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| 00:02 |
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Kodi |
Defining &infix:<eqv> or &infix<cmp> on new classes simply doesn't work. Is that a reported bug? It is what causes most of the tests in series-nonnumeric.t to fail. |
| 00:09 |
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pugssvn |
r31469 | Kodi++ | [t/spec] Fixed another of my ", ..." typos. |
| 00:14 |
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sorear |
Kodi: Where is Alternating.v defined? |
| 00:15 |
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Kodi |
sorear: Whoops, you're right! That should be '.val'. |
| 00:15 |
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sorear |
Does that fix it? |
| 00:16 |
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sorear |
Oh, wait |
| 00:16 |
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Kodi |
I'll fix that, but I've tested overloading eqv and cmp in simpler cases. |
| 00:16 |
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Kodi |
Let me make sure I'm not crazy. |
| 00:16 |
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sorear |
Overloads in Perl 6 are scoped, iirc |
| 00:16 |
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sorear |
infix:<eqv>:(Alternating,Alternating) is defined only in that one block |
| 00:17 |
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sorear |
it's not defined anywhere infix:<...> could see it |
| 00:17 |
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sorear |
possibly changing to our multi would help |
| 00:18 |
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Kodi |
rakudo: class Foo {has $.v;}; multi infix:<cmp>(Foo $x, Foo $y) {$x.v cmp $y.v}; my $a = Foo.new(v => 1); my $b = Foo.new(v => 2); say $a cmp $b; say $b cmp $a; |
| 00:18 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7102d7: OUTPUT«No applicable candidates found to dispatch to for 'infix:<cmp>'. Available candidates are::(Foo $x, Foo $y) in 'infix:<cmp>' at line 11:/tmp/0X5QgjV6Wx in main program body at line 11:/tmp/0X5QgjV6Wx» |
| 00:19 |
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Kodi |
Huh? |
| 00:19 |
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sorear |
Kodi: in that test, you're calling cmp directly |
| 00:20 |
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sorear |
Kodi: if you call infix:<...>, the cmp overload needs to be somewhere ... can find it |
| 00:20 |
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sorear |
ah |
| 00:20 |
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Kodi |
sorear: Bear with me, now. Why won't the dispatcher use that candidate. |
| 00:20 |
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Kodi |
? |
| 00:21 |
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sorear |
rakudo: class Foo {has $.v;}; multi infix:<cmp>(Foo $x, Foo $y) {$x.v cmp $y.v}; my $a = Foo.new(v => 1); my $b = Foo.new(v => 2); say $a cmp $b; say $b cmp $a; |
| 00:21 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7102d7: OUTPUT«No applicable candidates found to dispatch to for 'infix:<cmp>'. Available candidates are::(Foo $x, Foo $y) in 'infix:<cmp>' at line 11:/tmp/SzObXPvJKb in main program body at line 11:/tmp/SzObXPvJKb» |
| 00:21 |
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sorear |
rakudo: class Foo {has $.v;}; our multi infix:<cmp>(Foo $x, Foo $y) {$x.v cmp $y.v}; my $a = Foo.new(v => 1); my $b = Foo.new(v => 2); say $a cmp $b; say $b cmp $a; |
| 00:21 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7102d7: OUTPUT«-11» |
| 00:21 |
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sorear |
ok good I'm not just making this up |
| 00:22 |
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Kodi |
Huh. |
| 00:22 |
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sorear |
because infix:<cmp> is defined as a package-scope function, and you can't augment a package multi with a lexically scoped overload |
| 00:22 |
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Kodi |
So what's the scope of the cmp without "our"? |
| 00:22 |
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sorear |
my |
| 00:22 |
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sorear |
private, lexical |
| 00:22 |
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Kodi |
I see. |
| 00:22 |
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Kodi |
Thanks a lot. |
| 00:23 |
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Kodi |
Is it intended that you can't have lexical instances of a package multi, or is that an implementation limitation? |
| 00:24 |
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sorear |
I don't know |
| 00:24 |
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sorear |
probably intended |
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pugssvn |
r31470 | Kodi++ | [t/spec] Fixed overloading of cmp and eqv in series tests. |
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| 02:11 |
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cuppe |
so...I'm new, and just playing around at the moment. was trying to figure out how to do constructors in perl6 and hit this problem: http://scsys.co.uk:8002/45223 |
| 02:12 |
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cuppe |
that's with the june rakudo release btw |
| 02:12 |
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sorear |
cuppe: new is just an ordinary method |
| 02:12 |
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sorear |
if you override new to be { say "constructor" }, then Player.new() will return whatever say() returns |
| 02:13 |
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sorear |
object construction happens in the default new(), but you overrode the default new(), so no construction happened |
| 02:14 |
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sorear |
any reason why you couldn't just use has @.hand = ... like you did for $.user? |
| 02:15 |
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ash_ |
cuppe: http://perlgeek.de/blog-en/per[…]itialization.html does a good job of explaining how object construction works in rakudo |
| 02:16 |
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cuppe |
sorear: because I want to do more than just assignment |
| 02:16 |
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cuppe |
ash_: ty |
| 02:16 |
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ash_ |
there are multiple parts of object construction, so adding a 'new' isn't always what you want |
| 02:17 |
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sorear |
cuppe: use BUILD, then |
| 02:18 |
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cuppe |
yeah. I didn't know about it, I tried new() and other stuff |
| 02:19 |
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cuppe |
now it prints "Any()" instead of the expected "6" |
| 02:19 |
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ash_ |
the image in the middle of the post is a great visual representation of the construction process |
| 02:22 |
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cuppe |
why do I get Any()? |
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| 02:25 |
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ash_ |
rakudo: class Foo { has $.bar is rw; submethod BUILD { $.bar = 'bar is set'; } }; my $a = Foo.new; say $a.bar; |
| 02:25 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«bar is set» |
| 02:28 |
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cuppe |
rakudo: class Foo { has $.bar is rw = 6; submethod BUILD { 1; } }; my $a = Foo.new; say $a.bar; |
| 02:28 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«Any()» |
| 02:28 |
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cuppe |
rakudo: class Foo { has $.bar is rw = 6; }; my $a = Foo.new; say $a.bar; |
| 02:28 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«6» |
| 02:30 |
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ash_ |
hmm thats weird, i don't get why its setting it to any |
| 02:30 |
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ash_ |
