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good morning |
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niecza: b344401 | sorear++ | lib/ (2 files): |
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dalek |
niecza: ThawBuffer knows its setting |
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dalek |
niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]commit/b344401edd |
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niecza: d8852de | sorear++ | lib/ (2 files): |
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niecza: Fix over-eager caching of method handlers, colomon++ |
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niecza: review: https://github.com/sorear/niec[…]commit/d8852de8b0 |
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sorear |
phenny: tell colomon the bug you found while trying to enhance "cmp" is fixed now |
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sorear: I'll pass that on when colomon is around. |
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Perlito: bd673d3 | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (15 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - add "Javascript3" backend (containers are objects) |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/bd673d3000 |
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Perlito: ad58fdb | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (2 files): |
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Perlito: Perlito5 - Javascript3 - fix method names |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/ad58fdb2ae |
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morning, #perl6 |
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sorear |
o/ |
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Perlito: bb527ad | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (4 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - add make build-5js3 |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/bb527ad3a4 |
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cognominal |
nqp: say(?$/) |
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p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«(signal SEGV)» |
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cognominal |
keeping at breaking things |
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FROGGS |
morning |
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cognominal |
morning |
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masak |
nqp: ?$/ |
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p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«(signal SEGV)» |
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masak |
nqp: $/ |
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p6eval |
nqp: ( no output ) |
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masak |
nqp: say $/.WHAT |
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p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«Confused at line 2, near "say $/.WHA"current instr.: 'panic' pc 19999 (src/stage2/gen/NQPHLL.pir:7315) (src/stage2/gen/NQPHLL.pm:324)» |
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masak |
hm :) |
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Perlito: 9e72206 | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - fix list interpolation |
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dalek |
Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/9e72206537 |
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Perlito: 5640877 | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (3 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - fix "our" variables |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/5640877535 |
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Perlito: 7f2e5dc | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - fix die() |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/7f2e5dca9c |
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felher |
I guess I am just blind, but where is specified what happens if you C<use> a file that is just a normal file, not a module, not a package? |
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tadzik |
nqp: say($/.WHAT) |
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p6eval |
nqp: OUTPUT«(signal SEGV)» |
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nqp: say($/) |
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nqp: OUTPUT«Null PMC access in get_string()current instr.: '' pc 791 (src/stage2/gen/NQPCORE.setting.pir:363) (src/stage2/NQPCORE.setting:321)» |
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felher: S11 notes that EXPORT is a lexical installed in UNIT. Thus exports working out is orthogonal to what module/class is actually declared inside the file. |
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jnthn |
It's just convention (though a good one) to match file name and path with having a module of that name declared inside the file. |
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jnthn: ah, a UNIT is a compilation unit. And files are compilation units, so they get their EXPORT automatically. |
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jnthn: thnx a lot :) |
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np :) |
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this is a good talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCel6lpDTZI |
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felher |
yeah, the rakudo speekup is really great :) |
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Ulti |
yeah its very noticable, even if I haven't done much p6 programming I've built each release of star for the last couple of years and its gotten a lot better |
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felher |
indeed :) |
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leont |
Last question of this interview is interesting for us too: http://www.codeguru.com/cpp/ar[…]ne-Stroustrup.htm |
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jnthn |
Time to head to the airport. Back in ~20 hours, in a timezone far, far away. & |
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leont |
jnthn: YAPC::Asia? |
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doy |
leont: that seems about equally relevant to perl 5 and perl 6 |
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doy |
(: |
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Perlito: 283f52b | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - fix container stringification |
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dalek |
Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/283f52b3e7 |
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Perlito: 5ff149c | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - fix warn() |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/5ff149cee4 |
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Perlito: aa057ce | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | t5/01-perlito/19-local.t: |
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Perlito: Perlito5 - more tests |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/aa057ceacc |
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Perlito: 469a34f | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (4 files): |
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Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - fix local(), more tests |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/469a34f158 |
