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lichtkind |
when does lines know when to read a file, when its a string quoted with the adverb :path ? |
| 00:09 |
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lichtkind |
i mena the lines command |
| 00:09 |
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lichtkind |
mean |
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lichtkind |
TimToady: and should chars for consistancy not return a list with all character which would in num context do the same as now? |
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dalek |
tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]rl_6_index_tablet |
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ch3ck |
rehi |
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lichtkind |
hai ch3ck |
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ch3ck |
hi lichtkind |
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lichtkind |
ch3ck: almost leaving can i help you? |
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ch3ck |
lichtkind: at the moment i don't need help, thx |
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lichtkind |
kthxgby :) |
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ch3ck |
bye |
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dalek |
tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]rl_6_index_tablet |
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tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]l_6_lookup_tablet |
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dalek |
tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]rl_6_index_tablet |
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masak |
'sup, #perl6. |
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ch3ck |
gugu masak |
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masak |
:) |
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diakopter |
http://www.indeed.com/jobtrend[…]vascript,+java&l= |
| 01:58 |
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* masak |
is late with his November blogging today |
| 01:59 |
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masak |
diakopter: COBOL overtaking Perl? apart from that, I don't see anything in that graph that surprises me. |
| 02:00 |
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diakopter |
where do you see that |
| 02:00 |
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diakopter |
cobol's at the bottom |
| 02:00 |
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masak |
oh. |
| 02:00 |
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diakopter |
C# & javascript overtaking perl recently |
| 02:00 |
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masak |
right, that's C#. |
| 02:00 |
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masak |
then I have no further questions, your honor. |
| 02:03 |
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diakopter |
oh wait.. /me misread too. C# & javascript overtook Perl in mid '06\ |
| 02:03 |
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masak |
yes. |
| 02:03 |
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diakopter |
Perl seems to be converging with C++ though, maybe overtaking it eventually :) |
| 02:04 |
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diakopter |
scarily, the growth of php continues unabated |
| 02:04 |
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masak |
worse is better. |
| 02:04 |
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diakopter |
python rises quickly too |
| 02:05 |
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masak |
that sounds scary on many levels. |
| 02:05 |
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diakopter |
:P |
| 02:05 |
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diakopter |
pretty soon, all programming job descriptions will include all of these keywords ;) |
| 02:06 |
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diakopter |
SQL & C are way up there at 5% (of *all* job descriptions) |
| 02:06 |
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diakopter |
who knows if "C" is in programming context, though. |
| 02:07 |
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Khisanth |
indeed needs more colors ... |
| 02:08 |
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masak |
seems we need to do more of this: http://twitter.com/NegativeK/s[…]/6463457343832065 |
| 02:08 |
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masak |
ttjjss === tadzik? |
| 02:09 |
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masak |
seems so. tadzik++ |
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colomon |
o/ |
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masak |
\o |
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dalek |
niecza: 148689c | sorear++ | / (4 files): |
| 02:54 |
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dalek |
niecza: Use a more efficient method for boxing constants |
| 02:54 |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]536eebd346a103091 |
| 02:54 |
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dalek |
niecza: 907d277 | sorear++ | / (2 files): |
| 02:54 |
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dalek |
niecza: Box constants exactly once |
| 02:54 |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]713f1eb99b1ca4bd8 |
| 02:58 |
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dalek |
6model: 5f2da69 | diakopter++ | / (3 files): |
| 02:58 |
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dalek |
6model: [Regex] start on PAST::Regex emission. Pending moar help from jnthn++ |
| 02:58 |
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dalek |
6model: review: https://github.com/jnthn/6mode[…]dc5aa1f70cbaf7772 |
| 03:03 |
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masak |
blog post! http://strangelyconsistent.org[…]nkles-to-iron-out |
| 03:04 |
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masak |
sorry about the late. I deviated from my usual strict regimen of lots of Perl 6 and no socializing with friends. ;) |
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diakopter |
masak: wait. what's the distinction? ;) |
| 03:26 |
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masak |
heh :) |
| 03:26 |
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diakopter |
between Perl 6 and socializing with friends, I mean, of course |
| 03:26 |
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diakopter |
(in case someone didn't give me the benefit of the doubt in that statement :)) |
| 03:27 |
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masak |
oh. thought you meant between lots of Perl 6 and little socializing with friends. ;) |
| 03:28 |
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masak |
alpha: class A { my $.x = 42; method foo { say $.x } }; A.new.foo |
| 03:28 |
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p6eval |
alpha : OUTPUT«42» |
| 03:28 |
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masak |
rakudo: class A { my $.x = 42; method foo { say $.x } }; A.new.foo |
| 03:28 |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«Method 'x' not found for invocant of class 'A' in 'A::foo' at line 22:/tmp/Vf8EKOC9DJ in main program body at line 22:/tmp/Vf8EKOC9DJ» |
| 03:28 |
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masak |
ah. that explains a lot. |
| 03:32 |
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* masak |
submits rakudobug |
| 03:34 |
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masak |
rakudo: class A { my $x = 42; method foo { say $x } }; A.new.foo |
| 03:34 |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«42» |
| 03:34 |
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masak |
that works, though. |
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masak |
rakudo: sub foo {}; say &foo.wrap({ nextsame }) |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«2» |
| 04:37 |
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masak |
this is not spec-conformant, and there's a rakudobug about it in RT already. |
| 04:38 |
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masak |
but I wanted to ask: is there a way to query a wrap handle for the underlying wrapped function? |
| 04:38 |
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masak |
more generally, can the wrapping process be written out as Perl 6? |
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sorear |