rakudo: class Foo { has $.bar is rw = 6; submethod BUILD { $.bar = 123; } }; my $a = Foo.new; say $a.bar; |
| 02:30 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«123» |
| 02:35 |
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cuppe |
he ran away ;( |
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| 02:56 |
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sorear |
cuppe: Any is the default value of an uninitialized variable |
| 02:56 |
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sorear |
I guess your BUILD is overwriting whatever sets up variables, or something |
| 02:57 |
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sorear |
might play around with --target=pir to see what Rakudo's really doing; there's probably a bug report lurking in here somewhere |
| 02:58 |
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cuppe |
if BUILD works like that should that be expected behavior |
| 02:58 |
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ciphertext |
cuppe, sorear: i suspect this is a bug. The spec (S12:827) says that "any default attribute values are implicitly copied into any attributes that haven't otherwise been initialized" |
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cuppe |
if that gets changed I can keep coding and find more :p |
| 03:06 |
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cuppe |
I can obviously work around whatever is happening |
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sorear |
hmm. sprixel needs to treat 'class' like 'sub' |
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sorear |
...yeah, Sprixel ClassHOW is going to look basically nothing like Rakudo's |
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| 04:07 |
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dalek |
csmeta: r346 | stefa...@cox.net++ | trunk/vicil/Kernel.cs: |
| 04:07 |
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dalek |
csmeta: [vicil] Mock up some compiled code so the kernel can be fleshed out |
| 04:07 |
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dalek |
csmeta: review: http://code.google.com/p/csmet[…]urce/detail?r=346 |
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| 04:26 |
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sorear |
Actually, TIMTOWDI |
| 04:26 |
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sorear |
I'm going to provide TWO metamodels for Sprixel |
| 04:26 |
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sorear |
one will be based on runtime class generation, and will support mixins & traits |
| 04:26 |
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sorear |
the other will generate classes at compile time and will load much faster |
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ciphertext |
colomon: ping |
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| 06:15 |
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ciphertext |
phenny: tell colomon i've got series passing all (nonfudged) tests, and conforming to almost all of the spec. See http://nopaste.snit.ch/21602 for details. (especially note the section at the bottom). |
| 06:15 |
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phenny |
ciphertext: I'll pass that on when colomon is around. |
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| 06:26 |
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sorear |
rakudo: say ((1, -1/2, 1/4 ... 0)[5]).perl |
| 06:26 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«-1/32» |
| 06:26 |
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sorear |
rakudo: say ((1, -1/2, 1/4 ... 0)[55]).perl |
| 06:26 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«-2.77555756156289e-17» |
| 06:27 |
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sorear |
rakudo: say ((1, -1/2, 1/4 ... 0)[400]).perl |
| 06:27 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«3.87259191484932e-121» |
| 06:27 |
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sorear |
rakudo: say ((1, -1/2, 1/4 ... 0)[600]).perl |
| 06:27 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: ( no output ) |
| 06:27 |
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sorear |
rakudo: say (1, -1/2, 1/4 ... 0).length |
| 06:27 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«Method 'length' not found for invocant of class 'List' in main program body at line 11:/tmp/0PpmrIHCeK» |
| 06:28 |
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sorear |
rakudo: my @x = (1, -1/2, 1/4 ... 0); say @x.elems; |
| 06:28 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: ( no output ) |
| 06:28 |
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sorear |
rakudo: say (1, -1/2, 1/4 ... 0).elems |
| 06:28 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: ( no output ) |
| 06:28 |
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sorear |
huh. I wonder what's going on here |
| 06:45 |
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dalek |
csmeta: r347 | stefa...@cox.net++ | trunk/vicil/notes.pod: |
| 06:45 |
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dalek |
csmeta: [vicil] Notes on the two ClassHOWs, new model of lexotics, eval in BEGIN |
| 06:45 |
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dalek |
csmeta: review: http://code.google.com/p/csmet[…]urce/detail?r=347 |
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moritz_ |
good morning #perl6 |
| 07:07 |
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sorear |
good morning moritz_ |
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araujo |
morning |
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dalek |
csmeta: r348 | stefa...@cox.net++ | trunk/vicil/Kernel.cs: |
| 07:14 |
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dalek |
csmeta: [vicil] Add CLRImportObject, shorten IPerl6Object -> IP6 since I'm typing it so |
| 07:14 |
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dalek |
csmeta: much |
| 07:14 |
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dalek |
csmeta: review: http://code.google.com/p/csmet[…]urce/detail?r=348 |
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dalek |
csmeta: r349 | stefa...@cox.net++ | trunk/vicil/Kernel.cs: |
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dalek |
csmeta: [vicil] Implement &say in the mock compiler output |
| 07:54 |
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dalek |
csmeta: review: http://code.google.com/p/csmet[…]urce/detail?r=349 |
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pugssvn |
r31471 | moritz++ | fix plan in if.t |
| 08:03 |
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pugssvn |
r31472 | moritz++ | [t/spec] unfudges in undefined-types.t |
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pugssvn |
r31473 | radus++ | [t/spec] Added test for RT69314 - Null PMC access when calling 'callsame' directly from a sub in Rakudo. |
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radu_ |
std: enum SomeEnum <a b c>; say SomeEnum::.keys |
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p6eval |
std 31472: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 111m» |
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radu_ |
rakudo: enum SomeEnum <a b c>; say SomeEnum::.keys |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«Could not find sub &SomeEnum in main program body at line 11:/tmp/j1v9zTTjio» |
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pugssvn |
r31474 | radus++ | [t/spec] Added test for RT70894: Cannot do .keys on enum type stash in Rakudo. |
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moritz_ |
http://www.perlmonks.org/?view[…]ic;node_id=632816 # preview of a Perlmonks meditation; feedback welcome |
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moritz_ |
sorry, just had a small downtime of the IRC logs |
| 09:01 |
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moritz_ |
some a**hole started scraping all the pages with 10 parallel requests or so |
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moritz_ |
with distributed IPv6 source addresses |
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Guest23195 |