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Perlito: df13543 | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (3 files): |
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Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - add @_ aliasing |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/df13543e46 |
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Perlito: 62131aa | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (3 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - increment/decrement |
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Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/62131aa9b6 |
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masak |
obviously, the NP-oracle looks at prime candidates and says "sorry kid, but you're not the one". |
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arnsholt |
=D |
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masak |
<moritz> öööööööööööööööööl 5~ |
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masak |
luckily, that means "oil" in German, not "beer" as in Swedish. |
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masak |
I'm all for bringing up Ronja in the Linux hacker tradition, but beer can probably wait a few more years... :P |
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Perlito: fdcaf07 | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (4 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - impl PUSH - this will be used by tied arrays someday |
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dalek |
Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/fdcaf07868 |
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diakopter |
TimToady: I let it run through base 22 - bases 19-22 aren't anywhere close to as big as 18 |
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Perlito: 6b80f2a | (Flavio S. Glock)++ | / (3 files): |
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dalek |
Perlito: Perlito5 - js3 - more tied methods |
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dalek |
Perlito: review: https://github.com/fglock/Perl[…]commit/6b80f2a8cc |
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diakopter |
bases 3-22: Execution time: 36531.603 s |
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diakopter |
so around 10 hours |
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diakopter |
9.5 of that being base 18 I'm sure |
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* [Coke] |
blahs at the partcl nqp conversion effort. |
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* [Coke] |
tries to figure out the QAST syntax for calling a sub and passing it arguments |
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[Coke] |
if I want to see what PIR is generated with some QAST, is there a way to do that? |
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[Coke] |
(in lieu of more docs on QAST) |
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[Coke] |
phenny: ask jnthn how one is supposed to invoke a named sub from QAST. QAST::Op.new( :op<call>, :name<invoke> ); complains that it cannot find a sub called "invoke" (There's one at program top level, and one in the actions class, since I don't know where it's looking) |
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phenny |
[Coke]: I'll pass that on when jnthn is around. |
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GlitchMr |
https://github.com/sorear/niecza/commits/master |
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GlitchMr |
this commit history starts to annoy me |
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GlitchMr |
Why commit made 5 days ago would be before commit made a day ago? |
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[Coke] |
I'll bite, why does that commit history annoy you? |
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[Coke] |
... because you can commit things whenever you like locally, reorder them, and then push them. |
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GlitchMr |
Fix over-eager caching of method handlers, colomon++: sorear authored 11 hours ago |
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GlitchMr |
ThawBuffer knows its setting: sorear authored 5 days ago |
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[Coke] |
Sure. |
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GlitchMr |
Add BigInteger handling in ln: colomon authored a day ago |
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[Coke] |
the order the commits are in in history isn't necessarily the order commits are in when you committed them. |
| 17:38 |
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GlitchMr |
5 days is shorter period than 1 day or what |
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[Coke] |
GlitchMr: stop typing and read what I wrote. |
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GlitchMr |
This is... confusing |
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[Coke] |
this is... git |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com/perl6-changes: a5ffc5d | GlitchMr++ | _posts/2012-09-23-perl-6-changes-2012W38.md: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com/perl6-changes: Actually, it's fourth Thursday, not third. |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com/perl6-changes: review: https://github.com/GlitchMr/gl[…]commit/a5ffc5d316 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com/perl6-changes: d3761af | GlitchMr++ | _posts/2012-09-23-perl-6-changes-2012W38.md: |
| 17:41 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com/perl6-changes: Upload Perl 6 changes for 2012W38 |
| 17:41 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com/perl6-changes: review: https://github.com/GlitchMr/gl[…]commit/d3761af6b8 |
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[Coke] |
you don't even have to reorder - I do a commit locally. I sit on it for a week. you do a commit and push it today, all at once. I am reminded to push my commit - I rebase, and push. your commit is in first, but mine is older. |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: d721657 | GlitchMr++ | _posts/2012-09-23-perl-6-changes-2012W38.md: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Placeholder Perl 6 changes for 2012W38 page |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Currently, not much was mentioned on this page, but I've made this |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: branch so you can read it and report any bugs with this list if you |
| 17:42 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: will find any (like spelling errors or factual errors). |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: review: https://github.com/GlitchMr/gl[…]commit/d7216570f7 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: 8179af9 | GlitchMr++ | _posts/2012-09-23-perl-6-changes-2012W38.md: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Add more Perl 6 changes to blog article. |
| 17:42 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Currently, the changes aren't too exciting compared to previous week, |
| 17:42 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: but we still have three days - who knows what will happen then... |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Besides, isn't Rakudo Star release awesome enough - I mean, it brings |
| 17:42 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: newest changes to useful and usable distribution of Perl 6 - you know, |
