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07:13 luqui what's a good battery monitor applet?
07:13 luqui I can't seem to find one in portage
07:13 luqui oops
07:14 luqui wrong channel
07:14 luqui maybe you guys would know, too ;-)
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07:36 Patterner my gentoo system has no battery to monitor :)
07:37 Patterner Not that anybody cares...
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07:54 Solidcell Hey guys, hows everyone doin?
07:55 * Alias__ will be getting his grant! :)
07:55 Alias__ So my dentist will at least be happy
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10:19 rindolf Hi all.
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10:21 moritz hi rindolf ;)
10:21 rindolf Hi moritz
10:22 rindolf moritz: are you subscribed to [email@hidden.address] ?
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10:35 moritz rindolf: no
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10:35 moritz brb
10:36 rindolf moritz: byeee.
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11:23 moritz re
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11:55 avar wolverian: I asked him to post the incomplete source to his pod6 parser
11:55 wolverian yeah, I see your message, but no reply, yet.
11:55 wolverian oh, wait. sorry. I misread you.
11:55 wolverian I thought damian was being lynched. :)
11:56 avar :)
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11:57 wolverian I think it's a reasonable question.
11:58 avar yeah, but he won't like it:)
11:58 integral .oO( open source )
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13:00 svnbot6 r15786 | fglock++ | v6.pm - string interpolation fixes
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14:30 xerox is parsec used in pugs?
14:31 gaal sure
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14:31 xerox I just discovered GHC does not!
14:31 gaal Pugs.Parser and Pugs.Parser.*
14:31 xerox so having ParsecT and ByteString Parsec would make pugs happy?
14:32 gaal <3 <3 <3
14:32 xerox Interesting.
14:33 gaal though IIRC audreyt looked at it and mentioned something about Parsec being coupled with lists pretty tightly
14:33 xerox gaal yeah, biiig refactoring needed
14:33 xerox so I am not sure I can keep the current interface untouched
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15:58 moritz are there any ghc6.7 debian repositories for etch available?
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16:18 moritz damned, I'm writing german grammer with english words ;-)
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16:32 TimToady moritz: that's perfectly fine English grammar too.
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16:34 moritz TimToady: I thought that the verb had to be somewhere near the beginning of the sentence ;-)
16:34 moritz TimToady: but if a native speaker tells me it's fine then I'm glad ;-)
16:35 diakopter moritz: that sentence's verb is near (in fact, at) the beginning of the sentence.
16:38 gaal moritz: afaik, there are no such repos, but you can use a recent snapshot from here: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/current/dist/
16:38 lambdabot Title: Index of /ghc/dist/current/dist
16:38 gaal untar it, "./configure" and "make in-place"; set your path as it directs you.
16:38 geoffb in-place == replace current install ?
16:39 gaal no, not to be installed in /usr/xxxxx
16:41 moritz gaal: ok, thanks
17:04 moritz moritz@rena:~/downloads/ghc-6.7.20070323>make in-place
17:04 moritz make: *** No rule to make target `in-place'.  Stop.
17:05 moritz gaal: doesn't look so good ;-)
17:05 moritz time to read the docs ;-)
17:05 gaal did you run configure?
17:05 moritz gaal: yes
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17:30 lichtkind Leibsle: hihi
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17:34 [particle] kjs: ping
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18:15 gaal moritz: any luck?
18:17 moritz gaal: no
18:17 moritz gaal: I intercepted the build because I needed my CPU cycles for stitching panoramas ;-)
18:20 gaal build? did you get a source tarball? oh no! :)
18:20 gaal there are generic binary tarballs there.
18:21 gaal fight entropy by using one of those rather than compiling your own ghc
18:22 moritz it's useless to fight entropy, but anyway that sounds like less work ;-)
18:23 gaal why is it useless to fight entropy?
18:23 wolverian fighting entropy is easy if you have a source of antientropy handy. like, say, sun.
18:23 moritz gaal: because you'll loose ;-)
18:23 ajs and today's leading question is....
18:23 * [particle] man fights entropy man -- entropy wins.
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18:25 gaal I don't think the second law of thermodynamics says anything about how much fun we're allowed to have before entropy wins.