cxreg: How's your FakeDBD::Pg work going? |
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sorear |
:/ perlmonks doesn't like anons |
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moritz_ |
sorear: http://moritz.faui2k3.org/tmp/involved.html then |
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moritz_ |
sorear: the links are broken there, but should be fine on perlmonks |
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sorear |
I see |
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sorear |
drat. vicil isn't going to be the first Perl 6 implementation to use STD |
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dalek |
csmeta: r350 | stefa...@cox.net++ | trunk/vicil/notes.pod: |
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dalek |
csmeta: [vicil] Rethink of interfaces system |
| 09:07 |
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dalek |
csmeta: review: http://code.google.com/p/csmet[…]urce/detail?r=350 |
| 09:07 |
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moritz_ |
please reload, just pushed some minor fixes |
| 09:08 |
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moritz_ |
sorear: don't complain, rather be happy... it means that pmurias++ already found some mis-parses and made TimToady++ fix them :-) |
| 09:09 |
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sorear |
apparently, checking the "don't abbreviate my e-mail" box on google code doesn't do anything |
| 09:09 |
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sorear |
in particular, it doesn't make dalek-- see the whole thing |
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* sorear |
out |
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mmcleric |
morning everyone |
| 09:13 |
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mmcleric |
rakudo: say(:foo) |
| 09:13 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«Unexpected named parameter 'foo' passed in 'say' at line 4732:CORE.setting in main program body at line 11:/tmp/iBFJKQMwk2» |
| 09:13 |
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mmcleric |
rakudo: say((:foo)) |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«foo 1» |
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mmcleric |
is this intentional? |
| 09:15 |
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moritz_ |
yes |
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moritz_ |
(:foo) is a list/parcel of single pair |
| 09:15 |
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moritz_ |
while :foo is a named argument in the context of a signature |
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mmcleric |
yes, i understand it |
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mmcleric |
i'm asking because jnthn's suggestion to propagate all .returns() in Actions.pm broke things |
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mmcleric |
handle_named_parameter relies on .returns() value to check node type |
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mmcleric |
and with () around it, (:foo) returns Pair too now |
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moritz_ |
so it's probably missing a :named or so |
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mmcleric |
its missing .value |
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mmcleric |
or do you mean i should check if node has :named attribute to check if its really pair and not pair in parens? |
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pugssvn |
r31475 | radus++ | [t/spec] Added test for RT 72814 - Null PMC access when typing a my-declared variable as ::a in Rakudo. |
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moritz_ |
mmcleric: I'm not sure, but that (:named) could be it |
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pugssvn |
r31476 | moritz++ | [t/spec] more rakudo unfudges, pmichaud++ |
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cognominal |
too bad eval is not usable as a lhs, that would help me to circumvent the abscense of := |
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cognominal |
*absence |
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cognominal |
...without eval-uating the whole statement |
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pmichaud |
cognominal: I expect to be able to implement at least a simple form of := today. |
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moritz_ |
even binding to scalars would help many people |
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mberends |
that will be great. I have no current need for := but it's something that seems to block several developers here |
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pmichaud |
moritz: "need little to know Parrot knowledge" should be "need little to no Parrot knowledge" |
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pmichaud |
(in the meditation draft) |
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mberends |
hmm |
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mberends |
moritz_: could you figure out a way to refer to Rakudo * in your "getting involved"? At the BPW yesterday I also tried to emphasize that R* is intended to enable inexperienced developers to easily begin their own projects, and that we hope the list a proto.perl6.org quickly doubles in number of projects. |
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moritz_ |
mberends: I'll do |
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moritz_ |
pmichaud: thanks |
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mmcleric |
how can i do "defined" or "exists" in NQP? |
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pmichaud |
pir::defined($var) |
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pmichaud |
pir::exists($var, $index) |
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mmcleric |
thanks :) |
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cognominal |
pmichaud++ # that would avoid many contorsions. I don't mind if it lacks all the necessary checking and I am not sure they are even specified... |
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cognominal |
my @a; my Int @b |
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cognominal |
@a := @b # is that legal for example (when checks implemented) |
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cognominal |
I feel that @a inherits the restrictions from @b |
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moritz_ |
right |
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moritz_ |
otoh @b := @a would be disallowed |
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moritz_ |
pmichaud: turns out that my "Parent is not a class" problem in the 'optimizations' branch is also triggered in the PAST::Pattern code |
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moritz_ |
I suspect it might be related to Rakudo being in a different HLL |
| 12:01 |
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moritz_ |
anyway, I've sent tcurtis++ an email describing the problem |
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moritz_ |
(I avoid it in my code in the branch by monkey-typing Perl6::Compiler |
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moritz_ |
) |
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pmichaud |
moritz_: yes, that could be it |
| 12:06 |
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pmichaud |
moritz_: I still haven't remembered what triggers that particular error. I know it's something pretty simple, though. |
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tadzik |
how to open a binary file for writing in Perl 6? |
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mberends |
tadzik: wait one month, then recompile latest Rakudo ;-) (it's NYI but expected soon) |
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moritz_ |
tadzik: 1) bug masak to implement it 2) do it :-) |
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tadzik |
:) ok |
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moritz_ |
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=846772 # posted my meditation |
