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dalek |
specs: 1dbea27 | lue++ | S02-bits.pod: |
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dalek |
specs: [S02] Fix small formatting code typo. |
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dalek |
specs: review: https://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/1dbea27a7d |
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pmichaud |
FROGGS: 404 Not Found |
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pmichaud |
FROGGS: also, you shouldn't send out the email announcement until the files are actually available :-/ |
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pmichaud |
that looks... bad. |
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* pmichaud |
double-checks the release guide docs. |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: 8bf24a8 | pmichaud++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Don't send out email announcements before tarballs are uploaded. |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/raku[…]commit/8bf24a868c |
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japhb_ |
Erm, Rakudo commit f7bfee6cd6259be7463b458a78a67efa639af12a looks rather wrong to me .... |
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japhb_ |
Was Rakudo already released like that? |
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dalek |
perl6-bench: ead65e6 | (Geoffrey Broadwell)++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
perl6-bench: Factor compiler definitions out of timeall into compilers.pl |
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dalek |
perl6-bench: review: https://github.com/japhb/perl6[…]commit/ead65e6742 |
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pmichaud |
japhb_: you're correct, f7bfee6cd is incorrect. |
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pmichaud |
there hasn't been a tarball published yet, though, so.... I dunno. |
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pmichaud |
I'm guessing we might need some qc for first-time-release-managers |
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pmichaud |
although in this case FROGGS isn't a first-timer. So, I dunno. |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: 17b9fe4 | pmichaud++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Release announcements now have .md extension. |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/raku[…]commit/17b9fe4578 |
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FROGGS |
pmichaud: ó.ò sorry |
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FROGGS |
these are the correct links: http://froggs.de/perl6/rakudo-2013.05.tar.gz http://froggs.de/perl6/nqp-2013.05.tar.gz |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: f97991c | (Tobias Leich)++ | VERSION: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: [release] bump VERSION to 2013.05 |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/raku[…]commit/f97991ccc0 |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: 9743c6b | (Tobias Leich)++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Merge branch 'nom' of github.com:rakudo/rakudo into nom |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/raku[…]commit/9743c6bd7a |
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FROGGS |
I've rebuild the tarball to have the right version fwiw |
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FROGGS |
I'm really sorry that I've messed up the release, will start the release next time a few ours earlier to not get into midnight sleepiness again |
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FROGGS |
and I'll double check what I'm going to commit, I believe I made the same mistake in november already |
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atroxaper |
Hello guys! |
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FROGGS |
hi atroxaper |
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atroxaper |
Does anybody know when new Rakudo Start will release? |
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FROGGS |
atroxaper: there will be a release when all modules pass, see https://github.com/coke/rakudo[…]/test-modules.log |
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FROGGS |
atroxaper: currently are three modules affected |
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atroxaper |
Ok. Thank you. |
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cognominal__ |
r: say('a' ~~ /a|aa/) |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«｢a｣» |
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cognominal__ |
I thought Perl 6 was using LTM. How is that compatible with that result? |
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TimToady |
I don't see an 'aa' to match, so it falls back to 'a' |
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tadzik |
hmm. Stratopan is about having custom, CPAN-like repos in a cloud. Custom. CPAN-like. Something for panda, maybe |
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tadzik |
I seem to have a life-long account too |
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cognominal__ |
oops |
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cognominal__ |
indeed |
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cognominal__ |
r: say('aa' ~~ /a|aa/) |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«｢aa｣» |
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cognominal__ |
everything is find and dandy indeed. |
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cognominal__ |
and the term "falls back" is probably inappropriate for declarative matching. |
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cognominal__ |
r: say('aa' ~~ m:p5/a|aa/) |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0m�Adverb p5 not allowed on m�at /tmp/ppi6jWJRG8:1�------> say('aa' ~~ m:p5/a|aa/�)�» |
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cognominal__ |
r: say('aa' ~~ m:P5/a|aa/) |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«｢a｣» |
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cognominal__ |
P5 | is the P6 || :) |
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cognominal__ |
good morning lizmat. |
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cognominal__ |
…and other #perl6 denizens |
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lizmat |
morning cognominal! |
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lizmat |
and #perl6! |
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cognominal__ |
learning that denizen comme from old french deinz 'within' which is probably the ancestor of the modern "dans" |
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cognominal__ |
indeed, both are coming from late latin deintus |
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hoelzro |
cognominal__: that's cool! |
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cognominal__ |
everything is cool in #perl6 except when I am too tired to think straight |
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cognominal__ |
but thinking straight maybe incompatible with lateral thinking, or diagonal, or fractal... |
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tadzik |
morning lizmat! |
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lizmat |
I usually only think out of the box |
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lizmat |
morning tadzik! |
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lizmat |
still only a 7 hour drive… :-) |
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lizmat |
with a few stops on the way |
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cognominal__ |
about fractals : http://imgur.com/gallery/lWkhr |
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timotimo |
r: =item First=item Second=item Third; .Str.say for $=pod; |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«Pod::Item<678915223>Pod::Item<-386447946>Pod::Item<-398726255>» |
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timotimo |
should the .Str method output a stringified version of those items instead? |
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timotimo |
there's not terribly much about this in the spec, i fear |
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timotimo |
also, good * people :) |
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timotimo |
also, i thought about using Konsole for a bit, but it seems like it has major trouble with that nl character >_< |
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timotimo |
depending on wether the cursor is left of it or right of it, text seems to be too far to the left, so i can't see what i'm typing |
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FROGGS |
PerlJam++ # next rakudo star smoke run will have only two failing modules instead of three |
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timotimo |
oooh, what did you do? :) |
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FROGGS |
