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03:22 jdv79 is feather.perl6.nl supposed to be not there;)
03:31 wolverian dns problems again?
03:31 wolverian er, or whatever it was last time. :)
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12:21 nothingmuch ?eval sub foo { my $x; my $bar = sub { $x }; $x = 1;  $bar }; foo().()
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12:21 evalbot_r14838 \1
12:21 nothingmuch ?eval sub foo { my $x; my $bar = sub { $x }; $x := 1;  $bar }; foo().()
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13:23 mj41 http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/pdfs/LXF64.iview.pdf ... Benevolent dictator for life, interesting interview with Guido von Rossum , linuxformat.co.uk, 25.1.2005
13:23 nothingmuch audreyt: anatolyv and I are really confused... do you have a minute?
13:23 lambdabot http://tinyurl.com/y4u29q
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16:56 ingy seen audreyt
16:56 jabbot ingy: audreyt was seen 2 days 4 hours 36 minutes 23 seconds ago
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17:01 nothingmuch ingy: her blog implies she should be back around this weekend
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17:37 ingy thanks nothingmuch
17:37 ingy nothingmuch: I had this idea
17:37 nothingmuch aye
17:38 ingy do you have time to discuss?
17:38 nothingmuch yes
17:38 ingy I want to support an alternate mode of M::C
17:38 ingy so instead of .pm -> .pmc
17:38 ingy something else
17:38 ingy before I was thinking .p -> .pm
17:39 ingy but now I think src/Foo.pm -> lib/Foo.pm
17:39 nothingmuch sounds useful
17:39 ingy the problem is where to put the src in blib (thus installation)
17:40 nothingmuch Foo.pm.src?
17:40 ingy blib/lib/Foo.pms?
17:40 ingy ooh
17:40 ingy not bad at all
17:40 ingy I like your idea
17:40 nothingmuch just keep the mapping function pluggable
17:41 nothingmuch given a base dir and a sub path
17:41 ingy nod
17:41 nothingmuch map the sub path to something else
17:41 ingy WWDPD?
17:41 nothingmuch letting the base dir be the same (in the pm -> .pmc case) or different (in the src -> lib case)
17:41 nothingmuch who is DP?
17:41 ingy what would Data::Package do?
17:41 nothingmuch ih
17:41 nothingmuch oh
17:41 nothingmuch i dunno
17:42 ingy ok, well unless DP has a better idea I'll go with yours
17:42 ingy thanks
17:42 ingy *kiss*
17:42 nothingmuch what does it actually do?
17:42 nothingmuch *kiss*
17:43 nothingmuch i mean, i know it's some abstract whatever to put data on the CPAN
17:43 ingy yeah, I need to look into it
17:44 nothingmuch i think it's more of a base role type thing
17:45 nothingmuch ingy: are you in .tw yet?
17:45 ingy yet?
17:45 nothingmuch i heard you mention something about looking for crashspace
17:45 ingy am I supposed to be?
17:45 nothingmuch i figured you were going to move there for a while again
17:45 ingy oh
17:46 ingy I want to go there for a few weeks near YAPC::Asia
17:46 nothingmuch ah
17:46 ingy I'll also be at Wikimania there in August
17:46 ingy hot!
17:46 nothingmuch humid!
17:47 nothingmuch not very sexy!
17:47 ingy maybe I'll just walk around in my undies
17:47 nothingmuch ooh
17:47 nothingmuch pix please
17:47 ingy heh
17:47 nothingmuch Ingies Gone Wiki
17:47 nothingmuch "Show us your bits!"
17:48 ingy nice
17:48 nothingmuch Ingies Gone Wild: Ultimate Conference Season
17:49 ingy Jemplate-0.20 released
17:49 nothingmuch (/me is reading the Girls Gone Wild wikipedia entry for more ideas ;-)
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17:49 ingy :P
17:49 nothingmuch Ingies Gone Wild: Sexy Opensource Sweethearts
17:50 ingy ok you can stop now
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17:50 ingy you're driving me wild
17:50 nothingmuch Ingies Gone Wiki: Is that a moose in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
17:50 ingy and I have a meeting in 10 minutes
17:50 nothingmuch ooh!
