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wayland76 |
perlbot karma wayland76 |
| 00:02 |
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perlbot |
wayland76 doesn't have any karma |
| 00:11 |
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meppl |
good night |
| 00:11 |
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wayland76 |
good night |
| 00:11 |
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meppl |
;) |
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| 00:19 |
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japhb |
jnthn: is it possible to set sub params as rw in Rakudo, and have it work? |
| 00:19 |
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jnthn |
Yes. |
| 00:19 |
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jnthn |
Though it's on my list of things that may not have good spectest coverage |
| 00:19 |
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japhb |
k |
| 00:20 |
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japhb |
just sub foo($param is rw)? |
| 00:20 |
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jnthn |
But I did review this just a few days back when pm and I were doing the container refactors. |
| 00:20 |
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jnthn |
Yes. |
| 00:20 |
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japhb |
cool beans, thx |
| 00:20 |
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jnthn |
rakudo: sub foo($x is rw) { $x = 42 }; my $a = 2; foo($a); say $a; |
| 00:20 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32502: OUTPUT[42] |
| 00:20 |
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jnthn |
Yes, works. |
| 00:26 |
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wayland76 |
Are there any windowing toolkits that cat be used from Parrot yet? |
| 00:26 |
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wayland76 |
s/cat/can/ |
| 00:28 |
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jnthn |
wayland76: I know there's SDL but I don't know that this counts as windowing toolkit. |
| 00:28 |
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japhb |
wayland76: and there's GLUT. Same problem. |
| 00:29 |
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japhb |
Although it does create windows and menus ... :-P |
| 00:29 |
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wayland76 |
Well, maybe SDL will do what I want :) |
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* jnthn |
doesn't know much about it |
| 00:30 |
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wayland76 |
At the moment, I'm mainly after something that makes canvases easy :) |
| 00:30 |
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wayland76 |
Anyway, now that I know what the options are, I can investigate them :) |
| 00:31 |
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wayland76 |
Thanks :) |
| 00:31 |
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jnthn |
Welcome, have fun. :) |
| 00:33 |
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pugs_svn |
r22970 | ruoso++ | [mildew] one test showing that if you define "knowhow ClassHOW", you can then use "class Foo". The relationship about each metaclass handles each keyword is hard-coded in the compiler. |
| 00:36 |
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ruoso |
@tell pmurias take a look at mildew/t/classhow_add_method.t |
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lambdabot |
Consider it noted. |
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* ruoso |
sleep & |
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pugs_svn |
r22971 | lwall++ | [Cursor] isolate symbols in a NOTBEFORE to fix mncharity++'s last; problem |
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pugs_svn |
r22971 | lwall++ | [Cursor] stub in a trie-engine as down payment on a real dfa |
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japhb |
rakudo: my $a = 2; my $b = 4; say "foo: {$a / $b}" |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32503: OUTPUT[foo: 0.5] |
| 00:52 |
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japhb |
*excellent* |
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TimToady |
what the heck was that? |
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TimToady |
why did it include foo:? |
| 00:55 |
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TimToady |
it should have been parsed as a label |
| 00:55 |
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jnthn |
TimToady: What? |
| 00:56 |
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jnthn |
Labels inside double quotes? |
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TimToady |
ah |
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TimToady |
missed those |
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* jnthn |
breathes a sigh of relief |
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TimToady |
I misread a question on my SAT like that too--kept me from getting an 800 on the math section... |
| 00:59 |
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jnthn |
TimToady: Am I right in thinking that if you declare a class, then write a BEGIN block after it, you can use that class, instantiate it etc in the BEGIN block? |
| 00:59 |
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TimToady |
yes, declarations happen at compile time |
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jnthn |
OK. |
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TimToady |
otherwise there wouldn't be much point in 'em |
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jnthn |
OK, that was the answer that I was expecting. |
| 01:00 |
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jnthn |
Follow up. |
| 01:00 |
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jnthn |
my $x is foo; # where foo is some trait we've defined |
| 01:01 |
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jnthn |
If we have that inside a sub, we would apply the trait each time the sub is invoked? |
| 01:01 |
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jnthn |
As in, create a container and apply the trait? |
| 01:01 |
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jnthn |
Or is that somehow a one-shot thing at compile time too? |
| 01:02 |
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TimToady |
there's an abstract $x that is shared by all invocations...at least in the abstract :) |
| 01:02 |
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ruoso |
meaning that the runtime can clone in each passage? |
| 01:03 |
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ruoso |
s/passage/invocation/ |
| 01:03 |
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TimToady |
it seems like you'd want to factor out common operations to one spot though, to the extent that your VM allows it |
| 01:04 |
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jnthn |
OK, so if the trait kept track of how many times it was applied (or, OK, the trait_auxilliary:is multi for that trait did), and we only ever wrote "my $x is foo" once in a subroutine, then called that sub 100 times, the counter would only get incremented once? |
| 01:04 |
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TimToady |
but if a VM cannot support something declaratively then it has to be emulated, of course |
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* jnthn |
hopes his question made sense - I can put it in code too if not! |
| 01:04 |
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Limbic_Region |
TimToady - the SATs were restructured in 2005. I scored a 1200 my sophmore year and never took them again |