he fixed the tests for Grammar-Profiler-Simple |
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timotimo |
neat |
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* timotimo |
builds the newest release |
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timotimo |
hmm. |
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FROGGS |
zavolaj (NativeCall) and perl6-lwp-simple still failing |
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timotimo |
can i just write a sub that takes an invocant and invoke that sub on some object without having to put it into the class explicitly? |
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tadzik |
yes |
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tadzik |
just do $foo.&bar instead of bar($foo) |
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tadzik |
bar needn't be special |
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tadzik |
r: sub plusone($a) { $a + 1 }; say(plusone 5); say (5.&plusone) |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«66» |
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timotimo |
r: enum Frob <FOO BAR>; sub not-special(Frob:D: $num) { say self; say $num }; FOO.¬-special(10); |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0mâ�¤'self' used where no object is availableâ�¤at /tmp/H3eDyXwyGj:1â�¤------> R>; sub not-special(Frob:D: $num) { say â��self; say $num }; FOO.¬-special(10);â�¤ expecting any of:â�¤ argument listâ�¤ prefix or te… |
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timotimo |
r: enum Frob <FOO BAR>; method not-special(Frob:D: $num) { say self; say $num }; FOO.¬-special(10); |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«Useless declaration of a has-scoped method in mainlineâ�¤===[0mSORRY!===[0mâ�¤Undeclared name:â�¤ ¬-special used at line 1â�¤â�¤Â» |
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timotimo |
not like that, obviously? |
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tadzik |
well, it's not really passed as an invocant then, I s'pose |
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tadzik |
it's a regular function call with a fancy syntax |
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timotimo |
mhm |
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timotimo |
well, i could always enhance the values of the enum with a role, no? |
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timotimo |
r: enum Frob <FOO BAR>; role Frobable { method frob() { return self +^ 42 }; FOO does Frobable; BAR does Frobable; BAR.frob.say; |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0m�Unable to parse expression in block; couldn't find final '}'�at /tmp/c4_e1qoy82:1�------> obable; BAR does Frobable; BAR.frob.say;�<EOL>� expecting any of:� method arguments� statement end� s… |
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timotimo |
r: enum Frob <FOO BAR>; role Frobable { method frob() { return self +^ 42 } }; FOO does Frobable; BAR does Frobable; BAR.frob.say; |
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camelia |
rakudo 9743c6: OUTPUT«No such method 'mixin' for invocant of type 'Perl6::Metamodel::EnumHOW' in sub infix:<does> at src/gen/CORE.setting:13509 in sub infix:<does> at src/gen/CORE.setting:13503 in block at /tmp/_Ymduy6jF9:1» |
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timotimo |
ah, not for those types i suppose |
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tadzik |
what are you trying to do? |
| 07:13 |
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timotimo |
just idly toying with language features that may or may not exist |
| 07:13 |
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timotimo |
then i'll have a look at why lwp-simple may be stumbling |
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timotimo |
http://www.software-path.com/w[…]c_server_test.cgi - that's what's causing the lwp test failure |
| 07:20 |
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timotimo |
it's just a 500 error |
| 07:20 |
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timotimo |
probably expired domain? |
| 07:21 |
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moritz |
then either disable the test, or find some other URL to test against |
| 07:21 |
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lizmat |
rakudo.org ? |
| 07:22 |
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tadzik |
uh |
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lizmat |
have it send a request to an URL to rakudo.org ? |
| 07:23 |
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lizmat |
*at |
| 07:23 |
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timotimo |
it seems like it needs a cgi that will echo the command sent to it via a header |
| 07:24 |
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timotimo |
no, actually from the POST content |
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FROGGS |
timotimo: there are other problems too, already send a pull request to fix one |
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lizmat |
that should not be too hard to make? anyways, just a suggestion |
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* lizmat |
goes on the road… |
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lizmat |
see you all later, on irc or in meatspace :-) |
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FROGGS |
o/ :o) |
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tadzik |
oh |
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timotimo |
the other pull request might be good to apply, too |
| 07:26 |
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FROGGS |
uhh, moritz++ |
| 07:26 |
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tadzik |
fun fact: if you write 'Build' which calls panda under the hood, you get a perl 6 module installable with cpanm |
| 07:26 |
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timotimo |
cosimo: do you have time to do it in the coming days? |
| 07:27 |
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timotimo |
tadzik: would you think a panda command to clone the repository for the module you specify to the CWD/repo-name would fit panda? |
| 07:27 |
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tadzik |
timotimo: I don't see why not |
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diakopter |
panda climb |
| 07:28 |
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tadzik |
but wait, isn't that what 'panda-fetch' is about? |
| 07:28 |
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timotimo |
not sure, i thought panda fetch fetches the code to a folder hidden away somewhere |
| 07:28 |
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dalek |
panda: b641a4d | tadzik++ | bin/panda: |
| 07:28 |
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dalek |
panda: Restore a fix which was lost during panda2 merge |
| 07:28 |
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dalek |
panda: review: https://github.com/tadzik/panda/commit/b641a4d7db |
| 07:28 |
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tadzik |
not anymore |
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timotimo |
cool |
| 07:28 |
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tadzik |
I mean, 'panda-fetch', not 'panda fetch' |
| 07:29 |
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tadzik |
everything's a lot more stupid these days |
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timotimo |
ah, ok |
| 07:29 |
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tadzik |
but for what you say you'd want some kind of a wrapper for |
| 07:29 |
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tadzik |
fetch is apparently too stupid :) |
| 07:29 |
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tadzik |
so yeah, that'd make sense |
| 07:31 |
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timotimo |
tadzik: what's the difficulty in making p6prove, btw? |
| 07:33 |
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tadzik |
timotimo: nothing specific. Tuits, mostly, I think |
| 07:33 |
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timotimo |
care to point me at what's missing? |
| 07:33 |
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timotimo |
i'd like test runs to take longer, you know? :P |
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tadzik |
:P |
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tadzik |
timotimo: well, what needs to be done is: do a module smoketest, then make panda run p6prove instead of prove, then do a module smoketest again, compare differences |
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tadzik |
that'll give you new testcases for p6prove |
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timotimo |
where do i find the super-convenient "smoketest" command? |
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tadzik |
then you just need to fix bugs :0 |
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tadzik |
https://github.com/tadzik/emmentaler here |
