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jnthn |
morning o/ |
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moritz |
\o morning |
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jnthn |
Wow. 'twas quiet overnight... |
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* moritz |
received two emails regarding the IRC logs overnight |
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jnthn |
Oh. Not so quiet there then. :) |
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dalek |
rakudo: 7114f56 | moritz++ | build/PARROT_REVISION: |
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dalek |
rakudo: bump PARROT_REVISION to get some testing on recent birds |
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dalek |
rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/7114f56615 |
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* colomon |
is dangerously close to proposing that p6 needs an Fop meta operator... |
| 11:39 |
jnthn |
Oh Feq... |
| 11:40 |
moritz |
colomon: what should it do? |
| 11:40 |
colomon |
convert both operands to FatRats. :) |
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moritz |
eeks. |
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donri |
can has fap operator? |
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tadzik |
no please, no unicode in this one. I know there's a character for everything... |
| 11:58 |
moritz |
.u fap |
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phenny |
U+A0D4 YI SYLLABLE FAP (ꃔ) |
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jnthn |
.oO( phew! ) |
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takadonet |
morning all |
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moritz |
.u ♺ |
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phenny |
U+267A RECYCLING SYMBOL FOR GENERIC MATERIALS (♺) |
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lola_91 |
holy_cow came.. holy_cow left.. and nobody is here :| |
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Moukeddar_ |
layla again :) |
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moritz |
holy cow! |
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lola_91 |
moritz: did you see that username? :D |
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lola_91 |
Moukeddar_: yup! :D |
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moritz |
lola_91: no, I ignore joins/leaves/quits/renames in here, there are far too many of them |
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Moukeddar_ |
hilarious |
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Moukeddar_ |
in xna there is waldo_xxx |
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lola_91 |
lool :D |
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Moukeddar_ |
i didn't know waldo was into porn |
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Moukeddar_ |
moritz, how to ignore them ? |
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moritz |
Moukeddar_: depends on the client |
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moritz |
/IGNORE #perl6 ALL -PUBLIC -ACTIONS |
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moritz |
in irssi |
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lola_91 |
moritz: sometimes it is funny to do something absolutely useless.. :) like just walking by sea side.. |
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lola_91 |
moritz: wait.. I find that useful.. I take my words back :p |
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moritz |
lola_91: your picture of me might not be quite accurate :-) |
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Moukeddar_ |
done ,thanks moritz |
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lola_91 |
moritz: I know, I just force you to stop hiding it ;) |
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jnthn |
grrrrr...Russian visas are a darn nuisance to get... :/ |
| 13:22 |
lola_91 |
jnthn: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
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Moukeddar_ |
moritz, be careful |
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Moukeddar_ |
gurls are dangerous :) |
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lola_91 |
jnthn: when are you going? |
| 13:23 |
jnthn |
lola_91: Flying on Thursday next week, all being well. |
| 13:23 |
lola_91 |
eh... :( |
| 13:23 |
moritz |
Moukeddar_: yes, and so are men :-) |
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lola_91 |
jnthn: have fun :) |
| 13:23 |
jnthn |
lola_91: Provided I didn't screw up the visa papers... |
| 13:24 |
lola_91 |
jnthn: everything is getting harder a bit.. even for my little brother who was not born in Russia, we hardly got him a passport.. |
| 13:26 |
Moukeddar_ |
what ? |
| 13:26 |
Moukeddar_ |
i'm not dangerous |
| 13:26 |
jnthn |
lola_91: Not fun :( |
| 13:27 |
moritz |
Moukeddar_: you are dangerous, if you have enough relative velocity to another human :-) |
| 13:27 |
lola_91 |
jnthn: heeeeeeey! you can make it fun if you want! When I ws in Russian last time I had so much fun! :D walking, visiting famous places.. seeing people.. :) beer for u :P :D |
| 13:28 |
jnthn |
lola_91: Oh, being in Russia is great fun! |
| 13:28 |
jnthn |
lola_91: It's getting the visa that is annoying. |
| 13:28 |
lola_91 |
jnthn: ah that is true.. :\ |
| 13:29 |
jnthn |
lola_91: Spent most of today so far just working that out...getting all the papers done and sent. :| |
| 13:29 |
lola_91 |
sometimes we had to wait for 30-40 days for a simple paper! :\ but I hope for you it will be better :) |
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lola_91 |
jnthn: ah! our choclate is not bad too ^_^ |
| 13:30 |
jnthn |
If I have to wait that long I'll miss YAPC... :/ |
| 13:30 |
jnthn |
lola_91: You and chocolate! :P |
| 13:31 |
lola_91 |
jnthn: and mmm.. there is that thing we call...mmm.. zefer... dunno in english :S |
| 13:31 |
tadzik |
do we need a visa for YAPC? |
| 13:31 |
jnthn |
tadzik: YAPC::Europe? No |
