Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2007-08-17

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00:00 ingy YAML defaults to a two space indent
00:00 ingy at least YAML.pm (and all the other Perl yaml modules)
00:01 ingy lysdexsik: I'll be back later...
00:04 lysdexsik ingy, ok
00:04 lysdexsik ingy, see you later
00:05 lysdexsik ingy, > but it will always write in only one way < no, it will change everytime
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01:41 bsb ingy, won't you need libyaml Haskell bindings? like ./third-party/HsSyck/Data/Yaml/Syck.hs
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04:37 pugs_svnbot r17265 | lwall++ | proper handling of backtracking versions of star and plus
04:37 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17265
04:37 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17265 - Pugs - Trac
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05:44 agentzh lwall++
06:25 pugs_svnbot r17266 | lwall++ | first whack at alternatives (doesn't handle embedded sequence yet)
06:25 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17266
06:25 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17266 - Pugs - Trac
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14:41 sdffdssdf http://erxz.com/pb/4080
14:41 lambdabot Title: freenode_web paste from "Auto pastebin mover" at 71.6.194.243...
14:41 sdffdssdf how do we do it :(
14:43 diakopter sdffdssdf: this is the perl6 channel
14:45 masak sdffdssdf: also, swearing might seem an appropriate way to blow off steam at the moment, but it can be a definite turn-off for a reader trying to help you
14:45 masak (it was to me)
14:46 masak sdffdssdf: I think you need to read "perldoc -f open"
14:48 sdffdssdf I did
14:48 sdffdssdf Here what i tried
14:50 Tene sdffdssdf: We can show you the Perl 6 way to do things, if you'd like, but for Perl 5 you're better off asking in #perl
14:50 sdffdssdf http://erxz.com/pb/4081
14:50 lambdabot Title: freenode_web paste from Someone at 71.6.194.243...
14:50 sdffdssdf Tene, sorry they seem too busy
14:50 masak yes. I don't know a solution offhand. all I know is I also had trouble using '>' and '>>' inside &system calls
14:51 masak sdffdssdf: that doesn't change the fact that this is the wrong channel
14:51 sdffdssdf okay tc
14:52 masak good luck. hope you find someone on #perl
14:52 masak who can help you
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15:02 rindolf sdffdssdf: I can help you on #perl
15:03 sdffdssdf Well I figured it out the easy way
15:03 sdffdssdf buffer my command with 2>> to log file without fancy perl
15:04 masak yes, why not? :)
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15:25 pugs_svnbot r17267 | lwall++ | [STD] add missing :$foo colonpair form
15:25 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17267
15:25 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17267 - Pugs - Trac
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15:37 [particle] TimToady: the unspace in colonpair with value is no longer optional?
15:38 [particle] | <ident> [ <?unsp> <postcircumfix> ]? 
15:38 [particle] i mean, no longer optional before postcircumfix
15:39 [particle] ah, i see why.
15:40 [particle] looks good now.
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15:47 TimToady actually, it should still be optional
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15:48 TimToady the * in unsp doesn't apply to \\, which would be mandatory if there's a postcircumfix
15:48 TimToady will fix, thanks
15:49 pugs_svnbot r17268 | lwall++ | missing ? on <?unsp> in colonpair
15:49 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17268
15:49 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17268 - Pugs - Trac
15:50 [particle] okay, i thought it fell out of the transformation with <ident> no longer being optional
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15:55 TimToady you thought you were wrong, but you were wrong :)
15:55 [particle] if only two wrongs made a right :(
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16:07 [particle] anyone recognize perlbot?
16:07 [particle] oh, sorry, wrong channel
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17:02 pugs_svnbot r17269 | lwall++ | Current instantaneous position now represented by $?\194?\176
17:02 pugs_svnbot r17269 | lwall++ | Removed some numerical assumptions about positions
17:02 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17269
17:02 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17269 - Pugs - Trac
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17:06 TimToady someone should teach svnbot about unicode...
17:10 Tene What's the source of unicode stupidity in svnbot, and should/will that still be a problem in future Perl 6?
17:11 TimToady ENOKLOO
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19:11 masak I got curious about that unicode thing in svnbot
19:11 masak maybe ingy (Net::IRC's author) would know more about where the problem lies
19:12 masak I looked at the code, and found no obvious place where encoding would be an issue
19:12 masak from what I can see, svnbot just sends along what it gets
19:13 kjwcode masak: Did svnbot hiccup on the change log for r17269?
19:14 masak kjwcode: yes, see http://moritz.faui2k3.org/i​rclog/out.pl?channel=perl6
19:14 lambdabot Title: IRC log for #perl6, 2007-08-17
19:14 masak 17:02
19:15 masak ah, http://moritz.faui2k3.org/irclo​g/out.pl?channel=perl6#i_83951
19:15 lambdabot Title: IRC log for #perl6, 2007-08-17
19:16 kjwcode Thanks for the pointer.  It made me do a double-take when I was reviewing the logs, too.
19:16 masak kjwcode: we should find out what happened! the future of perl 6 is at stake!
19:16 masak :)
19:16 * kjwcode laughs.
19:17 masak no, really. it is. if we fix this, the world will have no encoding problems, ever.
19:17 kjwcode It's true, I do need to find something to do while every evil X11 dependency of GHC builds from the FreeBSD ports tree.
19:19 masak and I should probably sleep now, but this sounds like fun
19:19 masak problem is, it seems a bit hard to test
19:19 masak sure, we could feed things through commit logs until we locate the error
19:20 masak but what I really would like is a testing ground that was sure to reproduce the error, but without the svn logs/IRC dependency
19:20 masak maybe that's too much to ask
19:20 kjwcode Shouldn't be hard to set up another svnbot on another channel.  Of course, I haven't actually *looked* at it.  :)
19:20 masak kjwcode: do you have feather access?
19:20 kjwcode masak: I do, at least in theory -- I haven't used it yet.
19:20 kjwcode I'm a little new.
19:21 masak good. now, use it.
19:21 masak we need to set up svnbot in a new channel where we don't disturb anyone
19:21 kjwcode I'll have to see what kind of time I have on the weekend -- $work is calling for my attention right now, unfortunately.
19:22 masak ok
19:22 masak then I might actually get that piece of sleep after all
19:22 kjwcode Probably not a bad idea.  :)
19:22 masak but maybe in the weekend, then
19:22 masak no, probably not :)
19:23 masak & # zzz
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19:42 pugs_svnbot r17270 | lwall++ | current match "continuation" is now $?\194?\162
19:42 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17270
19:42 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17270 - Pugs - Trac
19:45 pugs_svnbot r17271 | lwall++ | [Parser.hs] Allow for $?\194?\162 as a valid parameter variable
19:45 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17271
19:45 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17271 - Pugs - Trac
19:46 [particle] (latin-1)--
19:55 TimToady yes, I much prefer Unicode
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22:53 pugs_svnbot r17272 | lwall++ | [metholate] recast to pass match "continuations" rather than matches
22:53 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17272
22:53 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17272 - Pugs - Trac
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23:57 DarkWolf84 ?eval my $a=Inf
23:57 pugsbot_r17185 \Inf
23:58 Tene ?eval 1..*
23:58 pugsbot_r17185 pugs: out of memory (requested 1048576 bytes)
23:58 avar pugs isn't lazy enough:)

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