| 07:36 |
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tadzik |
there's a difftool which gives you a colourful summary of what has changed |
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tadzik |
so when it says "LWP::Simple now passes its tests", you'll know that p6prove is wrong about LWP::Simple |
| 07:38 |
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timotimo |
aaw :) |
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timotimo |
should i use the projectsfile from star? |
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timotimo |
hm, no, apparently it should be the regular modules file? |
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tadzik |
I think the regular one, with all the things |
| 07:39 |
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tadzik |
http://feather.perl6.nl:3000/projects.json |
| 07:40 |
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timotimo |
ah, i was about to get the META.list instead |
| 07:40 |
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dalek |
panda: 9f6e824 | tadzik++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
panda: Fix panda-install |
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dalek |
panda: review: https://github.com/tadzik/panda/commit/9f6e824268 |
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tadzik |
this is generated from META.list |
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tadzik |
the regular module smoketest is ran from this file |
| 07:41 |
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tadzik |
(the one from which http://feather.perl6.nl/~sergot/modules/ has the results) |
| 07:42 |
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tadzik |
I think https://gist.github.com/tadzik/5641922 is quite awesome :) |
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kresike |
hello all you happy perl6 people |
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tadzik |
you just need a fancy Build.PL (which can be a no-op), and Build (which just rans panda under the hood) |
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tadzik |
so now I can write 'panda cpanize' which does that for you |
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tadzik |
s/rans/runs/ |
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FROGGS |
cool! tadzik++ |
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timotimo |
oh, neat |
| 07:44 |
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tadzik |
it should be possible to extract Perl 6 Pod from the files, convert it to Perl 5 Pod and store all in .pod |
| 07:44 |
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tadzik |
then metacpan and friends should be able to read it too |
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timotimo |
something's wrong with the smoker: No such method 'project-list' for invocant of type 'Any' - in line 40: for $panda.ecosystem.project-list -> $p { |
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tadzik |
/o\ |
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tadzik |
I cannot reproduce that. Hrm |
| 07:46 |
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timotimo |
and indeed, dumping $panda gives me :ecosystem(▶Any) |
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timotimo |
this is panda2, btw |
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tadzik |
oh |
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tadzik |
panda2 is merged |
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tadzik |
you may want to use master again :) |
| 07:47 |
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tadzik |
merging fixed some bugs and introduced other |
| 07:47 |
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tadzik |
but it seems to work here |
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timotimo |
oh, ok |
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tadzik |
sorry for the mess |
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timotimo |
AFK for 30 |
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tadzik |
heh. I can install panda with cpanm :D |
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FROGGS |
O.o |
| 08:01 |
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dalek |
panda: 8bdbe7b | tadzik++ | bin/panda-cpanize: |
| 08:01 |
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dalek |
panda: Add panda-cpanize |
| 08:01 |
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dalek |
panda: review: https://github.com/tadzik/panda/commit/8bdbe7baea |
| 08:01 |
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tadzik |
it doesn't solve any bootstraping problem, sadly |
| 08:01 |
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tadzik |
cpanm or not, it's still panda code doing the heavy lifting underneath |
| 08:02 |
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tadzik |
now I need to wait for stratopan to show up and put our entire ecosystem there |
| 08:02 |
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tadzik |
that's going to be fun :0 |
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labster |
good morning |
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tadzik |
hi labster |
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FROGGS |
\o |
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labster |
So I noticed this line in the specs for &open: A file opened with :bin may still be processed line-by-line, but IO will be in terms of Buf rather than Str types. |
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labster |
So, wait, we're supposed to do this .lines as strings, and then .encode to a Buf? And how are you supposed to figure out what whitespace is if it's binary? |
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labster |
*horizontal whitespace |
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timotimo |
i suppose it will rely on the tried-and-true cr and/or lf "standard" |
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labster |
I think it makes more sense to still do stringy operations on a file opened as binary, but allow the compiler to assume a single-byte encoding. |
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labster |
Or maybe just get rid of the :bin switch altogether on open. If you want to do binary reading, use .read or .slurp(:bin). |
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jnthn |
morning, #perl6 |
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brrt |
\o jnthn |
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timotimo |
.o( method slur(:racial?, :ethnical?) { ... } ) |
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labster |
this isn't the yapc email list :P |
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tadzik |
:D |
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tadzik |
morning jnthn |
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jnthn |
tadzik: hey, guess where I'm flying to today? :) |
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tadzik |
\o/ |
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tadzik |
-o- |
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tadzik |
\o/ |
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tadzik |
-o- |
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tadzik |
\o/ |
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tadzik |
-o- |
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tadzik |
sorry, couldn't resist |
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jnthn |
You're making it look like hard work :P |
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tadzik |
I'm always excited when a plane takes off |
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tadzik |
someone pulls a lever, and a giant metal piece starts falling upwards |
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tadzik |
I'm always like "Yeah! Science, bitches!" |
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jnthn |
I'm always pretty relieved when it lands safely too :) |
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tadzik |
(no sexism and/or coc offense intended) |
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tadzik |
that too :) |
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tadzik |
There was sort of a Polish tradition of clapping hands when the pilot lands safely |
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cosimo |
timotimo: what should i do? |
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yoleaux |
17 May 2013 01:41Z <[Coke]> cosimo: can you get perl6-lwp-simple passing its tests so we can cut a star release? looks like some sub signatures have changed. |
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cosimo |
oh :-) |
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FROGGS |
cosimo: is fixed already :o) |
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cosimo |
great then |
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tadzik |
jnthn: will you be at the pre-conf beer? |
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cosimo |
