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skids |
r: use Test; is (-4..-1 X+> 1..3), (-2,-1,-1,-2,-1 xx 8), "+> is OK for some time now on all bakends AFAIK" |
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camelia |
rakudo-{parrot,jvm,moar} c382c7: OUTPUT«ok 1 - +> is OK for some time now on all bakends AFAIK» |
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skids |
r: r: my int $f = 10; say gather do { say (2 * $f) + take($f div 4) } |
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camelia |
rakudo-parrot c382c7: OUTPUT«122» |
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camelia |
..rakudo-{jvm,moar} c382c7: OUTPUT«222» |
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skids |
r: my int $f = 10; say (2 * $f) + ($f * 1) |
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camelia |
rakudo-parrot c382c7: OUTPUT«20» |
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camelia |
..rakudo-{jvm,moar} c382c7: OUTPUT«30» |
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masak |
r: my $f = 10; say (2 * $f) + ($f * 1) |
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camelia |
rakudo-{parrot,jvm,moar} c382c7: OUTPUT«30» |
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masak |
r: my int $f = 10; say (2 * $f) + ($f * 1) |
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camelia |
rakudo-parrot c382c7: OUTPUT«20» |
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camelia |
..rakudo-{jvm,moar} c382c7: OUTPUT«30» |
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masak |
skids: is that a known parrotbug? is it reported? |
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masak |
(morning, #perl6) |
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masak |
conf & |
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masak |
...ahoj from within conf! :) |
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lizmat |
the Jurys Inn! |
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* masak |
.oO( and boy are their arms tired -- oops, wrong joke ) |
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masak |
I enjoyed reading https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/blog/2014/tdd-straw-men-and-rhetoric |
| 07:01 |
masak |
and it made me think: I wonder if I could get my Perl 6 tests to run in < .3 s. |
| 07:01 |
FROGGS |
masak: what tests? |
| 07:01 |
FROGGS |
something specific? |
| 07:01 |
masak |
any tests. |
| 07:01 |
masak |
for whatever application I'm developing. |
| 07:02 |
FROGGS |
spectesting in .3s would be quite nice :o) |
| 07:02 |
masak |
if I run the empty program with a cold start on my laptop, the wallclock time is 1.3 s |
| 07:02 |
masak |
warm start: around .75 s |
| 07:02 |
masak |
which basically means that the Rakudo startup time is already too much :) |
| 07:02 |
masak |
I wonder if something like sorear++'s server solution could work, though. |
| 07:03 |
masak |
maybe in combination with jnthn++'s IO::Notification |
| 07:03 |
FROGGS |
ohh |
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FROGGS |
nice idea |
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masak |
it's worth exploring. |
| 07:03 |
FROGGS |
s/nice/very interesting/ |
| 07:04 |
masak |
basically, it would be Test::Junkie, but it would *read the tests into the existing process* to avoid startup overhead. |
| 07:04 |
FROGGS |
that could work like having a local travis in the background |
| 07:05 |
FROGGS |
in an ideal world we would render the build+spectest on a supercomputer and you'd get the test results after seconds you changed a rakudo source file |
| 07:06 |
* masak |
hesitates between https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Air_Force_Base and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_(chimpanzee) before finding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_CI :) |
| 07:06 |
FROGGS |
hehe |
| 07:06 |
masak |
FROGGS: hmmm, maybe that's actually feasible. |
| 07:06 |
jnthn |
morning, #perl6 |
| 07:06 |
FROGGS |
moarning jnthn |
| 07:06 |
masak |
FROGGS: rent 256 CPUs, and run the tests in a massively parallel manner in the cloud. |
| 07:07 |
FROGGS |
masak: I thought about that when we only had parrot+jvm |
| 07:07 |
masak |
FROGGS: all you need to make sure is that your local changes have been copied over before you start. |
| 07:07 |
FROGGS |
yeah |
| 07:07 |
FROGGS |
IO::Notification FTW! |
| 07:07 |
masak |
FROGGS: I think that might speed things up nicely for our core developers. |
| 07:07 |
FROGGS |
exactly :o) |
| 07:07 |
masak |
FROGGS: ooh, yes, IO::Notofication could be used for *that*, too! |
| 07:07 |
masak |
awesome! |
| 07:07 |
FROGGS |
this could be its own GSoC project though |
| 07:07 |
jnthn |
reactive all the things! |
| 07:08 |
FROGGS |
I AM NOT REACTIVE!!! I AM JUST SHOUTING!!!111 |
| 07:08 |
masak |
FROGGS: well, as having been newly bitten by the heroku bug, I wonder if something like heroku couldn't do this. |
| 07:08 |
* masak |
.oO( rent-a-really-fast-box ) |
| 07:09 |
jnthn |
masak: How come your laptop takes 3 times a long to start r-m as mine? o.O |
| 07:10 |
FROGGS |
O.o |
| 07:11 |
Timbus |
sort of on this topic.. how would one implement two way binding in perl 6. say for an MVVM. I saw jnthn's GTK slides but I was wondering how to abstract it to variable/attribute watching |
| 07:12 |
Timbus |
I saw a blog or an advent that would apply a 'logger' to every attribute access using the metamodel. seems like the best way? |
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jnthn |
timotimo++ # p6weekly |
| 07:12 |
sergot_ |
morning! o/ |
| 07:12 |
sergot_ |
timotimo: I'll give an answer today :) |
| 07:15 |
masak |
jnthn: ...because it's four years old and yours isn't? |
| 07:15 |
jnthn |
Oh |
| 07:15 |
jnthn |
Ask $boss for a new one!! :P |
| 07:15 |
FROGGS |
.tell timotimo that's wrong: If I understand correctly, the bug where MoarVM incorrectly turned nums into strings was fixed. Turns out it was forgetting about the ‘e’ inside scientific notation. |
| 07:15 |
yoleaux |
FROGGS: I'll pass your message to timotimo. |
| 07:15 |
masak |
jnthn: already did :) |
| 07:15 |
jnthn |
ah..yeah, that's why you were asking me what I had a week or two ago... :P |
| 07:16 |
masak |
aye. |
| 07:16 |
FROGGS |
.tell when coercing to a string it lost trailing zero's for scientific notation, when it only should strip these for \d+.\d+ looking floats |
| 07:16 |
yoleaux |
FROGGS: I'll pass your message to when. |
| 07:16 |
FROGGS |
.tell timotimo when coercing to a string it lost trailing zero's for scientific notation, when it only should strip these for \d+.\d+ looking floats |
| 07:16 |
yoleaux |
FROGGS: I'll pass your message to timotimo. |
| 07:16 |
masak |
jnthn: next you will ask me why my phone doesn't have a volume button like yours :P |
| 07:16 |
jnthn |
