Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2006-11-23

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00:10 cmarcelo nothingmuch: nice diagram.. (constr_destru_seri.pdf) /me wonders when Dia will get near graffle...
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00:46 cmarcelo @tell nothingmuch In MO/Compile/Attribute/Simple/Compiled.pm, line 94. looks like it's $self->slot instead of $slot...
00:46 lambdabot Consider it noted.
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00:52 cmarcelo @tell nothingmuch where's Generate::PMC ?
00:52 lambdabot Consider it noted.
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00:56 * offby1 considers it noted
01:02 * Debolaz reads up on the license debate around pugs.
01:04 cognominal "coffee fifo fumble" ~~ m/ $<effs>:=[f <-[f]>**{1..2} \s*]+ /;
01:04 cognominal     say $<effs>;    # prints "fee fifo fum"
01:04 * offby1 's head hurts
01:05 offby1 must be a newer pugs than what I got
01:05 cognominal the <-[-f]> should probably read \S
01:05 cognominal ...in S05
01:07 cognominal hum, and that would print "ffee fifo fum"
01:09 cognominal Someday I wikk be able to read S05 in one sitting
01:09 cognominal s/wikk/will/
01:12 nothingmuch cmarcelo: http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/Generate-PMC
01:12 lambdabot nothingmuch: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
01:12 lambdabot Title: Index of /Generate-PMC
01:12 nothingmuch @messages
01:12 lambdabot cmarcelo said 26m 36s ago: In MO/Compile/Attribute/Simple/Compiled.pm, line 94. looks like it's $self->slot instead of $slot...
01:12 lambdabot cmarcelo said 19m 55s ago: where's Generate::PMC ?
01:13 nothingmuch cmarcelo: the $slot thing -- please see sub slot right above it, line 79
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01:57 cmarcelo nothingmuch: ok. but $self->slot gets to the sub in 79, dont?
02:03 nothingmuch yes
02:03 nothingmuch it's just shorthand for ( $self->slots )[0]
02:04 nothingmuch but it also dies if there are too many
02:06 cmarcelo ok. the tests were not working because the line was $slot instead of $self->slot...
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02:31 svnbot6 r14839 | Darren_Duncan++ | ext/Set-Relation/ : added (docs for) the generic tclose (transitive closure) unary relational operator, which takes a binary relation representing all arcs in a graph and derives a binary relation representing all paths in that graph ... useful for recursive queries like explosion-of-parts
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04:10 Debolaz Is there a hg mirror of pugs? (I'm asking because I'll probably set one up if there isn't)
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06:29 araujo mmm...
06:29 araujo Could anybody help me translating part of this?
06:29 araujo http://www.cyut.edu.tw/~ckhung/b/pr/expression.php
06:29 araujo :-)
06:29 lambdabot Title: ¹Bºâ¦¡, http://tinyurl.com/yj7fbj
07:00 xnito what is the error message you get?
07:03 araujo xnito, ?
07:03 xnito i cant see the error
07:04 araujo it isn't an error
07:04 araujo xnito, it is just a small article about postfix notation
07:04 araujo but it is on chinese
07:05 araujo so since i know some chinese speakers hang around the channel, i ask for some help to translate a part of it.
07:05 araujo online translators stink :-P
07:06 offby1 google's translation thing _claims_ to be able to translate it, but does absolutely nothing
07:06 araujo probably it's because of .php?
07:07 offby1 beats me
07:08 xnito my perl distribution doesnt load. :(
07:08 xnito the file
07:09 xnito message: perl has generated an error
07:12 araujo ?
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08:50 nothingmuch morning
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09:40 gaal hey nothingmuch. remember that lisp-in-c cps/stack hackery paper? still got that link?
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09:45 nothingmuch http://home.pipeline.com/~hbaker1/CheneyMTA.html
09:45 lambdabot Title: Cheney on the M.T.A., http://tinyurl.com/purol
09:45 nothingmuch gaal: moose!
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10:22 svnbot6 r14840 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - autogenerated accessors, class variables, method calls
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10:50 anatolyv morning nothingmuch
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11:05 cmarcelo nothingmuch: re $slot: the repo is right, but my darcs "misbehaved" yesterday, after the pull it indicated conflicts, which I just reverted and gave wrong code..
11:14 nothingmuch oh!