i'm a bit out of touch with p6 lately |
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cosimo |
have been |
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timotimo |
yeah, there's two pull requests waiting for you; also, one of the tests fails because a host is giving a 500 internal server error, maybe the domain it was on expired |
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jnthn |
tadzik: My flight lands at 16:55, so yeah, I should make it. |
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tadzik |
awesome :) |
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jnthn |
tadzik: Just looking at where I'm staying, where that is, how to get from airport, etc. :) |
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FROGGS |
cosimo: can you apply my three pull requests please? https://github.com/cosimo/perl6-lwp-simple/pulls |
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diakopter |
what's the pre-conf beer |
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tadzik |
jnthn: have you seen http://act.yapc.eu/plpw2013/wi[…]ersGuideToWarsaw? |
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tadzik |
er, remove trailing ? |
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tadzik |
diakopter: a cheapskate version of "welcome dinner party" ;) |
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diakopter |
wait, which conf |
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tadzik |
Polish Perl Workshop |
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diakopter |
oh ok :) |
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diakopter |
'cuz I hadn't written down the pre-conf beer place Saturday the 1st |
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diakopter |
well I did in a side channel |
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tadzik |
:) |
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diakopter |
:D |
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timotimo |
tadzik: i don't understand how the smoker is supposed to work like that; it seems like the class Panda requires an Ecosystem instance to be passed, yet the only thing that the smoker passes is the projectsfile |
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tadzik |
hm |
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tadzik |
maybe I didnt push my fixes :o |
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tadzik |
oh, *facedesk* |
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tadzik |
sorry |
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dalek |
emmentaler: 0d67c41 | tadzik++ | smoker: |
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dalek |
emmentaler: Make it panda2-compatible |
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dalek |
emmentaler: review: https://github.com/tadzik/emme[…]commit/0d67c41fcb |
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tadzik |
timotimo: there, that should fi it |
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timotimo |
:) |
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* timotimo |
smokes |
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cosimo |
FROGGS: done! |
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timotimo |
er ... |
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cosimo |
please don't assume I can read everything GH throws at me, a mail would be great if I'm blocking you |
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timotimo |
i wonder how long that'll take |
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timotimo |
probably more ignoring than blocking, no? |
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FROGGS |
cosimo: 'am currently testing... thanks! |
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timotimo |
i feel mildly uneasy about just running code from github like that :| |
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cosimo |
timotimo: ruby folks do it all the time, must be cool ;-) |
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timotimo |
heh. |
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FROGGS |
perl 5 folks too |
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FROGGS |
but having a moderated app-store like 6pan is crap too |
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* timotimo |
removes projects from github users he doesn't recognize |
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FROGGS |
*but having a moderated app-store as 6pan is crap too |
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FROGGS |
okay, only zavolaj left with failling tests |
| 08:51 |
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FROGGS |
timotimo: it took like 6 hours at my (slow) server at home |
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FROGGS |
hmmm, zavolaj doesnt fail if I run it :/ |
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timotimo |
yikes |
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timotimo |
i should fire up my somewhat mighty desktop |
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timotimo |
maybe i could do something to parallelize test runs in smoker? |
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timotimo |
tadzik: is it dangerous to run multiple panda installs at the same time? |
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FROGGS |
ahh, [Coke]'s failing rakudo perl6 binary is 2013.04, a working one is 2013.04-97-gf7bfee6 |
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FROGGS |
[Coke]: after upgrading to rakudo 2013.05 all modules should be fine |
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tadzik |
timotimo: at this point it may be |
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tadzik |
because they all write to '.work/' |
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tadzik |
I should make it '.work.PID' or something, that'd be safe |
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FROGGS |
[Coke]: btw, the S02-types/bool.t failure does not happen using 2013.04! |
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FROGGS |
I guess bisecting 97 commits is rather pain on feather -.- |
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timotimo |
i'm considering adding a -j or SMOKER_JOBS parameter that would flatten the whole tree (dependency resolution and all that) and collect the outputs into an ordered kind of way or something |
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timotimo |
so that each run will give the same output ordering for correct diffs |
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FROGGS |
nice |
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timotimo |
tadzik: are you going to add the .PID right now? |
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FROGGS |
my not have each module in its own TAP file? so a file is only changed if its tests change somehow |
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timotimo |
hm, that would be sensible, too. |
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timotimo |
i have to ./smoker > output, don't i? |
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FROGGS |
I think so |
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FROGGS |
or wait, is there a result.json? |
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FROGGS |
but to get the TAP you need to capture stdout |
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timotimo |
right. |
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tadzik |
timotimo: not right now, this evening, maybe |
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FROGGS |
arrgghh!! Unsupported serialization format version 5 (current version is 4) |
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FROGGS |
lunch & |
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timotimo |
tadzik: i'm not sure why, but the $statefile doesn't properly get passed to the ecosystem's BUILD method :| |
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timotimo |
what's keeping the tarballs from being released? does it still need testing? |
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tadzik |
timotimo: you're talking about smoker? |
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timotimo |
yes |
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tadzik |
hm |
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tadzik |
that's bad :( |
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tadzik |
do you have a testcase? |
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timotimo |
yes, hold on |
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timotimo |
use Panda; my $projectsfile = "projects.json"; my $e = Panda::Ecosystem.new( statefile => "{cwd}/state", projectsfile => $projectsfile,); my $panda = Panda.new( ecosystem => $e, installer => Panda::Installer.new(destdir => "{cwd}/installlib")); |
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tadzik |
looks similar to smoker :) |
| 10:49 |
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tadzik |