masak: That's just 'cus you're less good at chosing phones than me :D |
| 07:16 |
masak |
:P |
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* FROGGS |
realized that it is kinda stupid to slurp a file and pull things out using regexes line by line |
| 07:22 |
jnthn |
:) |
| 07:23 |
FROGGS |
it takes 24s this way to pars a >500 lines file :o) |
| 07:23 |
FROGGS |
parse* |
| 07:23 |
sergot_ |
How is the CZPW? |
| 07:23 |
sergot_ |
:) |
| 07:24 |
masak |
sergot_: it's just getting started -- so far so good. :) |
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masak |
sergot_: about the same size as PLPW |
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masak |
sergot_: by the way, thanks again for an awesome workshop! sergot++ |
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sergot_ |
\o/ great |
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itz |
using English slides helped a lot |
| 07:25 |
sergot_ |
masak: thank you for participating and awesome talks |
| 07:25 |
sergot_ |
masak++ |
| 07:26 |
sergot_ |
m: say 2 >+ 2 |
| 07:26 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«False» |
| 07:26 |
sergot_ |
m: say 2 >+ 1 |
| 07:26 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«True» |
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sergot_ |
m: say 2 >=+ 1 |
| 07:26 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«True» |
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sergot_ |
m: say 2 >=+ 2 |
| 07:26 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«True» |
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masak |
m: say 2 +> 2 |
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masak |
camelia? |
| 07:30 |
sergot_ |
oh |
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masak |
sergot_: `2 >+ 2` == `2 > +2` |
| 07:31 |
sergot_ |
oooh, ok |
| 07:32 |
masak |
m: say defined &infix:<< +> >> |
| 07:32 |
sergot_ |
masak: so what does the +> do? |
| 07:32 |
sergot_ |
> 15 +> 1 |
| 07:32 |
sergot_ |
7 |
| 07:32 |
masak |
sergot_: I thought that was what you were aiming for. |
| 07:32 |
masak |
sergot_: that's a bit shift to the right. |
| 07:32 |
sergot_ |
I just wanted to figure out what does it do. :) |
| 07:33 |
masak |
sergot_: `15 +> 1` comes out the same as `15 div 2` |
| 07:33 |
masak |
sergot_: `15 +> 2` comes out the same as `15 div 4` |
| 07:33 |
masak |
and so on. |
| 07:33 |
masak |
shifting to the right is the same as repeatedly div-ing by 2. |
| 07:33 |
masak |
shifting to the right... multiplying by 2. |
| 07:34 |
sergot_ |
masak++ it's clear now, thank you |
| 07:34 |
Ulti |
Perl6 version of https://github.com/exercism/xperl5 might be some good marketing, especially as they already distinguished perl as "Perl5" everywhere |
| 07:34 |
Ulti |
http://exercism.io/about for more info |
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FROGGS |
hehe, now it only takes 1.7s instead of 24s :o) |
| 07:45 |
jnthn |
:) |
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FROGGS |
m: "foo" ~~ /<word=:Ll>+/; say { :$<word>[0] } # sad that this does not end up as a hash though |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«-> ($_? is parcel) { #`(Block|139753093106152) ... }» |
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FROGGS |
(it does without the [0]) |
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masak |
m: say "still not talking to me?" |
| 08:04 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«still not talking to me?» |
| 08:04 |
masak |
ooh, camelia! :> |
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moritz |
why wouldn't she talk to you? |
| 08:05 |
masak |
I don't know. never happened to me before. |
| 08:06 |
masak |
see 09:28 .. 09:32 |
| 08:09 |
FROGGS |
there was a netsplit |
| 08:10 |
FROGGS |
[09:37] * camelia hat die Verbindung getrennt (*.net *.split) |
| 08:14 |
masak |
oh! |
| 08:14 |
masak |
FROGGS++ |
| 08:14 |
masak |
camelia: all is forgiven ;) |
| 08:15 |
moritz |
.oO( you're forgiven, not forgotten ) |
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jnthn |
lol I'm on stage \o/ |
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FROGGS |
hehe |
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* FROGGS |
throws an applause event to jnthn's on_stage handler |
| 08:29 |
jnthn |
\o/ |
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moritz |
.oO( jnthn has entered the building! ) |
| 08:32 |
masak |
...and just like that, he's gone again :P |
| 08:32 |
masak |
he swept through the room, touching our hearts like only jnthn can. |
| 08:33 |
masak |
the presence is gone, but the memory lingers. |
| 08:33 |
moritz |
masak, our resident channel poet. |
| 08:34 |
* masak |
strums his lyre artfully |
| 08:35 |
masak |
<masak> shifting to the right... multiplying by 2. # <-- oops, s/right/left/ |
| 08:35 |
masak |
I hate those two directions. |
| 08:35 |
FROGGS |
my wife++ only knows left and the other left :o) |
| 08:36 |
FROGGS |
ohhh, Sqirrel_ is online... *cough* |
| 08:36 |
masak |
:> |
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lizmat |
.... and jnthn's on! |
| 08:43 |
masak |
TimToady: I went back to A03 to try to find the exact birth moment of infix:<~~> and smartmatching. all I got from A03 was that back in October 2001, we didn't yet have either. |
| 08:44 |
masak |
TimToady: do you remember when smartmatching arrived in Perl 6? and how sync'd was it with the arrival of smartmatching in Perl 5.10? |
| 08:45 |
lizmat |
well, 5.10 was 2007 :-) |
| 08:49 |
masak |
smartmatching was implemented in 5.9.3 (2006-01-28), and made default in 5.9.5 (2007-06-07). |
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masak |
the Perl 6 synopsis logs don't go back far enough, so results are inconclusive. the first mention of "smart match" is from 2006-10-02. |
| 08:51 |
masak |
probably the IRC logs will have more clues. |
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nwc10 |
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.language/2006/02/msg24670.html |
| 08:53 |
masak |
au++ mentioning smart matching in 2005-02-26: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2005-02-26#i_-799741 |
| 08:53 |
masak |
note that at that point, we don't have the * < 3 syntax. :) |
| 08:54 |
nwc10 |
also, back then, smartmatch was symetrical |
| 08:54 |
masak |
yes, I know. that's what ended up in 5.10 |
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masak |
right now I want to find out "who was inspired by whom". |
| 08:55 |
masak |
I think I just proved that smartmatching showed up first in Perl 6. |
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nwc10 |
Perl 6 inspired Perl 5 |
| 08:56 |
nwc10 |
sorry, didn't realise that that was the question |
| 08:56 |
nwc10 |
and Robin Houston implemented the then-current symmetrical smartmatch |
| 08:56 |
masak |