| 01:05 |
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TimToady |
the trait is applied at compile time, in the abstract, not at run time |
| 01:05 |
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ruoso |
TimToady, on another issue, would you consider who's job to move bare statements in a package to INIT? viv? STD? or the actual compiler? |
| 01:06 |
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jnthn |
TimToady: OK, thanks. I'll probably now spend my flight on Thursday working out exactly what the fallout of this is. :-) |
| 01:07 |
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TimToady |
ruoso: I don't really understand your question |
| 01:08 |
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ruoso |
TimToady, viv currently sees the list of statements as plain |
| 01:08 |
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ruoso |
independently if it is a method_def or something else |
| 01:08 |
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TimToady |
well, it's certainly not peanut |
| 01:09 |
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ruoso |
it's my understanding that method_def, as well as other declarations happen at BEGIN |
| 01:09 |
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ruoso |
and other statements are only executed at INIT |
| 01:09 |
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TimToady |
after INIT, but go on |
| 01:10 |
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ruoso |
who do you think is the responsible for sorting out what should be in BEGIN and what shouldn't? |
| 01:10 |
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ruoso |
STD? |
| 01:10 |
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ruoso |
viv? |
| 01:10 |
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ruoso |
or the compiler itself? |
| 01:11 |
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TimToady |
I guess I don't know what you mean by "the compiler itself" |
| 01:11 |
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ruoso |
well... in our current setup... |
| 01:11 |
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ruoso |
mildew |
| 01:11 |
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diakopter |
out of band call to #perl6? |
| 01:11 |
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TimToady |
and I don't why you mention viv, when that's the vi-to-v translator :) |
| 01:12 |
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* jnthn |
suddenly gets what viv stands for |
| 01:12 |
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TimToady |
anyway, every construct needs to know whether it executes itself as part of its own reduction |
| 01:13 |
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TimToady |
and declarations may or may not return extra stuff to run at run time |
| 01:13 |
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TimToady |
my $x = 42; still hast to do the = at run time |
| 01:13 |
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TimToady |
but it doesn't have to do the "my" part, except insofar as the variable storage needs setting up at entry |
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| 01:14 |
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ruoso |
ok... |
| 01:14 |
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ruoso |
in mildew we have... |
| 01:14 |
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ruoso |
STD -> viv -> mildew -> m0ld |
| 01:15 |
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TimToady |
it was intended that viv be copied, not used :) |
| 01:15 |
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ruoso |
I'm not sure at which extent it is "used"... |
| 01:16 |
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ruoso |
but wasn't viv the one that turned the match tree into something more AST-like? |
| 01:16 |
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TimToady |
I suspect it's just the callback engine, which is pretty small |
| 01:16 |
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TimToady |
sure, but that's like one routine, and you don't want the rest of viv |
| 01:16 |
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TimToady |
if we want to abstract out that routine, fine |
| 01:17 |
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TimToady |
anyway, not what you're asking about |
| 01:17 |
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ruoso |
right... but it doesn't really matter to the question... |
| 01:17 |
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jnthn |
TimToady: You write "except insofar as the variable storage needs setting up at entry" - if you're doing a trait like is dim(2,3,4) or something, then this sized/shaped array needs creating at entry. |
| 01:17 |
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jnthn |
TimToady: Does this mean that really the trait should be supply the AST to Do That at runtime? |
| 01:18 |
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jnthn |
And it gets shoved into what we compile? |
| 01:18 |
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jnthn |
Rather than the trait being invoked at runtime to do that... |
| 01:18 |
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jnthn |
...which I guess doesn't fit with what you said earlier. :-) |
| 01:18 |
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TimToady |
well, declarations can have all kinds of consequences, and certainly some of the consequences are at run time |
| 01:18 |
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jnthn |
Sure. |
| 01:18 |
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jnthn |
I'm just trying to work out how traits will look |
| 01:19 |
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jnthn |
I mean, in Rakudo we identify a bunch of them hard coded in the actions. |
| 01:19 |
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jnthn |
But, well, I don't think that's really what we want. |
| 01:19 |
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ruoso |
trying to put in an example... |
| 01:19 |
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ruoso |
class Foo { say 1; method bar {...} say 2; }; |
| 01:19 |
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ruoso |
mildew currently sees the three statements in a flat list |
| 01:20 |
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TimToady |
well, assuming a newline in there |
| 01:20 |
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ruoso |
yes yes |
| 01:21 |
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ruoso |
but "method bar {...}" declaration will get executed much sooner than "say 1" and "say 2" |
| 01:21 |
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TimToady |
yes, in the sense that the method bar declaration executes even before say 2 is parsed |
| 01:22 |
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jnthn |
Wow. |
| 01:22 |
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jnthn |
That's even earlier than I expected. |
| 01:22 |
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ruoso |
who is the one who decides which statements are executed when? |
| 01:22 |
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TimToady |
the reduction of a BEGIN block must trigger its execution |
| 01:22 |
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TimToady |
just generalize from there |
| 01:23 |
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ruoso |
but who defines which one is a BEGIN and which isn't? |
| 01:23 |
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TimToady |
