Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2006-11-29

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02:31 svnbot6 r14853 | cmarcelo++ | * Pugs.Class.C3: Now the algorithm identifies loops in hierarchy and
02:31 svnbot6 r14853 | cmarcelo++ | fail with proper error instead of infinite looping. Tests for this
02:31 svnbot6 r14853 | cmarcelo++ | case included, borrowed from Algorithm::C3 perl module.
02:31 svnbot6 r14853 | cmarcelo++ |         konobi++ blblack++ (A::C3 folks)
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03:25 TreyHarris TimToady: "exception", not "expection"
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03:34 eviltwin_b ah, and the happydancing finally begins? :)
03:35 eviltwin_b yup
03:35 dduncan TimToady, even with that typo commit, the problem remains?
03:36 dduncan you just changed "expections" to "expection"
03:36 dduncan since you're reading this, I also have feedback on some of your main wording ... specifically, you were using the term "value" in a number of places where "element" may have worked better ...
03:40 dduncan for example, "Perl hash that autodeletes values matching default" maybe is more accurate as "Perl hash that autodeletes elements whose values match default"
03:40 dduncan at least, when I read "values" in the context of a Hash, that doesn't mean "key and value", just "value"
03:41 dduncan now, if "value" means the entire element to you and most people, then fine, leave the present wording
03:43 dduncan mind you, the describing paragraph uses both 'element' and 'value' in the more accurate fashion
03:45 dduncan in the end, the current wording is fine, so I retract any change request
04:10 TimToady I can't believe how many people (including me) noticed the "expection"...  I even got email...
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05:09 flw Preprocessing library Pugs-6.2.12...
05:09 flw Building Pugs-6.2.12...
05:09 flw [ 8 of 95] Compiling Pugs.Exp[boot]   ( src/Pugs/Exp.hs-boot, nothing )
05:09 flw [18 of 95] Compiling Pugs.Internals   ( src/Pugs/Internals.hs, dist\build/Pugs/I
05:09 flw nternals.o )
05:09 flw src/Pugs/Internals.hs:69:4:
05:09 flw    Ambiguous occurrence `forM'
05:09 flw    It could refer to either `forM', defined at src/Pugs/Internals.hs:356:0
05:09 flw                          or `forM', imported from Control.Monad.RWS at src/Pugs
05:09 flw /Internals.hs:116:0-23
05:09 flw Windows XP
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06:02 flw hi all
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10:33 svnbot6 r14854 | fglock++ | MP6-Parrot Runtime:
10:33 svnbot6 r14854 | fglock++ | - added class ::Match
10:33 svnbot6 r14854 | fglock++ | - added infix:  + - ~ eq ne
10:33 svnbot6 r14854 | fglock++ | - added prefix: ! ? ~
10:33 svnbot6 r14854 | fglock++ | - added functions: defined(), substr()
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12:47 Limbic_Region anyone here ever heard of an "instant access file" - probably in the context of a Windows box?
12:47 anatolyv doesn't sound familiar.
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16:35 Limbic_Region salutations all
16:37 gnuvince Hi L_R
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16:49 Limbic_Region erie quiet today
16:50 gnuvince Action usually starts at noon, EST.
16:50 Limbic_Region well - there are actually several hotspots in a 24 hour period of time
16:50 Limbic_Region given audreyt and other's timezones
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17:10 TimToady rehi
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17:12 PerlJam Hello TimToady
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18:44 elmex elmex++
18:44 perlbot What kind of idiot karmas himself?  Your kind of idiot!
18:44 elmex elmex++
18:44 perlbot What kind of idiot karmas himself?  Your kind of idiot!
18:44 elmex elmex++
18:44 perlbot What kind of idiot karmas himself?  Your kind of idiot!
18:44 elmex elmex++
18:44 perlbot What kind of idiot karmas himself?  Your kind of idiot!
18:44 elmex elmex++
18:44 perlbot What kind of idiot karmas himself?  Your kind of idiot!
18:44 elmex perlbot: FUCK YOU RETARD
18:46 jrockway perlbot++
18:46 jrockway ;)
18:47 elmex jrockway--
18:47 elmex perlbot--
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18:48 elmex (this ++ stuff is not democracy, it's just retarded)
18:49 qmole feel free not to use it
18:50 * PerlJam didn't notice anyone claiming that karma was democratic
18:50 elmex but i have to see it everytime i read perl6 commit logs, it's making me absolutley sick
18:50 gnuvince elmex: why?