the wrapping process feels brokenly overengineered to me |
| 04:44 |
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masak |
can you back that up with reasons? because to the extent that I grok it, I quite like it. |
| 04:45 |
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masak |
I especially like the fact that a wrapping can be hotswapped without the programmer having to worry about the other wrappings above and/or below. |
| 04:45 |
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sorear |
look at jnthn's problems. sub revectoring can be orthogonal to dispatch |
| 04:45 |
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sorear |
but it's not |
| 04:45 |
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masak |
I'm not familiar with the term 'revectoring'. |
| 04:46 |
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masak |
is it related to the thing with lexical caching? |
| 04:46 |
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sorear |
I'm not familiar with the term 'lexical caching'. |
| 04:46 |
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masak |
:) |
| 04:47 |
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sorear |
revectoring is just making a sub point somewhere else |
| 04:47 |
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masak |
I know that the set of multis that can be seen can vary between every lexical scope. what I meant with 'lexical caching' was simply storing that information on the lexical block somewhere after calculating it once. |
| 04:47 |
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sorear |
code indirections get called vectors sometimes. especially stuff like interrupt vectors and opcode vectos |
| 04:48 |
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masak |
ah. I'd never understood that usage of 'interrupt vector'. thanks. |
| 04:50 |
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TimToady |
masak: your blog is incorrect |
| 04:50 |
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TimToady |
see S02:3802 |
| 04:51 |
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* masak |
does so |
| 04:51 |
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masak |
er. but I know that part. |
| 04:51 |
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masak |
so I must have written something unclearly somewhere. |
| 04:52 |
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masak |
TimToady: where? |
| 04:52 |
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TimToady |
Won't work, due to a wonderful little invention called unspace, |
| 04:52 |
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TimToady |
that's in a qq, so it's not an unspace |
| 04:52 |
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masak |
oh! |
| 04:52 |
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TimToady |
mind, rakudo doesn't implement it right yet |
| 04:53 |
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masak |
I see. |
| 04:53 |
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TimToady |
but it's specced to work |
| 04:53 |
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masak |
that is news to me. |
| 04:53 |
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TimToady |
that's why I said it. :) |
| 04:53 |
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masak |
TimToady++ |
| 04:53 |
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* masak |
updates the post |
| 04:54 |
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masak |
oh, and by the way: that's good news. I like that a backslash solves the problem. |
| 04:55 |
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TimToady |
metoo, which is why we outlawed unspace in quotes (at top level only, of course) |
| 04:55 |
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masak |
oh, I remember that now. |
| 04:55 |
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masak |
rakudo: my $foo = "work"; say "This should $foo\[]" |
| 04:55 |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«This should work» |
| 04:55 |
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masak |
er. |
| 04:55 |
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masak |
rakudo: my $foo = "work"; say "This should $foo\</a>" |
| 04:55 |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«postcircumfix:<{ }> not defined for type Str() in main program body at line 1» |
| 04:56 |
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* masak |
submits rakudobug |
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masak |
rakudo: say "\<" |
| 04:56 |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«<» |
| 04:56 |
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TimToady |
std: my $x; "$x[$y]" |
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p6eval |
std a194beb: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0mVariable $y is not predeclared at /tmp/IFbJELh2v3 line 1:------> my $x; "$x[$y⏏]"Check failedFAILED 00:01 121m» |
| 04:57 |
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TimToady |
std: my $x; "$x\[$y]" |
| 04:57 |
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p6eval |
std a194beb: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0mVariable $y is not predeclared at /tmp/sMj1q7mt8A line 1:------> my $x; "$x\[$y⏏]"Check failedFAILED 00:01 120m» |
| 04:57 |
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TimToady |
oops |
| 04:57 |
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masak |
:) |
| 04:57 |
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TimToady |
hmm |
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TimToady |
oh, of course |
| 04:57 |
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TimToady |
not a bug |
| 04:57 |
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masak |
nope. |
| 04:58 |
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TimToady |
std: my $x; "$x[syntax error]" |
| 04:58 |
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p6eval |
std a194beb: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0mUndeclared routines: 'error' used at line 1 'syntax' used at line 1Check failedFAILED 00:01 121m» |
| 04:58 |
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TimToady |
std: my $x; "$x\[syntax error]" |
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p6eval |
std a194beb: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 120m» |
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TimToady |
that's better |
| 04:59 |
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masak |
\o/ |
| 05:06 |
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masak |
std: sub syntax {}; sub error {}; my $x; "$x[syntax error]" |
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p6eval |
std a194beb: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 121m» |
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masak |
nom & |
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lue |
ohayo o/ |
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sorear |
TimToady: which is more correct - the speccish rules about bracketed postfix constructs, or the STDish rules about <EXPR(item %methodcall)> <?after <[ \] ) } > ]>> ? |
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colomon-droid |
o/ |
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TimToady |
sorear: I can't answer that until I know how they diverge |
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lue |
hai masak o/ |
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masak |
greetings, lue. |
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masak |
lue: how's the Pod hacking coming along? |
| 06:33 |
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lue |
thanks for turning me to theoatmeal.com, by the way |
| 06:33 |
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masak |
you're welcome :) |
| 06:33 |
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lue |
OK-ish. I think there's a flaw in my understanding of grammars .oO(I should make a blag toast) |
| 06:33 |
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masak |
also, you should publish your code. |
| 06:34 |
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masak |
whole or in parts. |
| 06:34 |
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masak |
every time I do that, good comes out of it in one way or other. |
| 06:34 |
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sorear |
===SORRY!=== Regex()<instance> at (eval) line 1 |