there needs to be a method to run a block that is accessible to the reduction action |
| 01:24 |
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TimToady |
alternately, some way for such reductions to signal their surrounding scope to execute them immediately |
| 01:25 |
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ruoso |
so, STD has a hook for everything, and the runtime then decides what should be BEGIN and what shouldn't... |
| 01:26 |
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* ruoso |
really looking at concrete code right now |
| 01:26 |
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ruoso |
not thinking abstract at all |
| 01:26 |
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TimToady |
another way of looking at it is that FOO {...} routines install themselves into various queues, and different queues are executed at different times |
| 01:27 |
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* ruoso |
doesn't really understand what that means relating to the question |
| 01:27 |
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TimToady |
declarations just happen to have an abstract container object that can be modified when such a beginnish routine is called by a trait |
| 01:28 |
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ruoso |
right... but who puts the container? |
| 01:28 |
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ruoso |
STD? |
| 01:28 |
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TimToady |
different declarators create different containers |
| 01:28 |
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diakopter |
TimToady: may a BEGIN block redefine the parsing of a BEGIN block [including itself]? |
| 01:29 |
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TimToady |
STD is just syntax, until you add actions |
| 01:29 |
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ruoso |
mhmm... |
| 01:29 |
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diakopter |
I mean, it couldn't define away the BEGIN's }, could it |
| 01:29 |
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TimToady |
diakopter: no, it's already parsed |
| 01:29 |
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TimToady |
the BEGIN reduction doesn't happen till after the } is parsed |
| 01:29 |
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diakopter |
oh |
| 01:29 |
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* ruoso |
feels too asleep to figure out entirely what all that means... |
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* ruoso |
sleep & |
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TimToady |
nite |
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jnthn |
TimToady: While we're on the evil... :-) |
| 01:30 |
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jnthn |
class Foo { method x { }; BEGIN { Foo.x }; } |
| 01:31 |
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jnthn |
Would we expect that to actually invoke x, or is it too early to instantiate Foo before it's definition is over? |
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diakopter |
jnthn: those noops are detected and eliminated :P |
| 01:32 |
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diakopter |
(kidding) |
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TimToady |
I think that's probably too early--it knows the name, but not the implementation |
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jnthn |
OK, sounds good. |
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TimToady |
so it would compile the BEGIN fine, but fail in the dispatch to Foo |
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TimToady |
groceries & |
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jnthn |
ooh...2:30am...sleep & |
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pmurias |
ruoso: m0ld is dynamic linking now |
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lambdabot |
pmurias: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. |
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pmurias |
shower& |
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* wayland76 |
has not quit :) |
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s1n |
pmichaud: finally back online |
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japhb |
rakudo hackers about? |
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Alias_ |
Probably mostly the wrong timezone |
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s1n |
only 0930 here |
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Alias_ |
Very late in the US, very early in Europe. Just us mere Australasians online right now |
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japhb |
rakudo: my $a = 2; sub foo { say "foo: $a"; bar(); }; sub bar { say "bar: $a"; }; foo(); |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32504: OUTPUT[foo: 2bar: ] |
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japhb |
That's breaking things for me right now, just wanted to know if it's a known issue |
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s1n |
not very late in the US, i meant to say 2130, not 0930 :) |
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pmichaud |
japhb: lexicals are still having issues in Parrot/rakudo, yes. |
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rakudo_svn |
r32510 | coke++ | [rakudo] RT #58974 - use of .return as a synonym for .tailcall is [DEPRECATED] |
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japhb |
pmichaud: OK, thanks for letting me know, I'll try to work around it. |
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lizsac |
no prob |
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japhb |
How do I produce a Parrot ManagedStruct/UnManagedStruct from Rakudo? Or alternately, is the Perl 6 syntax for packed native data working? |
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moritz_ |
ruoso: it should be recompiled by know - could you please check? |
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ZuLuuuuuu |
hello I guess perl 6 doesn't have a cgi or database module yet right? |
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lizsac |
use the force |
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moritz_ |
it has a basic CGI module. |
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ruoso |
mildew: knowhow Foo { method bar { $OUT.print("Hello World!\n") } }; Foo.bar; |
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p6eval |
mildew: No output (you need to produce output to STDOUT) |
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moritz_ |
Can't chdir to 'umask 002; ../../v6/mildew': No such file or directory at lib/EvalbotExecuter.pm line 136 |
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moritz_ |
oh dang, that looks broken. |
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moritz_ |
mildew: knowhow Foo { method bar { $OUT.print("Hello World!\n") } }; Foo.bar; |
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p6eval |
mildew: OUTPUT[Can't locate object method "term__S_387identifier" via package "STD" at ../../src/perl6/STD.pm line 1041.] |
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moritz_ |
that might be a permission problem |
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moritz_ |
mildew: knowhow Foo { method bar { $OUT.print("Hello World!\n") } }; Foo.bar; |
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p6eval |
mildew: OUTPUT[Can't locate object method "term__S_387identifier" via package "STD" at ../../src/perl6/STD.pm line 1041.] |