| 13:31 |
tadzik |
whew |
| 13:31 |
jnthn |
YAPC::Russia? Yes. |
| 13:31 |
BinGOs |
In Soviet Russia, visa needs you! |
| 13:31 |
jnthn |
:P |
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lola_91 |
jnthn: I live on chocolate.. :P |
| 13:32 |
jnthn |
lola_91: Healthy living... :) |
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Moukeddar_ |
in soviet russia jokes , pretty funny |
| 13:33 |
* jnthn |
lives on more than beer. Beer is nice, but there's just too many other tasty things too :) |
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lola_91 |
jnthn: i was kidding about beer :P i also try to eat useful things since am kinda need to gain weight :s |
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lola_91 |
time to go... have fun all! :D |
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jnthn |
bye, lola_91 o/ |
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uvtc |
I see that jnthn++ has been putting lots of work into npq. Does Rakudo use this newer npq yet? |
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masak |
o/ |
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colomon |
\o |
| 17:05 |
colomon |
uvtc: no |
| 17:06 |
uvtc |
Is Rakudo written in nqp? |
| 17:06 |
colomon |
I believe jnthn++ is hoping to get a little more done before he (or better yet, we) starts migrating Rakudo to it. |
| 17:06 |
masak |
uvtc: and C. and PIR. and Perl 6. |
| 17:06 |
jnthn |
uvtc: rakudo/nom branch is where that work will be done. |
| 17:07 |
jnthn |
I'm REALLY close with the nqp changes now. |
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jnthn |
o/ masak |
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masak |
\o |
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jnthn |
uvtc: The Rakudo grammar and actions are currently written in NQP, and some module loading bits are. |
| 17:08 |
jnthn |
uvtc: In rakudo/nom, those will stay in NQP. Also the main compiler object will be in NQP, the meta-objects will be in NQP also. |
| 17:09 |
jnthn |
The current set of PIR built-ins will largely go away. Any PIR that stays will get wrapped in a Perl 6 body. There won't be any pure PIR files that we compile in Rakudo. It'll be just NQP, Perl 6 (in the setting), C (dynops, dynpmcs) and the odd bit of PIR in method bodies. |
| 17:10 |
masak |
wut? http://www.perldonate.com/ |
| 17:10 |
masak |
"The fact of the matter is you have to be a really good programmer in Perl and C, and have knowledge of the way many other languages work, to be able to make a useful contribution to Perl development." -- emphatically not. |
| 17:10 |
Moukeddar |
masak, that www.infow.com is a BOMB |
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Moukeddar |
thanks |
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Moukeddar |
any similar? |
| 17:11 |
uvtc |
Could someone be so kind as to point me to "rakudo/nom"? I only see at github rakudo/rakudo and rakudo/star. |
| 17:11 |
masak |
Moukeddar: yes, but not right now. just hand around here ;) |
| 17:11 |
Moukeddar |
infoq.com |
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jnthn |
uvtc: It's a branch in rakudo/rakudo |
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Moukeddar |
masak, no problem |
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moritz |
uvtc: but there's not yet much to be seen |
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jnthn |
uvtc: Nothing to see yet. |
| 17:11 |
jnthn |
uvtc: Check back in a week or two. :) |
| 17:11 |
uvtc |
jnthn: Doh. Thanks. |
| 17:11 |
masak |
re the above quote, the fact of the matter is that the most precious thing people can donate to us, good programmers or not, is their time, interest, and enthusiasm. there are many ways to apply those. |
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jnthn |
uvtc: All the work so far has been in NQP, leading up to this. |
| 17:12 |
uvtc |
jnthn: Will definitely check back. :) |
| 17:12 |
jnthn |
uvtc: But in reality much of that work directly applies to Rakudo also. |
| 17:12 |
Su-Shee |
masak: now that is some nonsense.. |
| 17:12 |
colomon |
masak: I dunno, a few hundred thousand dollars wouldn't hurt either. ;) |
| 17:13 |
Su-Shee |
masak: I ofcourse meant the matter of fact statement and not yours :) |
| 17:13 |
masak |
Su-Shee: I was wondering :P |
| 17:13 |
masak |
colomon: sure! no doubt. but our bottleneck isn't really money. |
| 17:14 |
colomon |
well, it kind of is, but only in a "huge amounts of money" sense. |
| 17:15 |
colomon |
I mean, if there was enough money to hire ten of us to work full time on Rakudo, things would get done more quickly. |
| 17:15 |
masak |
yes, but. |
| 17:15 |
masak |
look at Star Wars. |
| 17:15 |
colomon |
for people with sensible amounts of money, donating time and enthusiasm is probably more useful. |
| 17:16 |
Su-Shee |
colomon: if you don't have the money, you'd need attraction to others. |
| 17:16 |
masak |
the good trilogy was made on a limited budget with limited resources. the bad trilogy was made with a ton of money, a huge staff, and all the latest visual effects. |
| 17:16 |
masak |
"art from adversity". |
| 17:17 |
masak |
I believe that's not just sour grapes talking. I think in some sense, Perl 6 needs to be an underdog project. |
| 17:18 |
uvtc |
Does Rakudo rely on STD.pm6 (the "standard Perl 6 grammar") to know what it's parsing? |
| 17:19 |
Su-Shee |
well .. people like me would like to see it really be a commonly used language because that's the only way you'd get all tools and libs and modules you really need. |
| 17:19 |
colomon |
uvtc: not yet |
| 17:19 |
moritz |
uvtc: it imitates large parts of STD, but it doesn't use it in the form of calling it |
| 17:19 |
colomon |
uvtc: Rakudo's grammar is a stripped-down and hacked-up version of STD |
| 17:19 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: STD.pm6 is more of a guideline for Rakudo :) |
| 17:20 |
Su-Shee |
colomon: sure it's not hacked down and stripped up? ;) |
| 17:20 |
uvtc |
