Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2007-07-22

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00:11 diotalevi So is forward chaining in a logic program sort of the same thing as propagators adding new information in a constraint solving program?
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01:21 avar kp6 broke: syntax error at lib5/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 307, near ")
01:21 avar $::Class->new('Str')
01:21 avar my $meta_Str = $::Str->{_dispatch}( $::Str, 'HOW' );
01:21 avar that's line 30[67]
01:21 avar needs ; on 306
01:26 avar also, prove5.9.5 --perl ./run_kp6_perl5.pl -Ilib5 -r t could be used (pretty much) instead of run_tests.pl
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03:47 pugs_svnbot r17116 | Darren_Duncan++ | ext/Muldis-DB/ : updated Grammar.pod concerning the Int|Blob base specifier
03:47 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17116
04:03 diotalevi In languages with continuations, is it common to package a continuation with an exception to make a "work unit" re-doable? Consider the case of soft-failure in the face of network connections.
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06:41 pugs_svnbot r17117 | pmurias++ | kp6: fixed error reported by avar++
06:41 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17117
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07:24 pugs_svnbot r17118 | pmurias++ | kp6: cleaned up Class.new()
07:24 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17118
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07:44 meppl good morning
07:45 thoughtpolice morning :)
07:53 meppl good morning thoughtpolice
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08:15 pmurias good morning
08:22 meppl good morning pmurias
08:26 pugs_svnbot r17119 | pmurias++ | kp6:
08:26 pugs_svnbot r17119 | pmurias++ | metaclasses return the metaobject instead of installing & returning the prototype object
08:26 pugs_svnbot r17119 | pmurias++ | + a simple oo test
08:26 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17119
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10:50 frankg was wondering if perl6 would allow you to use yaml to create complex data structures?
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11:06 lvh hi
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11:09 pmurias lvh: hi
11:09 pmurias windsurfing&
11:10 lvh no
11:10 lvh wifi surfing
11:10 rindolf Hi lvh
11:10 lvh i love airports
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14:30 agentzh Hi, i see a lot of warnings while compiling pugs on feather:
14:30 agentzh "warning: "PACKAGE_VERSION" redefined"
14:30 agentzh "In file included from /usr/lib/ghc-6.6.1/include/HsUnix.h:12,"
14:33 szbalint same here
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16:10 thoughtpolice @ask [particle] do you know if parrot builds on solaris 10?
16:10 lambdabot Consider it noted.
16:11 [particle1 thoughtpolice: yes
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16:12 thoughtpolice [particle]: cool.
16:12 thoughtpolice i have a box sitting around and i've been bored the past few days so I figure i'll do something with it.
16:12 [particle] it runs sun lint there, too (make sunlint or make lint iirc)
16:12 lambdabot [particle]: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
16:12 thoughtpolice [particle]: it has no internet but i could just pull the smoke.html and send it from say this box right?
16:13 [particle] thoughtpolice++ # you can usually find andy on irc.perl.org#parrot  to help if you need
16:13 [particle] yep
16:13 thoughtpolice [particle]: what's the util in the source tree for that
16:13 thoughtpolice tools/util/smokeserv-client.pl ?
16:13 [particle] tools/utils/smokeserv-client.pl iirc
16:14 [particle] you can verify by examining the 'smoke' target in the makefile
16:14 thoughtpolice yeah. i'll find a usb stick lying around (hell, i could use my psp :>) and get the source there and the smoke's back
16:15 [particle] hurrah for sneakernet!
16:15 thoughtpolice i can't test svn though, only releases (no internet,) if I get connections for it soon it'll be a small fileserver but i could smoke the latest repo :)
16:16 thoughtpolice i'll try to do that sometime now that i think of it. :)
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17:37 TimToady @tell pmurias I'd just use something within the current syntax like "class Foo is HOW(Bar)"
17:37 lambdabot Consider it noted.
17:39 TimToady @tell pmurias though for any extensive use of a new metaclass I'd just replace "class" with a different keyword.  You can view the "role" declaration that way, for instance.
17:39 lambdabot Consider it noted.
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17:42 TimToady @tell pmurias though now that I think on it, it's probably "is HOW(new Bar)" since .HOW is pointing to an instance of the metaclass.
17:42 lambdabot Consider it noted.
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18:42 riffraff hi
18:42 rindolf Hi riffraff
18:43 riffraff so pugs now compiles only with ghc 6.6.1 ?
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18:46 thoughtpolice riffraff: it shouldn't, it compiled on ghc 6.6 for a while on this box
18:47 thoughtpolice although i haven't built it recently on linux
18:48 riffraff I have ghc 6.6 on ubuntu and it complaing it is not 6.6.1 :)
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18:48 riffraff I was just wondering why this, for me it's ok to find a new ghc or not to build pugs :)
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18:54 _moritz_ re
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19:09 pmurias _moritz_: hi
19:09 _moritz_ hi pmurias ;)
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19:13 _moritz_ I'm back after an offline weekend ;)
19:13 masak _moritz_: wb
19:14 _moritz_ but starting from tomorrow I have $work to do, so nearly no time for hacking ;(
19:15 spinclad riffraff: audreyt recently upgraded the requirement to 6.6.1
19:17 * pmurias will be away on camp for the next 12 days
19:18 spinclad on debian etch we've either upgraded to testing's ghc or backported; the backport may get submitted to backports.org...
19:19 _moritz_ though you can't install ghc's binaries from lenny without upgrading, because it wants a new glibc or something
19:22 pmurias i'll only do c++ for that period :(
19:22 spinclad upgrading glibc at least, right.  i've done that and not seen any instability, though my usage pattern is limited.
19:22 Patterner to 2.6?
19:22 _moritz_ I was too scared, I admit ;)
19:23 Patterner 2.6 works for me
19:23 spinclad and glibc brought in incompatible kernel headers, which worries me some.
19:25 spinclad (expect i should worry more, if i built my own kernels as i should)
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19:29 spinclad yes, to 2.6-2
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19:30 Patterner 0.6?
19:31 spinclad ?
19:31 Patterner 2.6-2 = 0.6
19:31 spinclad ?eval 2.6-2
19:32 evalbot_r17041 3/5
19:32 _moritz_ ?eval '2.6-2' eq '0.6'
19:32 evalbot_r17041 Bool::False
19:33 spinclad ?eval '2.6-2' eq '3.0-0.4'
19:33 evalbot_r17041 Bool::False
19:33 spinclad sorry, 3/5 is as close as i can get
20:27 jisom ?eval '2.6-2' eq eval '3/5'
20:28 evalbot_r17041 Bool::False
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21:02 * diakopter is at pdx. riding some train.
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22:06 meppl good night
22:17 masak 'night
22:18 masak & # sleep
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22:59 cognominal_ I can't grasp the difference between a mutable type and an imutable one (2 differents categories of types defined in S02)
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23:17 Gothmog_ It's just what the name suggests: it's mutable or not.
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23:51 TimToady cognominal_: immutable types are just values, like numbers.  You can't assign to them.
23:51 TimToady mutable types are like variables or containers that can change their value
23:52 TimToady So you can have a value like a set--in set theory every possible collection is a different set
23:52 TimToady if you have a set variable, it changes which set it holds every time you modify it.
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