somewhere between 2001 and 2005, smartmatching and the infix:<~~> syntax happened in the Perl 6 spec. (the "synopses" didn't exist back then) |
| 08:56 |
nwc10 |
somewhat as a side effect of sitting next to me at the London Perl Workshop and sketching out an idea for how, and me saying "go for it" (as in, try to make it work) |
| 08:57 |
masak |
nice :) |
| 08:57 |
masak |
so was someone giving a talk about Perl 6 smartmatching? |
| 08:57 |
masak |
so, was that LPW 2005? |
| 08:57 |
nwc10 |
no, no-one was |
| 08:57 |
masak |
oh, ok. |
| 08:57 |
nwc10 |
it was just a "corridor track" talk |
| 08:57 |
nwc10 |
chat |
| 08:58 |
masak |
ah. |
| 08:58 |
nwc10 |
but it caused a world of pain |
| 08:58 |
nwc10 |
because smartmatch really needs a type system |
| 08:58 |
nwc10 |
and we didn't know that |
| 08:58 |
nwc10 |
and we didn't track "this week" |
| 08:59 |
masak |
*nod* |
| 08:59 |
masak |
yes, smartmatching needs a type system. that's common knowledge over here in #perl6, I think. :) |
| 09:00 |
masak |
aka "Perl 6 is not a menu which you can pick and choose from" :) |
| 09:00 |
nwc10 |
"this week". But "last week" |
| 09:00 |
nwc10 |
? |
| 09:01 |
masak |
I don't understand the question. could you elaborate? |
| 09:01 |
nwc10 |
oh, I don't know if #perl6 knew the real necessity of the type system back in 2005 |
| 09:05 |
masak |
certainly not. |
| 09:06 |
masak |
I first heard that meme two or three years ago. |
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jnthn |
phew, talk done |
| 09:33 |
jnthn |
:) |
| 09:34 |
jnthn |
Was some fun for me. I hope for others too :) |
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lizmat |
yes it was :-) and even some questions! :-) |
| 09:34 |
masak |
jnthn++ # it was fun |
| 09:35 |
jnthn |
Hopefully more questions in the hallway track too :) |
| 09:36 |
masak |
is there any way to delegate to STD::term in a user-supplied grammar? |
| 09:37 |
jnthn |
masak: surely not easily, given the amount of dynvars and other bits Perl 6 uses in its parser. |
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sergot_ |
m: use Test; sub a() { }; ok not a(), 'a'; |
| 09:43 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«ok 1 - a» |
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sergot_ |
m: use Test; sub a() { return Any; }; ok not a(), 'a'; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«ok 1 - a» |
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* jnthn |
notes his talk was videoed here too |
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jnthn |
That means 3 confs have now videoed the talk. "Always have backups." :) |
| 09:50 |
masak |
:> |
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dalek |
mu: d397723 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | docs/Perl6/Cheatsheet/cheatsheet. (2 files): |
| 09:57 |
dalek |
mu: Add Supply as a Type to cheatsheet |
| 09:57 |
dalek |
mu: review: https://github.com/perl6/mu/commit/d397723f92 |
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sergot_ |
m: say "a:$_," for [1, 2, 3]; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«a:1 2 3,» |
| 10:00 |
sergot_ |
what am I doing wrong? ;) |
| 10:00 |
sergot_ |
m: say [1, 2, 3].WHAT |
| 10:00 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«(Array)» |
| 10:00 |
jnthn |
[...] is a single item |
| 10:00 |
FROGGS |
m: say "a:$_," for 1, 2, 3; |
| 10:00 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«a:1,a:2,a:3,» |
| 10:00 |
FROGGS |
m: say "a:$_," for (1, 2, 3); |
| 10:00 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«a:1,a:2,a:3,» |
| 10:00 |
FROGGS |
[ ] and $ itemizes |
| 10:01 |
FROGGS |
m: say "a:$_," for $(1, 2, 3); |
| 10:01 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«a:1 2 3,» |
| 10:01 |
sergot_ |
hmm |
| 10:01 |
FROGGS |
you can think of [ ] being a single array reference like in P5... if you have a P5 background :o) |
| 10:02 |
sergot_ |
I have :) |
| 10:02 |
sergot_ |
ok, thanks :) |
| 10:02 |
masak |
sergot_: this thinko also variously shows up as |
| 10:02 |
masak |
m: my @l = [1, 2, 3]; say @l.elems |
| 10:02 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«1» |
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| 10:07 |
sergot_ |
Is there any class that every Array, parcel (and others iterable @ classes) intherit from? |
| 10:08 |
sergot_ |
inherit* |
| 10:08 |
sergot_ |
m: say "a:$_," for <1 2 3>; |
| 10:09 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«a:1,a:2,a:3,» |
| 10:09 |
jnthn |
They all do Positional role, |
| 10:09 |
masak |
m: say Array ~~ Positional; say Parcel ~~ Positional |
| 10:09 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«TrueTrue» |
| 10:09 |
sergot_ |
jnthn++ masak++ thanks |
| 10:09 |
masak |
m: say Array.^mro; say Positional.^mro |
| 10:09 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«(Array) (List) (Iterable) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)(Positional) (Any) (Mu)» |
| 10:09 |
Ven |
Shouldn't arrays be in $-variables rather than @ ? |
| 10:09 |
masak |
Ven: arrays *are* @ variables. |
| 10:10 |
jnthn |
r: my @a; say @a.WHAT |
| 10:10 |
camelia |
rakudo-{parrot,jvm,moar} c382c7: OUTPUT«(Array)» |
| 10:10 |
masak |
they are not *in* them. |
| 10:10 |
Ven |
duhu |
| 10:11 |
sergot_ |
m: say List.^mro; |
| 10:11 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«(List) (Iterable) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)» |
| 10:11 |
Ven |
m: $(1, 2, 3).WAT |
| 10:11 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«No such method 'WAT' for invocant of type 'Parcel' in block at /tmp/A7YWTGN4CZ:1» |
| 10:11 |
masak |
.WHAT |
| 10:11 |
masak |
and you forgot 'say' |
| 10:11 |
Ven |
I got what I wanted anyway :) |
| 10:13 |
sergot_ |
m: my %a; my $value = 123; %a{b}.push: ($value) # hey, I want it to be an array! :) |
| 10:13 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/8_dnN2br9A�Undeclared routine:� b used at line 1��» |
| 10:13 |
sergot_ |
m: my %a; my $value = 123; %a{'b'}.push: ($value) # hey, I want it to be an array! :) |
| 10:13 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: ( no output ) |
| 10:13 |
sergot_ |
m: my %a; my $value = 123; %a{'b'}.push: ($value); say %a<b>.WHAT # hey, I want it to be an array! :) |
| 10:13 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«(Array)» |
| 10:13 |
sergot_ |
oh, it's |
| 10:17 |
masak |
"oh, it is". you can't contract at the end of a sentence, for some reason. ;) |
| 10:18 |
sergot_ |
masak++ thanks! :) |
| 10:18 |
jnthn |
wow, English is arbitrary sometimes... |
| 10:18 |
tobiasvl |
jnthn: most of the time actually |
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| 10:19 |
masak |
all languages are arbritary to some extent. |
| 10:19 |
tobiasvl |
ghoti |
| 10:19 |
sergot_ |
m: my %H = <a 1>; %H<a>.push: 2; say %H<a>; |