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pmurias |
moritz_: that's an old lex/ problem |
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moritz_ |
pmurias: feel free to clean it up |
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pmurias |
moritz_: i always forget the get into the chroot incantation |
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moritz_ |
chroot /chroot iirc |
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jnthn |
japhb: The packed native data stuff isn't done in Rakudo yet - not sure about how you can use the ManagedStruct / UnManagedStruct stuff from their either...need to think that one over a bit. |
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pmurias |
milew: $OUT.print("Hello world\n"); |
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pmurias |
mildew: $OUT.print("Hello world\n"); |
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p6eval |
mildew: OUTPUT[unknown method "new" at bool_message line 33 file /home/evalenv/pugs/v6/smop/src/native_bool.c] |
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ruoso |
pmurias, hi |
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pmurias |
ruoso: hi |
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ruoso |
pmurias, have you seen the new code in mildew? |
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pmurias |
i'm slowly getting up an fixing the mildew in the evalbot now |
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pmurias |
mildew: $OUT.print("Hello World\n") |
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p6eval |
mildew: OUTPUT[Hello World] |
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pmurias |
looking now... |
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ruoso |
mildew: knowhow Foo { method bar { $OUT.print("Hello World!\n") } }; Foo.bar; |
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p6eval |
mildew: OUTPUT[unimplemented: at mildew line 22 Mildew::XXX() called at mildew line 100 VAST::noun::emit_m0ld('VAST::noun=HASH(0xa0ab3f0)') called at mildew line 129 VAST::Terminator::emit_m0ld('VAST::Terminator=HASH(0xa1b6d70)') called at mildew line 319 |
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..VAST::statement::emit_m0ld('VAST::... |
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ruoso |
pmurias, I think mildew evalbot is still not up-to-date |
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pmurias |
moritz_: mildew doesn't automatically update it self |
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pugs_svn |
r22972 | jnthn++ | [spectest] Fudge isalso/is instead tests, so we only run is also for Rakudo and don't try to parse/compile the is instead. |
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pmurias |
mildew: knowhow Foo { method bar { $OUT.print("Hello World!\n") } }; Foo.bar; |
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p6eval |
mildew: OUTPUT[Hello World!] |
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moritz_ |
pmurias: feel free to install a cron job as user 'evalenv' (in the chroot) |
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ruoso |
hmm.. much better |
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moritz_ |
I thought I installed one, but it seems I missed it, or messed it up or something. |
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pmurias |
ruoso: we need &say as $OUT.print($var.FETCH) is nonspec and ugly |
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ruoso |
pmurias, I think we could install something like... |
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ruoso |
er... |
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ruoso |
we can't |
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ruoso |
we need signatures |
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pmurias |
yes |
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pmurias |
:) |
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ruoso |
I'm not sure it's a good idea to create yet another lowlevel just to see it pretty ;) |
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ruoso |
pmurias, but did you notice that method installs itself by calling $?CLASS.^add_method(...)? |
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pugs_svn |
r22973 | pmurias++ | [mildew] Makefile for make test - i forget to add it :( |
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pmurias |
ruoso: cool |
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pmurias |
ruoso: we pass 19 of our own tests now ;) |
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pmurias |
ruoso: why did you add AST::MetaCall? |
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pugs_svn |
r22974 | pmurias++ | [mildew] removed AST::List |
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ruoso |
pmurias, take a look on how the MetaCall is emitted |
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ruoso |
by doing that way I can re-use the invocant register |
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ruoso |
otherwise something().^add_method would result in two calls to "something()" |
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pugs_svn |
r22975 | ruoso++ | [mildew] added test_ target for different prove version |
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ruoso |
pmurias, is it really needed to rm -rf lex everytime you run make test? |
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ruoso |
it makes it incredibly slower... |
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pmurias |
ruoso: no |
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pugs_svn |
r22976 | ruoso++ | [mildew] refactoring the Makefile... now you have make prove which does not make clean... |
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r32525 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Add tests for is also to spectest_regression. |
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ruoso |
pmurias, what does prove --version outputs for you? |
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pmurias |
TAP::Harness v3.14 and Perl v5.10.0 |
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r32526 | moritz++ | [rakudo] add autovivification tests to spectest.data |
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pmurias |
ruoso: we could generalise MetaCall to a evaluate this use the result in that AST node |
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ruoso |
pmurias, maybe... but MetaCall is something special anyway... |
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pmurias |
expand please... |
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ruoso |
the way it expands $a.^b($c) to $a.^!how.b($a,$c) is very m0ld specific |
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pmurias |
shouldn't it be HOW? |
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pmurias |
$a.HOW.b($a,$c)? |
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Lorn |
pmurias: obfuscated in perl6? japh6? :P |
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pmurias |
Lorn: hm? |
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ruoso |
pmurias, except that $a.HOW is a macro |
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ruoso |
HOW is not really a method |
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ruoso |
$a.HOW should be translated to $a.^!how |
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pugs_svn |
r22977 | ruoso++ | [mildew] find out which version of prove you have and wich command switch to use |
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ruoso |
pmurias, please test the new Makefile |