| 06:35 |
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masak |
it's official. sorear has now transformed into a Perl 6 compiler. |
| 06:36 |
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sorear |
hee. |
| 06:36 |
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sorear |
this stuff is breaking a lot |
| 06:36 |
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lue |
I will publish the problem code in my blog post (Although putting something on git that *doesn't work* seems silly to me, so not that kind of publishing.) |
| 06:36 |
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* lue |
writes blog post |
| 06:37 |
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masak |
lue: as soon as the first test passes -- which is, like, five minutes into coding, right? -- you have something that no longer doesn't work. :) |
| 06:37 |
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dalek |
niecza: 62645be | sorear++ | / (2 files): |
| 06:37 |
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dalek |
niecza: [v6] Add optional Niecza::Grammar use |
| 06:37 |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]3b684d2bc7e9e8a7b |
| 06:39 |
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masak |
sorear: how would you describe the current state of the niecza project? is there a file somewhere that describes the current state of the niecza project? |
| 06:40 |
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sorear |
in the past I'd been relying on test.pl for that |
| 06:40 |
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lue |
Let me say this: I haven't written a single test yet because there's nothing to test! :( |
| 06:41 |
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masak |
sorear: unless you're referring to a big comment header, that's not the level of accessibility I was referring to. |
| 06:41 |
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scp1 |
tests first! then more tests! the documenation, and then code! |
| 06:41 |
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masak |
lue: what scp1 said. |
| 06:41 |
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sorear |
TimToady: How is <blast> supposed to work? niecza is entering <blast> and immediately hitting <?before '{'> || <.panic: "Missing block">, and I can't see any reason why it *shouldn't* |
| 06:41 |
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masak |
lue: I see you have some TDD to learn and look forward to. when you do, I bet you'll like it. |
| 06:42 |
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scp1 |
It's awesome |
| 06:42 |
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masak |
it's even more awesome with something like tote. |
| 06:42 |
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masak |
oops. should have released tote by now... :/ |
| 06:42 |
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scp1 |
What's tote? |
| 06:42 |
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sorear |
masak: hrm. Is there a good example of what you're looking for in Rakudo? |
| 06:42 |
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masak |
scp1: http://strangelyconsistent.org[…]tive-tdd-on-crack |
| 06:43 |
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masak |
sorear: "Completed ROADMAP items" in https://github.com/rakudo/raku[…]ster/docs/ROADMAP |
| 06:44 |
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lue |
I have yet to take a formal CS class (the best offered at my high school is the usual "And this is how you open WORD! Word is used to WRITE PAPERS AND STUFF!!1!") |
| 06:44 |
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lue |
.u interrobang |
| 06:44 |
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phenny |
U+203D INTERROBANG (‽) |
| 06:45 |
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sorear |
TDD isn't taught in real CS classes anyway |
| 06:45 |
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masak |
lue: I don't have a formal CS background either. |
| 06:45 |
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scp1 |
masak, Cool, have you started hacking on it yet? :) |
| 06:45 |
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masak |
lue: and what sorear said. it's more of an engineering thing. |
| 06:45 |
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masak |
scp1: oh, I've used it privately for over a year now... |
| 06:46 |
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masak |
scp1: (it rocks) |
| 06:46 |
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scp1 |
heh, nice |
| 06:46 |
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scp1 |
I have yet to manage to _install_ rakudo though :C Still stuck with perl5 |
| 06:46 |
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masak |
it's actually a little bit dangerous, from the viewpoint of forgetting to eat etc. |
| 06:47 |
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scp1 |
masak, ooh... the world is small mate. god morgon ;) |
| 06:47 |
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masak |
I had tote set up to verbally reward me when I passed more tests. it says "checkpoint! yay!", which seems to trigger endorphin releases. |
| 06:47 |
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masak |
scp1: are you from .se? |
| 06:48 |
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scp1 |
masak, norrköping - I saw your github page |
| 06:48 |
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masak |
ooh. |
| 06:48 |
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masak |
uppsala here. |
| 06:50 |
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scp1 |
masak, you should push it, I want to see the source |
| 06:52 |
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masak |
I can make a gist. |
| 06:52 |
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masak |
it's still too tied to individual repositories, if I recall correctly. |
| 06:52 |
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masak |
oh yes. it hardcodes the files it's monitoring. |
| 06:53 |
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masak |
doesn't need to do that at all. but it does. |
| 06:53 |
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masak |
scp1: https://gist.github.com/709620 |
| 06:53 |
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scp1 |
using inotify I guess? |
| 06:54 |
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masak |
I wish. |
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masak |
seems I just poll modification times once every $SLEEP_TIME seconds. |
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scp1 |
Linux::Inotify2 is great (and inotify rocks) |
| 06:55 |
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masak |
also, when $loud is set, it uses the Mac OS X-specific command-line program 'say'. |
| 06:55 |
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masak |
scp1: yes. I've seen others use it for this purpose. |
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sorear |
masak: I'm writing up a prose status document now |
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masak |
sorear++ |
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sorear |
I'd like to get niecza into a state where I can sanely ANNOUNCE: it before Tues |
| 06:56 |
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sorear |
I'm not sure what that comprises though |
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sorear |
I've never done this "releasing" thing before |
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cheers sorear on |
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tadzik |
sorear: what's wrong about the entry? |
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sorear |
tadzik: most likely it doesn't exist |
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masak |
tadzik++ # http://ttjjss.wordpress.com/20[…]only-for-parsing/ |
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tadzik |
edenc++ and ruoso++ for coming up with the idea |
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tadzik |
sorear: https://github.com/parrot/parrot/commit/8e5d0aca8 here I am |
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tadzik |
oh wow, I'm mentioned on twitter again |
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http://www.reddit.com/r/progra[…]only_for_parsing/ |
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tadzik |
oh, someone courageous posted that on proggit |