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tadzik |
http://wklej.org/id/357014/ |
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tadzik |
gives me a segfault. Bug? |
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pmichaud |
segfault is a bug, yes. |
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pmichaud |
but note that open doesn't throw a catchable error, iirc. |
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pmichaud |
it returns a failure |
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tadzik |
well, if I use say not die, CATCH works |
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tadzik |
but the program does not terminate even if I put exit in CATCH, prints some other things anyway |
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pmichaud |
ah, the segfault is because the CATCH is catching the 'die' |
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pmichaud |
I think that's a known bug. |
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pmichaud |
(at least, that's my guess) |
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pmichaud |
at any rate, I don't think open() should be throwing an exception. Perhaps I'm mis-remembering the spec, though. |
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pmichaud |
(it can throw an exception if 'use fatal' is in effect) |
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tadzik |
hmm, is the author of LWP::Simple wandering around maybe? |
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moritz_ |
the perl 5 or the perl 6 one? |
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moritz_ |
iirc cosimo_ wrote the Perl 6 version |
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tadzik |
the Perl 6 one of course |
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tadzik |
cosimo_? |
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moritz_ |
hugme: tweet rakudoperl Getting involved with #perl6: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=846772 |
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* hugme |
hugs moritz_; tweet delivered |
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tadzik |
yay, fixed |
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tadzik |
I tried to implement getstore(), but fixed LWP::Simple instead |
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pmichaud |
LWP::Simple url? |
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tadzik |
http://github.com/cosimo/perl6-lwp-simple |
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pmichaud |
thanks |
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tadzik |
it was failing for urls with slashes actually |
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tadzik |
(for me at least) |
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pmichaud |
$path = '/' ~ @path.join('/'); |
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pmichaud |
ick. |
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pmichaud |
better would be |
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pmichaud |
($proto, $hostname, @path) = $url.split(/\/+/, 3); |
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pmichaud |
s/@path/$path |
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tadzik |
I wrote @path[0].join(), for some reason @path was like [[bla, bla, bla]] |
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pmichaud |
better would be to use the ,3 version |
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tadzik |
getstore() might work, but not for binary files (obvious reason) |
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tadzik |
it works for texts though |
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radu_ |
rakudo: sub foo() {say $test; }; my $test = foo(); |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«Any()» |
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radu_ |
hm. I was expecting an undeclared variable error. Does anyone know if this is how it should work? |
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allbery_b |
I think it's like perl5: the former is in the global setting, the latter in the lexical. It *should* warn, though. |
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pmichaud |
that should've been an error, yes. |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: say $a; my $a = 5; |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: OUTPUT«Any()» |
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pmichaud |
that's.... weird. |
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radu_ |
ok, i'll submit a bug report |
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allbery_b |
...right. more lightbox time needed, maybe I'll wake up :} |
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pmichaud |
S05-mass/rx.t has a lot of uses of &infix:<S&> in it. What's it supposed to represent, or why was it chosen here? |
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* pmichaud |
gets rid of them. |
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cosimo_ |
pmichaud, tadzik, thanks, i'll fix the module |
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tadzik |
cosimo_: I sent you a complete patch to gh issues |
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tadzik |
even wrote a test for that, but I don't know how to run tests for p6 -_- |
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mmcleric |
anyone care to review my patch about nested *? |
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mmcleric |
it's RT#76140 |
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mmcleric |
or better, http://github.com/berekuk/raku[…]499923f9077205b02, there are some per-line notes |
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dalek |
rakudo: 56d8874 | pmichaud++ | src/core/IO.pm: |
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dalek |
rakudo: open() should fail, not die. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]0c8ab31378100afe6 |
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cosimo_ |
unfortunately, applying tadzik's patch to LWP::Simple, makes it fail the case where no path is supplied |
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pugssvn |
r31477 | pmichaud++ | [t/spec]: Miscellaneous test cleanups. |
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frew |
so what's the difference between a rule and a token in a grammar? |
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frew |
rules can have actions and tokens can't? |
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dalek |
rakudo: 0a87aa7 | pmichaud++ | src/ (3 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: Eliminate Mu::!STORE -- we no longer do "copy pmc" semantics for values. |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]3e39f31fac2d457bf |
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dalek |
rakudo: 7bcf224 | pmichaud++ | src/cheats/eval.pm: |
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dalek |
rakudo: Refactor eval() to set $! properly (first version). |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]96cdbd2c00c53678d |
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dalek |
rakudo: d16a2f0 | pmichaud++ | src/core/IO.pm: |
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dalek |
rakudo: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:rakudo/rakudo |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]21de158e3cbd33f2f |
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cosimo_ |
damn, it's so nice to have method names like 'parse-url()' |
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cosimo_ |
i'm getting used to it, and suddenly 'parse_url()' looks so ugly! :) |
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frew |
cosimo_: true dat |
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pmichaud |
mmcleric: I think I need to let jnthn++ review the patch |
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mberends |
frew: a regex is your basic building block. token is regex with :ratchet (no backtracking) and rule is token with :sigspace. All can have actions. |