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pmurias |
why is HOW a macro? |
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ruoso |
because the spec says so |
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pmurias |
works? |
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pmurias |
s/?// |
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pmurias |
ruoso: meant more why does the spec say so |
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ruoso |
because it's implementation specific |
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ruoso |
in SMOP it turns out to be a REPR method |
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ruoso |
which p6opque intercepts |
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ruoso |
and p6opaque only intercepts REPR methods |
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ruoso |
and all REPR methods have the '^!' prefix |
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pmurias |
makes a bit of sense if we view $foo.bar as $foo.HOW.dispatch(...) |
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ruoso |
except that we don't need to see it that way, because p6opaque already does that delegation |
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pmurias |
that |
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pmurias |
's true |
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pmurias |
ruoso: re elf and mildew tests what i meant i intended to have all of the p6 in the smop tests suit migrated to the mildew test suit and the elf dependency dropped |
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ruoso |
oh... ok |
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ruoso |
anyway... have to go now... |
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ruoso |
pmurias, if you have some time, please consider working on compiling signatures to AdhocSignature |
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pmurias |
ok |
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ruoso |
that's the thing missing so we can run ClassHOW.add_method |
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pugs_svn |
r22978 | pmurias++ | [smop] removed test 26 as we don't target pugs anymore |
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* ruoso |
later & |
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rakudo_svn |
r32527 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Fix a couple of bugs in candidate sorting for MMD. One was an off-by-one error. The other was more subtle; we mustn't remove edges from the graph per iteration of the topological sort, otherwise we end up not identifying one candidate as narrower than another, |
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rakudo_svn |
..depending on the order they appear in the code. |
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rakudo_svn |
r32528 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Make the Num type also accept Int values. |
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r32530 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Must create subset types earlier (in the end at compile time, but for now moving them to $?INIT, the same time as we do classes, makes things work much better). |
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r22979 | jnthn++ | [spectest] Fix a bug in the spectest, and fudge one test that Rakudo can't pass yet, for subset types in multiple dispatch. |
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r22980 | jnthn++ | [spectest] Add an explicit test that Num accepts Ints on assignment - couldn't find one that did this. |
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r32532 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Add multi dispatch based on subset types test. |
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pmurias |
jnthn: you are jonathan? |
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jnthn |
pmurias: I'm jonathan on #parrot :-) |
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jnthn |
But that was taken here. |
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jnthn |
Well, on this server. |
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jnthn |
So I'm jnthn here. |
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pmurias |
ruoso: i'm adding an call method_name => $invocant,[@positionals],[@named] AST creation helper to mildew, does it seem sane? |
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masak |
rakudo: say True ?? 1 !! False ?? 2 !! 3; |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32537: OUTPUT[2] |
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masak |
I can see how it might (mistakenly) say 2, as it does. I _don't_ see how it should say 1. |
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masak |
I could see how it'd say 0. |
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masak |
um. nvm. of course it should say 1. |
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* masak |
needs more coffee |
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pmichaud |
rakudo is parsing that incorrectly as (True ?? 1 || False) ?? 2 !! 3; |
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pugs_svn |
r22981 | pmurias++ | [mildew] &call helper |
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masak |
yes, I gathered. |
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masak |
seems I was parsing it incorrectly, too :) |
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r32541 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: spectest-progress.csv update: 212 files, 4199 passing, 473 failing |
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r22982 | moritz++ | [t/spec] some unfudges for rakudo |
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r32542 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] A while back, some changes were done that set $?CLASS when a grammar was created. But since we checked $?PACKAGE =:= $?GRAMMAR second after checking $?PACKAGE =:= $?CLASS, we stopped creating grammars properly, meaning they started inheriting from Any instead of some |
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..grammar rules. This switches around the ordering. Also re-fixes the bug originally fixed before this change where $?NS wasn't cleared. |
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r32543 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: Revise r32528 so that Num::ACCEPTS (re)uses existing .ACCEPTS |
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masak |
's there any way to write /aa+/ without repeating 'a'? |
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jnthn |
a**{2...} maybe? |
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jnthn |
erm, a**2... |
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jnthn |
...maybe... :-) |
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masak |
doesn't currently work, anyway. |
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jnthn |
Whether it's allowed and whether it's implemented may be two different things mind. |
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masak |
ya. |
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jnthn |
I think it's what you'd want in the long run. |
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jnthn |
Could always file a ticket asking for it. :-) |
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PerlJam |
three dots == infinity? I thought you had to put a whatever-* there |
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PerlJam |
a**2..* |
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PerlJam |