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tadzik |
oh, hi moritz_ :) |
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sorear |
the problem may be your name. I hate encoding soup |
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moritz_ |
well, I might get a few downvotes, but I can cope with them :-) |
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* sorear |
debugs some more |
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masak |
morning, moritz_. |
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moritz_ |
mornin' |
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* sorear |
notices a lack of Encode:: calls in karmalog.pm |
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* lue |
almost done writing blag toast |
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lue |
ololblagtime! https://rdstar.wordpress.com/2[…]rn-cant%E2%80%BD/ |
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lue |
.oO(Hm. You'd think whatever controls URL encoding would've caught up to the 21st century by now...) |
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lue: first off, I would recommend always using || until the specific behavior of | is implemented in Rakudo. |
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masak |
lue: otherwise, when it finally is, all your code might break. |
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sorear |
lue: they have. it's quite specifically UTF-8 then encode bytes in here |
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sorear |
hex |
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lue |
I'm referring to the way the encode them in URLs (the funny % stuff). I don't know, see that gives me the (false?) impression it hasn't caught up. |
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masak |
lue: secondly, as a purely stylistic micro-optimization, prefer using comma (',') to tilde ('~') when printing several strings in a 'say' call. it creates fewer strings internally, is therefore marginally faster, and is easier on the eye. |
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lue |
from quick skimming of S05, | would require terms to match the same beginning and end point, while || doesn't, right? |
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masak |
no, that's not the difference. |
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masak |
| does LTM, || does strict left-to-right. |
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masak |
lue: you have a variable called $file in the sub 'importformat'. it seems to contain the slurped contents of the file. this qualifies as confusing naming to me. YMMV. |
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masak |
lue: your file test.pod sounds like a genuinely good idea. I don't think you should remove it as soon as things work. |
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lue |
well, at least its current incarnation as a file in the top directory. (maybe expand & mv to t/ ?) |
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masak |
lue: here's why the line '=begin Text' doesn't match <directive><delimited>: the string 'Text' doesn't march the rule <blocktype> |
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masak |
(and boy would I sometimes like to have debug output that told me such debug information about my grammars) |
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masak |
HTH |
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lue |
*bangs head on nearby bangheadworthy object* |
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masak |
told you that more eyeballs would help :) |
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masak |
lue++ # blagging |
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dalek |
niecza: 72c4e12 | sorear++ | docs/ (2 files): |
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dalek |
niecza: [docs] prose status, more LHF stuff |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]6a2c2c3823a914f21 |
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sorear |
masak: I'd like you to look at blob/master/docs/DIRECTIONS and tell me if that's what you wanted |
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lue |
.oO(those ++'s look like bangheadworthy objects...) |
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TimToady |
sorear: blast has an alternation of <block> | <statement>, and should never LTM into block unless it starts with the '{' from the <?before '{'> |
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sorear |
Shouldn't the || stop LTM |
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sorear |
in <block> |
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TimToady |
only for the right side of the || |
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masak |
sorear: looking. |
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sorear |
Does [A || B] in general make exactly the same LTM as A? |
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TimToady |
yes |
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TimToady |
in this case, it can never call B via LTM |
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TimToady |
it's only there if you call <block> outside of an LTM |
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TimToady |
in that case it might fail the || |
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sorear |
I had it that way earlier - it ran into issues with [ [A || B] | C ] |
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sorear |
which will never match B |
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sorear |
because LTM sees that neither [A || B] nor C has B as a prefix, and so tries neither |
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TimToady |
that's correct behavior |
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masak |
sorear: DIRECTIONS -- very nice. just what I was looking for. |
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TimToady |
in that particular case, we could warn that B is unreachable |
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sorear |
so, concretely, "b" !~~ / [ [ a || b ] | c ] / ? |
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correct, that's how STD does LTM |
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TimToady |
in the block case, we can get to it by multiple paths |
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TimToady |
std: default 42 |
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p6eval |
std a194beb: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0mMissing block at /tmp/WuUqaJdQ3d line 1:------> default ⏏42Parse failedFAILED 00:01 117m» |
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makes a one-line change to RxOp::SeqAlt::lad and runs the test |
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scp1 |
masak, I've started to implement it with inotify. Nice idea btw. |
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sorear |
+s |
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TimToady |
std: lazy |
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std a194beb: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0mBogus statement at /tmp/0jnDc4vQ4u line 1 (EOF):------> lazy⏏<EOL>Parse failedFAILED 00:01 119m» |
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TimToady |
that's dropping into <statement> instead of <block> |
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TimToady |
whereas the default case is requiring a block by calling <block> directly |
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masak |
scp1: cool. let me know how it goes. |
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sorear |
looks like I added the test on Sep 7 00:23 |
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checks the irclogs |
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lue |
.oO(As the clock struck midnight, lue wondered if sleep is something he should fight. He thought, .oO(Oh, plenty fine I'll be, cos I've got plenty o' caffeine!)) |
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sorear |
TimToady: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl[…]0-09-07#i_2793271 |
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sorear |
also, this is why a testsuite is awesome |
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sorear |
I know I made the decision for || to kill LTM on purpose |
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sorear |