Wow. Interesting. What is the reason for Rakudo not using STD.pm6? |
| 17:20 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: STD.pm6 is Too Advanced for one. |
| 17:20 |
colomon |
uvtc: STD.pm6 is by far the most complicated thing ever written in Perl 6. Rakudo is not sophisticated enough to parse it yet. |
| 17:21 |
colomon |
... maybe more process than parse, I suppose. |
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uvtc |
Hm. I think I'm asking questions, the answers to which I don't yet have the sophistication to understand. :) |
| 17:21 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: also, STD.pm6 was/is in flux enough that it would have been a nightmare to keep up with the changes. |
| 17:22 |
colomon |
PerlJam++ # very good point |
| 17:22 |
masak |
that's better now, though. |
| 17:22 |
moritz |
note that niecza uses a far less stripped-down version of STD.pm6 |
| 17:22 |
moritz |
which is why you get all sorts of fancy error message from it *and* you can run code with it |
| 17:23 |
moritz |
niecza: if(3) { say 'oh yes' } |
| 17:23 |
p6eval |
niecza v4-76-g7bf5ef9: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: System.FormatException: Unknown char: A at System.Double.Parse (System.String s, NumberStyles style, IFormatProvider provider) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0  at System.Double.Parse (System.String s, IFormatProvider provider) [0x00000] in |
| 17:23 |
p6eval |
..<filename unkno… |
| 17:23 |
moritz |
ouch |
| 17:23 |
moritz |
this is not the error message you are looking for |
| 17:23 |
jnthn |
fancy error message! |
| 17:23 |
colomon |
std: if(3) { say 'oh yes' } |
| 17:23 |
p6eval |
std 9f27365: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0mWord 'if' interpreted as 'if()' function call; please use whitespace instead of parens at /tmp/65fLwXTkMw line 1:------> [32mif[33m⏏[31m(3) { say 'oh yes' }[0mUnexpected block in infix position (two terms in a row) at /tmp/65fLwXTkMw line |
| 17:23 |
p6eval |
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PerlJam |
moritz: an excellent counter example! :) |
| 17:24 |
moritz |
that error message means 'niecza is currently hosed up, clean and rebuild please' |
| 17:24 |
uvtc |
Blogging request: Would love to see an introductory article describing how Rakudo, npq, STD.pm6, PCT, etc. all fit (or would fit, or should fit, or soon might fit) together. |
| 17:25 |
moritz |
uvtc: like http://perlgeek.de/blog-en/perl-6/rakudo-overview.html but in updated? |
| 17:26 |
uvtc |
moritz: {...reading...} |
| 17:26 |
PerlJam |
moritz: updated to include the other implementations too would be very nice. |
| 17:26 |
PerlJam |
moritz: and other Rakudo backends |
| 17:26 |
moritz |
PerlJam: I fear I don't know enough about other implementations to do that |
| 17:27 |
PerlJam |
well, maybe just niecza. At least you can ask sorear lots of questions :) |
| 17:27 |
moritz |
and I don't know anything about other rakudo backends, except that they are in planning |
| 17:29 |
moritz |
niecza: if(3) { say 'OH NOEZ' } |
| 17:29 |
p6eval |
niecza v4-76-g7bf5ef9: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: System.FormatException: Unknown char: A at System.Double.Parse (System.String s, NumberStyles style, IFormatProvider provider) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0  at System.Double.Parse (System.String s, IFormatProvider provider) [0x00000] in |
| 17:29 |
p6eval |
..<filename unkno… |
| 17:29 |
moritz |
huh. |
| 17:29 |
PerlJam |
What's needed is wiki-like editing and someone to prod others to add their respective parts. |
| 17:31 |
moritz |
PerlJam: you have my permission to turn it into a wiki. I can supply the .svg source for that file |
| 17:31 |
moritz |
ah, it's even in rakudo |
| 17:31 |
moritz |
in doc/architecture.{svg,html} |
| 17:32 |
uvtc |
moritz: re. "like {this} but updated?", no, I don't think so. I'm more interested in learning what pieces Rakudo is made of. Evidently, it's mostly made of nqp, but also some C, PIR, and Perl 6. It also makes use of a "grammar" |
| 17:32 |
uvtc |
moritz: but I don't really understand what that means in a practical sense. |
| 17:32 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: do you know what NQP is ? |
| 17:32 |
uvtc |
PerlJam: fwict, it's a subset of Perl 6. |
| 17:33 |
moritz |
uvtc: in what practical sense? for modifying it? for compiling it? for runtime speed? feature completeness? |
| 17:34 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: aye. Just enough of a subset to parse the Perl 6 used to create Rakudo (the various modules, grammar and actions). The bits that NQP can't actually implement natively yet are farmed out to either C or PIR |
| 17:37 |
uvtc |
moritz: In a practical sense -- that is, reading the wikipedia page on grammars does not really help me understand what a grammer is and how Rakudo would use it to run Perl 6 code. |
| 17:38 |
uvtc |
moritz: Perhaps I skipped too many high school english classes. :) |
| 17:38 |
colomon |
Rakudo uses it to parse Perl 6 code. |
| 17:38 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: a grammar describes the structure and semantics of a language. |
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PerlJam |
uvtc: so, for example, the rule moritz has been trying to diddle with niecza is "an identifier immediately followed by parens is a function call" i.e. "foo()" is a function call, but "foo ()" is not |
| 17:41 |
uvtc |
PerlJam: Ok, the grammar is what specifies that. Gotcha. |
| 17:42 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: in our case, the grammar is written in Perl 6. |
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| 17:44 |
uvtc |
But in what way can Rakudo use STD.pm6 as its parser if it have a parser to parse it. (How much wood would a wood chuck chuck...) |
| 17:44 |
uvtc |
s/if it/if it must/ |
| 17:45 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: through a process called bootstrapping. |
