Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2007-09-30

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11:50 pmurias Aankhen``: it's a mp6 question
11:52 pmurias i see you solved it by yourself
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14:14 Aankhen`` pmurias: I did? Not that I can see. :-S
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14:22 pmurias Aankhen``: you use join
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14:27 pmurias Aankhen``: or do you need to something to every element
14:27 pmurias ?
14:27 pmurias like .map
14:50 Aankhen`` pmurias: I tried using join, but as I said, that gives me all sorts of errors.
14:51 Aankhen`` It's also weird because I have $GLOBAL::x in the Perl 6 code, which has the same namespace as &say (thanks to Visitor::Global), but only $GLOBAL::x shows that behaviour and not &say.
14:51 Aankhen`` The join for &say works just fine.
14:52 Aankhen`` AFAICT, the AST is the same (after Visitor::Global) for both of them, leaving aside the different variable name & sigil.
14:54 pmurias '"' ~ $.namespace.join('::') ~ '"'; seems to work fine
14:54 pmurias line 254 for say $Foo::Bar::x;
14:56 pmurias could you give a code example which gives the error
14:57 pmurias ?
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14:58 pmurias i use --do Global,EmitLisp
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15:09 pinskian is that for real
15:09 pinskian the real larry?
15:10 pmurias pinskian: what's the context?
15:11 pinskian what context
15:11 pinskian larry wall
15:11 pinskian the TimToady guy
15:11 pmurias TimToady is Larry Wall
15:11 pinskian wow
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15:18 Kattana He speaks too, and if youre lucky he will gaze upon your nick.
15:19 allbery_b fwiw TimToady is a variation on TIMTOWTDI
15:20 pinskian so the resident perl geek merlyn has been moved to the 2nd place
15:21 pinskian heh
15:22 pmurias pinskian: in terms of frequency of apperance surly
15:40 * pinskian hates openssl
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15:41 pinskian is there no chanenl for it
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15:47 allbery_b doesn't look like it
15:48 pinskian allbery_b: want to help me with some bignum stuff?
15:48 allbery_b I'm unlikely to be able to help, but you can certainly ask
15:49 * allbery_b helped someone else some time back but it was more trying to decipher the documentation (such as it is)
15:50 pinskian there's a BN_bntompi() function supposed to do the conversion (bignum -> mpi)
15:50 pinskian but it expects a buffer, so there must be a way to know the size of that buffer either by a max constant or by arithmetics based on bignum size
15:53 pinskian crazy huh
15:53 * allbery_b has no clue...
15:54 pinskian btw dsa is limited to 1024 bits ?
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17:40 pinskian done
17:40 pinskian :D
17:40 pinskian mapped OpenSSL's RSA structure to something useable by nbpg
17:43 Aankh|Clone pmurias: Actually… it *is* working now. O_O
17:43 Aankh|Clone pmurias: Not that I'm complaining!
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18:14 pmurias Aankh|Clone: good :)
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20:33 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | [kp6-lisp]
20:33 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * removed KP6-{DEFINE,GET,SET}-PACKAGE-VARIABLE generic functions.
20:33 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * added SET-PACKAGE-VARIABLE, SET-PACKAGE-VARIABLE/C, LOOKUP-PACKAGE-VARIABLE and LOOKUP-PACKAGE-VARIABLE/C as stub functions.
20:33 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * fixed storage of global functions.
20:33 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * added KP6-PACKAGE-VARIABLE-NOT-FOUND warning condition.
20:33 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * updated KP6-APPLY-FUNCTION to deal with KP6-CELL objects.
20:34 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * removed ENCLOSING-PACKAGE and OUTER-PACKAGE functions.
20:34 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * factored some EmitLisp functionality into Var::emit_lisp_{assignment,lookup} methods.
20:34 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * binding now works with all variables.
20:34 pugs_svnbot r18247 | Aankhen++ | * regenerated EmitLisp.pm
20:34 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/18247
20:34 lambdabot Title: Changeset 18247 - Pugs - Trac
20:46 pugs_svnbot r18248 | Aankhen++ | [kp6-lisp]
20:46 pugs_svnbot r18248 | Aankhen++ | * better handling of unimplemented features in EmitLisp.pm
20:46 pugs_svnbot r18248 | Aankhen++ | * added generic methods for KP6-EXISTS, KP6-DELETE, KP6-CLEAR, KP6-PAIRS and KP6-ELEMS.
20:46 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/18248
20:46 lambdabot Title: Changeset 18248 - Pugs - Trac
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21:12 pugs_svnbot r18249 | Aankhen++ | [kp6-lisp]
21:12 pugs_svnbot r18249 | Aankhen++ | * removed duplicated code in ::Assign
21:12 pugs_svnbot r18249 | Aankhen++ | * fixed assignment to hashes and arrays.
21:12 pugs_svnbot r18249 | Aankhen++ | * fixed typo in ::Bind
21:12 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/18249
21:12 lambdabot Title: Changeset 18249 - Pugs - Trac
21:14 fglock Aankhen``: I'm considering removing ::Assign, ::Bind, and ::Apply nodes, since these are really just method calls
21:15 fglock does it makes sense for Lisp?
21:18 Aankhen`` What sort of method calls are they?
21:19 Aankhen`` (Sorry, I don't quite grasp the implications, as you can tell. :-)
21:20 fglock &mysub.APPLY( $capture );
21:20 fglock VAR($v1).ASSIGN( $v2 )
21:21 Aankhen`` I'm not really sure.
21:21 Aankhen`` But you should do it based on what makes sense in the big picture.  I don't know much about writing emitters, I'm just learning as I go along.
21:22 fglock ok (just planning for now)
21:25 pugs_svnbot r18250 | Aankhen++ | * [kp6-lisp] reworked ::If.
21:25 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/18250
21:25 lambdabot Title: Changeset 18250 - Pugs - Trac
21:31 Aankhen`` Hmm.
21:32 Aankhen`` We've got binding, lexicals and, uh, yeah.
21:32 Aankhen`` Is there anything we're missing for subs?
21:32 Aankhen`` (I consider the topic of signatures to be part of implementing them, in case there's any confusion. :-)
21:34 fglock the code for signatures is still incomplete in kp6
21:34 Aankhen`` I just want to get it up to par with the Perl 5 emitter.
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22:40 pugs_svnbot r18251 | avar++ | Add a trailing newline to --lisp output
22:40 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/18251
22:40 lambdabot Title: Changeset 18251 - Pugs - Trac
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