| 10:19 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«Cannot call 'push'; none of these signatures match::(Any:U \SELF: *@values, *%_) in block at /tmp/WqvmuYVLzw:1» |
| 10:19 |
sergot_ |
m: my %H = <a 1>; %H<a>.push: (2); say %H<a>; |
| 10:19 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«Cannot call 'push'; none of these signatures match::(Any:U \SELF: *@values, *%_) in block at /tmp/8SP1qox21o:1» |
| 10:19 |
jnthn |
haha :) |
| 10:20 |
jnthn |
Yeah, English spelling is mostly awful |
| 10:20 |
sergot_ |
here it is. I want this (2) to be an array! :) |
| 10:20 |
jnthn |
Then make it one |
| 10:21 |
jnthn |
m: my %h = a => [1]; %h<a>.push: 2; say %h<a> |
| 10:21 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«1 2» |
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| 10:22 |
masak |
hmmm... |
| 10:22 |
masak |
m: class C { has $.a; method foo { say $.a } }; C.new(:a(42)).foo |
| 10:22 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«42» |
| 10:22 |
masak |
m: class C { has $a; method foo { say $a } }; C.new(:a(42)).foo |
| 10:22 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«(Any)» |
| 10:22 |
masak |
this seems wrong. I would expect 42 in the second case, too. |
| 10:23 |
* masak |
goes to S12 to try to confirm this |
| 10:23 |
jnthn |
masak: No, it's private then |
| 10:23 |
jnthn |
Has to be $.a |
| 10:23 |
jnthn |
For new to see it's public |
| 10:23 |
lizmat |
.oO( "it's".then( LibertyBell.cue ).then( Foot ) ) |
| 10:24 |
masak |
jnthn: ah, that explains it. |
| 10:24 |
masak |
I will notify lichtkind of this while he's not busy giving a talk ;) |
| 10:24 |
jnthn |
Yes |
| 10:24 |
jnthn |
:) |
| 10:24 |
sergot_ |
m: my %h = a => [1]; %h<a>.push: 2; say "|$_" for %h<a>; |
| 10:24 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«|1 2» |
| 10:25 |
masak |
yes, S12 confirms this. |
| 10:25 |
jnthn |
m: my %h = a => [1]; %h<a>.push: 2; say "|$_" for @%h<a>; |
| 10:25 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===postcircumfix:<{ }> not defined for type List» |
| 10:25 |
masak |
has $brain; # also declares $!brain; |
| 10:25 |
jnthn |
oops |
| 10:25 |
jnthn |
m: my %h = a => [1]; %h<a>.push: 2; say "|$_" for %h<a>.list; |
| 10:25 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«|1|2» |
| 10:25 |
sergot_ |
jnthn++ thank you :) |
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| 10:26 |
masak |
m: class Pinky { has $brain; method foo { say $brain } }; Pinky.new(:brain<meheheheheh>).foo |
| 10:26 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«(Any)» |
| 10:26 |
masak |
m: class Pinky { has $brain = "meheheheheh"; method foo { say $brain } }; Pinky.new.foo |
| 10:26 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«meheheheheh» |
| 10:26 |
masak |
\o/ |
| 10:27 |
lizmat |
I think it is mentioned somewhere that you can leave off the ! in "has $brain" |
| 10:27 |
masak |
oh, he even mentioned it just now. lichtkind++ :) |
| 10:27 |
masak |
lizmat: yes, see above at 12:25 ;) |
| 10:28 |
lizmat |
ack |
| 10:28 |
lizmat |
(oops) |
| 10:28 |
jnthn |
What...cats trusting dogs?! |
| 10:28 |
jnthn |
:P |
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| 10:30 |
masak |
jnthn: Perl 6 makes the impossible easy! :P |
| 10:31 |
jnthn |
lichtkind++ has big text on his slides and speaks slower, so I can follow more of this one :) |
| 10:32 |
masak |
lichtkind++ indeed |
| 10:35 |
masak |
m: class C is mgwhagrbl {} |
| 10:35 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/oVnsoGnIJ4�'C' cannot inherit from 'mgwhagrbl' because it is unknown.�at /tmp/oVnsoGnIJ4:1�------> �» |
| 10:35 |
masak |
that is a *good* error message. |
| 10:35 |
masak |
whoever++ |
| 10:42 |
masak |
m: role R1 {}; role R2 {}; class C { also does R1 does R2 }; say "alive" |
| 10:42 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«alive» |
| 10:43 |
masak |
ooh, didn't know you could chain 'does' there. |
| 10:43 |
masak |
m: role R1 { method foo {} }; role R2 { method foo {} }; class C { also does R1 does R2 }; say "alive" |
| 10:43 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===Method 'foo' must be resolved by class C because it exists in multiple roles (R2, R1)» |
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| 10:43 |
masak |
nice. |
| 10:43 |
lizmat |
again a good error message :-) |
| 10:43 |
masak |
yep :) |
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| 10:43 |
moritz |
uhm, why? those aren't stubs. |
| 10:43 |
masak |
moritz: method conflict between roles. |
| 10:44 |
masak |
moritz: (read the error message) :P |
| 10:44 |
moritz |
oh |
| 10:44 |
* moritz |
reads |
| 10:44 |
masak |
aka "why roles are nice" |
| 10:45 |
jnthn |
lunch :) |
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| 11:39 |
skids |
masak: The bug last night was a riff off dwarring++ discovering odd behavior yesterday. He thought it was +>, but it goes less deep than that. |
| 11:39 |
skids |
So he may have filed, I dunno. |
| 11:39 |
* skids |
commute. |
| 11:45 |
masak |
dwarring: did you? :) |
| 11:48 |
* jnthn |
obedoval :) |
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masak |
lichtkind++ was happy when I told him I learned about 'also does R1 does R2' during his talk. :) |
| 12:06 |
masak |
(I knew that you could 'does R1 does R2' in the class header, and I knew about 'also does R', but I didn't know you could also-does several roles in the same statement.) |
| 12:08 |
masak |
oh, apparently the parsing works by doing <trait>+ |
| 12:08 |
masak |
so you should be able to mix 'does' and 'is' and other traits ad lib. |
| 12:11 |
Ulti |
"string".flip and not .reverse or .rev was my third guess |
| 12:11 |
Ulti |
is reverse on lists? |
| 12:12 |
masak |
yes. |
| 12:13 |
lizmat |
masak is now on |
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masak |
masak is now off |
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FROGGS |
:o) |
| 13:06 |
FROGGS |
looks like you guys/girls have fun :o) |
| 13:08 |
moritz |
at least on and off :-) |
| 13:10 |
masak |
:) |
| 13:11 |
masak |
wendy is currently on. |
| 13:11 |
masak |
er, woolfy++ |
| 13:20 |
retupmoca |
r: say ('x' ~~ /<print>/) |
| 13:20 |
camelia |
rakudo-jvm c382c7: OUTPUT«Cursor<294795359>Cursor<380825084>java.lang.RuntimeException: No such attribute '$!pos' for this object in method ACCEPTS at gen/jvm/CORE.setting:13079 in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1» |
| 13:20 |
camelia |
..rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«Cursor<139761133568496>Cursor<139761133615816>P6opaque: no such attribute '$!pos' in method ACCEPTS at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:13136 in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1» |
| 13:20 |
camelia |
..rakudo-parrot c382c7: OUTPUT«Cursor<450694000491971999>Cursor<450694000489389709>Can not get attribute '$!pos' declared in class 'Cursor' with this object in regex at /tmp/tmpfile:1 in method ACCEPTS at gen/parrot/CORE.setting:13102 in method ACCEPTS at gen/parrot/CORE.…» |