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mmcleric |
pmichaud: ok :) seems like he's not around today, though |
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pmichaud |
mmcleric: but I also think that any hoisting of .returns and .arity should take place in the semilist action, not in circumfix:sym<( )> |
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frew |
huh... |
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frew |
mberends: thanks |
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mberends |
:) afk & |
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cosimo_ |
if I declare a class with 'class foo:auth<COSIMO>:ver<3.14> {}' is there a way to get the 3.14? |
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cosimo_ |
for example to print it on stdout? |
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cosimo_ |
or, in alternative, any other "standard" way to declare a version for a module? |
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pmichaud |
I don't think we have that implemented yet. |
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* TimToady |
is back online, but likely to be busy today helping set up the quiz meet |
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pmichaud |
TimToady: o/ |
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ingy |
TimQuizzy |
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frew |
is it supposed to be possible to modify a grammar at runtime? if so, is that implemented in rakudo |
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TimToady |
sorear: it is intended that all function/macro defs be lexically scoped, and that a macro use the 'lift' statement prefix (NYI) to genericize its code into its caller's lexical scope |
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TimToady |
S04:768 |
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TimToady |
I'm sure the spec still needs some work there though... |
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TimToady |
so if you ask me embarrassingly good questions about lift, I'll say "Beats me." :) |
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ingy |
frew: I will probably need to do that today as well... |
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ash_ |
rakudo: use MONKEY_TYPING; grammar Foo { }; augment grammar Foo { }; # frew |
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p6eval |
rakudo 233401: ( no output ) |
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TimToady |
s/macro/multi/ |
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frew |
very cool... |
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ash_ |
that lets you add more to it leter |
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ash_ |
later* |
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frew |
and presumably if I define a token in the second grammar that's already in the first it just blows the former token away |
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frew |
I wonder if it would be better to just make a sub grammar (isa) at runtime and override from there |
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frew |
probably. |
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ash_ |
TimToady: can you use a role on a grammar to add tokens? |
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TimToady |
ash_: STD already does that |
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pmichaud |
frew: inheritance is generally preferred to monkey patching :) |
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frew |
pmichaud: that's what I figured |
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ash_ |
cool, so you can do a role instead |
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frew |
I like it better to |
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frew |
too* |
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frew |
then you can go back |
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TimToady |
everywhere you see .tweak in STD, it's really doing a mixin of a role |
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ash_ |
or inheritance... lol so TMTOWTDI |
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TimToady |
mixins are inheritance, not monkey typing |
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ash_ |
monkey typing doesn't work on grammars? |
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pmichaud |
ash_: it *does* work, but it's not preferred :) |
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ash_ |
got ya |
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pmichaud |
mmmmm.... running spectests on amazone ec2 instances takes only ~20 mins :) |
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pmichaud |
*amazon |
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ash_ |
cool |
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frew |
pmichaud: now you need to set it up so that it parallelizes on enough instances to run in 5s |
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frew |
pmichaud: and then set up a pre-commit-hook 8-P |
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pmichaud |
afk, errands |
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frew |
so could I use a grammar role to add | 'x' to a token? |
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frew |
and can I do something similar in a subclassed grammar? |
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frew |
for example, instead of copying the parent token and adding | 'x' myself, could I do soething like, .next::token | 'x' ? |
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ash_ |
frew: have you seen proto regex's? |
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pmichaud |
frew: protoregexes |
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frew |
ash_: no; looking for examples now |
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pmichaud |
they're explicitly for "add a new alternative" to a token or regex |
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frew |
ah, very cool |
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pmichaud |
short version: |
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ash_ |
http://perlgeek.de/en/article/[…]rammar-for-perl-6 has an example of some, but pmichaud can give you lots of good examples too |
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pmichaud |
proto token number { <...> } |
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frew |
I'm looking at nqp right now |
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pmichaud |
token number:sym<0d> { '0d' \d+ } |
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pmichaud |
token number:sym<0x> { '0x' <.xdigit>+ } |
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frew |
ok, so sym isn't like, a variable name then? It's what says this is a candidate? |
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pmichaud |
token number:sym<integer> { \d+ } |
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pmichaud |
the above causes <number> to match any of the candidates |
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frew |
right |
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pmichaud |
if you use <sym> in a regex, it corresponds to the name of the regex |
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pmichaud |
thus |
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pmichaud |
token number:sym<0x> { <sym> <.xdigit>+ } # same as above |
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frew |
oooh |
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frew |
neat |
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pmichaud |
(it also captures to $<sym>) |
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pmichaud |
anyway, you can subclass the grammar and add new token number:... regexes |
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frew |
right |
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pmichaud |