so I git blame the test suite and it tells me exactly when I made that decision |
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yes, well, STD very much assumes that the LTM of A||B is the LTM of A |
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masak |
sorear: the Internet is not just some truck that I can dump stuff on. but backlog, RT, source repository, test suite and other similar digital containers are. I use them as only slightly detached extensions of my nervous system. |
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* sorear |
has been known to use "bionic memory" to refer to irclogs |
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masak |
this is why p6eval is perhaps the most important bot around, too. its technological innovation is in some sense secondary to its social contribution: it brings Actual Code and its evaluation into the IRC conversation. |
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TimToady |
note that STD's behavior is in fact specced at S05:2607 |
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TimToady |
s/specced/specced (poorly)/ # :) |
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moritz_ |
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=872809 # it seems that for some developers it's REALLY hard to distinguis between a language and a compiler |
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frettled |
They wouldn't be Perl 5 users, by any chance? :) |
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masak |
lue: in your blog header, what does "Rakudo Star release 0" mean? as far as I know, there never was a release 0, and besides we're already on the fourth-soon-fifth release. |
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sorear |
ok. blasts work. |
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dalek |
niecza: b85fe1c | sorear++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
niecza: Revert 4819d25 - STD depends on opposite behavior |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]4c279251d1c10a287 |
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masak |
moritz_: the Update part of the top post is very cute, though. :) |
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masak |
moritz_: if one "can't hardly wait", does that mean that one has almost no problem waiting? :P |
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moritz_ |
:-) |
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lue |
I need to change that, too lazy right now though :) [I will create a special one for 23 Nov. that'll be created to last around 1 year] |
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moritz_ |
\o/ http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=872821 other monks now start with Perl 6 replies :-) |
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lue |
masak: release 0 was one way it was called initially [zero-indexing you know] |
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masak |
lue: I have no memory of that. but you may be right. |
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sorear |
masak: there is dialectal variation on the interpretation of double negatives in English, so it's best to avoid them in prose intended to be portable. |
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masak |
sorear: but sometimes, I can't not use them... |
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lue |
moritz_: I suddenly get an image of Catholicism and Protestantism, only s/Catholicism/Perl 5/ and s/Protestantism/Perl 6/ :) |
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masak |
"(Wow, I got the Perl 6 reply in before moritz!)" # :D |
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sorear |
you can still introduce infix:<Z> |
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masak |
I was thinking the same. |
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moritz_ |
I was wondering if I should :-) |
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masak |
except it doesn't work as a list-assoc infix in Rakudo :( |
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moritz_ |
zip() doesn't work either |
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masak |
alpha: 1,2,3 Z 4,5,6 Z 7,8,9; say "alive" |
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p6eval |
alpha : OUTPUT«alive» |
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masak |
rakudo: 1,2,3 Z 4,5,6 Z 7,8,9; say "alive" |
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rakudo : OUTPUT«No applicable candidates found to dispatch to for 'infix:<Z>'. Available candidates are::():(Any $lhs, Any $rhs) in main program body at line 22:/tmp/C9tNScxicR» |
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sorear |
I think this is the first time I've seen spam on perlmonks |
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moritz_ |
not the first time for me :( |
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frettled |
lue: But are we talking about the People's Front for the Liberation Palestine, or the Popular Palestinian Liberation Front? |
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TimToady |
zzz & |
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z |
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frettled |
ZzzZ? |
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lue |
The Front for the Liberation of Palestinian People of course! |
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lue |
I think I've burned my eyeballs and relevant portions of my brain for tonight. Goodnight o/ |
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sorear |
and I've just utterly broken STD with that last push |
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frettled |
lue: Z tight |
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sorear |
my module Foo { } # Unable to parse module definition |
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sorear |
actually, it's trying to parse Foo as the block |
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sorear |
module { } # still works. I guess I broke <longname> |
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sorear |
also broken: also is Foo; $Foo (but $! fine). All signs point to longname |
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masak |
moritz_: by the way, I'm .25 through http://www.fanfiction.net/s/57[…]ds_of_Rationality -- it's way above my (admittedly unfounded) expectations on fanfic. |
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moritz_ |
masak: I'm through all the chapters now (finished on Saturday), and waiting for the next chapter :-) |
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masak |
it's still in progress? I'll read slowly, then :) |
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moritz_ |
but it's close to the end, I think |
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moritz_ |
it's 60 chapters now, and maybe 2 more to go |
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masak |
oh, ok. |
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moritz_ |
it contains a lot of spoilers if you don't know all 7 books |
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masak |
luckily, I finished the last book right before I went to see the first last movie :) |
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masak |
I've had that as a tradition, to pre-read the books lazily. |
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* moritz_ |
saw the movie yesterday |
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moritz_ |
not bad, IMHO |
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moritz_ |
I found it funny how Harry is supposed to see nearly nothing without his glasses, but you can look straight through the glasses without any distortions :-) |
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HarryS |
he got laser correction |
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HarryS |
off-camera |
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masak |
he's just pretending to be near-blind without them. simplest explanation. |
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moritz_ |
there's even a scene that's blurred before he puts on the glasses |
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moritz_: after reading part of the fanfic, it amuses me that your only nit seems to be about some refraction index or other. :P |
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moritz_ |