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| 13:30 |
lizmat |
and woolfy is off :-) *phew* the beamer didn't take her screen resolution, so we had to use mine |
| 13:32 |
* masak |
.oO( it's always a bit unsettling to lend your screen resolution to someone else ) |
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| 13:36 |
masak |
pugs: 2 = 4 |
| 13:36 |
camelia |
pugs: OUTPUT«*** Can't modify constant item: VInt 2 at /tmp/7ovGn3oV7a line 1, column 1 - line 2, column 1» |
| 13:37 |
masak |
that error message is more awesome (or at least less LTA) than Rakudo's. |
| 13:37 |
masak |
m: 2 = 4 |
| 13:37 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«No such method 'STORE' for invocant of type 'Int' in block at /tmp/xRjF7XzSnx:1» |
| 13:37 |
* lizmat |
thinks about adding an Any.STORE method that would throw an appropriate exception |
| 13:37 |
lizmat |
is that a plan? |
| 13:38 |
moritz |
I think that's the wrong direction |
| 13:38 |
moritz |
adding methods that alway die confuses the hell out of introspection |
| 13:39 |
moritz |
r: 2 = 4 |
| 13:39 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«No such method 'STORE' for invocant of type 'Int' in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1» |
| 13:39 |
camelia |
..rakudo-{parrot,jvm} c382c7: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable value in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1» |
| 13:39 |
moritz |
the correct approach is to find out how the parrot and JVM backends manage to produce the better error, and mimic that in the moar backend |
| 13:41 |
Ven |
moritz: unless .^can('STORE') { fail "Immutable, too bad !" } ? |
| 13:41 |
moritz |
Ven: is that what the other backends do? |
| 13:41 |
Ven |
moritz: no idea. Probably not - doesn't look very sensible to me |
| 13:42 |
FROGGS |
look at #moarvm, it happens in nqp (code-gen) |
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masak |
moritz++ # architectural steering |
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yakudza |
@tudorconstantin Full #Perl description in just one image pic.twitter.com/t0nmSw9y0u |
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lizmat |
looks like X::Assignment::RO is not being thrown in the Moar case |
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| 14:00 |
jnthn |
Right |
| 14:00 |
jnthn |
I wonder how we factor that out |
| 14:00 |
jnthn |
Or if we should |
| 14:00 |
jnthn |
Oh... |
| 14:01 |
jnthn |
Maybe we should just intercept STORE dispatch failing |
| 14:01 |
jnthn |
src/Perl6/Metamodel/BOOTSTRAP.nqp2930 |
| 14:01 |
FROGGS |
yakudza: :o) |
| 14:01 |
jnthn |
*:2930 |
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jnthn |
In there it's possible to reach the thingy to throw the assignment error from P6EX |
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| 14:14 |
btyler |
oh! panda is compiling again. not sure I understand why -- don't see any commits oriented that way |
| 14:14 |
jnthn |
btyler: I worked out which commit messed it up and backed it out |
| 14:14 |
jnthn |
It was a more minor optimization |
| 14:15 |
jnthn |
I'll revisit it, and now know how to reproduce the issue. |
| 14:15 |
lizmat |
working on *:2930 |
| 14:16 |
btyler |
jnthn: oh, gotcha. sorry, I misunderstood you when you said it'll wait until after release |
| 14:16 |
Ven |
can I get the list of classes/roles defined in a class ? |
| 14:18 |
jnthn |
btyler: Right. Anyway, Panda is working again with r-m/spesh :) |
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| 14:20 |
Ulti |
is doing self.WHAT.new(); ok or gross? |
| 14:20 |
lizmat |
what's wrong with self.new ? |
| 14:20 |
PerlJam |
r: class W { class C {}; class X { } }; say W::.keys |
| 14:20 |
camelia |
rakudo-{parrot,jvm,moar} c382c7: OUTPUT«C X» |
| 14:20 |
PerlJam |
Ven: like that? |
| 14:21 |
Ulti |
well I am in the parent class so wasnt sure if self.new would be the parent or the child |
| 14:21 |
Ven |
m: class W { method a {}; has $.k; class X {}; class Y {} }; say W::.keys |
| 14:21 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«X Y» |
| 14:21 |
Ven |
PerlJam: yep, thanks |
| 14:22 |
Ven |
PerlJam: what I'm trying to do, basically, is to foreach the classes declared in X, and install all the methods of the base class into the parent's class, with a prefixed name |
| 14:22 |
Ven |
(just trying to adapt some ruby code) |
| 14:22 |
masak |
m: say "a" cmp "b" |
| 14:22 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«Less» |
| 14:22 |
masak |
m: say Less.WHAT |
| 14:22 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«(Order)» |
| 14:22 |
masak |
m: say Order::.keys |
| 14:22 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«Less Same More» |
| 14:22 |
PerlJam |
Ven: you wouldn't just use delegation? |
| 14:23 |
masak |
m: say +Less |
| 14:23 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«-1» |
| 14:23 |
Ven |
PerlJam: I want to make it a trait, or a is. |
| 14:23 |
Ven |
PerlJam: if you can read ruby, my current code is here https://gist.github.com/Nami-Doc/3190490d3a3e900178c1 |
| 14:23 |
masak |
m: say Less == More |
| 14:23 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«False» |
| 14:23 |
masak |
m: say abs(Less) == abs(More) # hee hee |
| 14:23 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«True» |
| 14:24 |
sergot_ |
:D |
| 14:24 |
masak |
RELEASE IS DAY AFTER TOMORROW |
| 14:25 |
masak |
WE STILL DON'T HAVE A RELEASE MANAGER |
| 14:25 |
jnthn |
/o\ |
| 14:25 |
masak |
I've been asking people *twice* to volunteer... |
| 14:25 |
masak |
are people especially busy this month? |
| 14:25 |
* jnthn |
kinda is :P |
| 14:25 |
masak |
look, I can do it. |
| 14:25 |
* FROGGS |
is not even listening :P |
| 14:25 |
FROGGS |
*lalalala* |
| 14:25 |
masak |
someone sign up for some other month, and I'll sign up for Thursday. |
| 14:26 |
_sri |
shut up and come to mojoconf! |
| 14:26 |
FROGGS |
I can do that also, just need somebody to put up the tarballs |
| 14:26 |
moritz |
FROGGS: just /msg me your public key |
| 14:26 |
masak |
FROGGS: are you volunteering for Thursday? |
| 14:26 |
FROGGS |
ohh ohh ohh, I will do it on Thu when jnthn reviews my label stuff *g* |
| 14:27 |
moritz |
now that's just evil politics :-) |
| 14:27 |
masak |
FROGGS: please add yourself to the list in the release guide. |
| 14:27 |
FROGGS |
hehe |
| 14:27 |
FROGGS |
masak: k |
| 14:27 |
jnthn |
FROGGS: Well, I *have* just about finished my talk for tomorrow :) |
| 14:27 |
masak |
I love it when a plan comes together. |
| 14:27 |
sergot_ |
I can do this to, but better not this time, I don't know steps and stuff. :) |
| 14:27 |
moritz |
I can also do a release, but I'd propose I do the star release instead |
| 14:27 |
masak |
moritz: deal. |
| 14:27 |
PerlJam |