so then <number> in the grammar subclass includes the ones from the base class as well as the ones added in the subclass |
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frew |
and that sounds very clean and neat |
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pmichaud |
It is. |
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pmichaud |
as an added bonus, protoregexes do some nice lookahead based on constant strings |
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pmichaud |
so, when matching <number>, it's able to jump directly to the 0d or 0x rule if it sees that next in the match (and it doesn't bother calling those subrules if it doesn't) |
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masak |
hi, #perl6! |
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frew |
very cool |
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TimToady |
protoregexes are really a form of alternation, and full-blown P6 is supposed to write you a LTM matcher at every alternation |
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pmichaud |
correct |
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pmichaud |
NQP is able to handle rule-level alternations at the moment |
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pmichaud |
it doesn't do intra-rule LTM on alternations yet. |
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TimToady |
(which STD has a brand-new implementation of from sorear++) |
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pmichaud |
yes, I'm looking forward to stealing STD's new implementation, or adopting it altogether :) |
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pmichaud |
afk, errands |
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masak |
sorear++ |
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ingy |
patch: greetings |
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pugssvn |
r31478 | pmichaud++ | [t/spec]: Match objects are mutable, remove test for immutability (RT #65610) |
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any base64 encoding example in perl6 ? |
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pmurias |
sorear: ping |
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phenny |
pmurias: 25 Jun 18:29Z <moritz_> tell pmurias that I'm working on my yearly "Getting involved with Perl 6" post for perlmonks. Is there anything I should say about contributing to mildew, and if yes, what? |
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phenny |
pmurias: 25 Jun 18:32Z <moritz_> tell pmurias also if you want to have any links to mildew that you would like to see included, please let me know |
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ingy |
src/rakudo/parrot_install/bin/parrot -o src/gen/perl6.pbc src/Perl6/Compiler.pir |
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ingy |
I'm building rakudo and seemingly hanging there |
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ingy |
for almost an hour |
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ingy |
any thoughts? |
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sorear |
hello #perl6 |
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sorear |
pmurias: pong |
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pmurias |
sorear: i'm moving the uniprop reading from INIT to BEGIN time |
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pmurias |
so it's possible to load STD at runtime |
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pugssvn |
r31479 | pmurias++ | [STD] move uniprop loading from INIT to BEGIN time |
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pmurias |
sorear: is it ok? |
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pmurias |
sorear: what is CORE.lex and how do i optain that? |
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pmurias |
s/optain/obtain/ |
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sorear |
pmurias: I had a good reason for INIT, but I've forgotten it. If you can make BEGIN work, that's fine |
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sorear |
pmurias: CORE.lex is dead and gone, you can't obtain it |
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sorear |
pmurias: if STD asks for CORE.lex, it means you forgot to run ./std CORE.setting (are you using the Makefile...?) |
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pmurias |
http://pastie.org/1020965 |
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sorear |
right |
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pmurias |
running make |
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sorear |
the file you actually want is "syml/CORE.syml.store" |
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sorear |
hello timbunce! |
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timbunce_ |
hi sorear |
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tadzik |
cosimo_: new lwp simple checks the uri scheme and connects to the appropriate port. But will the data you send be appropriate for e.g. FTP? |
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neo_ |
helo |
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neo_ |
hello |
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tadzik |
helo |
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pugssvn |
r31480 | sorear++ | [Cursor] A more awesome error message when syml/CORE.lex.store isn't found (pmurias++) |
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neo_ |
i have a question about classes in p6 |
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Tene |
Hi! |
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Tene |
What's your question? |
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neo_ |
what is the file extension, also the same like p5 ".pm" ? |
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moritz_ |
.pm and .pm6 work both |
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neo_ |
okay and another question (sorry) , i use now the padre ide, is sombody knows a ide that have highlighting for p6 ? |
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neo_ |
and thx @moritz |
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neo_ |
also @Tene |
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szabgab |
neo_, I think both vim and emacs have highlighers for p6 |
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szabgab |
as Padre has |
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masak |
neo_: also, we kinda like it when people ask Perl 6 questions :) |
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moritz_ |
neo_: the vim hilighting is much better than the emacs one |
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neo_ |
sorry, is it right, if i write variables in the class like "$!bla;" |
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pugssvn |
r31481 | pmurias++ | [Cursor] use last instead of goto label |
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pmurias |
sorear: got rid of the goto |
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tadzik |
cosimo_: looks like it just hangs on ftp |
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neo_ |
ok, i will come back if i have more questions, now i will try to lern more about p6 |
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neo_ |
see you all later |
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pmurias |
sorear: VAST::infix__S_Tilde doesn't inherit from VAST::Base, what could cause that? |
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TimToady |
cool, power failure here, but the internet is still up... |
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lue |
Well, don't know how to react to that :) |
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lue |
[you must be using a laptop] |
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TimToady |
well, yes... |
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TimToady |
which I unplugged as soon as the lightning started... |
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masak |
TimToady: maybe it's the kind of internet that doesn't run on electricity. |