| 17:46 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: you build a mini-compiler that undertands enough of your language that you can then write your language in terms of itself. |
| 17:46 |
moritz |
uvtc: nqp can also parse Perl 6 (though not quite as completely as STD.pm6 can) |
| 17:46 |
moritz |
it's just like most C compilers today are written in C |
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jnthn |
uvtc: NQP keeps an "already compiled" version of itself |
| 17:47 |
jnthn |
It uses that to compile itself again, so changes can be made |
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jnthn |
At some points, that "already compiled" base version gets updated. |
| 17:49 |
uvtc |
So, at some point in the future, Rakudo's own bootstrapping parser will be able to parse STD.pm6, and then it will be able to handle any Perl 6 you throw at it? |
| 17:49 |
PerlJam |
uvtc: maybe |
| 17:49 |
moritz |
at least on the syntax level, yes |
| 17:50 |
colomon |
that's the ideal goal, for sure. |
| 17:50 |
uvtc |
I think I need to sip some herbal tea and ponder the nature of bootstrapping compilers... |
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uvtc |
Thanks very much for the info, all. :) |
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fglock |
I've updated http://perlcabal.org/~fglock/perlito.html |
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masak |
fglock++ |
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fglock |
:) |
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colomon |
#phasers in 8 min? |
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Util |
colomon: yes |
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masak |
ooh, colomon++ for reminding. |
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jnthn |
ooh, me too! |
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masak |
rakudo: $_ = \()[0] |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7114f5: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in isa_pmc() in '&infix:<=>' at line 1 in main program body at line 22:/tmp/y4MJK0IMPA» |
| 19:02 |
* masak |
submits rakudobug |
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masak |
rakudo: say \()[0] # it's really evaluating the \()[0] that causes the error |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7114f5: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in type() in main program body at line 22:/tmp/ys1onhIQWa» |
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masak |
rakudo: say 1 if 10 % i |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7114f5: OUTPUT«maximum recursion depth exceeded in 'Numeric' at line 3200:CORE.setting in 'Numeric' at line 3200:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line 7622:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line 519:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line 519:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line |
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p6eval |
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masak |
rakudo: 10 % i |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7114f5: OUTPUT«maximum recursion depth exceeded in 'Numeric' at line 3200:CORE.setting in 'Numeric' at line 3200:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line 7622:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line 519:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line 519:CORE.setting in 'infix:<%>' at line |
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* masak |
submits rakudobug |
| 19:10 |
masak |
this one is from hakank++. he meant to write this: |
| 19:10 |
masak |
rakudo: my $i = 3; if 10 % $i { say 1 } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7114f5: OUTPUT«1» |
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uniejo_ |
rakudo: i.perl.say |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7114f5: OUTPUT«Complex.new(0, 1)» |
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masak |
rakudo: say i === i |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7114f5: OUTPUT«Bool::True» |
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arnsholt |
Hmm. What's the sensible extension of modulo to the complex domain, I wonder? |
| 19:15 |
masak |
arnsholt: might be there ain't one. in which case NaN would be fine. |
| 19:15 |
masak |
but it shouldn't cause a stack failure. |
| 19:15 |
arnsholt |
Yeah, there's no immediately obvious generalisation that I can see |
| 19:16 |
arnsholt |
Yeah, it's definitely a bug. Probably because noone found a sensible generalisation and the fallback is to numify both arguments, or some such at a guess |
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masak |
no, I don't see how the idea of a remainder generalizes to the complex plane. |
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dakkar |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_algorithm#Gaussian_integers |
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masak |
cool, dakkar++ |
| 19:26 |
masak |
that's the first *use* of Gaussian integers that I've seen. :) |
| 19:27 |
masak |
but still, that definition of a complex remainder seems a bit tangled with the iterations of Euclid's algorithm. |
| 19:28 |
* PerlJam |
is coding something right now that would love to have some concise syntax for lagging by N elements while processing a list |
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PerlJam |
(processing time-series data in phase space) |
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colomon |
The 10 % i sounds like a bug to me. I'll try to sort out what I've done wrong later today. |
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masak |
Moukeddar: \o/ |
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Moukeddar |
hello masak |
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Moukeddar |
how you doing ? |
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masak |
Moukeddar: I'm less happy than usual... having Russian visa trouble :/ |
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masak |