masak: I'm currently supervising a lab experiment about lenses :-) |
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moritz_ |
there were other nits too, but most are really minor |
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moritz_ |
masak: have you read about the safety rules for transfiguration already? |
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masak |
moritz_: yes, last chapter. |
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moritz_ |
masak: in the "order of the phoenix" movie Dumbledore turns some attacking magic by Voldemort into water :-) |
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masak |
hah :) |
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moritz_ |
(for the innocent bystanders: transfiguring things into liquids and gases is strictly forbidden, because transfigurations are not permanent, and it will harm life if some part of the body suddenly turns into something else) |
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token alpha { <+INTERNAL::alpha+[_]> \w* } # Spot the bug |
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moritz_ |
not too hard :-) |
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class Bug { has $.name }; my Bug $bug .= new( :name<Spot> }; # Spot the bug! :) |
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} not ) |
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masak |
oops. |
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moritz_ |
that's what you get for not testing the code you show us :-) |
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jnthn |
Let me guess. That was not the bug you were looking for. ;) |
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wasn't meaning to introduce an actual bug, just to make a bad pun. |
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niecza: 4dc0dbe | sorear++ | lib/Cursor.cs: |
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dalek |
niecza: Subrule entry/exit for RX trace |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]ffddeff741fe290dd |
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dalek |
niecza: 28f112a | sorear++ | / (3 files): |
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dalek |
niecza: Fix stupid bug in alpha |
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niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]dd8f8b9a1de17c71b |
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more breakage - q"foo" -> Undeclared routine |
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moritz_ |
niecza: say q"foo" |
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niecza 28f112a: OUTPUT«foo» |
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moritz_: EWRONGMETALEVEL |
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sorear: thought so |
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niecza is miscompiling the STD parser |
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actually at this point it looks like a runtime bug |
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niecza: 4b8ffc9 | sorear++ | lib/Cursor.cs: |
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dalek |
niecza: Fix <.ws> LTM |
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niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]ea864fc5924a6e6a6 |
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MindosCheng |
\o/ |
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moritz_ |
/o\ |
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moritz_ |
(rainy day here, need my arms for protection) |
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tadzik |
:) |
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moritz_: its actually snow here |
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lichtkind |
have to protect my herbs in the garden a bid |
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moritz_ |
when you go to work by bike, snow is less annoying than rain |
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moritz_: true |
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moritz_: will you come to frankfurt? |
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moritz_ |
lichtkind: when? |
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moritz_ |
(though the answer is most likely "no" anyway) |
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tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]6_variable_tablet |
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* MindosCheng |
living in Tropical and subtropical for most of his life. |
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moritz_: http://wiki.perl-community.de/[…]Workshop2010#Wann |
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moritz_ |
so, upcoming weekend |
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lichtkind |
yes |
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moritz_ |
negative; too much to do |
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lichtkind |
moritz_: i understand that one :) |
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moritz_: but i have friends in ffm so have several reasons |
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lichtkind |
who is responsible for http://try.rakudo.org/ ? |
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lichtkind |
please add http://perl6.org/documentation/ in the link section below |
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lichtkind |
dalek: tell cygx please add http://perl6.org/documentation/ in the link section below on http://try.rakudo.org/ |
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lichtkind |
@dalek tell cygx please add http://perl6.org/documentation/ in the link section below on http://try.rakudo.org/ |
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lambdabot |
Unknown command, try @list |
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lichtkind |
dalek tell cygx please add http://perl6.org/documentation/ in the link section below on http://try.rakudo.org/ |
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moritz_ |
lambdabot? didn't we kick and ban that spammy bot for good? |
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moritz_ |
lichtkind: I've added the link to the template. The next update from source should get it |
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lichtkind |
thank you |
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jnthn |
evening, #perl6 |
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lichtkind |
jnthn: greets |
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ahoj, lichtkind |
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lichtkind |
ciau |
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lichtkind |
jnthn: i want you to interview again for the perl 6 history tablet |
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jnthn |
lichtkind: interview...uh-oh. :) |
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lichtkind |
dont worry i dont boost your ego just extract some vital infos for the docs :) |
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rakudo: my (@foo, @bar); @foo.cross(@bar) |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«Method 'cross' not found for invocant of class 'Array' in main program body at line 22:/tmp/Ly4m3WwZjn» |
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tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]6_variable_tablet |
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colomon |
.cross? |
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lichtkind |
colomon: http://perlcabal.org/syn/S03.html#Cross_operators |
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colomon |
huh. I don't think we implemented it that way.... |
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colomon: I didn't think tehre was a .cross method either. |
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tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]rl_6_delta_tablet |
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colomon |
what sort of object is (<a b>; 1,2)? lol? |
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suspects the spec has changed since we implemented Xop.... |
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I think it used to be a Slicel, but... :) |
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jnthn |
Maybe now it's a Lol |
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:) |
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lichtkind |