I have quite a busy day, if you could open a bug for me, I'll probably manage to fix it tomorrow |
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masak |
oh hai, #perl6 |
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masak |
tadzik: guess where I too am going today? :D |
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masak |
unlike jnthn though, I need to stay behind a bit, and take the next flight. so I'll miss any pre-conf stuff. |
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* masak |
is still in teaching mode |
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masak |
gonna go home in a few hours and write my presentations :P |
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FROGGS |
masak: can you upload this to rakudo.org? http://froggs.de/perl6/rakudo-2013.05.tar.gz http://froggs.de/perl6/nqp-2013.05.tar.gz |
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masak |
FROGGS: 'fraid not. lunch right now, but I can't swap in non-$dayjob tasks :/ |
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FROGGS |
k |
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masak |
someone else is bound to be able to help, though. |
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FROGGS |
does somebody know what that means when trying to build nqp? Unsupported serialization format version 5 (current version is 4) |
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tadzik |
masak: \o/ |
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tadzik |
masak: guess what arrived with the post today :) |
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tadzik |
FROGGS: clean ALL THE THINGS maybe |
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masak |
tadzik: nice! happy reading! |
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FROGGS |
tadzik: k, will do |
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* masak |
away for a few more hours |
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FROGGS |
tadzik: even after removing and cloning nqp again, I cant build 2013.04 :/ |
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tadzik |
FROGGS: hm :| |
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tadzik |
I have no clue |
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FROGGS |
maybe parrot was configured using other flags... |
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jnthn |
Poland & |
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FROGGS |
no, even rebuilding parrot doesnt work |
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FROGGS |
looks like it didnt rebuild parrot even when passing -gen-parrot and removing its folder |
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Ulti |
has the release schedule for R* changed to a longer period? or is everything on hiatus for JVM stuff? |
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FROGGS |
I removed the install folder now |
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FROGGS |
Ulti: there were failing modules |
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Ulti |
ah right |
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FROGGS |
I am currently trying to hunt down the last bug |
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Ulti |
cool |
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timotimo |
so, r* may even come this weekend? |
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FROGGS |
well, first we have to fix that bug and find someone who can make a release (and has tuits) |
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* moritz |
back |
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FROGGS |
moritz: can you upload this to rakudo.org? http://froggs.de/perl6/rakudo-2013.05.tar.gz http://froggs.de/perl6/nqp-2013.05.tar.gz |
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moritz |
seems I can :-) |
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FROGGS |
\o/ |
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moritz |
done. |
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* bbkr |
is testing release |
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FROGGS |
bbkr++ |
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FROGGS |
cool, looks like my nqp-2013.04 got compiled |
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timotimo |
hm. when i want to override only a subset of the candidates of a multi method in a class i derive from, could i get at those other candidates within a proto i write for the derived class? |
| 12:06 |
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timotimo |
huh, i just noticed in this advent post about LTM, there's a rule { +? } which i'm rather sure should be .+? instead or something similar |
| 12:06 |
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timotimo |
and the rule text is empty? |
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timotimo |
oooh, angle brackets perhaps? |
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timotimo |
tadzik: huh, with current panda i can't install rakudo-debug; it will just copy the rakudo-debug.nqp file to my bin folder?! |
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tadzik |
timotimo: uh-oh, I must've broken something :( |
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timotimo |
no, happens with ufo, too |
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tadzik |
ufo was never capable of running Build.pm I think |
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timotimo |
oh, right |
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tadzik |
I'll try to fix it this weekend, if you could open me a bug |
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timotimo |
since it's blocking r* (or should block r*), i'll try to fix it myself first |
| 12:17 |
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timotimo |
yeah, there's a FIXME around the Build.pm part |
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tadzik |
ah, there we go |
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tadzik |
thank you |
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pmichaud |
(R*) if someone will tell me when modules are no longer failing, I can find tuits to cut the R* release |
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moritz |
afaict timotimo++ just fixed LWP::Simple |
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timotimo |
timotimo-- didn't, FROGGS++ did |
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moritz |
oh right |
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moritz |
your nicks both contain an 'o', no wonder I keep confusing you :-) |
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timotimo |
if R* is made, maybe revert to panda1 |
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tadzik |
is it made now? |
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tadzik |
oh |
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timotimo |
probably not immediately |
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tadzik |
good |
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tadzik |
I'll try to fix everything during plpw |
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tadzik |
or at least during yapcna |
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timotimo |
so, Resources got axed from panda2; Rakudo::Debugger sets my $workdir = $.resources.workdir, but doesn't use the variable at all |
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tadzik |
yeah, I killed Resources with firne |
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tadzik |
and for a reason :0 |
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timotimo |
it didn't seem very useful, maybe it was supposed to grow past its form at that time? |
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timotimo |
i wonder how many Build.pm there are in R* |
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tadzik |
I think there's one, and not just in R* :) |
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timotimo |
but i suppose i can find out with Task::Star |
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tadzik |
yep |
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tadzik |
new build($x) should probably just chdir to $x (justin case) and do the same thing that it does now |
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timotimo |
ah, so no more Pies::Project argument |
| 12:28 |
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tadzik |
yep |
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timotimo |
should it be a Str or an IO? |
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tadzik |
er, I think Str |
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timotimo |
ok |
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tadzik |
like in https://github.com/tadzik/pand[…]da/Builder.pm#L54 |
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tadzik |
I think the topmost 'return' there is wrong too |
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arnsholt |
