Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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05:59 geoffb Anyone happen to know the status of 6-on-5?  Is the (sub)project still alive?
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06:04 geoffb Wheee, nothing like asking a question just as the entire IRC net is rebooted ....
06:04 geoffb Let's try that again:
06:04 geoffb Anyone happen to know the status of 6-on-5?  Is the (sub)project still alive?
06:05 geoffb IIRC, the latest v6-alpha on CPAN is from September.
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06:07 geoffb Oh for heaven's sake ... maybe I'll just wait half an hour for freenode to stop burping
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06:18 Alias_ geoffb, it's still coming along, the component parts are being polished still
06:18 Alias_ Because I believe the run-time stuff is not trivial
06:18 geoffb Alias_: nodnod
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06:19 geoffb Just trying to get an idea on when I can actually usefully convert the code I'm working on.  (And still have it running at fullish speed.)
06:19 Alias_ A while yet
06:20 geoffb Sigh
06:20 Alias_ Well, you know what's involved in having Perl 6 run WITHOUT anyone ever installing Perl 6...
06:20 geoffb Ah well, file me under "Still Life with Source Filter"
06:20 Alias_ Give it a few months
06:21 geoffb Alias_: I have.  ;-)
06:21 Alias_ ... again
06:21 geoffb Seriously though, just was wanting to get status, because none of the usual places to look said anything
06:21 geoffb Pugs' STATUS document hasn't been updated in almost a year now.
06:22 Alias_ poke Audrey :)
06:22 geoffb So I had no idea if things had completely stalled, or whether it was just bubbling behind the scenes
06:22 Alias_ They are probably been too busy boding for the last year
06:22 Alias_ coding
06:22 Alias_ Nah, not stalled at all
06:22 geoffb I thought she was working tail off at $work?
06:22 Alias_ It moves ahead like the veritable freight train
06:23 geoffb Schweet
06:23 Alias_ I believe the commit rate still describes an expodential curve
06:23 geoffb Good.  As it should be.  :-)
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06:24 Alias_ I believe the issue now is they are getting to the business end
06:25 geoffb meaning?
06:25 Alias_ Making parrot, Perl 6 and the Perl 6 backends all line up, so to speak
06:25 Alias_ er
06:25 Alias_ parrot, Perl 5 and the...
06:25 Alias_ I lose track sometimes, it's  a veritable octopus of components
06:25 geoffb Right, so finally getting the common point in the middle (the AST) to really be common ....
06:25 geoffb heh
06:25 Alias_ Well
06:26 Alias_ Perl 6 -> ... -> Haskell is fine
06:26 Alias_ Perl 6 -> ... -> Perl 5/parrot is the trickier stuff
06:26 geoffb gotcha
06:26 Alias_ But then parts of parrot are reaching up to replace bits of pugs, and downwards, and sideways, etc etc
06:27 Alias_ The next round of releasey type stuff should appear some time soon I suspect
06:27 geoffb Somehow I have visions of black and white B- horror flicks
06:27 Alias_ But then only Audrey and Larry know for sure
06:27 Alias_ pretty much :)
06:27 geoffb nodnod
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22:49 GeJ good møöse möøses
23:02 fglock GeJ: greetings
23:03 GeJ hello fglock
23:05 fglock this is so silent
23:06 GeJ Is audrey still missing?
23:07 fglock yes, it seems so
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23:13 fglock geoffb: re status of 6-on-5
23:14 fglock the current plan is to have 6-on-6, which compiles to perl5
23:18 fglock 6-on-6 would be bootstrapped with mini-p6, which compiles to all backends
23:19 fglock mini-p6 currently compiles to p5 and parrot. The p5 backend is bootstrapped
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23:23 fglock I think that bootstrapping on other backends would be nice, so I'm working on the parrot bootstrap
23:24 fglock v6.pm and Pugs::Compiler::Rule are not meant to be abandoned - I'm looking for comaintainers
23:27 fglock re "getting the common point in the middle (the AST) to really be common"
23:28 fglock I don't think it is possible, as it would need the current compilers to be rewritten
23:29 fglock 6-on-6 would be a common parser/common AST for several backends
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