but there are worse things in life ;) |
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* tadzik |
mumbles something about snow in may |
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frettled |
masak: and I guess explaining to them that they're all just Swedish emigrants from a thousand years ago will _not_ improve on that. |
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masak |
frettled: strangely, no. |
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Moukeddar |
masak, ooh , bureaucracy crap right ? |
| 19:47 |
masak |
frettled: visa application form just says "If you had USSR or Russian nationality at some time please indicate when and why you lost it" |
| 19:47 |
masak |
Moukeddar: something like that. |
| 19:47 |
jnthn |
"I lost it because I was Russian!" |
| 19:47 |
jnthn |
Oh, they didn't mean that... |
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jnthn |
:) |
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masak |
:P |
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Moukeddar |
well , you know , in Soviet russia ... |
| 19:48 |
tadzik |
In Soviet Russia you fall on the snow? |
| 19:48 |
Moukeddar |
fill the empty with the apropriate words |
| 19:49 |
masak |
...your visa gets YOU? |
| 19:49 |
Moukeddar |
kinda :) |
| 19:49 |
tadzik |
The bus cathes you? :) |
| 19:49 |
Moukeddar |
the bus rides you |
| 19:49 |
Moukeddar |
that has a meaning |
| 19:50 |
jnthn |
.oO( ouch! ) |
| 19:50 |
tadzik |
I think "catches" is more subtle |
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Moukeddar |
i hope things will get solved for you masak |
| 19:50 |
Moukeddar |
Rides is more nasty |
| 19:50 |
Moukeddar |
which is so russian :) |
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tadzik |
. o O ( the cold cathes you ) |
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masak |
Moukeddar: thank you. we'll see. :/ |
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jnthn |
Russia is really quite nice. Getting a visa to go there is teh horrible though. |
| 19:51 |
Moukeddar |
if not, just tell me |
| 19:51 |
Moukeddar |
and we'll clear them up :) |
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Moukeddar |
just for you |
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Moukeddar_ |
damn weather |
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Moukeddar_ |
masak, that website is awesome |
| 19:53 |
Moukeddar_ |
been there all the afternoon :) |
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masak |
Moukeddar_: glad you like it :) |
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Moukeddar_ |
is there something more like this? |
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masak |
Moukeddar_: you might want to check out http://distributedpodcast.com/2011/episode-2-cqrs-building-block -- and generally stuff that Greg Young has done. |
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Moukeddar_ |
what's CQRS ? |
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masak |
Moukeddar_: :) |
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masak |
Moukeddar_: you should read the logs at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/cqrs-perl6/2011-04-15 |
| 19:56 |
masak |
Moukeddar_: and if you want to talk more about CQRS, pop into that channel and we'll have a chat. ;) |
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* masak |
doesn't want to distract #perl6 too much when there's a dedicated channel #cqrs-perl6 |
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Moukeddar_ |
wow , that's some engineering stuff :) |
| 20:01 |
masak |
it's a fascinating concept. quite eye-opening. |
| 20:02 |
Moukeddar_ |
or mindblowing :) |
| 20:02 |
Moukeddar_ |
wait , you're not Ivan right ? |
| 20:03 |
masak |
not to my knowledge. |
| 20:04 |
Moukeddar_ |
ok ;) |
| 20:05 |
Moukeddar_ |
i'll brink a cup of tea |
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Moukeddar_ |
this is HOT :) |
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Moukeddar |
masak, you're a master :) |
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masak |
I wish :P |
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Moukeddar |
you're good |
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masak |
you say this only on the basis of a few links I provide? that just puts your judgment in question :P |
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tadzik |
masak: have a baby bison: http://i.imgur.com/FwwuK.jpg |
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tadzik |
I wonder if Baby Żubrs look similar :) |
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masak |
tadzik: awww! |
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Moukeddar |
all i see is STEAKS |
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tadzik |
you can't spell slaughter without laughter, eh? |
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Moukeddar |
masak, i'm talking from the log i'm reading |
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Moukeddar |
tadzik, i can,in arabic :) |
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tadzik |
:P |
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masak |
Moukeddar: oh -- in that case, thank you very much ;) |
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masak |
Moukeddar: I had a good teacher :) |
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Moukeddar |
you guys are making my summer plans even cooler , |
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Moukeddar |
esp. you masak |
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Moukeddar |
in the end of this summer i'll be the new regional Guru :) |
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Moukeddar |
masak, you're such good teacher :) |
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Moukeddar |
the smooth Teacher |
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masak |
I came back from that course in Poland all filled with inspiration. |
| 20:28 |
masak |