sergot_: they are documented in the release guide |
| 14:27 |
masak |
sergot_: please sign up for later this year. |
| 14:27 |
FROGGS |
sergot_: there will be another chance :o) |
| 14:27 |
masak |
sergot_: it's really not hard. |
| 14:28 |
masak |
sergot_: and you will feel better for it. |
| 14:28 |
sergot_ |
great, so, next month maybe? |
| 14:28 |
FROGGS |
and we are there to help and guide |
| 14:28 |
masak |
sergot_: yes! :) |
| 14:28 |
sergot_ |
deal! :) |
| 14:28 |
* masak |
.oO( *now* they come out of the woodworks... ) |
| 14:28 |
PerlJam |
masak: better than never ;) |
| 14:28 |
masak |
troo |
| 14:29 |
hoelzro |
morning #perl6 |
| 14:29 |
masak |
but it had to come to all-caps... |
| 14:29 |
PerlJam |
masak: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. |
| 14:29 |
* masak |
.oO( cruise control for awesome ) |
| 14:29 |
sergot_ |
It looks like a boring stuff when you don't want to do this so much. :) |
| 14:30 |
itz |
what's the perl6 equiv of my (undef, $a, $b) =? |
| 14:30 |
moritz |
m: my (*, $a, $b) = <a b c>; say $a |
| 14:30 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/f2iBje8_x1�Malformed parameter�at /tmp/f2iBje8_x1:1�------> [32mmy ([33m�[31m*, $a, $b) = <a b c>; say $a[0m� expecting any of:� scoped declarator�» |
| 14:30 |
moritz |
grml |
| 14:31 |
moritz |
m: my ($, $a, $b) = <a b c>; say $a |
| 14:31 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«b» |
| 14:31 |
moritz |
itz: just use an anonymous variable |
| 14:31 |
flussence |
m: my (, $a, $b) = ^4; say $a, $b; |
| 14:31 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/8BXDUNlflh�Malformed parameter�at /tmp/8BXDUNlflh:1�------> [32mmy ([33m�[31m, $a, $b) = ^4; say $a, $b;[0m� expecting any of:� scoped declarator�» |
| 14:31 |
itz |
moritz: thanks |
| 14:31 |
Ven |
flussence: $ |
| 14:31 |
moritz |
speaking of which |
| 14:31 |
* PerlJam |
wishes P5 would adopt that little bit of syntax |
| 14:31 |
masak |
PerlJam: but what about $, ? |
| 14:31 |
moritz |
sometimes I wish for the opposite: a parameter with a name that's not bound to a variable |
| 14:32 |
itz |
my (undef) always seemed ok |
| 14:32 |
masak |
PerlJam: and $) ? |
| 14:32 |
moritz |
for multi candidate($a, :$marker!) { } |
| 14:32 |
PerlJam |
masak: that's why we have really smart compilers :) |
| 14:32 |
moritz |
where I never use the $marker |
| 14:32 |
masak |
itz: Perl 6 doesn't have undef as such. |
| 14:32 |
masak |
m: undef |
| 14:32 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/2ho0lWJ5oa�Unsupported use of undef as a value; in Perl 6 please use something more specific:� Any (the "whatever" type object),� an undefined type object such as Int,� :!defined as a matche…» |
| 14:32 |
sergot_ |
m: $ |
| 14:32 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/PvzBmHoWDB�Non-declarative sigil is missing its name�at /tmp/PvzBmHoWDB:1�------> [32m<BOL>[33m�[31m$[0m� expecting any of:� statement list� prefix or term� …» |
| 14:32 |
Ven |
m: sub f { state $; } # :( |
| 14:32 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/8aQ_dmPM2V�Unsupported use of $; variable; in Perl 6 please use real multidimensional hashes�at /tmp/8aQ_dmPM2V:1�------> [32msub f { state $;[33m�[31m } # :([0m�» |
| 14:32 |
masak |
m: sub f { state $ ; } |
| 14:32 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: ( no output ) |
| 14:32 |
JimmyZ |
std: $ |
| 14:33 |
camelia |
std ec3d853: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m�Non-declarative sigil is missing its name at /tmp/Owdaz0pTug line 1:�------> [32m<BOL>[33m�[31m$[0m�Use of uninitialized value $first in string eq at STD.pm line 67059.�Use of uninitialized value $first in string lt at…» |
| 14:33 |
masak |
m: sub f { state $ } |
| 14:33 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar c382c7: ( no output ) |
| 14:33 |
Ven |
it does parse tho hhehe |
| 14:33 |
Ven |
masak: yea, yea, I know :-) |
| 14:33 |
Ven |
.oO( I just invented global variables ) |
| 14:34 |
jnthn |
:P |
| 14:35 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: 078fe52 | (Tobias Leich)++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
| 14:35 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: add myself for release on May 22 |
| 14:35 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/078fe52116 |
| 14:38 |
masak |
FROGGS++ |
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| 14:39 |
masak |
sergot: where's your commit? :) |
| 14:43 |
sergot |
masak: here is my pull request: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/271 |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: 645d17f | sergot++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: add myself for release #77 |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/645d17f871 |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: a73305b | (Tobias Leich)++ | docs/release_guide.pod: |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: Merge pull request #271 from sergot/nom |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: add myself for release #77 |
| 14:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/a73305b4ea |
| 14:44 |
sergot |
\o/ |
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| 14:47 |
sergot |
So much motivation after plpw. |
| 14:48 |
jnthn |
*So motivation |
| 14:48 |
jnthn |
;) |
| 14:48 |
sergot |
agrh, thanks jnthn++ |
| 14:49 |
jnthn |
sergot: uh, sorry, that was naughty of me. "So motivation" is the doge meme way to write it :) |
| 14:49 |
masak |
so confuse. |
| 14:49 |
sergot |
haha :D |
| 14:49 |
masak |
sergot: you don't have a commit bit to rakudo? |
| 14:50 |
sergot |
I don't, I'm only a member of perl6 organization |
| 14:50 |
masak |
sergot: may I recommend that you do something about that before relase #77? :) |
| 14:51 |
masak |
(send in the CLA, I mean) |
| 14:51 |
sergot |
masak: yeees? :) |
| 14:51 |
masak |
(it's called CLA, right? is that the right TLA?) :P |
| 14:52 |
masak |
is this process documented anywhere? |
| 14:52 |
JimmyZ |
LTA |
| 14:52 |
masak |
JimmyZ: :P |
| 14:52 |
JimmyZ |
:P |
| 14:52 |
jnthn |
Also, we can grant a temporary commit bit in order to do a release. |
| 14:52 |
jnthn |
(without CLA) |
| 14:53 |
jnthn |
Or can be PR'd of course... |
| 14:53 |
jnthn |
But easier with the commit bit. |
| 14:54 |
sergot |
I can send the CLA actually. |
| 14:54 |
jnthn |
ok :) |
| 14:54 |
jnthn |
Better still |
| 14:55 |
sergot |
Where can I find it ? |
| 14:55 |
PerlJam |
http://www.perlfoundation.org/contributor_license_agreement |
| 14:55 |
Ven |
signing CLA is needed for commit bit ? |
| 14:58 |
tadzik |
for rakudo, yes |
| 14:58 |
lizmat |
yes |
| 14:58 |
lizmat |
for rakudo that is |
| 14:59 |
masak |
yes it is -- for rakudo. |
| 14:59 |
Ven |
ETOMANYCONFIRMATION |
| 14:59 |
Ven |
s/TO/TOO |
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* Ven |
sighs |
