Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2007-10-14

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09:15 moritz_ good localtime() lambdacamels and -moose
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10:14 meppl good morning
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10:16 xdemondogx can yuo make with perl6 games which yuo couldnt with perl5?
10:16 xdemondogx small 2d games or so
10:17 moritz_ perl5 and perl6 are both turing complete, so you can write programs that do exaclty the same thing in both languages
10:17 moritz_ same as (nearly) all other programming languages
10:17 xdemondogx so yuo can make small games
10:18 meppl so, in perl5 theres no good data-sharing with threads
10:19 moritz_ xdemondogx: of course
10:19 xdemondogx :o
10:19 xdemondogx and 3d games :P
10:19 moritz_ meppl: ah yes. P6 threads will certainly be better, but they're not fully specced yet
10:20 moritz_ I think there was an example recently that showed how to use SDL with kp6
10:20 meppl furthermore the object oriented programming is a little bit circumstantially to write in perl5
10:21 moritz_ http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs//v6/v6​-KindaPerl6/examples/sdl/simple.pl
10:21 lambdabot http://tinyurl.com/28q5og
10:24 xdemondogx wtf?
10:24 xdemondogx i jsut found out CrystalSpace supprots Perl5 O.o
10:28 moritz_ why not?
10:32 xdemondogx it hough you couldnt make games with Perl lol
10:34 moritz_ for example "frozen bubbles" is written in Perl
10:34 xdemondogx frozen bubbles?
10:35 moritz_ http://www.frozen-bubble.org/
10:35 lambdabot Title: Frozen Bubble - the official home
10:36 xdemondogx tetris lol
10:37 moritz_ no, not tetris
10:37 xdemondogx owh ti looked like it
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11:45 tunnuz hi
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16:05 * masak was happy to see ++$x for ^*; work in pugs
16:06 masak wonder if it'll be a common pattern for infinite loops :)
16:06 masak also, what happens if I feed that to an evalbot?
16:06 masak it's not very memory-intensive. is there a timeout?
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17:18 moritz_ masak: yes, both evalbots have memory and time constraints
17:19 moritz_ kp6: my $i; while 1 { $i++ }
17:19 exp_evalbot r18419: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 15, line 1 column 15:␤my $i; while 1 { $i++ ␤               ^ HERE␤DISPATCH: calling APPLY KindaPerl6::Runtime::Perl5::Dispat​chSugar::Dispatch=HASH(0x8434d10) on invalid object:$VAR1 = {};␤␤ at compiled/perl5/lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 33␤
17:19 exp_evalbot ..main::DISPATCH('undef', 'APPLY', 'KindaPerl6::Runtime::Perl5::Dispat...]
17:19 moritz_ kp6: my $i; while 1 { $i = $i + 1; }
17:20 exp_evalbot r18419: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT)
17:26 masak moritz_: good to hear
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17:36 moritz_ masak: aditionally it runs in a chroot (at least exp_evalbot ;)
17:40 masak moritz_: sounds sane
17:42 Aankhen`` Infinite loops are better written as `loop { ... }`, IIRC.
17:42 moritz_ kp6: loop { 1; }
17:42 exp_evalbot r18419: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 5, line 1 column 5:␤loop { 1; ␤     ^ HERE␤DISPATCH: calling APPLY on invalid object:$VAR1 = {};␤␤ at compiled/perl5/lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 33␤ main::DISPATCH('undef', 'APPLY') called at - line 16␤]
17:43 masak Aankhen``: yes, but this was a way to write an infinite loop as a statement modifier
17:43 masak see discussion from a few days ago
17:58 Aankhen`` Ah.
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22:22 pugs_svnbot r18420 | putter++ | misc/kp6-repl.pl - An draft p5 repl for kp6.
22:22 pugs_svnbot diff: http://dev.pugscode.org/changeset/18420
22:22 lambdabot Title: Changeset 18420 - Pugs - Trac
22:24 mncharity @tell fglock misc/kp6-repl.pl.  Cheers.
22:24 lambdabot Consider it noted.
22:34 avar mncharity: maybe move it to v6/v6-Kinda* ?
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22:46 mncharity avar: yes, go for it.  I basically just took audreyt's blog post and wrapped kp6 as a black box.  I didn't get a chance to look at the kp6 codebase, so, for instance, the file's package is currently named "RenameMe".  So assimilation is needed.
22:46 mncharity rindolf is a Llama?
22:54 mncharity &
23:00 avar mncharity: I only have v6/v6/KindaPerl6 checked out
23:00 avar s[v6/][]
23:00 avar but nm
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