pmichaud: I hope to get Zavolaj fixed in Austin, but I'm not terribly optimistic about getting it fixed before that, sadly :/ |
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timotimo |
tadzik: is .IO.d not preferable to .IO ~~ :d? |
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tadzik |
timotimo: timtowtdi, I guess |
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timotimo |
mhm |
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tadzik |
the former seems cleaner to me |
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timotimo |
but a few lines down you use .IO.f ;) |
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tadzik |
hehe |
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timotimo |
what's wrong about the return? should it be moved down after looking fora Build.pm? |
| 12:34 |
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tadzik |
I think it can be removed altogether |
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timotimo |
u r boss! ;) |
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tadzik |
:) |
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tadzik |
module can have a custom-built bin/foo, but no lib |
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tadzik |
it just never happened before |
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tadzik |
I'm terrified about being the boss. So many things break because of me |
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timotimo |
as long as we can backpaddle a few commits and things work again ... ;) |
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timotimo |
should i add a chdir after the custom Build is called, so that the custom Build can't wreak havoc? |
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moritz |
yes, sounds sane |
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dalek |
perl6-roast-data: 15eafd8 | coke++ | / (4 files): |
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dalek |
perl6-roast-data: today (automated commit) |
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dalek |
perl6-roast-data: review: https://github.com/coke/perl6-[…]commit/15eafd823d |
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timotimo |
i'm having trouble requiring the Build file |
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[Coke] |
ah, hell, looks like the data collection bit at the end misfired there. |
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[Coke] |
also looks like rakudo started failing a bunch of tests yesterday. |
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timotimo |
require 'Build' will give "Could not find file 'Build' for module Build", require "Build.pm" will give a huge stacktrace resulting apparently from not being able to stringify the exception that flies |
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[Coke] |
(all in S32-io/IO-Socket-INET.t) |
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FROGGS |
[Coke]: rakudo was clean on my box |
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FROGGS |
[Coke]: btw there are some notes in the scrollback |
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[Coke] |
FROGGS: the test was run with rakudo 25bfa5f and roast 298edbd |
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[Coke] |
If you want to bump the version rakudo * is building with before the automated run this afternoon, perhaps that will help the star module run. |
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dalek |
rakudo-star-daily: 34b4847 | coke++ | log/ (5 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo-star-daily: today (automated commit) |
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dalek |
rakudo-star-daily: review: https://github.com/coke/rakudo[…]commit/34b48474ca |
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[Coke] |
no change in star test module runs. |
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[Coke] |
(those are both from yesterday's run, not pushed until now) |
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dalek |
star: c79a520 | pmichaud++ | modules/ (10 files): |
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dalek |
star: Pull latest modules for a possible Rakudo Star 2013.05 release. |
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dalek |
star: review: https://github.com/rakudo/star/commit/c79a520aab |
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tadzik |
timotimo: (re chdir) you may want to use indir |
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tadzik |
it's in Panda::Common or somewhere |
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tadzik |
it's pretty polished |
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timotimo |
there's something else problematic |
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timotimo |
it seems like $where is a relative directory |
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timotimo |
how do i turn it into an absolute? |
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tadzik |
uhhh |
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tadzik |
fix Panda.pm, I suppose :/ |
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[Coke] |
pmichaud++ |
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timotimo |
Failed to change the working directory to '.work/1369399823_0': chdir failed: No such file or directory <- this is what happens if i chdir $where in my Build.pm/method build |
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tadzik |
timotimo: or don't touch in an actual Build.m |
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tadzik |
it worked without it before |
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pmichaud |
hmmm... Rakudo's release announcement doesn't note the change in ?-semantics. |
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FROGGS |
[Coke]: I have to update the modules versions too for a clean star, right? |
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FROGGS |
pmichaud: true, that is in the changelog only |
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timotimo |
perl6-debug seems to install properly now |
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tadzik |
yeah! timotimo++ |
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timotimo |
i'll have a pull request for you shortly |
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dalek |
star: fc649f7 | pmichaud++ | docs/announce/2013.0 (2 files): |
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dalek |
star: Rename 2013.04.md announcement to 2013.05.md. |
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dalek |
star: review: https://github.com/rakudo/star/commit/fc649f7d11 |
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dalek |
star: d1cb981 | pmichaud++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
star: Some updates for a 2013.05 release. |
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dalek |
star: review: https://github.com/rakudo/star/commit/d1cb981468 |
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dalek |
star: 9fabc39 | pmichaud++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
star: Update star release number in README/Makefile.in . |
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dalek |
star: review: https://github.com/rakudo/star/commit/9fabc39db7 |
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[Coke] |
FROGGS: pmichaud just did that. |
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* [Coke] |
will try to track down the roast-spec failure from yesterday (the meta-failure, not hte rakudo socket failures) and maybe rewrite history. |
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dalek |
panda: 6b2cc0d | (Timo Paulssen)++ | lib/Panda/Builder.pm: |
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dalek |
panda: make custom Build.pm files work again. |
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dalek |
panda: review: https://github.com/tadzik/panda/commit/6b2cc0d139 |
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dalek |
panda: 23ff9b7 | tadzik++ | lib/Panda/Builder.pm: |
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dalek |
panda: Merge from timo/master |
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dalek |
panda: |
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dalek |
panda: make custom Build.pm work again |
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dalek |
panda: review: https://github.com/tadzik/panda/commit/23ff9b7324 |
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tadzik |
I have to admit, I didn't even test that :) |
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timotimo |
hm. i have a slight feeling that rakudo::debugger has suffered from a bit of bitrot |
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timotimo |
jnthn: you'll find a pull request for Rakudo::Debugger, too |
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timotimo |
