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meppl |
good morning |
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moritz |
moin |
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riffraff |
hi |
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Tene |
riffraff: Hi! |
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jdv79 |
Is there any news of late? I haven't seen any. |
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* offby1 |
glances around nervously. |
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jdv79 |
anyone picked up the summaries yet? |
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kolibrie |
not that I know of |
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thoughtpolice |
from my logs it's been slow for the past day or so |
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thoughtpolice |
i count nine lines of actual text since about this time yesterday. |
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offby1 |
line number ten! |
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thoughtpolice |
well, nine up to this line: 03:48 < jdv79> Is there any news of late? I haven't seen any. |
| 14:55 |
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thoughtpolice |
so you came in at 11. :( |
| 14:57 |
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jdv79 |
is there a root "todo" list anywhere? |
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moritz |
iirc there was one on dev.pugscode.org |
| 14:59 |
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moritz |
but trac is disabled :( |
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moritz |
"implement perl 6" is our root todo list ;) |
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jdv79 |
... |
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thoughtpolice |
short, sweet, to the point. |
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thoughtpolice |
i love it. :) |
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kolibrie |
and then our motto: "optimize for fun" |
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rindolf |
http://use.perl.org/~Shlomi+Fish/journal/33492 - "Specifying Plugins for Helper Objects" - any comments? |
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lambdabot |
Title: Journal of Shlomi Fish (918) |
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ashleyb |
I'm trying to understand the disjunctive and conjunctive types of 'any()' & 'all()', so I'm working through some examples in Perl 5 in http://search.cpan.org/~dconwa[…]Superpositions.pm -- I'm trying the 'True love' example, but I cannot figure it out, is that a typo in damian's example or should it work. Here's what I'm playing with: http://sial.org/pbot/25493 |
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lambdabot |
Title: Quantum::Superpositions - QM-like superpositions in Perl - search.cpan.org, http://tinyurl.com/6xa3d |
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ashleyb |
no matter what I try to put in the if() statement there to match '$ideal' it won't match |
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ashleyb |
any suggestions? |
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ashleyb |
is there a way to match a superposition of the form 'all(any(@a), any(@b))' |
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ashleyb |
ehh excuse me, I meant 'any(all(@a), all(@b))' |
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rindolf |
ashleyb: if you have != then yes. |
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ashleyb |
hmm |
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ashleyb |
but from what I can see, they will always be not equal, as in 'any(all(1,2), all(3,4)) != all(@x)' is always true |
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ashleyb |
for all values of @x |
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ashleyb |
and even any values of @x |
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ashleyb |
same goes for: 'any(all(1,2), all(3,4)) != any(@x)' |
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rindolf |
ashleyb: or < or whatever. |
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rindolf |
ashleyb: or myfunc(any(all,all)) == something. |
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rindolf |
Assuming Damian's Q-S module go as far. |
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ashleyb |
yeah, so am I right in thinking damian's example is misleading? |
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ashleyb |
basically this is always true: all(@x) != all(@y) # even when @x := @y |
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ashleyb |
hmm |
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ashleyb |
maybe that's not true |
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ashleyb |
if @x only has one value |
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ashleyb |
and or if: @x := @y = (any(@set), any(@set)); |
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ashleyb |
but assuming the values of @x are not junctive types |
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ashleyb |
and that @x has more than one value, that 'all(@x) != all(@x)' |
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ashleyb |
qed: I conclude Damian's example is wrong. |
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gaal |
anyone know how to get svnbot to start with reporting old commits? |
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moritz |
no, just don't do that ;) |
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[particle] |
gaal: trolling for karma? |
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gaal |
heh. for continuity and transparency |
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gaal |
we'd lost about a week's worth of announcements |
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moritz |
just re-enable trac |
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moritz |
then anybody can see them online |
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gaal |
irc isn't online enough for you? :) |
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moritz |
;) |
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[particle] |
is the svn log available online? |
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gaal |
modulo trac :/ |
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moritz |
not as long as trac is disable |
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[particle] |
how about svnweb, does that give a log? |
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[particle] |
too bad if it doesn't |
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avar |
svn::www ftw |
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rindolf |
Hi gaal |
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rindolf |
Hi avar |
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rindolf |
avar: does SVN::WWW give you URL translation - right-clickable URLs of the actual repository. |
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rindolf |
a? |
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rindolf |
avar: that's one killer feature of SVN::RaWeb::Light (my own module) that I didn't see implemented anywhere. |
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avar |
I don't remember, but I'm sure it's trivial to add |
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Aankhen`` |
Henceforth, I shall refer to ?? !! as "nod-nod shake-shake". |
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thoughtpolice |
@remember Aankhen`` Henceforth, I shall refer to ?? !! as "nod-nod shake-shake". |
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lambdabot |
Done. |
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thoughtpolice |
:) |
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Aankhen`` |
^_^ |
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riffraff |
hi |
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offby1 |
so they say. |
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ron__ |
?say "running" |
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lambdabot |
Maybe you meant: faq map slap src |
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?eval say "running" |
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evalbot_r16653 |
OUTPUT[running] Bool::True |
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ron__ |
?eval say "running" |
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evalbot_r16653 |
OUTPUT[running] Bool::True |
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ron__ |
?eval class Bozzle {has $.a = 2; has $!a = 4;} my $c = Bozzle.new; say $c.a; |
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Tene |
?eval say "running" |
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evalbot_r16653 |
OUTPUT[4] Bool::True |
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evalbot_r16653 |
OUTPUT[running] Bool::True |
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ron__ |
anyone see the problem with the Bozzle class line I just posted ? |
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Tene |
You're trying to have a public and private variable with the same name. |
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ron__ |
It originally came from redefining a class. I could understand an error but returning the assignment to the private var seems surprising to me. |
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[particle] |
yes, that seems like it should emit a warning, or throw an exception |
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[particle] |
(probably the latter, although the former is an exception, too) |
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ron__ |
I have a few other similar examples. If there is no objection I will probably post on perl6-compiler. |
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[particle] |
please do. feel free to write failing tests, check them in, and post. |
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meppl |
good night |