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TimToady |
otoh I'm sitting on a meta chair, which could be either good or bad... |
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TimToady |
*metal |
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sbp |
want to buy metachair |
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TimToady |
weatherized carrier pigeons, no doubt |
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lue |
.u chair |
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phenny |
U+2441 OCR CHAIR (⑁) |
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lue |
rakudo: say 3 R- 2; say 3 ⑁- 2; |
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p6eval |
rakudo d16a2f: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===Confused at line 11, near "say 3 \u2441- 2"» |
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lue |
.oO(darn, no metachair) |
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ingy |
patch and I are having troubles building parrot on my linux box |
| 20:28 |
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ingy |
is there a tag we can try |
| 20:28 |
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ingy |
does a given rakudo tag link to a specific parrot build? |
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TimToady |
if you do 'perl Configure.pl --gen-parrot' it's supposed to pull in the right one |
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ingy |
TimToady: what's a known good rakudo checkin? |
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moritz_ |
ingy: each rakudo release targets a parrot release |
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ingy |
we are just trying to write a perl6 module |
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moritz_ |
so rakudo tag 2010.06 targets parrot 2.5.0 |
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ingy |
k |
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ingy |
where does the best perl6.vim live? |
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masak |
http://github.com/petdance/vim-perl |
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pmichaud |
aiiiigh |
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pmichaud |
colomon++ has turned all compile-time constants into runtime subroutine invocations :-( |
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ingy |
masak: installed, but doesn't seem to work |
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ingy |
what does it key on? |
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masak |
ingy: I haven't tried it myself. |
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ingy |
nod |
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masak |
pmichaud: in what way does that merit a ++ ? :) |
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pmichaud |
masak: I'm not sure that it does. |
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masak |
sounds like a way to slow things down... |
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pmichaud |
yeah, I'm uncomfortable with this particular refactoring of things. |
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masak |
oh! open() fails now? |
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masak |
that's bound to cause a bit of an impact on the Application Cheese... :) |
| 21:08 |
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pmichaud |
that's the way I think it's supposed to work. |
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masak |
it is. |
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pmichaud |
I'm surprised it was ever 'die' |
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masak |
it's been "die" for the past 2 years. |
| 21:08 |
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pmichaud |
I'm surprised it got repeated in ng, then :) |
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masak |
:) |
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masak |
rakudo: say 3 !% 9 |
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p6eval |
rakudo d16a2f: OUTPUT«0» |
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masak |
rakudo: say 9 !% 3 |
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p6eval |
rakudo d16a2f: OUTPUT«1» |
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* masak |
submits rakudobug |
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pmichaud |
oh, colomon++'s patch only appear to affect the decimal numbers, not the ints |
| 21:10 |
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pmichaud |
that's much less worrisome to me. |
| 21:10 |
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pmichaud |
but I'd still prefer to see it precompile things to constants over processing strings at runtime. |
| 21:12 |
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pmichaud |
and I really don't like the global namespace being littered with the conversion routines |
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saaki |
masak: that's the output i would expect, what were you expecting? |
| 21:12 |
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pmichaud |
std: say 9 !% 3 |
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p6eval |
std 31481: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0mCan't negate % because multiplicative operators are not iffy enough at /tmp/p0fsMUqQ__ line 1:------> say 9 !%⏏ 3Parse failedFAILED 00:01 112m» |
| 21:12 |
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masak |
saaki: there was a spec change the other day. |
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pmichaud |
saaki: that. :-) |
| 21:12 |
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saaki |
ah =) |
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masak |
saaki: !% is now known as %%. |
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lue |
what the heck is iffyness? |
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masak |
saaki: congratulations, you just made it into a rakudobug report ;) |
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saaki |
doh! |
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masak |
saaki: consider it a privilege. you're contributing information. |
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arnsholt |
lue: Conditionalness |
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saaki |
i'm just operating under intuition, i'll have to read the specs i suppose |
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masak |
saaki: yes. all of them. all the time. :P |
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masak |
lue: there's "iffy", "diffy" and "fiddly", all of which describe operators. |
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masak |
I'm getting nothing done, so I'm going to take an early night. see you all tomorrow! o/ |
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mberends |
o/ |
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saaki |
night |
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pmichaud |
masak: quick question? |
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masak |
absolutely. |
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pmichaud |
I'm a bit curious about the signature of Buf.new() |
| 21:16 |
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pmichaud |
it says it takes an array |
| 21:16 |
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pmichaud |
not a slurpy array? |
| 21:17 |
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masak |
yes. |
| 21:17 |
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masak |
that's new. |
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masak |
I changed the spec and everything. |
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pmichaud |
why an array and not a slurpy, ooc? |
| 21:17 |
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masak |
this was after talking with jnthn, who indicated that a slurpy array would be very expensive here. |
| 21:17 |
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masak |
since we expect Bufs to be fairly long. |
| 21:18 |
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masak |