it no longer seems to show what part of text was matched so far by regexes |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: 45ae2d2 | pmichaud++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Bump copyright year as suggested by bbkr++. |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Closes #159. |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/raku[…]commit/45ae2d2486 |
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bbkr |
FROGGS: 2013.05 release works fine on OS X 10.6 and 10.7 |
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brrt |
you know what would be awesome? json for actual graphs |
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timotimo |
where do i get the current cursor from again? $/.CURSOR? |
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timotimo |
i think something's wrong about the way rakudo::debugger tries to get the cursor object |
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timotimo |
my $cur = eval_in_ctx($ctx, q[DYNAMIC::<$¢>]); |
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pmichaud |
current cursor is in $¢ |
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timotimo |
This type does not support positional operations is the error that line is causing |
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pmichaud |
$/.CURSOR will get there, but builds a Match object in the process. |
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timotimo |
ok |
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* timotimo |
tries with "..." instead of q[...] |
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timotimo |
i don't quite understand how i get that error :| |
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timotimo |
the same with eval_in_ctx($ctx, '1 + 1'), so maybe the error is in eval_in_ctx |
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timotimo |
ah, that's probably it, yes. |
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timotimo |
it's a ForeignCode object, that's probably what broke it. recently ForeignCode was introduced, right? |
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timotimo |
i don't really know how to get at an object inside that to set the outer context :| |
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pmichaud |
timotimo: I don't know either |
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timotimo |
well, just removing the line with set_outer_ctx seems to fix it |
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timotimo |
maybe it's now enough that the outer context was given as :outer_ctx in the $compiler.compile call |
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timotimo |
interesting! if the last line doesn't end in a semicolon, it won't be highlighted |
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timotimo |
but that's just a minor papercut |
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* timotimo |
feels useful for a change :3 |
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timotimo |
i should create a few "slides" |
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Ulti |
http://i.minus.com/iH8aOpXstddxg.gif |
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Ulti |
^ not perl6 related |
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timotimo |
wow, she is not enjoying that |
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timotimo |
i imagine i would be amused at least |
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FROGGS |
bbkr: cool! good to know |
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Ulti |
I laughed out loud at the top of my voice in the office :/ people came to see what was wrong |
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timotimo |
heh. |
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diakopter |
the audio isn't working for me |
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Ulti |
the audio on the .gif? |
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timotimo |
so, i'm trying to write code that runs if Text::Levenshtein exists, but doesn't explode at compile-time if it doesn't. "require Text::Levenshtein <distance>" doesn't seem to do what i want: Trying to import from 'Text::Levenshtein', but the following symbols are missing: distance |
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timotimo |
but there's a sub "distance" in there that is marked "is export" |
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Ulti |
instead of Levenshtein implement Bitap :] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitap_algorithm |
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timotimo |
levenshtein is already implemented. i'd just have to use it |
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timotimo |
but not with "Use" |
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timotimo |
Error while compiling block (source text: "require Text::Levenshtein <distance>;\nsay distance(\"foo\", \"boo\");\n"): Error while compiling op call: Error while compiling block : Error while compiling op call (source text: "say distance(\"foo\", \"boo\")"): Error while compiling op call (source text: "\"foo\", \"boo\""): Null PMC access in find_method('handle') |
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timotimo |
that's better! ... not :( |
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FROGGS |
arnsholt: ping |
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timotimo |
tadzik: do you think ecosystem.suggest-project is a good place to put a suggestion generating method for when a project name has been misspelt? |
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FROGGS |
what about ecosystem-typo-projectname? |
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FROGGS |
suggest-project sounds like advertisement to me |
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PerlJam |
good $localtime #perl6 people ! |
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brrt |
hi PerlJam |
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timotimo |
hehehe |
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PerlJam |
What's new in the world? |
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brrt |
nothing, ever |
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brrt |
we decay by the second law |
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brrt |
but that is not what you meant, is it? :-) |
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PerlJam |
brrt: I dunno what I meant because whoever answers is meant to supply the missing context ;) |
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brrt |
good point |
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timotimo |
it's like when an interviewer keeps holding the microphone to someones face after they stopped talking |
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Ulti |
brrt maybe if you are a physicist and not a biologist |
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brrt |
huh, i actually study biology ;-) |
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Ulti |
life isn't really heading towards maximum entropy even after a billion years |
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timotimo |
hm, there's bioperl, but is there physiperl? |
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PerlJam |
timotimo: In p5-land that's called PDL ;) |
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Ulti |
PDL is physiperl I guess |
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brrt |
ulti, and why is that, really? |
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Ulti |
more astro/image analysis perl |
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brrt |
its true |
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brrt |
but its weird isn't it? |
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timotimo |
is that like numpy for python? |
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PerlJam |
really PDL is kind of like mathperl (which we all know is the basis for physiperl (which, in turn, is the basis for bioperl)) |
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PerlJam |
:-) |
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timotimo |
you forgot the chemiperl in the middle |
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timotimo |
Project Text::Levenshtein not found in the ecosystem. Maybe you meant Text-Levenshtein? |
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Ulti |
brrt the best sorts of intersections between life and thermodynamics are papers like these http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16408074 |
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timotimo |
(a little bit of an autopun?) |
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timotimo |
tadzik: do you like that? :) |
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brrt |
that is bizarre… thanks for that |
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Ulti |
entropy motors are p. neat this is why I love molecular biology evolution at this level is just hacking reality |
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PerlJam |
