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IRC log for #perl6, 2006-12-26

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15:51 Schwern No Christmas present this year?
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19:12 TreyHarris anyone heard from audreyt since the earthquake?
19:15 gaal there was an earthquake? :(
19:16 allbery_b which one?
19:16 TreyHarris http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/​26/world/asia/26cnd-taiwan.html
19:17 * allbery_b heard of two recently, largeish one near taiwan and smallish near japan
19:17 TreyHarris well, audreyt lives in taipei
19:18 TreyHarris http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqc​enter/eqinthenews/2006/uswtai/
19:18 lambdabot Title: USGS Earthquake Hazards Program » Magnitude 7.1 - TAIWAN REGION
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19:20 miyagawa I don't think we had any big one in Japan
19:22 ingy audreyt is in the north of taiwan. I don't think it was so big of a deal there
19:22 TreyHarris really, i thought she was in taipei
19:22 allbery_b a 4.1 was reported near japan a couple days ago.  don't think it did much of anything
19:22 TreyHarris oh, north
19:22 * TreyHarris laughs
19:23 TreyHarris I get my left and right confused, but now I'm confusing my north and south....
19:23 miyagawa Taipei (台北) means North of Taiwan
19:24 miyagawa apparently the quake is centered on the south Taiwan
19:24 miyagawa 台南 (Tainan)
19:25 miyagawa So if she lives in Taipei, it's away from the quake. At least I hope so
19:26 ingy she lives almost in Taipei, there is really nothig to worry about afaict
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19:29 audreyt I didn't even feel the quake
19:29 lambdabot audreyt: You have 11 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
19:30 audreyt in fact I was just about to sleep -- it's 3:30am here :)
19:30 audreyt people in taipei city (i.e. inside the basin) reported that it was noticeable but nothing to worry about
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19:30 audreyt as I live on the mountains in the taipei county now, there's even less to worry about :)
19:31 miyagawa good to hear that.
19:31 TreyHarris Well good, i'm glad.  I heard "southwest of Taiwan" and visualized a dot up and to the right, somewhere near Taipei.  Sometimes my geographic sense gets reversed like that....
19:32 audreyt TreyHarris: but really, much gratitude for caring about my well being :)
19:32 TreyHarris :)
19:37 gaal yo. I have a new module I'd love y'all to review :)
19:37 Tene what is it?
19:37 gaal uploading, sec
19:38 gaal it's a ... transparent factory! :)
19:38 audreyt as for well-being: I've been on extremely high level of phenethylamines and norepinephrine lately, but as of this week I've attained a more regular vasopressin and endorphin level; the latter chemicals are less contradictory to hacking, I hear, so that's good news :-)
19:38 ingy I just got the weirdest email
19:38 * audreyt waves and sleeps &
19:39 ingy Dec 26 Stacy Sheppard  (  22) Future Inline Development
19:39 b_jonas a transparent factory... that reminds me to Charlie and the chocolate factory
19:39 ingy the body of the email is:
19:39 ingy Brian???
19:39 gaal mmmm, transparent chocolate
19:39 ingy that's it... wtf?
19:40 allbery_b either some spammy graphic or some virus autodeleted?
19:40 allbery_b otherwise it's probably intended to to fuzz spam-detecting Bayes networks
19:42 gaal or just a probe
19:43 ingy It had to be a personal email
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19:44 ingy referring to Inline Development and Brian seems unlikely
19:44 gaal http://perlcabal.org/~gaal/tmp/C​lass-TransparentFactory-0.01.tgz
19:44 ingy as something generated
19:44 gaal maybe Stacy was like
19:44 gaal OMG Brian!!!11 my code is SO SHORT NOW that I use Inline. How did you DO IT?
19:45 TreyHarris ingy: i get spam with meaningless snippets of perl6-language and perl6-users sometimes.
19:45 gaal anymoose, comments very welcome on that distro; the perldoc oughta explain it enough!
19:45 TreyHarris they're smart enough to analyze what mail you get based on public list archives
19:46 gaal anyone remember how to prevent closures installed in symtables from having ANON names in (caller($x))[3] ?
19:46 gaal I thought I saw some technique to fix it but I don't remember what it was :(
19:49 gaal ah, there's Sub::Name, but that isn't pure Perl
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20:00 b_jonas gaal: wasn't it something like assigning to *ANON?