| 15:00 |
PerlJam |
Ven: wait ... wait ... no ... yes, you need it for a commit bit to rakudo. |
| 15:00 |
PerlJam |
;) |
| 15:00 |
Ven |
thanks PerlJam. |
| 15:00 |
sergot |
PerlJam++: thanks |
| 15:00 |
masak |
I should add that it's only for Rakudo that you need a CLA. |
| 15:01 |
sergot |
Why so? |
| 15:01 |
PerlJam |
masak: good point. maybe we should reiterate that. |
| 15:01 |
jnthn |
Did anybody mention today that Rakudo needs a CLA for a commit bit? |
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| 15:01 |
jnthn |
:P |
| 15:01 |
jnthn |
It's to do with the compilation copyright, iirc. |
| 15:01 |
masak |
sergot: because you need a CLA to get a commit bit for Rakudo. |
| 15:01 |
Ven |
jnthn: hey, what's this thing that requires CLA already ? |
| 15:01 |
masak |
Rakudo. |
| 15:02 |
Ven |
masak: are you part of the tautology club :P ? |
| 15:02 |
masak |
no, but part of the tautology club is. |
| 15:02 |
Ven |
masak++ |
| 15:02 |
sergot |
haha :) |
| 15:03 |
masak |
moritz: suggestion -- throws_like should be in Test.pm, not Test::Util. |
| 15:03 |
sergot |
I was just wondering why it's only rakudo that requires cla. |
| 15:04 |
moritz |
masak: now that it uses proper subtests, I'm all for it |
| 15:04 |
* sergot |
is printing the CLA |
| 15:04 |
masak |
sergot: the real reason is that Rakudo used to be part of the Parrot repo, and the Parrot repo requires a CLA. |
| 15:04 |
moritz |
masak: (previously it ran a variable number of tests, which I deemed not good enough for Test.pm6) |
| 15:04 |
masak |
moritz: ok, adding it to Test.pm now. |
| 15:05 |
moritz |
another "real reason" iirc is that pmichaud++ did some of the rakudo work under a TPF grant, and the grant application talked about the CLA, or something along these lines |
| 15:05 |
lizmat |
moritz, masak: I'll take care of that |
| 15:05 |
masak |
ok, delegating to lizmat++. |
| 15:06 |
jnthn |
+1 |
| 15:06 |
moritz |
++lizmat |
| 15:06 |
jnthn |
FROGGS: OK, for labels there are branches in all(MoarVM, NQP, Rakudo) to review? |
| 15:06 |
sergot |
masak: now it's clear |
| 15:07 |
FROGGS |
jnthn: yes, loop_labels in moar and nqp, loop_labels_test in rakudo |
| 15:07 |
Ven |
TPF ? |
| 15:07 |
FROGGS |
the peril foundation |
| 15:07 |
Ven |
.oO( pmichaud is in peril, help him !) |
| 15:07 |
masak |
the purring foundation |
| 15:08 |
FROGGS |
purrfect* |
| 15:08 |
masak |
:D |
| 15:08 |
Ven |
.oO( pmichaud is in peril, help him !) |
| 15:08 |
jnthn |
FROGGS: Thanks. :) |
| 15:09 |
FROGGS |
jnthn: I thank you :o) |
| 15:09 |
PerlJam |
Does that mean that loop labels will most likely be in this release? |
| 15:09 |
FROGGS |
PerlJam: if there is nothing wrong with the approach, yes |
| 15:10 |
moritz |
no; if the release is this Thursday, it might make sense to wait merging |
| 15:10 |
moritz |
*wait with merging |
| 15:10 |
FROGGS |
nooooooooooo |
| 15:10 |
jnthn |
Unless I find something terribly flawed, they can likely go in. |
| 15:10 |
Ven |
you'll get to update the feature matrix :P |
| 15:10 |
jnthn |
Given that FROGGS has discussed the approach along the way with me, I think that's unlikely. |
| 15:10 |
PerlJam |
FROGGS++ in any case :) |
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| 15:10 |
moritz |
FROGGS: I'm not the rlease manager, so it's just an opinion from me :-) |
| 15:10 |
jnthn |
FROGGS: I do assume you spectested... |
| 15:10 |
jnthn |
:) |
| 15:10 |
FROGGS |
jnthn: I think so :P |
| 15:11 |
FROGGS |
moritz: I am the current manager, luckily :D |
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jnthn |
FROGGS: "+ case MVM_EX_CAT_NEXT|MVM_EX_CAT_LABELED:" # I prefer whitespace around infixes ;) |
| 15:12 |
FROGGS |
noted |
| 15:13 |
FROGGS |
jnthn: also, I will squish the commits when I get your okay |
| 15:13 |
FROGGS |
then I'll also fix that |
| 15:13 |
masak |
lizmat, moritz: by the way, I found an output bug in throws_like -- the "\n" doesn't mesh well with subtests and indenting. should be separate &diag calls, methinks. |
| 15:13 |
masak |
will either of you patch it, or shall I? |
| 15:13 |
* moritz |
can't, atm |
| 15:14 |
masak |
I could fix it, but I got the impression that lizmat++ is currently putting throws_like into Test.pm |
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jnthn |
FROGGS[mobile]: About "+#define MVM_EX_CAT_HANDLER 8192", I think MVM_EX_CAT_FILTER may be a better name? |
| 15:20 |
FROGGS[mobile] |
ohh, I think it is not needed anymore since friday, but need to check |
| 15:20 |
jnthn |
oh, it went away |
| 15:20 |
jnthn |
well, partially |
| 15:21 |
jnthn |
nope, removed in headers too. yay. |
| 15:22 |
lizmat |
grr... for some reason, my connectivity is *extra* flaky :-( |
| 15:23 |
jnthn |
/* The label of the block the handler is attached to. */ |
| 15:23 |
jnthn |
- MVMint64 block_label; |
| 15:23 |
jnthn |
+ unsigned short block_label; |
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jnthn |
FROGGS[mobile]: I think comment wants updating, but also I'd say that the variable wnats calling label_reg. |
| 15:23 |
jnthn |
To go with block_reg |
| 15:23 |
FROGGS[mobile] |
k |
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PerlJam |
.oO( cat filter? Is this what cat herding requires? ) |
| 15:26 |
masak |
lizmat is having network problems. |
| 15:26 |
masak |
she says as soon as she gets network back, she'll push a commit. |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: eb4f552 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | tools/build/Makefile- (3 files): |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: We need VM to be done before Distro |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/eb4f552d49 |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: 2ea11cc | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core/Exception.pm: |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: Add "typename" attribute to RO.new.throw; |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/2ea11cc757 |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: 10ceb28 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/Perl6/Metamodel/BOOTSTRAP.nqp: |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: Intercept method not found error for STORE |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: So that we can give a better than LTA error message |
| 15:28 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/10ceb2895c |
| 15:28 |
jnthn |
social & |
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PerlJam |
I was thinking about what masak said in relation to obtaining a commit bit: <masak> is this process documented anywhere? So, I started a document: https://gist.github.com/perlpilot/fa77db755054a50e62eb What do you think? Should I add it to rakudo/docs? |
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Ulti |
in Perl6 is there a variable for the current iteration of a for loop? |