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18:25 moritz finitely probably ;-)
18:26 gaal no doubt, but that doesn't mean one shouldn't or couldn't strive to increase one's happiness.
18:26 moritz finite can still be very much ;-)
18:27 gaal A(A(9,9),(A(9,9))
18:27 [particle] pugs -Ofun -Oentropy # "pugs error: options 'fun' and 'entropy' cannot be combined."
18:28 xerox The second law is incomplete!  Die die!
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18:34 gaal let dack x = ackerman x x in flip (!!) (dack 9) (iterate dack 9)
18:34 gaal that number is kinda big
18:34 moritz even ack(4,1) is kinda big ;-)
18:34 gaal bbiab, but before you compute it &
18:34 moritz ... as I remeber from my futile attempts in school to calc it ;-)
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19:23 svnbot6 r15788 | fglock++ | v6.pm - fixed chained method call; t/data_types/hash.t passes 56/59
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19:25 moritz fglock++ cool ;)
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19:30 fglock hmm - smoke-perl5 recompiles pugs :(
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19:34 moritz gaal: I downloaded two different ghc builds, both archives where broken, giving up for today ;(
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19:48 dduncan I have questions or feedback about the Str type, specifically the methods that say how long one is using different measures, like .graphs ...
19:50 dduncan assuming that .graphs and .codes etc reflect the Str as it is now behind the scenes, is it possible to explicitly ask for what the .graphs and .codes etc would be when using particular Unicode normalization forms?
19:51 dduncan Eg, what if I wanted to ask ".graphs when in NFD" or ".graphs when in NFC", without caring what the current form is, which could be either, or none, or several if it isn't normalized?
19:51 dduncan can that be done?
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20:02 fglock_ dduncan: that would be ' $str.nfd.graphs ', by http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/docs/Perl6/Spec/Functions.pod
20:02 dduncan looking ...
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20:04 dduncan thank you; that's what I was looking for
20:04 fglock_ np :)
20:07 fglock_ moritz: same problem here; I get "dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)"
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22:50 * lichtkind submittet the perl6 article (part one) this morning
22:51 moritz lichtkind++
22:51 lichtkind genau darauf war ich aus :)
22:52 lichtkind moritz it es partly revamped and extended to you want it again :)
22:52 moritz of course ;-)
22:52 moritz @karma lichtkind
22:52 lambdabot lichtkind has a karma of 2
22:52 lichtkind moritz: i didnt know that karma is counted
22:53 moritz lichtkind: now you know ;-)
22:53 * moritz visited 3 castles/castle ruins during the last 2 days
22:54 moritz scotland is so full of them, it's like browsing sf.net ;-)
22:54 moritz so many ruins ;-)
22:54 lichtkind haha
22:54 lichtkind send
22:54 lichtkind uhh my project is also on sf
22:55 lichtkind but it is not a ruin
22:55 lichtkind bit lonesome last times but habital
22:55 moritz just look how many projects are in planning phase ;-)
23:01 lichtkind true
23:03 lichtkind moritz: its so quiz here
23:03 lichtkind a quit
23:04 moritz @seen audreyt
23:04 lambdabot audreyt is in #haskell and #perl6. I don't know when audreyt last spoke.
23:05 moritz lichtkind: that explains a lot ;-)
23:05 moritz I was away over the weekend so I don't really know what's going on
23:08 lichtkind non i just font know it so quit
23:08 lichtkind or it is true perl6 is really dead :)
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23:46 lichtkind good nicgt
23:46 lichtkind night
23:46 moritz 'night
23:46 lichtkind ah so you ARE awake, hm the joke was not funny :))
23:47 moritz lichtkind: currently I live in GMT+1 ;)
23:48 lichtkind berlin time ? mee too
23:48 moritz lichtkind: no, GMT+DST
23:49 lichtkind i dont understand
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23:49 moritz lichtkind: if you are in berlin timezone, you are in gmt+1 + 1 for DST
23:51 moritz and I am in GMT (+1 for DST)
23:51 lichtkind wheres the diff?
23:51 moritz lichtkind: 1 Hour ;-)
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