20:01 b_jonas gaal: your url gives 404 btw
20:07 gaal oops, http://perlcabal.org/~gaal/tmp/Cla​ss-TransparentFactory-0.01.tar.gz
20:07 lambdabot http://tinyurl.com/utkqr
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20:13 gaal b_jonas: anyway, I don't see *ANON anywhere in perldoc?
20:14 b_jonas gaal: I think it's undocumented
20:14 b_jonas or at least I didn't see it documented anywhere
20:14 gaal so, how to use it?
20:15 gaal *{mypkg::myfunc} = sub { *ANON = "myfunc"; ... } ?
20:15 gaal doesn't look right..
20:15 gaal *{"..."} that is
20:17 b_jonas gaal: http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=304883
20:18 lambdabot Title: Named anonymous subs
20:19 gaal b_jonas++ # awesome, thanks!
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20:38 kudra hi
20:41 b_jonas hi
20:42 * kudra is amazed to find one person who isn't idle today.
20:42 kudra Seems like everyone's away.
20:42 kudra On every channel.
20:43 gaal kudra: moose!
20:43 kudra gaal! *hugs*
20:43 gaal I finished the book today
20:43 kudra I'm actually on #moose also.
20:43 gaal I'm actually a moose also.
20:43 Caelum book?
20:44 gaal sorry, off-topic :)
20:44 kudra How did you like it?
20:44 gaal was great! :)
20:44 * stevan grabs a cup of coffee and sits down
20:44 * allbery_b is around but has little to say
20:44 stevan I hope I am not too late for Book group!
20:45 gaal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmerman_telegram, the Tuchman reference
20:45 * kudra is guessing Stevan did not read the assigned book.
20:45 * stevan fumbles for his Cliff Notes
20:45 allbery_b (upgrading one home box, backing up others, whee)
20:45 gaal stevan: the wikipedia article is a nice summary of the caper, but the book is in fact a good read
20:46 stevan gaal: that link is not coming up
20:46 gaal s/,$//
20:46 stevan ah
20:47 kudra short summary: it's a book about the Zimmerman telegram, which was sent by Germany to Mexico via the US and offered to support Mexico if they attacked the US.
20:47 kudra This was prior to US entry in to WWI.  The British decrypted the telegram, and then managed to get it leaked to the Americans
20:48 gaal "The telegram was intercepted and decrypted enough to get the gist of it by codebreakers Nigel de Grey, William Montgomery and Admiral William R. Hall of the British Naval Intelligence unit, Room 40. This was made possible because the code the Foreign Office used (0075) had been partially cryptanalyzed [...]"
20:48 gaal weird, because the book claims it was a code, not a cypher, and the number was different.
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20:48 gaal ah, later they say: "The cable to Washington was in code 7500, a newer, more difficult code"
20:48 kudra Gaal: you read it more recently than I did, so I was probably wrong to call it a crypt.
20:49 gaal hee, the article suffers from endianity :)
20:49 kudra oh, you refer to the article.
20:49 gaal *nod*
20:50 kudra I guess I should return your book soon.  Is there anything else I can loan you?
20:50 stevan so is this non-fiction? or historical fiction?
20:51 kudra non-fiction
20:51 * stevan promises to read the next book ;)
20:51 kudra I was given 5 books for Christmas.
20:51 kudra but I'm not sure you would be interested in reading any of them.
20:52 stevan books++
20:52 gaal kudra: no rush and nothing in particular, thanks :)
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20:52 stevan 101 ways to swoon young isreali programmers ... already read that one ;)
20:53 * kudra likes books too... http://www.domaintje.com/tmp/booksread.html
20:53 kudra stevan: send me your copy
20:53 * gaal is getting into the habit of recommending http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_And_Commander to everyone
20:54 gaal surprisingly excellent writing
20:54 kudra gaal: I don't know enough about your tastes to suggest anything.  Hav eyou read 'Ombolov'?  The book you loaned me for some reason reminded me of that book.
20:54 kudra I must admit, that doesn't look like my kind of a book ('Master and Commander').  But if you loan it to me, I'll read it ;)
20:55 gaal I don't own the copy I used, alas, and I already returned it
20:55 * kudra actually popped on to irc to see if there was anyone in the UK who could pick her up something (not a book).
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21:02 qmole what are you after?
21:02 kudra Oh, just looking for anyone I know from the UK to pick up something and mail it to me.
21:05 kudra Not that important.  I can order it online, I just wanted it sooner so I could give it to someone.
21:06 kudra Anyhow, goodnight
21:06 qmole ok
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