perl 6 gets much more funny revently |
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lichtkind |
recently |
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tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]rl_6_delta_tablet |
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Tene |
phenny: tell cygx please add http://perl6.org/documentation/ in the link section below on http://try.rakudo.org/ |
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phenny |
Tene: I'll pass that on when cygx is around. |
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dalek |
rakudo: 90cb844 | moritz++ | / (4 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo: [conf] rename revision comparison module |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/raku[…]d8de03c025a9976b1 |
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sorear |
81.95%, 54m 45s... |
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sorear |
good * #perl6 |
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lue |
hello o/ |
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lichtkind |
Tene: thnaks but moritz done this already :) |
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lichtkind |
lue: hi |
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sorear |
@part #perl6 |
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diakopter |
heh |
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sorear |
moritz_: please don't waste perfectly good ban slots on lambdabot, not while I have an admin bit on it anyhow |
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TimToady |
now that sorear++ is drawing within 9% of STD, I'd better start hacking on the std STD some more... :) |
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colomon |
;) |
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tpfwiki: (Herbert Breunung)++ | http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]6_variable_tablet |
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sorear: uhm, don't we have plenty of free ban slots? |
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nqp: sub foo(:$x) { say($x // 'ok'); }; foo(); |
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p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«ok» |
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diakopter |
nqpnet: sub foo(:$x) { say($x // 'ok'); }; foo(); |
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p6eval |
nqpnet: OUTPUT«Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at NQPOutput_1290459063.block_6 (Rakudo.Runtime.ThreadContext TC, Rakudo.Metamodel.RakudoObject Block, Rakudo.Metamodel.RakudoObject Capture) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:… |
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needs to make those failures less noisy |
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lc() |
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diakopter |
nqpnet: Capture.new.bind_pos(0, 4); |
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nqpnet: OUTPUT«Unhandled Exception: System.InvalidOperationException: No such method bind_pos at Rakudo.Metamodel.KnowHOW.KnowHOWBootstrapper.<Bootstrap>m__7 (Rakudo.Runtime.ThreadContext TC, Rakudo.Metamodel.RakudoObject Ignored, Rakudo.Metamodel.RakudoObject Cap) [0x00000] in <filename unkno… |
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dalek |
6model: 3400d13 | jonathan++ | dotnet/runtime/Runtime/Signatures/SignatureBinder.cs: |
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dalek |
6model: [dotnet] Fix vivification/default values on named parameters. |
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dalek |
6model: review: https://github.com/jnthn/6mode[…]6949f37711cc81175 |
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diakopter: |
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jnthn |
$!cap := nqp::instance_of(NQPCapture); |
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jnthn |
s/NQPCapture/self/ |
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diakopter |
but I don't want that |
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diakopter |
I want an NQPCapture |
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oh...sorry, I mis-read |
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jnthn |
The issue is that in new you don't have an object yet |
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jnthn |
So this is setting $!cap in the type object. |
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diakopter |
oh, I see; build needs called |
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jnthn |
Which should probably explode. |
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diakopter |
oh I see the problem |
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diakopter |
new() *must* return self |
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jnthn |
Yes |
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diakopter |
ran into this other places too |
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moritz_ |
.bless NYI? |
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jnthn |
moritz_: or BUILDALL... |
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TimToady |
diakopter: eh? you mean the new self, not the invocant of the new method |
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nqpnet: my $x := NQPCapture.new; $x[0] := 42; say($x[0]); |
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nqpnet: OUTPUT«Unhandled Exception: System.InvalidOperationException: No such method new at Rakudo.Metamodel.KnowHOW.KnowHOWBootstrapper.<Bootstrap>m__7 (Rakudo.Runtime.ThreadContext TC, Rakudo.Metamodel.RakudoObject Ignored, Rakudo.Metamodel.RakudoObject Cap) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0… |
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hmm |
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diakopter: Does that work for you locally? |
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diakopter: oh, fails for me locally too. |
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lue |
ohayo o/ |
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sorear |
std: { my $x = 1 } |
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std a194beb: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties: $x is declared but not used at /tmp/_MpplE2J2a line 1:------> { my $x⏏ = 1 }ok 00:01 121m» |
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\o |
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6model: f531f67 | jonathan++ | dotnet/compiler/Actions.pm: |
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6model: [dotnet] Until we're bootstrapped and can introspect, need to keep list of things declared in the setting so they're known as lexical; add NQPCapture to this list. |
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dalek |
6model: review: https://github.com/jnthn/6mode[…]00c3bed236dfcc735 |
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masak |
\o/ |
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jnthn |
/o\ |
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jnthn |
:) |
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lue |
\0/ |
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jnthn |
No need to be big-headed... |
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lue |
\./ # Fine. Have it your way, jnthn :) |
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masak |
now that's adaptability. |
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diakopter |
\O/ |
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diakopter |
what's the O with the two dots over it |
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jnthn |
Head inflamed due to mosquito bites |
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lue |
a butterfly :) |
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TimToady |
diakopter: *you* last set the topic; you tell us |
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diakopter |
I mean the capital O |
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Tene |
diakopter: Ö |
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Tene |
.u Ö |
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phenny |
U+004F LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O (O) |
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phenny |
U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS (◌̈) |
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Tene |
is how I type it, at least |