| 17:42 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: without installing Panda :-). |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: review: https://github.com/GlitchMr/gl[…]commit/8179af9724 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: a5ffc5d | GlitchMr++ | _posts/2012-09-23-perl-6-changes-2012W38.md: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Actually, it's fourth Thursday, not third. |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: review: https://github.com/GlitchMr/gl[…]commit/a5ffc5d316 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: d3761af | GlitchMr++ | _posts/2012-09-23-perl-6-changes-2012W38.md: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Upload Perl 6 changes for 2012W38 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: review: https://github.com/GlitchMr/gl[…]commit/d3761af6b8 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: 9aca3c1 | GlitchMr++ | _posts/2012-09-23-perl-6-changes-2012W38.md: |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: Merge branch 'perl6-changes' |
| 17:42 |
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dalek |
glitchmr.github.com: review: https://github.com/GlitchMr/gl[…]commit/9aca3c1401 |
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GlitchMr |
wow, I think merging is really spammy |
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* moritz |
backlogs the summary |
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sorear |
good * #perl6 |
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moritz |
\o sorear |
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sorear |
[Coke]: and that's exactly what happened, I forgot to push my second-to-last commit until after colomon++ started doing the only functional changes of the release cycle |
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sorear |
o/ moritz |
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sorear: release is tomorrow? |
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colomon: 06:46Z <sorear> tell colomon the bug you found while trying to enhance "cmp" is fixed now |
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afk # but still interested in the answer... |
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pmurias |
[Coke]: re seeing PIR for QAST, I wrote a Perl6 -> QAST dumper which can show you how a bit of Perl 6 code is represented as QAST |
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pmurias |
for getting PIR from QAST I would try using QAST::Compiler to get PIRT |
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pmurias |
and then maybe the .pir method to get pir from that |
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pmurias |
[Coke]: also take a look at nqp/t/qast |
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moritz |
pmurias: where's that dumper? |
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pmurias |
moritz: https://github.com/pmurias/rak[…]in/ast-dumper.nqp |
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pmurias |
it's a bit rough |
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moritz |
pmurias: thanks |
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perl6: for 1 .. 10 { .say; next + next + next + next } |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7d6aa0, niecza v21-23-gd8852de: OUTPUT«12345678910» |
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colomon |
rn: say 1 cmp 5 |
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p6eval |
rakudo 7d6aa0, niecza v21-23-gd8852de: OUTPUT«Increase» |
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colomon |
rn: say { foo => 1, bar => 2 } cmp { bar => 2, foo => 5 } |
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p6eval |
niecza v21-23-gd8852de: OUTPUT«Same» |
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p6eval |
..rakudo 7d6aa0: OUTPUT«Decrease» |
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colomon |
So... I've reworked niecza's infix:<cmp> to masak++'s suggestion for ordering hashes, and if I'm not mistaken, rakudo is doing it wrong. (assuming, of course, masak's method is correct.) |
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colomon |
(that is, go through the keys in order and compare their values.) |
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sorear |
colomon: hi. release is tomorrow |
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colomon |
sorear: okay. will try to have more useful stuff checked in by then. |
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sorear |
++colomon |
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sorear |
so I have plans for the next month that involve some moderately serious (ab)use of the CLR assembly naming/resolution system and I'm concerned I might hit a Microsoft/Mono incompatibility |
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is ablaze with curiosity.... |
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[Coke] |
pmurias: that test file does have lots of great examples of QAST, but not the nqp they would correspond to, which makes it slightly less useful. I'll see if I can tease out what I need from it, though. |
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'night, #perl6 :) |
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leont |
libuv is a bit disappointing |
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leont |
They don't seem to know the rule #1 of callbacks in C: always include a void pointer for extra state |
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sorear |
how does node work around that? |
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leont |
Ah, I think I found it, there's a public data field in all request objects (that do get passed) |
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masak |
colomon: might well be that rakudo is wrong. |
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masak |
colomon: I'm still mulling over whether't's a good idea to compare hashes that way. |
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masak |
I'd be much more hesitant to do it with sets, for example. but hashes are not that different. |
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sorear |
o/ masak |
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masak |
\o |
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masak |
<GlitchMr> Why commit made 5 days ago would be before commit made a day ago? |
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masak |
because... that's what "before" means...? |
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masak |
but yeah, what [Coke] said. if you want your commits ordered *temporally*, you can do that. but that's not the interesting order. |
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masak |
'night, #perl6 |
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leont |
Also, libuv's habit of not declaring variables in examples is profoundly annoying |
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MikeFair |
o/ whiteknight |
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MikeFair |
n: 2.ln() |
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p6eval |
niecza v21-23-gd8852de: ( no output ) |
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MikeFair |
n: say 2.ln() |
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p6eval |
niecza v21-23-gd8852de: OUTPUT«0.69314718055994529» |
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MikeFair |
sorear: I'm not seeing the problem there... google's answer is: 0.69314718056 |
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