17:54 nothingmuch Ingies Gone Wiki: Ingy gets a Heat Stroke[ing]
17:54 nothingmuch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guys_Gone_Wild
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19:17 pmurias hi
19:31 pasteling "nothingmuch" at 84.108.53.74 pasted "Base roles" (124 lines, 3.1K) at http://sial.org/pbot/21331
19:32 nothingmuch @tell cmarcelo http://sial.org/pbot/21331 -- any thoughts?
19:32 lambdabot Consider it noted.
19:39 pmurias nothingmuch: what's your experience with narrative javascript? would you recommend it for production work?
19:39 nothingmuch no experience at all except "oOh! shiny!"
19:40 pmurias well at least it's better than "oOh! yucky!" :)
19:41 nothingmuch =)
19:44 pmurias do people have the find(1) command on OS X by default?
19:44 nothingmuch yes
19:44 nothingmuch but it's not GNU find
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19:47 pmurias i'm writing a build script for MP6, and hope fglock would be able to use it
19:47 pmurias s/would/will/
19:48 [particle] if he won't, i will ;)
19:52 pmurias i'll take a shower, and reread the svn book chapter on authentication to commit the initial version
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19:59 offby1 is it me, or is http://perlcabal.org/syn/ quite slow?
19:59 lambdabot Title: Official Perl 6 Documentation
20:00 offby1 silly bot
20:00 pasteling "nothingmuch" at 84.108.53.74 pasted "Base roles" (155 lines, 4.7K) at http://sial.org/pbot/21332
20:01 nothingmuch @tell cmarcelo a better version: http://sial.org/pbot/21332
20:01 lambdabot Consider it noted.
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20:14 pmurias i get RA layer request failed: PROPFIND request failed on '/': PROPFIND of '/': 200 OK (http://svn.pugscode.org)
20:14 lambdabot Title: Perl6 Community Development Server
20:15 pmurias when i try to svk pull or svk ci?
20:15 pmurias is it a local problem at my box?
20:16 * offby1 stares blankly
20:19 [particle] svn up works for me
20:23 pmurias will sleep and try at a future time&
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21:02 nothingmuch can this be more idiomatic? exists %args{ $attr.name } ? \( delete %args{ $attr.name } ) : \();
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21:09 Juerd nothingmuch: Yes, with ?? !! it will be more idiomatic AND work much better ;)
21:14 nothingmuch err
21:15 * nothingmuch wants a hash existence monad ;-)
21:16 [particle] { .exists and .delete } given $args{ $attr.name } # WAG
21:16 nothingmuch WAG ?
21:16 [particle] wild-a$$ guess
21:16 nothingmuch ah
21:16 nothingmuch heh
21:17 [particle] it's a common animal in these parts ;)
21:18 nothingmuch ;-)
21:18 nothingmuch my $arg = given %args{ $attr.name } { exists ?? \( delete ) !! \() }
21:18 nothingmuch i need the actual capture, but that reads nicer
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22:16 nothingmuch @tell cmarcelo permanent URL: http://nothingmuch.woobling.​org/MO/notes/base_roles.txt
22:17 lambdabot Consider it noted.
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23:09 cmarcelo ahoy
23:09 lambdabot cmarcelo: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
23:09 cmarcelo lambdabot: moosa
23:09 cmarcelo lambdabot: @moosa
23:09 lambdabot Unknown command, try @list
23:10 cmarcelo lambdabot: @moosag
23:10 lambdabot Unknown command, try @list
23:10 cmarcelo lambdabot: @moosages
23:10 lambdabot nothingmuch said 3h 37m 47s ago: http://sial.org/pbot/21331 -- any thoughts?
23:10 lambdabot nothingmuch said 3h 9m 1s ago: a better version: http://sial.org/pbot/21332
23:10 lambdabot nothingmuch said 53m 14s ago: permanent URL: http://nothingmuch.woobling.​org/MO/notes/base_roles.txt
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