11:14 nothingmuch when that happens run 'darcs repair' to make sure everything is OK
11:14 nothingmuch then unpull a bunch of patches, like the last 5
11:14 nothingmuch revert carefully
11:14 nothingmuch and repull
11:14 nothingmuch that tends to sort anything out without needing to think too much
11:17 cmarcelo thanks. I'm a little busy these days but I'm trying to grok your base_roles.txt
11:17 nothingmuch it's an implementation of the STD methods
11:17 nothingmuch like .new, .clone, etc
11:17 nothingmuch in terms of autogenerated metaness
11:18 nothingmuch not 100% correct for p6 since that uses prototype objects
11:18 nothingmuch but for a class driven meta model i think it's pretty good
11:20 cmarcelo nice.. oh, did you and fglock got something done on mp6 MO?
11:21 nothingmuch not that I know of
11:21 nothingmuch i gave him some info
11:21 nothingmuch and he checked in r14840 which could potentially use that
11:21 nothingmuch but I don't know if it actually does or any details for that matter
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11:35 anatolyv anyone has any idea where unspace is allowed in p6?
11:36 anatolyv that is, $foo\   .[something] is legal, but is $fo\   o = something?
11:55 Juerd Good question. I don't know.
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13:46 nothingmuch @tell cmarcelo Since you had trouble finding Generate::PMC i set this up: http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/cgi-bin/darcs.cgi (linked from my homepage)
13:46 lambdabot Consider it noted.
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15:35 svnbot6 r14841 | pmurias++ | MP6: initial implementation of a build system, does no modification date checking
15:35 svnbot6 r14841 | pmurias++ | or automating testing yet, uses the shell heavily
16:01 fglock pmurias: maybe you should use mp6-perl5-boot.pl instead of mp6-perl5-v6.pl
16:01 svnbot6 r14842 | pmurias++ | MP6: fixed path in make-perl5.pl
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16:30 pmurias fglock: hi!
16:31 pmurias changed, the second commit is less b0rked, but it failes to compile the whole lib/ for me
16:32 pmurias is it a problem with the compilation method or the code itself?
16:32 pmurias (using mp6-perl5-boot.pl now)
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16:34 fglock pmurias: the perl5 runtime files are not mp6 - that's a possible problem
16:35 pmurias i don't understand...
16:35 pmurias s/.*/explain more please/
16:36 fglock lib/MiniPerl6/Perl5/Runtime.pm and lib/MiniPerl6/Perl5/Match.pm don't need to be compiled
16:36 fglock they are native perl5
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16:39 pmurias thanks
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18:44 anatolyv TimToady: thanks for the clarification on unspace :)
18:49 nothingmuch TimToady: now you can clarify the closure issues ;-)
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20:03 nothingmuch see you guys sunday
20:04 rindolf nothingmuch: bye!
20:04 rindolf nothingmuch: are you going?
20:04 rindolf nothingmuch: or are you saying bye to the Americans?
20:05 nothingmuch hiking
20:06 nothingmuch thanksgiving weekend is not like interdimensional travel.. i doubt the americans really need to be parted from ;-)
20:08 rindolf nothingmuch: where are you hiking to?
20:11 nothingmuch israel trail
20:11 nothingmuch dunno to where, do know from where
20:11 rindolf nothingmuch: I see.
20:11 rindolf nothingmuch: from where then?
20:11 nothingmuch zeharia
20:11 rindolf nothingmuch: OK.
20:12 rindolf Nice.
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21:19 cognominal what is the pugs equivalent of the x command in perldb?
21:21 cognominal ok,  the .perl method is an good equivalent
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21:50 gaal cognominal: .yaml is the alternative
21:51 gnuvince yaml++
21:53 rindolf Hi gaal
21:53 rindolf gaal: what's up?
21:54 rindolf gaal: how much did the OED cost you? The Amazon list price is $999.
21:54 rindolf Good thing it's not a 4-digit number.
21:57 offby1 years ago you could get the two-volume-with-the-magnifying-glass edition from the Book of the Month Club for like $30
21:58 rindolf They still sell it on Amazon.
21:59 offby1 golly!
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22:12 * smash_ good evening
22:13 * offby1 good afternoon
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22:35 cognominal thx gaal
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23:05 anatolyv nothingmuch: have a nice hike, if you're still around
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