Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2011-03-21

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07:39 dalek roast: 23dd517 | moritz++ | S10-packages/basic.t:
07:39 dalek roast: [S10] relax error message recogniion a bit
07:39 dalek roast: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/23dd517877
07:40 dalek rakudo: 76425ab | moritz++ | src/ (11 files):
07:40 dalek rakudo: Unify "Can't" and "Can not" and "Cannot" in error messages to "Cannot"
07:40 dalek rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/76425aba89
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07:46 dalek std: 430e3d6 | moritz++ | / (4 files):
07:46 dalek std: s/Can't/Cannot/g
07:46 dalek std: review: https://github.com/perl6/std/commit/430e3d68b0
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09:03 dalek niecza: d6ca04a | moritz++ | / (4 files):
09:03 dalek niecza: unify error messages to use "Cannot"
09:03 dalek niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niecza/commit/d6ca04a1aa
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09:07 moritz_ hugme: list projects
09:07 hugme moritz_: I know about Math-Model, Math-RungeKutta, MiniDBI, bench-scripts, book, gge, hugme, ilbot, java2perl6, json, modules.perl6.org, november, nqp-rx, nqpbook, perl6, perl6-examples, perl6-wtop, proto, pugs, rakudo, star, svg-matchdumper, svg-plot, tardis, try.rakudo.org, tufte, ufo, web, yapsi
09:08 moritz_ hugme: add moritz to yapsi
09:08 * hugme hugs moritz. Welcome to yapsi!
09:08 * jdhore hugs hugme
09:08 jdhore nothing
09:08 jdhore OK
09:08 dalek yapsi: 423894a | moritz++ | lib/Yapsi.pm:
09:08 dalek yapsi: regularize error messages to use "Cannot"
09:08 dalek yapsi: review: https://github.com/masak/yapsi/commit/423894a104
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10:45 moritz_ .u ω
10:45 phenny U+03C9 GREEK SMALL LETTER OMEGA (ω)
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12:14 Layla_91 yaw o/
12:16 moritz_ \o
12:16 dalek roast: 4806917 | moritz++ | S05-mass/recursive.t:
12:16 dalek roast: [recursive.t] niecza++ implements LTM, and thus detected that this test was wrong. Fixed by changing | to ||
12:16 dalek roast: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/4806917206
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12:17 dalek niecza: 3cc93a7 | moritz++ | t/spectest.data:
12:17 dalek niecza: anoter passing test file
12:17 dalek niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niecza/commit/3cc93a70de
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12:21 * moritz_ should learn to spel before committing
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12:30 Layla_91 jnthn: ping?
12:32 Layla_91 erm.. coming back soon..
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18:11 donri any point in building parrot/rakudo with --optimize?
18:11 dukeleto donri: yes, if you want it to run faster
18:12 dukeleto donri: build time increases slightly, it will run faster, and occasionally find a bug in a compiler
18:13 donri ok thanks
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20:48 moritz_ donri: --gen-parrot automatically adds --optimize
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21:22 masak lol hi zebras
21:22 mberends \o masak
21:22 * masak got room 314 o/
21:23 masak rakudo: floor pi * 100
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21:23 p6eval rakudo 76425a:  ( no output )
21:23 masak rakudo: say floor pi * 100
21:23 tadzik hello zebra :)
21:23 p6eval rakudo 76425a: OUTPUT«314␤»
21:23 masak the room is an odd mixture of new elements and decades-old infrastructure.
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21:26 masak I don't know if I've told y'all, but I'm doing a Perl 6 kata in public tomorrow.
21:26 masak not at GoOpen per se, but at a meetup later in the evening.
21:28 tadzik Perl 6 kata?
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21:31 masak right. there's four of us, each doing the same kata in some language.
21:31 masak the other three are doing it in Ruby, Java, and JavaScript.
21:32 masak this is all thanks to sjn++, who got me over to GoOpen and put me in the kata session.
21:32 tadzik so a set of educational exercises?
21:32 masak the concept 'kata' is from martial arts, IIUC.
21:32 masak it's a set of simple movements that you do over and over again.
21:33 masak their purpose is not to push the limits so much as to practice the basics.
21:34 masak here's the kata we're going to do: http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?KataMinesweeper
21:34 masak the time limit is 15-20 minutes.
21:35 masak (per person; we're going one after the other)
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21:39 masak moritz_++ # Yes We Cannot
21:41 moritz_ even yapsi cannot
21:41 masak it can't "can't"
21:44 masak so, anyway. I ran through the kata for the first time on the plane here. at minute 29 I got to the nice refactorings. :)
21:44 masak more speed. I need it.
21:45 masak I think I might have wasted some speed in the first run thinking about data structures.
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22:03 TimToady http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Minesweeper_game#Perl_6
22:05 * shortcircuit should create a 'hunt the wumpus' task.
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22:11 mberends rakudo: my $t1=now.to-posix[0]; my $t2=now.to-posix[0];($t2-$t1).fmt("%7.6f").say;
22:11 p6eval rakudo 76425a: OUTPUT«0.298105␤»
22:11 mberends rakudo: my $t1=pir::time__N; my $t2=pir::time__N;($t2-$t1).fmt("%7.6f").say;
22:11 p6eval rakudo 76425a: OUTPUT«0.000190␤»
22:12 mberends 190 microseconds versus 298 milliseconds - not good
22:13 mberends this is the cause of my spectest slowdown panic - my own stopwatch change :/
22:14 mberends I'll revert the change soon, with source code comments explaining why
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22:17 masak TimToady: thanks. the kata is actually a lot easier than that, though. there's no KaBoom. :)
22:17 masak shortcircuit: if you do, make sure it's on a real randomized dodecahedron! ;)
22:18 masak TimToady: oh, *that's* where I saw that nice neighbour for loop! I was groping for it today on the plane.
22:18 masak I'm hoping to be able to build up to that.
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22:32 masak whoa! there's a balcony! o.O
22:32 mberends pi in the sky?
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22:34 masak sure, if you're referring to the enlarged moon... :P
22:34 mberends mmm, green cheez
22:41 masak my mind is just spinning its wheels. I think it wants sleep.
22:41 masak 'night, #perl6.
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22:42 mberends o/ masak
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22:55 dalek rakudo: 841b2cb | mberends++ | Test.pm:
22:55 dalek rakudo: [Test.pm] read real time clock with pir::time__N instead of now.to-posix[0] because the latter is very much slower
22:55 dalek rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/841b2cbf18
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