it was easy to pass a fraction of it on to my friends here ;) |
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masak |
moritz++ # parrot-dev :) |
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masak |
judging from those timings, I should be running Rakudo 2011.01... :) |
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moritz |
these timings mostly reflect nqp runtime, I think |
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moritz |
s/nqp/nqp-rx/ |
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* moritz |
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dalek |
nqp/ctmo: 932f6da | jonathan++ | src/ (2 files): |
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dalek |
nqp/ctmo: Make sure derived dispatchers are fixed up. Fixes the last two test regressions in the ctmo branch after the full switch to using compile time meta-objects. |
| 20:54 |
dalek |
nqp/ctmo: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/932f6dae6a |
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jnthn |
Test runs on ctmo welcome; merge to master imminent. |
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* moritz |
test runs |
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jnthn |
Danke :) |
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dalek |
nqp/ctmo: 61e5ea0 | jonathan++ | src/stage0/ (6 files): |
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dalek |
nqp/ctmo: Update bootstrap. |
| 20:58 |
dalek |
nqp/ctmo: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/61e5ea04cd |
| 20:59 |
moritz |
t/p6regex/01-regex.t (Wstat: 0 Tests: 742 Failed: 656) Failed tests: 1-55, 62-83, 85, 87, 89-96, 100, 105-108 |
| 20:59 |
moritz |
... and many more |
| 21:00 |
moritz |
the non-regex tests pass |
| 21:00 |
jnthn |
huh, I don't even have them run on make test... |
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| 21:01 |
moritz |
make p6regex-test |
| 21:02 |
moritz |
the Makefile line says |
| 21:02 |
moritz |
test: all core-test setting-test p6regex-test |
| 21:03 |
jnthn |
huh, how come nmake test doens't run the tohers for me... : |
| 21:03 |
jnthn |
:S |
| 21:03 |
jnthn |
oh...no wonder it won't work |
| 21:04 |
Moukeddar |
where's masak ? |
| 21:04 |
jnthn |
$P0 = get_hll_global ['Regex'], 'Cursor' |
| 21:04 |
jnthn |
That ain't gonna work any more... |
| 21:04 |
moritz |
Moukeddar: Sweden :-) |
| 21:04 |
jnthn |
Anyway, I expect it's the test harness that's broken. |
| 21:04 |
jnthn |
Well, I can tell it is. |
| 21:04 |
Moukeddar |
hehe ,thanks for the intel moritz |
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| 21:05 |
moritz |
jnthn: maybe I can get around to rewriting it in nqp in the following days |
| 21:05 |
jnthn |
moritz: That would be for the best |
| 21:05 |
jnthn |
moritz: The code is old enough to still mention PGE in it. |
| 21:05 |
* moritz |
has taken the next three days off of work |
| 21:06 |
jnthn |
moritz: I don't think I want to block rakudo/nom on fixing that. |
| 21:06 |
moritz |
jnthn: that's ok |
| 21:06 |
jnthn |
If regexes were actually broken I think we'd be failing to bootstrap. :) |
| 21:06 |
jnthn |
OK, if all of core-test is OK, I think it's merge time. |
| 21:08 |
* jnthn |
goes for it |
| 21:08 |
dalek |
Heuristic branch merge: pushed 20 commits to nqp by jnthn |
| 21:10 |
jnthn |
OK, that leaves...installation. |
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| 21:15 |
jnthn |
HLL.pbc, P6Regex.pbc and Regex.pbc conflict. :( |
| 21:15 |
jnthn |
pmichaud: ping |
| 21:16 |
moritz |
nqp: 'abc' |
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p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«sh: ./nqp: not found» |
| 21:17 |
jnthn |
What's the "sh" short for there? ;) |
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| 21:19 |
moritz |
wtf is killing the nqp on p6eval? |
| 21:19 |
jnthn |
Does it fail to re-build somehow? |
| 21:21 |
moritz |
the logs don't show it |
| 21:23 |
moritz |
jnthn: does nqp still set $/ or $0 after a regex match? |
| 21:25 |
jnthn |
moritz: I've not knowingly changed that. |
| 21:25 |
jnthn |
e.g. if it already did, I guess it still should |
| 21:25 |
jnthn |
$0 isn't set |
| 21:25 |
jnthn |
I mean |
| 21:25 |
jnthn |
If $/ is there, $0, $1 etc just work. |
| 21:25 |
moritz |
nqp: 'abc' ~~ /(.+)/; say $/[0] |
| 21:25 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Confused at line 1, near "say $/[0]"current instr.: 'nqp;HLL;Grammar;panic' pc 20767 (src/stage2/gen/HLL.pir:5644)» |
| 21:26 |
jnthn |
parens |
| 21:26 |
moritz |
nqp: 'abc' ~~ /(.+)/; say($/[0]) |
| 21:26 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Symbol '$/' not predeclared in <anonymous>current instr.: 'parrot;PCT;HLLCompiler;panic' pc 146 (compilers/pct/src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:107)» |
| 21:26 |
jnthn |
nqp: 'abc' ~~ /(.+)/; say($/[0]) |
| 21:26 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Symbol '$/' not predeclared in <anonymous>current instr.: 'parrot;PCT;HLLCompiler;panic' pc 146 (compilers/pct/src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:107)» |
| 21:26 |
moritz |
nqp: 'abc' ~~ /(.+)/; say($0) |
| 21:26 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Confused at line 1, near "say($0)"current instr.: 'nqp;HLL;Grammar;panic' pc 20767 (src/stage2/gen/HLL.pir:5644)» |
| 21:26 |
moritz |
jnthn: that's what I mean |
| 21:26 |
jnthn |
nqp: say($0) |
| 21:26 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Confused at line 1, near "say($0)"current instr.: 'nqp;HLL;Grammar;panic' pc 20767 (src/stage2/gen/HLL.pir:5644)» |
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| 21:26 |
jnthn |
oh, doesn't recognize those forms at all. |
| 21:27 |
jnthn |
Did nqp-rx do that? |
| 21:27 |
jnthn |
nqp: my $m := 'abc' ~~ /(.+)/; say($m[0]) |
| 21:27 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«abc» |
| 21:28 |
jnthn |
That works, mind. |
| 21:28 |
moritz |
nqp-rx: 'abc' ~~ /(.+)/; say($0) |
| 21:28 |
jnthn |
For the conflicting PBCs, I'm wodnering about prefixing them somehow |