(or something) |
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jnthn |
Oh, maybe |
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jnthn |
I forget exactly. |
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PerlJam |
me too :) |
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jnthn |
There is some infinite range style syntax that does that kinda thingy anyway. |
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jnthn |
:-) |
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masak |
PerlJam: 2..* looks much better. |
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masak |
and it works! |
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masak |
PerlJam++ |
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PerlJam |
Continued affirmation that my memory works better than I expect :) |
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* masak |
will try to remember that :) |
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r32545 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Make C compiler shut up with its warnings. Spotted by masak++. |
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masak |
rakudo: for "foo\nbar\nbaz".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { .say } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[foobarbaz] |
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masak |
um, bad example. :) |
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moritz_ |
but done right ;) |
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masak |
rakudo: for "foo\nbar\nbaz".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { .say; say } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[foobarbaz] |
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masak |
hah! |
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masak |
izzat a bug I see? |
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masak |
no, wait. |
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moritz_ |
where do you see a bug? |
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pmichaud |
hah! |
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masak |
that's right too. |
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* jnthn |
is struggling to see it. |
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moritz_ |
cought the ticket before it left masak's head ;) |
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masak |
I'm too trigger happy today... |
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masak |
...but now I've found something. seriously! |
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masak |
rakudo: say "foo\nbar\nbaz".trans([ /\s+/ => " " ]) |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[foo bar baz] |
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masak |
all good, yes? |
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masak |
now look: |
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masak |
rakudo: for "foo\nbar\nbaz".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { say .trans([ /\s+/ => " " ]) } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[too few arguments passed (2) - 3 params expectedcurrent instr.: '_block25' pc -342568903 ((unknown file):-1)] |
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masak |
HAH! |
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* masak |
files ticket |
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* jnthn |
tries to work out what on earth could have wanted 3 params.. |
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masak |
jnthn: the .trans |
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pmurias |
jnthn: what arguments does postcircumfix:<( )> take in rakudo? |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: say "foo\nbar\nbaz".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ).WHAT; |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[List] |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: say "foo\nbar\nbaz".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ).elems; |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[1] |
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masak |
as should be. |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: for "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { .say } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[foo] |
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pmurias |
jnthn: does it receive a capture or are the arguments passed as parts of the capture |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: for "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { $_.trans( [ /o/ => ' ' ] ) } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[too few arguments passed (2) - 3 params expectedcurrent instr.: '_block25' pc -342600339 ((unknown file):-1)] |
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moritz_ |
pmurias: rakudo doesn't have any postcircumfix methods or subs yet that are actually user visible |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: for "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { $_.trans( [ 'o' => ' ' ] ) } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[too few arguments passed (2) - 3 params expectedcurrent instr.: '_block25' pc -342566453 ((unknown file):-1)] |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: for "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { .say.WHAT } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[foo] |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: for "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { say $_.WHAT } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[Str] |
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jnthn |
pmurias: What moritz said. But calls boil down to the invoke VTABLE method. |
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moritz_ |
rakudo: for "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { say $_.trans( [ 'o' => ' ' ] ) } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[too few arguments passed (2) - 3 params expectedcurrent instr.: '_block25' pc -342579023 ((unknown file):-1)] |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ )[0].trans( [ 'o' => ' ' ]); |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[too few arguments passed (2) - 3 params expectedcurrent instr.: '_block11' pc -342477533 ((unknown file):-1)] |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ).[0].trans( [ 'o' => ' ' ]); |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32543: OUTPUT[too few arguments passed (2) - 3 params expectedcurrent instr.: '_block11' pc -342450071 ((unknown file):-1)] |
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jnthn |
I think that you'd be able to make postcircumfix:<( )> take things into a capture, though. |
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pmichaud |
oh, I see the issu |
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pmichaud |
issue |
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jnthn |
pmurias: We don't explicitly construct a capture right now. |
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pmichaud |
the strings that come back from PGE aren't Perl6Str |
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jnthn |
Ah. |
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pmichaud |
so it's calling the .trans method in (Parrot) String instead of (Perl 6) Str |
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jnthn |
The Parrot string has a trans method? |
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* jnthn |
didn't know that |
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jnthn |