18:51 elmex because it makes no sense to write ++ after everyones name
18:52 gnuvince It's a form of a praise.  Example: audreyt++ is so cool for allowing so many committers into Pugs
18:52 gnuvince or
18:53 gnuvince gnuvince-- committed a change to the repository without testing it, this breaking the entire thing
18:53 gnuvince s/this/thus
18:53 elmex oh yes, a big commit-bit list is always a good sign... "oh you found a bug in my software? here is the commit bit, fix it please"
18:54 elmex does perlbot support -- ?
18:55 gnuvince yes
18:55 gnuvince karma: foo
18:55 elmex at least that
18:55 elmex perlbot: karma foo
18:55 perlbot Karma for foo: 53
18:55 jabbot elmex: foo has neutral karma
18:55 elmex foo--
18:55 elmex perlbot: karma foo
18:55 perlbot Karma for foo: 52
18:55 jabbot elmex: foo has karma of -1
18:55 elmex perlbot: karma elmex
18:55 perlbot Karma for elmex: -17
18:55 jabbot elmex: elmex has karma of 9
18:55 elmex elmex--
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18:55 elmex perlbot: karma elmex
18:55 perlbot Karma for elmex: -18
18:55 jabbot elmex: elmex has karma of 8
18:55 elmex elmex++
18:55 perlbot What kind of idiot karmas himself?  Your kind of idiot!
18:55 elmex perlbot: karma elmex
18:56 perlbot Karma for elmex: -19
18:56 jabbot elmex: elmex has karma of 9
18:56 elmex jabbot: elmex++
18:56 perlbot What kind of idiot karmas himself?  Your kind of idiot!
18:56 jabbot elmex: Does talking about this bother you?
19:00 elmex perlbot: karma audrey
19:00 perlbot Karma for audrey: 2
19:00 jabbot elmex: audrey has neutral karma
19:00 elmex perlbot: karma audreyt
19:00 perlbot Karma for audreyt: 290
19:00 jabbot elmex: audreyt has karma of 2756
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19:32 jrockway elmex: you need a perl culture lesson, I think
19:32 jrockway people generally approve of something ++ and something --
19:32 jrockway people also approve of Pugs' give everyone a commit bit approach
19:32 jrockway it works, it makes development easy
19:32 elmex jrockway: you mean 'perl6 culture' don't you? i see that ++ thingie almost never on p5p
19:33 jrockway p5p is a different crowd
19:33 elmex right, p5p is not perl eh? :)
19:33 jrockway but head over to #anything-on-irc.perl.org and you'll see it being used
19:33 audreyt no, the karma is from #perl
19:33 audreyt which is the primary perl5 chat channel on irc.perl.org
19:33 elmex aaah, you speak of #perl
19:33 audreyt it's a IRC subculture
19:33 elmex ok
19:33 audreyt not really related to mailing list
19:33 jrockway it shows up on use.perl.org too ;)
19:34 audreyt it's an extension here to use as a postfix sigil to denote people
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19:34 audreyt e.g. "theory++" is a person, but "theory" is likely just a theory
19:34 jrockway yes, makes things much easier to read :)
19:35 jrockway elmex: you'll get used to it after a while, don't worry :)
19:35 elmex of course, after 6 years i only need 2 aspirin instead of 6
19:35 jrockway elmex++
19:36 elmex yay
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20:07 justatheory theory++
20:07 justatheory what the hell?
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21:15 gaal so #perl6 has postfix sigils denoting personhood?
21:18 kolibrie gaal++ # realizes he's a person
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21:35 Juerd 20:34 < audreyt> it's an extension here to use as a postfix sigil to denote people
21:35 Juerd Errr
21:35 Juerd First time I ever hear that
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21:35 Juerd It's quite common to say "bicycles++" to mean "I like bicycles"
21:35 Juerd Doesn't mean bicycles are people, does it? :)
21:37 avar bukakke++
21:39 kolibrie Juerd: I think then you could say (bicycles)++, to mean it is not a person
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21:40 Juerd kolibrie: I'd hate that, because it differs wildly from how I've always used karma syntax on IRC.
21:40 Juerd () is used for delimiting, e.g. when the subject has whitespace in it
21:41 kolibrie true
21:41 pmurias and what would someone-- mean, inhuman?
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21:51 avar the syntax is whatever++
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