Ulti: all of what we do is "hacking reality" |
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PerlJam |
we imagine a future, then hack reality to match our imagination. |
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Ulti |
sure but this is a blind natural process |
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Ulti |
like imagine if the ocean just started doing something weird like teleporting around, its that level of wtf some of what happens in your cells |
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Ulti |
that kinesin motor I just linked to, is usually paired with another protein that is biased to "walk" in the opposite direction so it switches footing when it bumps into something in its way |
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PerlJam |
And Conway's Game of Life comes full circle ;) |
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Ulti |
:) yeah basically gliders on a lattice :) |
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Ulti |
they even look a bit like them too |
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Ulti |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-uuk4Pr2i8 |
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timotimo |
i am bummed out that no new video about that stuff has been made since that one came out |
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Ulti |
yeah |
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Ulti |
timotimo: have you seen this book http://www.amazon.com/The-Mach[…]ell/dp/0387849246 might be of interest |
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tadzik |
timotimo: sounds good :) |
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tadzik |
timotimo: there was a panda ticket with some discussion about this, have you seen it? |
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tadzik |
the implementation is nice and elegant too |
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timotimo |
i read it now |
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timotimo |
the implementation i made? |
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tadzik |
yep |
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timotimo |
thank you :D |
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PerlJam |
Does panda use Levenshtein edit distance to offer helpful advice on possible module names when it can't find what the user has asked for? |
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tadzik |
not yet |
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tadzik |
but see timotimo++'s pull request |
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timotimo |
no, it doesn't, because i couldn't get Text::Levenshtein in as a runtime-only-dependency |
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PerlJam |
oh! |
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PerlJam |
Nice. |
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PerlJam |
(I was just asking because I typed "panda install Text::Levenstein" and was surprised that it couldn't be found :) |
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FROGGS |
hehe |
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timotimo |
16:07 < timotimo> Project Text::Levenshtein not found in the ecosystem. Maybe you meant Text-Levenshtein? |
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timotimo |
;) |
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PerlJam |
okay, even when I type it correctly, I get "Project Text::Levenshtein not found in the ecosystem" What gives? |
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timotimo |
"panda update"? |
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PerlJam |
no dice. |
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* FROGGS |
thinks he has found the core.pm of all evil |
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FROGGS |
actually src/core/terms.pm |
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timotimo |
er. that's not how you type correctly, PerlJam |
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timotimo |
Maybe you meant Text-Levenshtein? |
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PerlJam |
Hrm. that's icky. |
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FROGGS |
it is |
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PerlJam |
panda install Text::CSV worked fine. |
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PerlJam |
What does it use to determine the module name? |
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FROGGS |
the value in META.info |
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PerlJam |
I think I feel itchy |
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PerlJam |
maybe panda could try Module::Name and then Module-Name ? |
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timotimo |
don't think so |
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timotimo |
see the discussion in the ticket about case insensitivity |
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* PerlJam |
reads |
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PerlJam |
timotimo++ btw |
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timotimo |
:3 |
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kresike |
bye folks |
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FROGGS |
[Coke]: btw, in rakudo/src/core/terms.pm, if you comment out line 8 and line 117, S02-bool.t passes |
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FROGGS |
will bisect zavolaj this evening more |
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FROGGS |
bbl |
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timotimo |
i wonder if the many object systems for perl5 will work atop rakudo |
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FROGGS[mobile] |
we will find out |
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* brrt |
off |
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timotimo |
i wonder if it would make sense to introduce a way to say $a is always exactly a Dog, never has roles applied on it or contains a subclass of Dog |
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timotimo |
but that's probably too specific |
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PerlJam |
timotimo: you mean as a constraint or a compiler hint? |
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timotimo |
constraint would be sanest |
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timotimo |
i wouldn't like to hint at the compiler "this is always a Dog" and then accidentally put a subclass of Dog in there |
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pmichaud |
maybe a "is <mumble>" trait |
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timotimo |
is exactly[Dog] |
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pmichaud |
my Dog $a is pure; |
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timotimo |
maybe "purely" |
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timotimo |
is "methods on Cool exist as sub, too" a rule without exceptions? |
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pmichaud |
I don't think so. |
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pmichaud |
some methods can't easily be subbed |
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timotimo |
mhm |
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pmichaud |
grep is an example. |
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pmichaud |
(although grep is really defined on Any) |
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timotimo |
how incomplete is :P5 support for regexes in rakudo? |
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pmichaud |
"30" |
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PerlJam |
Where's the regex feature matrix for :P5 ? :) |
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pmichaud |
r: say 101.base(16) |
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camelia |
rakudo 45ae2d: OUTPUT«65» |
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pmichaud |
r: say base(101, 16); |
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camelia |
rakudo 45ae2d: OUTPUT«===[0mSORRY!===[0m�Undeclared routine:� base used at line 1��» |
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pmichaud |
there's an example of a method in Cool that isn't a sub. |
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timotimo |
right. that 30 was to what base? :) |
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timotimo |
i feel like i need to take a nap :/ |
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timotimo |
my slides are not progressing |
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colomon |
does p5 have a FIRST phaser? |
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* colomon |
worked around it... |
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masak |
oh hai, #perl6 |
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o/ |
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