apparently making the array slurpy incurs a big speed hit. |
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pmichaud |
....and we expect these long bufs to be created using .new ? |
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masak |
how else would you create a Buf? |
| 21:18 |
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pmichaud |
one could create an empty Buf and add things to it |
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ingy |
why would a build hang on 'src/rakudo/parrot_install/bin/parrot-nqp --target=pir --output=src/gen/perl6-actions.pir' |
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ingy |
?? |
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pmichaud |
(I'm just asking :) |
| 21:19 |
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ingy |
so frustrating... |
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pmichaud |
ingy: I'm guessing your machine might be a little short of ram? |
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masak |
pmichaud: it seemed like a good idea at the time. :) still does, I think. |
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pmichaud |
masak: okay. I'm not so sure that slurpies will take the huge speed hit in the future, though. |
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ingy |
is there a way to get a binary build? |
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pmichaud |
masak: and I'd hate to set an API based on Rakudo's current characteristics. |
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masak |
pmichaud: one thing I can think of which might change the decision back is if other similar constructors take slurpies, like Set.new, for example. |
| 21:20 |
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pmichaud |
afaik, Array.new and Seq.new all take slurpies |
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masak |
hm. ok. |
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pmichaud |
I don't know about Set.new |
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masak |
will discuss it with jnthn++ next time I see him. |
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pmichaud |
makes sense |
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masak |
g'night. |
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pmichaud |
but just because slurpies are slow now doesn't mean they'll always be that way :) |
| 21:21 |
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masak |
indeed. |
| 21:21 |
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pmichaud |
(and I'm not so sure they're slow now for basic arrays) |
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pmichaud |
ingy: I'm not aware of any binary builds at the moment |
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pmichaud |
(we certainly hope packagers will create some when R* comes out :-) |
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ingy |
pmichaud: Mem: 262364k total |
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pmichaud |
256MB? That's a little small for Rakudo build, yes. |
| 21:23 |
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ingy |
it's a slicehost image :\ |
| 21:24 |
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pmichaud |
I just tried some builds on Amazon's EC2 cloud system -- worked very nicely there :-) |
| 21:24 |
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pmichaud |
even builds under the "small 32-bit image" |
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ingy |
pmichaud: what's the fast path to get set up there? |
| 21:25 |
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pmichaud |
but yes, 256MB is likely to be a bit constraining at the moment. We'd like to get Parrot and Rakudo to use less memory, but there's a fair bit of refactoring and optimization that needs to happen for that. |
| 21:25 |
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pmichaud |
on ec2? |
| 21:25 |
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ingy |
yah |
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pmichaud |
just a sec, I'll write up the steps |
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ingy |
bless you |
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pmichaud |
I just did this for the first time myself yesterday, based on Util++'s talk at yapc::na |
| 21:32 |
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pmichaud |
the first set of instructions I'm writing will be for command-line ubuntu |
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pmichaud |
I'll then write a set for web interface |
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ingy |
nod |
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pmichaud |
version 1 of instructions: http://www.pmichaud.com/sandbo[…]buntu-cmdline.txt |
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pmichaud |
now for a web-based version |
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pmichaud |
oops, typo |
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pmichaud |
(updated) |
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pmichaud |
web-based instructions now at http://pmichaud.com/sandbox/ec2-ubuntu-web.txt (doesn't require the ubuntu ec2 tools) |
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ingy |
pmichaud++ |
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ingy |
pmichaud: trying now... |
| 22:11 |
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pmichaud |
I'm sure the instructions need some updating. |
| 22:11 |
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pmichaud |
Maybe I'll stick them on the rakudo github wiki. |
| 22:12 |
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ingy |
pmichaud: can I create multiple users on this? |
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pmichaud |
ingy: I don't know. |
| 22:13 |
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pmichaud |
basically all I know about ec2 is there in that document :-) |
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ingy |
:) |
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songmaster |
Hi, I'm just starting out with p6. What's the simplest way to initialize a hash with keys 1..9 (values don't care)? |
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pmichaud |
songmaster: my %hash = 1..9 X Any; |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: my %hash = 1..9 X Any; say %hash.perl; |
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p6eval |
rakudo d16a2f: OUTPUT«{"1" => Any, "2" => Any, "3" => Any, "4" => Any, "5" => Any, "6" => Any, "7" => Any, "8" => Any, "9" => Any}» |
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songmaster |
pmichaud: Ahh, thanks. |
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pmichaud |
rakudo: my %hash = 1..9 X 'welcome'; say %hash.perl; |
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p6eval |
rakudo d16a2f: OUTPUT«{"1" => "welcome", "2" => "welcome", "3" => "welcome", "4" => "welcome", "5" => "welcome", "6" => "welcome", "7" => "welcome", "8" => "welcome", "9" => "welcome"}» |
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* sorear |
wonders what the improvement in r31481 is |
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pmichaud |
std: say <1 2 3>.>>.perl; |
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p6eval |
std 31481: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 111m» |
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ingy |
pmichaud++ # perl6 installed easily on ec2 |
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ingy |
thanks!! |
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ingy |
\o/ |
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sorear |
Ouch! All parameters always being containerized calls the circularity saw when the argument in question is the invocant to FETCH |
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* sorear |
decides, grudgingly, to allow non-containerized values |
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diakopter |
heh |
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