Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2008-10-16

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00:01 TimToady or maybe there's some intermediate solution I'm not seeing offhand
00:01 TimToady (other than raising the maximum name length in Perl 5 :)
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00:28 meppl good night
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03:33 * pyrimidine points to http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/conference/2008/videos
03:33 lambdabot Title: Reflections | Projections 2008 : Videos
03:33 pyrimidine Talks aren't posted (yet), but I think TimToady
03:34 pyrimidine 's talks will be posted there
03:36 pyrimidine (along with a few others, including Prof. Alfred Aho)
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04:41 wayland76 Does "handles *" work yet?
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07:20 meppl good morning
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09:03 wayland76 Does "handles *" work in rakudo yet?
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12:26 moritz_ in which context? delegation?
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14:45 pmurias ruoso: do you think Capture.new_without_invocant makes sense?
14:45 ruoso pmurias, I think a lowlevel thingy that returns the capture itself would be clearer
14:45 ruoso because as a lowlevel thingy it doesn't need to use the invocant of the incoming capture
14:46 ruoso so you could even have
14:46 ruoso ¢SMOP__S1P__Capturize.new($foo: 1,2,3, :a(1))
14:46 ruoso I mean... that is a lowlevel operation...
14:47 pmurias creating a new opcode for capture creation?
14:47 ruoso pmurias, yeah... maybe
14:48 ruoso as you have an op that receives all parameters
14:48 ruoso s/op/call op/
14:48 ruoso you could have a capture op  that receives all the parameters and return the capture
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14:56 pmurias ruoso: do you want be to implement anything multi releated?
14:57 ruoso pmurias, If you want, you could take .() on s1p_multi
14:57 pugs_svn r22627 | ruoso++ | [smop] basis for multi implementation;
14:58 ruoso I'm quite overwhelmed at the moment... I'll only get back to it tonight or tomorrow
14:58 pmurias ok
15:01 pmurias ruoso: how do you plan to sort AdhocSingnatures?
15:02 ruoso pmurias, I'm not sure yet... I was thinking in failing on ambiguous dispatch until we figure that out
15:04 pmurias do we know how to implement binding yet?
15:06 TimToady in general it must be done in order of formal parameters so that default expressions can refer to earlier ones
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15:07 TimToady (or should at least give that appearance :)
15:08 ruoso pmurias, yes... by using 'bvalue context'
15:08 * ruoso beer^Wlunch &
15:11 pmurias what i meant is how are we going to do bvalue context with the "lazy context propagation"?
15:12 rindolf TimToady: hi.
15:12 rindolf TimToady: you may enjoy http://www.shlomifish.org/MathVentures/two-angels-and-two-gates.html
15:12 lambdabot Title: Two Gates and Two Angels - with a Twist, http://tinyurl.com/42vl83
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15:23 ruoso pmurias, the same way we do with everything else
15:24 ruoso the difference is that 'bvalue' is a "shadow" contex
15:24 ruoso *context
15:24 ruoso meaning that if you call a FETCH on a bvalue it will delegate directly as if it weren't a bvalue
15:24 ruoso the same with STORE
15:25 ruoso it can then BIND to another value
15:25 * ruoso really lunch &
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15:42 pugs_svn r22628 | moritz++ | [docs] small typo in Perl6::Perl5::Differences
15:47 pugs_svn r22629 | moritz++ | [docs] more clarifications in Perl6::Perl5::Differences
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15:54 riffraff hi
15:54 moritz_ hi riffraff
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16:33 pugs_svn r22630 | lwall++ | [Differences] various corrections
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16:51 pugs_svn r22631 | lwall++ | s/where/also/
16:52 pugs_svn r22632 | lwall++ | rename where.t to also.t
16:52 pugs_svn r22633 | masak++ | [t/spec/S12-class/namespaced.t] tests calling a method on a class with ::
16:52 pugs_svn r22633 | masak++ | in its name
17:03 pugs_svn r22634 | lwall++ | [Makefile] lexers must be remade if STD changed
17:03 pugs_svn r22634 | lwall++ | [STD] infix:where --> infix:also
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17:10 pugs_svn r22635 | masak++ | [t/spec/S12-class/namespaced.t] hm, fudge does not fudge multiline test calls
17:14 TimToady eh, it's supposed to
17:18 TimToady @tell masak fudge was certainly written to handle multiline test calls; if it doesn't, it's broken
17:18 lambdabot Consider it noted.
17:20 moritz_ TimToady: should it be able to handle nested blocks?
17:20 Khisanth hmm is there is ever a perl8 it should be named perl∞ instead
17:21 pmurias Khisanth: and perl9?
17:22 Khisanth there won't be anything after perl∞! :P
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17:31 PerlJam Khisanth: aleph-perl
17:32 moritz_ InfinitePerl 2.0
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17:49 pedrob :\
17:49 pedrob Perl Forever
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17:58 TimToady moritz_: no, not nested blocks, just outer blocks flush on the margin
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18:38 pugs_svn r22637 | lwall++ | [viv] add usage message for chromatic++
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18:52 pbuetow msg nickserv identify uruuru
18:53 pbuetow arrrghs!
18:53 pbuetow <- stupid :)
18:53 moritz_ change your password. Fast. ;)
18:53 pbuetow jeay
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23:22 meppl good night

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