Makes sense though. |
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pmichaud |
METHOD trans(STRING *src, PMC *table) { |
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masak |
pmichaud: is it easy to fix? |
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pmichaud |
masak: not at the moment. |
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jnthn |
Needs HLL. :-( |
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pmichaud |
we need to get HLL type mapping in place. |
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masak |
oh well. |
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pmichaud |
and then PGE will have to become smart enough to do that mapping. |
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jnthn |
pmichaud: I forgot what that blocked on? Or is it just tuits? |
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* masak |
will try to work around it somehow |
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pmichaud |
tuits, I think |
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pmichaud |
masak: try prefix:<~> |
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masak |
pmichaud: I will, thx |
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pmurias |
jnthn: postcircumfix:<( )> takes a capture in smop and spec currently |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: for "foo".split( /\n ** 2..*/ ) { (~$_).trans( [ 'o' => ' ' ] ) } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 32545: OUTPUT[too few arguments passed (2) - 3 params expectedcurrent instr.: '_block25' pc -342619037 ((unknown file):-1)] |
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pmichaud |
we may need to fix prefix:<~> to always return Perl6Str |
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pmichaud |
(won't be necessary after HLL mapping, though.) |
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jnthn |
pmurias: Sure, that makes sense. |
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japhb |
jnthn: oh bother (re: packed data and (Un)ManagedStruct difficulties) ... that's going to make life ... interesting. Hmmm, is there a Perl 6 pack()/unpack() pair yet? I could go from that angle. |
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jnthn |
No, I think not. |
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pmichaud |
we can certainly write a pack()/unpack() or other helper function for it. |
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r32546 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Make grammars in namespaces work correctly. Patch courtesy of Chris Dolan. |
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rakudo_svn |
r32547 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Add a namespace/grammar related spectest file. |
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r32548 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: fix trailing space |
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* jnthn |
looks at what doing the managedstruct stuff the real way from Perl 6 would take. |
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jnthn |
Ouch. |
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jnthn |
japhb: Actually implemetning what's under the heading Compact Structs in S09 is a bit of work. |
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jnthn |
There's a bunch of stufff I've not really thought about so much yet. |
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japhb |
jnthn: I believe it. |
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pmichaud: how much work would it be to do the pack()/unpack()? |
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pmichaud |
japhb: I don't know how well pack/unpack are defined for Perl 6 yet (more) |
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pmurias |
jnthn: it was a thing we were unsure about for a bit, and i was having doubts again for a moment about it while implementing .() ;) |
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pmichaud |
japhb: however, in this particular case you might look at writing a custom pair of functions to do it and importing those |
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pmichaud |
japhb: I'm not completely familiar with ManagedStruct under Parrot (nevr had a use or need for it) |
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pmichaud: It lets you construct a C-level struct, dynamically. |
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japhb |
OR array, or combination of the two |
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pmichaud |
jnthn: sure, I've just never used it. |
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jnthn |
It'll probably be somewhat involved when we do compact structs in Rakudo. |
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jnthn |
Really we don't have any of the native types exposed at Rakudo level at all yet though. |
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japhb |
It basically shows a normal keyed interface as if it wasn't packed, but marshals magically through NCI to/from the packed equivalents. |
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jnthn |
Which is really a pre-req. |
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japhb |
Parrot will need to finally admit its native type system is lacking when you have to do the Perl version. Unless you just tell Parrot it's a buffer of bytes and back the heck off, thankyouverymuch. |
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good evening |
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japhb |
jnthn, pmichaud: Is there a way to specify constants in a separate module in Rakudo, and after 'use FooConstants;' have them participate in any optimizations that literal constants would have? |
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japhb |
jnthn: what signature are you planning for the simplified MAIN? |
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jnthn |
japhb: Not that I know of - we don't have "is constat" implemented yet, either, though... |
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japhb |
Fair enough. |
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TimToady |
there is no "is constant" that I know of... |
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TimToady |
there's a constant declarator though |
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jnthn |
Simplified MAIN will just pass the command line args along. If you've written a MAIN that takes that many positional arguments, you'll get that one (of course declare multi if you're doing that to write many) |
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jnthn |
That's all I'm doing for now - this is really Jerry's turf. :-) |
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japhb |
TimToady: Either you read everything that goes by here, or you've got a very fine sixth sense .... |
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TimToady |
the two are not mutually exclusive :) |
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japhb |
True. |
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japhb |
But I meant that in the math 'or' sense, not the English bastardization. |
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PerlJam |
TimToady: Tell the truth. You didn't really get *ordinary* corneas, did you? You're really a cyborg now. |
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TimToady |
will that MAIN break badly when named args get mapped to *% params? |
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japhb |