| 21:28 |
jnthn |
NQPHLL.pbc or some such |
| 21:29 |
jnthn |
Bit ugly but...can't install it as HLL.pbc or it upsets nqp-rx, and thus Parrot's oplib building and stuff. |
| 21:30 |
moritz |
that was my first attempt too, but I failed at renaming stuff :-) |
| 21:31 |
Tene |
jnthn: so what's coming next for your work here, now that you've merged ctmo into master? |
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| 21:31 |
jnthn |
Tene: rakudo/nom |
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Tene |
Great. :) |
| 21:32 |
jnthn |
Tene: Getting Rakudo using new nqp and 6model and so forth. |
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| 21:32 |
jnthn |
moritz: Yeah it's, er, intricate :) |
| 21:35 |
tadzik |
jnthn: fails in t/setting/01-resizablepmcarray.t and t/setting/02-hash.t are alright? |
| 21:37 |
jnthn |
tadzik: Yeah, those tests are kinda bogus-ish now |
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| 21:38 |
jnthn |
tadzik: We used to poke stuff into the Parrot namespace |
| 21:38 |
jnthn |
But it's time to stop doing workarounds like that. It's kinda evil. |
| 21:38 |
moritz |
nqp: todo("foo") |
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p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Could not find sub todocurrent instr.: '_block11' pc 30 ((file unknown):20)» |
| 21:38 |
jnthn |
nqp: ok("foo") |
| 21:38 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«ok 1» |
| 21:39 |
jnthn |
moritz: Feel free to ass to src/core |
| 21:39 |
jnthn |
*add |
| 21:39 |
jnthn |
testing.pm iirc |
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| 21:42 |
moritz |
nqp: my $re = "bc"; say('abc' ~~ /$re/); |
| 21:42 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Assignment ("=") not supported in NQP, use ":=" instead at line 1, near " \"bc\"; say"current instr.: 'nqp;HLL;Grammar;panic' pc 20767 (src/stage2/gen/HLL.pir:5644)» |
| 21:42 |
moritz |
nqp: my $re := "bc"; say('abc' ~~ /$re/); |
| 21:42 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«bc» |
| 21:43 |
moritz |
how do I interpolate as a regex? |
| 21:43 |
jnthn |
<$re> |
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moritz |
nqp: my $re := ".*"; say('abc' ~~ /<$re>/); |
| 21:43 |
p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«abc» |
| 21:43 |
moritz |
thanks |
| 21:45 |
jnthn |
moritz: Think I've got the rename done. |
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jnthn |
Couple of surprises. ;) |
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| 21:54 |
dalek |
nqp: 8bffb73 | jonathan++ | / (11 files): |
| 21:54 |
dalek |
nqp: Some PBC renaming so we can install without trampling on things already in Parrot's library directory. |
| 21:54 |
dalek |
nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/8bffb73fca |
| 21:54 |
dalek |
nqp: 53e7266 | jonathan++ | src/stage0/ (6 files): |
| 21:54 |
dalek |
nqp: Update bootstrap after renaming. |
| 21:54 |
dalek |
nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/53e7266aa2 |
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| 22:02 |
jnthn |
ah, nom branch isn't know by dalek... |
| 22:02 |
* jnthn |
tries to remember where to fix that |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: d8e5dec | jdhore++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: Add myself as the release manager for the May release. |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d8e5dec1bf |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: 25e5bd0 | TiMBuS++ | src/core/IO/Socket/INET.pm: |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: Changed IO::Socket::INET to act more like perl5's. One connection per object, acts a little more like a filehandle, and most importantly, actually works (the old code no longer connects). |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: Signed-off-by: Moritz Lenz <moritz faui2k3.org> |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/25e5bd04b4 |
| 22:02 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: 76425ab | moritz++ | src/ (11 files): |
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tadzik |
:) |
| 22:03 |
jnthn |
oh, it is, just not on push notifications |
| 22:03 |
jnthn |
So I have to be patient ;) |
| 22:03 |
tadzik |
heuristic branch merge fail? |
| 22:03 |
pmichaud |
jnthn: pong |
| 22:03 |
phenny |
pmichaud: 01 May 20:44Z <jnthn> tell pmichaud I managed to resolve the prefixes method issue relatively easily in the end. :) |
| 22:03 |
jnthn |
Yeah |
| 22:03 |
jnthn |
pmichaud: ETOOLATE |
| 22:03 |
pmichaud |
+1 |
| 22:03 |
pmichaud |
I often am. |
| 22:03 |
jnthn |
That wasn't what I was going to tell you. |
| 22:04 |
jnthn |
Well, ask :) |
| 22:04 |
jnthn |
That was old news ;) |
| 22:04 |
pmichaud |
so, what's the new news? |
| 22:04 |
jnthn |
I had to install e.g. HLL.pbc as NQPHLL.pbc. Just used that prefix for now. |
| 22:04 |
jnthn |
Otherwise we scribble over the ones nqp-rx installs |
| 22:04 |
jnthn |
Which Parrot relies on |
| 22:04 |
pmichaud |
wfm |
| 22:04 |
jnthn |
And Rakudo master... :) |
| 22:04 |
jnthn |
OK, good. :) |
| 22:05 |
pmichaud |
could also be HLL-2 or HLL-nqp or something like that |
| 22:05 |
pmichaud |
but any name is fine |
| 22:05 |
jnthn |
yeah, I don't feel too strongly. |
| 22:05 |
pmichaud |
better might even be nqp/HLL.pbc |
| 22:05 |
jnthn |
ooh, yeah |
| 22:05 |
jnthn |
It's tied into use statements too... :) |
| 22:05 |
jnthn |
Anyway, can always twiddle later with that if we feel like it. It's not too set in stone. |
| 22:05 |
pmichaud |
well, then it could go into languages/nqp at some point |
| 22:06 |
pmichaud |
since we know we're going to *have* a runtime library, might as well make it a real language :-) |
| 22:06 |
pmichaud |
anyway, those are just ideas |
| 22:06 |
jnthn |
We already do have .HLL 'nqp' |
| 22:06 |
pmichaud |
right |
| 22:06 |
pmichaud |
so that tells me perhaps it should be languages/nqp/...whatever |
| 22:06 |
jnthn |
