Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2007-08-29

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02:04 sunnavy http://perlcabal.org is down?
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02:33 nothingmuch plz to feedback: http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/object​_meta_programming/slides/Spork.slides
02:33 lambdabot http://tinyurl.com/3dx7my
02:33 nothingmuch kthx
02:36 lumi nothingmuch: What's "macros" vs "real macros"?
02:37 nothingmuch c vs. lisp
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02:41 nothingmuch http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/object_m​eta_programming/slides/slides/start.html
02:41 nothingmuch slow load
02:42 lambdabot Title: meta meta meta meta, http://tinyurl.com/25krm2
02:43 nothingmuch zzz &
02:43 nothingmuch email welcome
02:43 lumi I ♥ the blue sugar cubes
02:44 nothingmuch =D
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06:17 bloonix good mornings
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06:29 meppl good morning
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07:56 sunnavy http://perlcabal.org/ seems ok now :-)
07:56 lambdabot Title: Perl6 Community Development Server
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08:33 Juerd Does anyone know what was wrong with feather?
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09:03 clkao nothingmuch: come to breakfast!!
09:06 masak :)
09:06 masak IRC is used for so many things
09:10 wolverian heh
09:10 pugs_svnbot r17482 | sunnavy++ | added some block comments tests
09:10 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17482
09:10 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17482 - Pugs - Trac
09:10 wolverian oh, wow, we have ops?
09:12 sunnavy it seems block comments are not implemented, should I mark the corresponding tests as todo?
09:15 ruoso TimToady_, in a onliner like "my $a = 1", is "module Main" implied?
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09:31 masak ruoso: why should it differ from a non-one-liner?
09:31 ruoso masak, it doesn't
09:31 ruoso that's just an example
09:32 masak so your actual question is which namespace is implied at the start of a program?
09:34 ruoso yep
09:34 ruoso better put that way
09:34 ruoso :)
09:34 masak looks like a job for the synopses to answer
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09:35 masak I seem to remember that is so, but I'm unsure about the actual name of "Main"
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09:49 pugs_svnbot r17483 | fglock++ | [kp6] initial impl of Junction, basic tests
09:49 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17483
09:49 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17483 - Pugs - Trac
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10:15 TimToady sunnavy: block comments are removed from S02 as of today
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10:17 sunnavy TimToady: they are not spec any more?
10:17 TimToady as of about 2 minutes ago
10:17 TimToady (though I actually removed it in my copy last night)
10:17 sunnavy gotta, I'll remove the tests I just added :-)
10:19 TimToady ruoso: arguably it starts in GLOBAL until it sees a module declaration, by S12:85
10:20 pugs_svnbot r17484 | sunnavy++ | remove block comments tests because they are not in spec any more
10:20 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17484
10:20 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17484 - Pugs - Trac
10:20 TimToady but according to S10 it switches to Main as soon as it decides you have Perl 6 code, presumably on the "use v6"
10:26 pugs_svnbot r17485 | lwall++ | [STD] filename housekeeping
10:26 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17485
10:26 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17485 - Pugs - Trac
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10:29 pugs_svnbot r17486 | lwall++ | Moving toward cursor semantics with single status in "self"
10:29 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17486
10:29 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17486 - Pugs - Trac
10:31 sunnavy TimToady: in S02, `Therefore U+298D maps to U+298E, not U+2990, and U+298E itself is not a valid bracket opener.' or maybe it's *U+2990* which is not a valid bracket opener?
10:41 pugs_svnbot r17487 | ruoso++ | couple hash tests
10:41 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17487
10:41 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17487 - Pugs - Trac
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11:01 TimToady sunnavy: clarified, thanks
11:03 sunnavy :-)
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12:09 pugs_svnbot r17488 | sunnavy++ | more quoting tests for bracketing characters with Ps/Pe properties
12:09 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17488
12:09 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17488 - Pugs - Trac
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13:19 pugs_svnbot r17489 | fglock++ | [kp6] passes Junction tests!
13:20 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17489
13:20 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17489 - Pugs - Trac
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13:24 pugs_svnbot r17490 | fglock++ | [kp6] when do we call junction methods vs. methods on a junction? (see test output)
13:24 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17490
13:24 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17490 - Pugs - Trac
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13:43 moritz_ uhm... still there, I misread an 'U' for a 'D' ;)
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14:13 pugs_svnbot r17491 | ruoso++ | starting to work on tests for kp6 grammar bootstrap;
14:13 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17491
14:13 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17491 - Pugs - Trac
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14:17 sunnavy TimToady: s02 still need a few changes for the absence of block comments, in this paragraph:
14:17 sunnavy Except when quoted, a # character always introduces a comment in Perl 6. There are three forms of comment based on #. Embedded comments and block comments require the # to be followed by one or more opening bracketing characters.