jnthn: So if I want to ignore all, can I declare 'sub MAIN { ... }', and to catch all just do 'sub MAIN (*@args) {...}' |
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TimToady |
I don't know who my (one) cornea came from, but both my lenses are plastic, though different from each other |
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jnthn |
Yes, that should work, apart from slurpy may be broken at the moment. |
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TimToady |
with slightly different transmission of near UV |
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japhb |
jnthn: oh. |
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TimToady |
so my black lights look violeter in one eye than the other |
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japhb |
Will @*ARGS still be visible, at least, if slurpy args are broken? |
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jnthn |
japhb: Yes. |
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japhb |
TimToady: freaky. and cool. |
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PerlJam |
TimToady: ah ... only one cornea, eh? So the other eye has the device that links you directly to the internet? :) |
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japhb |
jnthn: great, thanks. |
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jnthn |
TimToady: It's not meeting the spec for sure. :-) |
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TimToady |
maybe it should be called NOTMAIN or something :) |
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jnthn |
TimToady: particle's grant covers doing that, I'm just getting japhb something simple to work with for now. |
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japhb |
Somebody is getting paid well to make it correct .... |
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jnthn |
Right. |
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I'm sure particle is going to be happy to find we already have introspectable signatures when he gets to doing it. :) |
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r22983 | moritz++ | [t/spec] test for rakudo regression (Num += Int) |
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r32551 | chromatic++ | [Rakudo] Tidied some code in Perl6MultiSub PMC. No functional changes. |
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r32552 | chromatic++ | [Rakudo] Added sub name to multidispatch failure message in Perl6MultiSub PMC. |
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r32554 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Some very basic support for MAIN entry point sub. Just passes all command line arguments as positionals. |
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r32555 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: Don't do tailcalls for methods called from C. (jonathan++) |
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Hello! |
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ruoso: y0 |
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r32567 | jonathan++ | [rakudo] Set scope to $?FOO type variables to be lexical, and set up $?PACKAGE. Gives wrong stringification for root namespace for now (should be Main), but should be correct otherwise. |
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r22984 | ruoso++ | [smop] now we have s1p_package... |
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r22984 | ruoso++ | [mildew] a package declarator defines $?PACKAGE as well.. |
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ruoso |
perl6: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE{"&bar"} }; Foo.bar; |
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rakudo 32567: OUTPUT[Missing '}' at line 1, near ""current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)] |
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..pugs: OUTPUT[***  Unexpected end of input expecting ";" or "}" at /tmp/0OFp7ei77f line 2, column 1] |
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..elf 22847: OUTPUT[Parse error in: /tmp/z1VU4wxGBTpanic at line 1 column 58 (pos 58): Missing right braceWHERE: $?PACKAGE{"&bar"} }; Foo.bar;WHERE: /\<-- HERE STD_red/prelude.rb:99:in `panic' STD_red/std.rb:255:in `_block_rest' STD_red/std.rb:242:in `block in |
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ruoso |
pugs: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE.{"&bar"} }; Foo.bar; |
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pugs: OUTPUT[***  Unexpected end of input expecting ";" or "}" at /tmp/8ysX0Fyl6p line 2, column 1] |
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r22985 | lwall++ | [Cursor] revert last; fix because it breaks !~~ and friends |
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ruoso |
pugs: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE }; Foo.bar; |
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pugs: OUTPUT[***  Unexpected end of input expecting ";" or "}" at /tmp/XmMlwHsOOi line 2, column 1] |
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ruoso |
pugs: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE.{"&bar"} }}; Foo.bar; |
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pugs: OUTPUT[*** Class prototype occured where its instance object expected: Foo at /tmp/1h650RWtpl line 1, column 30-49 /tmp/1h650RWtpl line 1, column 30-49] |
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ruoso |
pugs: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE.{"&bar"} }}; Foo.new.bar; |
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pugs: OUTPUT[*** Class prototype occured where its instance object expected: Foo at /tmp/Vxzh3iqQFt line 1, column 30-49 /tmp/Vxzh3iqQFt line 1, column 30-49] |
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ruoso |
pugs: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE<&bar> }}; Foo.new.bar; |
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p6eval |
pugs: OUTPUT[*** Class prototype occured where its instance object expected: Foo at /tmp/EA7OWfTrjn line 1, column 30-46 /tmp/EA7OWfTrjn line 1, column 30-46] |
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ruoso |
er |
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ruoso |
are methods registered in the package as well as in the class? |
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ruoso |
pugs: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE }}; Foo.new.bar; |
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p6eval |
pugs: OUTPUT[Foo] |
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ruoso |
pugs: class Foo { method bar { say $?PACKAGE.new }}; Foo.new.bar; |
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pugs: OUTPUT[<obj:Foo>] |
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TimToady |
depends on whether they're our or my methods |
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TimToady |
our is the default |
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ruoso |
right... but I was considering if they would only be in the class |
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TimToady |
it is possible that some declarations that currently default to our should default to my instead |
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ruoso |
I wonder what is the use for methods being stored in package |
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ruoso |
*packages |
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ruoso |
TimToady, I understand the generalization of every routine being stored in the package, but does that really applies to methods? |
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