The problem is that load_bytecode doesn't (as far as I could tell) look in languages/[hll name]/ at the moment. |
| 22:06 |
pmichaud |
(and could potentially be installed that way by Parrot if/when Parrot adopts the new nqp) |
| 22:07 |
pmichaud |
not by default, no. but you can add it to the path, or you can use load_bytecode 'nqp/hll.pbc' |
| 22:07 |
jnthn |
load_language does, mind... |
| 22:07 |
jnthn |
True |
| 22:07 |
jnthn |
Well, thing is we never write load_bytecode 'HLL.pbc' now. We write use HLL; :) |
| 22:07 |
jnthn |
Well, use NQPHLL now... |
| 22:07 |
pmichaud |
seems like 'use' could be smarter, then. |
| 22:07 |
pmichaud |
i.e., figure out where to look. |
| 22:07 |
jnthn |
Yeah, it easily could. |
| 22:08 |
pmichaud |
and use nqp::HLL; looks nicer still :-) |
| 22:08 |
jnthn |
*nod* |
| 22:08 |
pmichaud |
anyway, those are ideas -- whatever you decide for now will be just fine |
| 22:08 |
pmichaud |
we can always clean it up a bit later |
| 22:08 |
jnthn |
Sure, I mostly just wanted to unblock working on rakudo/nom. :) |
| 22:09 |
jnthn |
And not being able to install it was my last blocker. :) |
| 22:09 |
pmichaud |
I still feel pretty uneasy about the way we generate constants in rakudo; part of me was thinking we might want to fix that first before the branch |
| 22:09 |
pmichaud |
but if you're ready for the branch already; any sequence is fine with me |
| 22:09 |
jnthn |
Generate constants? |
| 22:09 |
* masak |
.oO( constant unease ) |
| 22:09 |
pmichaud |
for example, 1.45 currently ends up in being several runtime calls to generate a Rat |
| 22:09 |
jnthn |
Eww. |
| 22:09 |
pmichaud |
*including* runtime calls to generate a constant 145 and 100 from strings |
| 22:10 |
jnthn |
Worse is that 42 gets re-built everytime. |
| 22:10 |
jnthn |
Well, also bad |
| 22:10 |
pmichaud |
right |
| 22:10 |
jnthn |
:) |
| 22:10 |
jnthn |
Well, we can fix that |
| 22:10 |
jnthn |
Just shove it into the SC. |
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| 22:10 |
pmichaud |
anyway, it shouldn't be a blocker |
| 22:10 |
pmichaud |
again, either way is fine |
| 22:10 |
pmichaud |
....and I'm being called to the other room, so I'll bbl (or maybe tomorrow) |
| 22:10 |
jnthn |
It's a trivial fix with the new stuff I've built. |
| 22:10 |
jnthn |
So I'll probably take it on during nom. :) |
| 22:11 |
pmichaud |
wfm |
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| 22:11 |
jnthn |
Catch you later/tomorrow |
| 22:11 |
pmichaud |
I'm going to continue fleshing out a benchmark suite of sorts |
| 22:11 |
jnthn |
OK, excellent |
| 22:11 |
tadzik |
. o O ( CATCH { you.later } ) |
| 22:11 |
pmichaud |
then I'll turn to nqp/raknom |
| 22:11 |
pmichaud |
afk |
| 22:11 |
jnthn |
tadzik: Well, you can try :P |
| 22:11 |
tadzik |
:D:D |
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tadzik |
jnthn: mind me fixing those perl6multisub.c:955:55: warning: suggest braces around empty body in an 'if' statement ? |
| 22:14 |
jnthn |
Which compiler is the style cop? |
| 22:14 |
jnthn |
:P |
| 22:15 |
tadzik |
gcc of course :) |
| 22:15 |
jnthn |
meh |
| 22:15 |
jnthn |
Feel free if it makes things quieter. :) |
| 22:15 |
tadzik |
I'm on 4.5.2 |
| 22:15 |
jnthn |
perl6multisub.pmc's life is somewhat endangered. |
| 22:15 |
jnthn |
But the code in it will for the most part stay, just elsewhere. :) |
| 22:16 |
masak |
why does gcc call it an "empty body"? that's a silly name for dangling syntax. |
| 22:16 |
tadzik |
now that I look at it I'm not sure I know what gcc actually means |
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tadzik |
if (foo); bar; is where it should produce such a warning |
| 22:19 |
masak |
right. |
| 22:20 |
tadzik |
*shrug* |
| 22:20 |
tadzik |
I'll pass |
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tadzik |
well, gcc shuts up when you use { } around the if'ed statement. Stupid |
| 22:21 |
jnthn |
gcc-- |
| 22:22 |
jnthn |
msvc++ |
| 22:22 |
jnthn |
;) |
| 22:22 |
masak |
gccbug! |
| 22:24 |
tadzik |
for some reason panda can no longer build with make -j2 |
| 22:24 |
tadzik |
but it passes all tests on rakudo/nom :) |
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masak |
'night, #perl6 |
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| 22:39 |
dalek |
rakudo: 42dcfd1 | masak++ | src/core/Int.pm: |
| 22:39 |
dalek |
rakudo: [src/core/Int.pm] made gcd signature slurpy |
| 22:39 |
dalek |
rakudo: |
| 22:39 |
dalek |
rakudo: This way, there's less need to invent a corresponding infix:<gcd> op |
| 22:39 |
dalek |
rakudo: just to be able to reduce over it. And it's not like &gcd is spec'd |
| 22:39 |
dalek |
rakudo: anyway. :-) |
| 22:39 |
dalek |
rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/42dcfd104d |
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dr_df0 |
hello all |
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dr_df0 |
is perl6 moving away from parrot vm? |
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dr_df0 |
i was reading some news ... |
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jnthn |
dr_df0: Where'd you read that news? |
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dr_df0 |
dont remember now ... so many rss'es :) |
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dr_df0 |
jnthn: i'll look for it |
| 22:48 |
jnthn |
dr_df0: Perl 6 is language, so it's a meaningless question as you asked it. :) If you really meant, "is Rakudo moving away from Parrot vm", then no, but it is looking to support *additional* backends. |
| 22:49 |
dr_df0 |
jnthn: right, I meant Rakudo ... after all specs reading such a mistake ... sorry :) |
| 22:49 |
jnthn |
No worries :) |
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tadzik |
the spectest passes on rakudo/nom |
| 22:58 |
jnthn |
tadzik: I'll soon put a stop to that... :) |
| 23:00 |
tadzik |
:) |
| 23:00 |
tadzik |
fun! |
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tadzik |
'night #perl6 |
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sleep & |
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