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diakopter |
oo |
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diakopter |
\oo/ |
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Tene |
.u Ö |
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phenny |
U+00D6 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS (Ö) |
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Tene |
is an option too |
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diakopter |
\Ö/ |
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masak |
Tintin: \δ/ |
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lue |
***we now return to our regularly scheduled 0x7F and lower codepoints. Hopefully.*** |
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lue |
Tim und Struppi! [as they're called in the German version of the comics] |
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diakopter |
"Cellar Door" |
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lue |
rakudo: my @a = <. 1 2 . 3 4>; my @b; for @a { if $_ == "." { @b.push(""); } elsif $_ ~~ /\d/ { @b[*-1] ~= $_; };}; say @b.perl; |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«["12", "34"]» |
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sorear |
TimToady: What are the other elements of $*FILE? |
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diakopter |
rakudo: my @a = <. 1 2 . 3 4>; my @b; for @a { if $_ ~~ /\d/ { @b[*-1] ~= $_ }}; say @b.perl |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«Cannot modify readonly value in '&infix:<=>' at line 1 in <anon> at line 22:/tmp/e9ai7QPP9B in main program body at line 1» |
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my class C { has $.type; has $.stuff; method HAI($a) { $.stuff ~= $a };}; my @a = <. 1 2 . 3 4>; my C @b; for @a { if $_ == "." { @b.push(C.new(:type('.'))); } elsif $_ ~~ /\d/ { @b[*-1].HAI($_); };}; say @b.perl; |
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lue |
rakudo: my class C { has $.type; has $.stuff; method HAI($a) { $.stuff ~= $a };}; my @a = <. 1 2 . 3 4>; my C @b; for @a { if $_ == "." { @b.push(C.new(:type('.'))); } elsif $_ ~~ /\d/ { @b[*-1].HAI($_); };}; say @b.perl; |
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p6eval |
rakudo : OUTPUT«(timeout)» |
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dalek |
niecza: 36db696 | sorear++ | v6/tryfile: |
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dalek |
niecza: [v6] fix canonicalize_name for GLOBAL::<$foo> |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]18c7cbf32dca19358 |
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dalek |
niecza: 05d77c1 | sorear++ | v6/tryfile: |
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dalek |
niecza: [v6] fix labels, Z+, X+ |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]3ce9cdb0558c15d0e |
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lue |
https://gist.github.com/710830 this fits in the module I described yesterday. The problem is that the @.parsetree array ends up containing an object for each line in the file test.pod, instead of two objects for each block. |
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dalek-poller: 847cbe7 | sorear++ | push.psgi: |
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dalek |
dalek-poller: Save copies of GitHub announce packets |
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dalek |
dalek-poller: review: https://github.com/sorear/dale[…]a2f369a580e1eb4f3 |
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lue |
can anyone check it out for me? From what I did in p6eval above, it seems to be a problem with the object rather than the loop. |
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sorear |
first off, has Pea @.foo is BAD |
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sorear |
type constraints and @ don't mix yet |
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sorear |
tadzik: I think I see the problem |
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sorear |
JSON::XS automatically decodes UTF-8 input |
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sorear |
the CREDITS parser doesnt' |
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sorear |
so karmalog is comparing your name as a byte string (in CREDITS) to your name as a character string (in the commit packet) |
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sorear |
perl5-- # for making $bytestring eq $charstring silently DTWT |
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masak |
sorear: I hear they're thinking of fixing that in the subsequent major version. |
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masak |
oops. maybe let's not go there, on second thought. again. |
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masak |
sorear: I hear they're thinking of doing it in some other way in Perl 6. :) |
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sorear |
masak: I'd be interested to hear /how/ |
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masak |
sorear: by keeping a clear separation between sequences-of-chars and their encodings as sequences-of-ints. |
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sorear |
I understand you've done some work on this |
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masak |
where 'char' has some more formal definition, maybe 'grapheme'. |
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masak |
sorear: yes, I did GSoC work on the latter type, Buf. |
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masak |
sorear: this might clarify some aspects of it: http://strangelyconsistent.org[…]hink-i-get-it-now |
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sorear |
jul 09? didn't know sc.org was that old |
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masak |
it isn't. |
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masak |
I imported ~200 posts from use.perl when starting it. |
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Tene |
sorear: It's been around for forever; it just used to go by its acronym, SCO. It was involved with a lawsuit recently, which prompted the name adjustment. |
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* masak |
would prefer not to talk about that |
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masak |
in other news, if you're using Linux you have to pay me license money. |
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lue |
noooo! |
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masak |
just kidding. that kind of trick is so 2003. |
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lue |
in the gist I put up earlier, I think method addline($stuffz) is to blame. |
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lue |
I'll look at it later, maybe it'll make sense then. afk |
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dalek |
dalek-poller: 395a68f | sorear++ | modules/local/karmalog.pm: |
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dalek |
dalek-poller: Add ad-hoc github link shortening |
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dalek |
dalek-poller: review: https://github.com/sorear/dale[…]4c40f1a85eb2db205 |
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dalek |
niecza: f958e9c | sorear++ | / (3 files): |
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dalek |
niecza: Implement :i "str" / <sym> |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]020d33fc1cdef6506 |
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masak |
rakudo: sub foo($a, %h?) { bar($a, %h) }; sub bar($a, %h?) { say "alive!" }; foo(42) |
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rakudo : OUTPUT«Method 'HOW' not found for invocant of class 'Hash' in 'bar' at line 1 in 'bar' at line 22:/tmp/dkqeNBk8Hm in 'foo' at line 22:/tmp/dkqeNBk8Hm in main program body at line 22:/tmp/dkqeNBk8Hm» |
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masak |
rakudo: sub foo($a, %h?) { say %h.WHAT }; foo(42) |
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rakudo : OUTPUT«Method 'WHAT' not found for invocant of class 'Hash' in 'foo' at line 22:/tmp/qK5WsYzzEI in main program body at line 22:/tmp/qK5WsYzzEI» |
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* masak |
submits rakudobug |
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colomon |
masak++ |
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masak |
bug brought to you courtesy of a November being brought back from the Mostly Dead. |