14:18 sunnavy we now have **two** forms of comment left. :-)
14:19 [particle] i wonder... could you comment out a sub by #sub foo \n \{ ... } ??
14:19 [particle] combination of line comment and what's that called... unspace?
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14:26 moritz_ why not just use ^=begin comment ... ^=end comment ?
14:26 moritz_ I know timtowtdi, but you don't have to allow _every_ way ;)
14:26 [particle] sure, that's using the proper semantics. but i'm a *hacker* :)
14:26 [particle] the guy who unlocked the iphone is from my home town :)
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14:30 moritz_ ;)
14:31 moritz_ did anybody read http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=635140 ? any comments?
14:31 lambdabot Title: [Perl 6] State variables as public attributes?
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14:43 ruoso fglock, I added the failing token test to the svn...
14:43 pugs_svnbot r17492 | ruoso++ | a failing test of tokens
14:43 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17492
14:43 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17492 - Pugs - Trac
14:44 moritz_ ruoso: could you please include a [kp6] in commit messages concerning kp6?
14:44 moritz_ it makes it easier to track where the changes occured
14:44 ruoso moritz_, hmmm sure
14:44 moritz_ thanks
14:52 sunnavy moritz, I think the thing in http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=635140 is cool.
14:52 lambdabot Title: [Perl 6] State variables as public attributes?
14:55 moritz_ I don't quite get the point... he says he wants syntactic sugar for some kind of degenerated OO, right?
14:56 ruoso sunnavy, isn't that what closures are?
14:56 moritz_ he even offers a closure example to do the same thing, doesn't he?
14:57 fglock ruoso: ok
15:02 sunnavy ruoso, I think so.
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15:19 pugs_svnbot r17493 | fglock++ | [kp6] re-add Prelude.pm; implemented all() junction composer
15:19 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17493
15:19 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17493 - Pugs - Trac
15:23 ruoso fglock, how does the mechanism for perl6 + perl5 classes work?
15:23 ruoso I'm trying to raise Match to Perl 6
15:24 ruoso at least as a proxy to the Perl 5 class
15:24 pugs_svnbot r17494 | fglock++ | [kp6] more junction sugar
15:24 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17494
15:25 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17494 - Pugs - Trac
15:25 [particle] ruoso (from #parrot): there's no way to get past from a file... yet. i'm going to fix that.
15:25 ruoso [particle], I was talking to fglock... the plan seems to continue trying to target PIR instead
15:26 [particle] oh?
15:26 ruoso from kp6, i mean
15:26 ruoso compile kp6 to pir
15:26 ruoso but I still doubtfull about doing that way
15:26 [particle] yes, i understand.
15:26 ruoso going through the PAST would seems more natural to me
15:27 [particle] i agree.
15:27 [particle] is there a history of the discussion i can read, or is fglock available for comment?
15:27 ruoso so my first Idea was to output a PAST-language file
15:27 ruoso kinda
15:27 ruoso heh
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15:27 ruoso he seems to be busy getting the dinner tickets
15:28 [particle] yapc::eu i presume
15:29 ruoso yep ;)
15:29 fglock [particle]: i was talking to Jonathan, he said it would make sense to target pir
15:30 [particle] looks like i missed the parrot hackathon :(
15:30 fglock i got the dinner tickets :)
15:30 ruoso [particle], not yet...
15:30 fglock [particle]: there will be the kp6 hackathon tomorrow
15:30 ruoso [particle], it will be tomorrow
15:30 ruoso ah...
15:30 ruoso the parrot
15:30 ruoso ye
15:30 ruoso but we subverted the parrot hackaton
15:30 ruoso ;)
15:31 [particle] ah. is there a channel for me to join? in the usa, we've been using irc.perl.org#hackathon
15:31 ruoso we keep in the same channels
15:31 ruoso so people outside can participate also
15:31 [particle] you mean #perl6?
15:31 ruoso for the kp6 discussoins
15:32 ruoso yep
15:32 [particle] ok
15:32 ruoso and allison said they would be on #parrot
15:32 [particle] nobody from yesterday's hackathon was on #parrot :(
15:33 ruoso anyway, fglock, could you please get here so I can show you what I'm trying to do and maybe you give me some help?
15:33 ruoso I'm in the tables near the registration, on the bridge
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15:46 pugs_svnbot r17495 | ruoso++ | [kp6] Bringing ::Match to Perl 6... now t/kp6/42 fails instead of breaking...
15:46 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17495
15:46 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17495 - Pugs - Trac
15:56 pugs_svnbot r17496 | fglock++ | [kp6] Junction.true
15:56 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17496
15:57 lambdabot Title: Changeset 17496 - Pugs - Trac
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