,3] -> $x { say $x }' works
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19:38 cognominal does the :ratchet modifier applyes to the non greedy-match? because in that case, backtracking really means advancing in the chain?
19:38 svnbot6 r14835 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - fixed 'for'-variable
19:38 cognominal s/applyes/applies/
19:39 fglock cognominal: :ratchet does not apply to quantifiers (afaik)
19:40 fglock but don't take my word on it
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19:52 cognominal "including bare *, +, and ? quantifiers" # so that eliminates non greedy
19:56 svnbot6 r14836 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - methods
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20:37 TimToady I have discovered that Bill and Kathy's in Dunnigan has free wifi.  :)
20:38 Juerd [free wifi]++
20:39 TimToady but I don't know how many lambdacamels drive up and down I-5...
20:39 svnbot6 r14837 | lwall++ | Couple more ??:: -> ??!!
20:41 TimToady lunch @ Bill & Kathy's &
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21:04 dmq TimToady: thanks for the links.
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