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Ulti |
or am I crazy |
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timotimo |
no, but you can @list.kv -> $index, $_ { } |
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PerlJam |
Ulti: like $_? |
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yoleaux |
07:15Z <FROGGS> timotimo: that's wrong: If I understand correctly, the bug where MoarVM incorrectly turned nums into strings was fixed. Turns out it was forgetting about the ‘e’ inside scientific notation. |
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yoleaux |
07:16Z <FROGGS> timotimo: when coercing to a string it lost trailing zero's for scientific notation, when it only should strip these for \d+.\d+ looking floats |
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Ulti |
PerlJam: yeah but the number of times you have gone around the loop rather than what was passed in |
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PerlJam |
Ulti: so ... what timotimo said. |
| 16:01 |
Ulti |
ahhh k k |
| 16:01 |
timotimo |
Ulti: (state $num)++ |
| 16:02 |
Ulti |
also I am having a bit of trouble with .split it looks to be doing :all by default |
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PerlJam |
Ulti: show the code? |
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Ulti |
oh no its just including empty strings between repeated delimiters |
| 16:03 |
Ulti |
my bad |
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PerlJam |
once we have user-defined indexes on arrays, I suppose that for @thing.kv -> $i, $v {...} may not do what Ulti expected. (i.e., you'll get the user-defined keys rather than a 0-based index) |
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Ulti |
oh that is weird, so if I split on repeated delimiters I still get an empty string between what is the end of the string and the repeated delimiter |
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Ulti |
PerlJam someone would alter indexes even for the lists I have defined? |
| 16:07 |
Ulti |
sounds like a bad bad feature |
| 16:08 |
PerlJam |
Ulti: well, that someone would probably be you :) |
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TimToady |
we should just make state++ work :) |
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Ulti |
can I run p5 in here as well as p6? |
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Ulti |
m: for split /\*+/, "K**QK**" -> $string {say $string} |
| 16:11 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar a73305: OUTPUT«KQK» |
| 16:11 |
Ulti |
that last "" is both different to perl5 and kind of unexpected |
| 16:11 |
PerlJam |
TimToady: I suppose he could always say for @stuff[].kv -> $i, $v {...} to get the numeric indexes if @stuff.kv were to give the user-defined indexes. |
| 16:12 |
PerlJam |
or flip it the other way. @stuff.kv always gives the numeric indexes, and you must say @stuff{}.kv to get the user-defined indexes |
| 16:12 |
PerlJam |
or something like that. |
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* Ulti |
just used comb and got what he wanted |
| 16:14 |
Ulti |
though I still dont think split should be adding this extra boundary against the end of line |
| 16:15 |
PerlJam |
It doesn't. You're just too used to P5 dropping trailing empty fields. |
| 16:18 |
PerlJam |
Maybe split should have an option to drop the trailing empty fields too. (It may already, I didn't check the spec) |
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Ulti |
and I think that should be on by default given the normal use case of splitting a delimited line and doing something with the fields |
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timotimo |
i think split and join should round-trip without extra arguments |
| 16:19 |
Ulti |
like if I did a split on delimiter and pushed a field on the end and did a join I would have an empty column introduced to my data |
| 16:21 |
Ulti |
on the upside I just finished my 6frame translator stuff in Perl6 :D |
| 16:21 |
* PerlJam |
is with timotimo on this one. |
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* tadzik |
too |
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cognominal__ |
Ulti, what's a 6frame translator? |
| 16:34 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: 8b54788 | duff++ | docs/obtaining-a-commit-bit.pod: |
| 16:34 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: Add a document on how to get a commit bit |
| 16:34 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/8b54788970 |
| 16:35 |
PerlJam |
I decided on just commmitting it. If it helps, great. feel free to edit it |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: 8510a87 | moritz++ | src/Perl6/Metamodel/ParametricRoleGroupHOW.nqp: |
| 16:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: fix typo in comment |
| 16:43 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/8510a87332 |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: 05841b3 | moritz++ | docs/obtaining-a-commit-bit.pod: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Mention that typically the patches come first, then the commit bit |
| 16:45 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/05841b30cb |
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sobedrinker42 |
hello |
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PerlJam |
sobedrinker42: greetings |
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vendethiel |
Ooh, Lojack Absolute. |
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vendethiel |
Kinda glad to know I don't have this stuff on my comp; i'm not one of the 2mil with a backdoor :) |
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vendethiel |
TimToady: make "state++" work ? that seems a bit limiting |
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TimToady |
oh half serious, but (state$)++ seems to happen frequently |
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TimToady |
*only |
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vendethiel |
m: my \state = 5; say state; # ;D |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/zCWppMvM4f�Malformed state�at /tmp/zCWppMvM4f:1�------> [32mmy \state = 5; say state[33m�[31m; # ;D[0m� expecting any of:� scoped declarator�» |
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TimToady |
m: macro term:<counter> () { quasi { (state $)++ } }; say counter for <a b c d e>; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«AST.new()AST.new()AST.new()AST.new()AST.new()» |
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TimToady |
o_O |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { quasi { (state $)++ } }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable Mu in sub postfix:<++> at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:1868 in any at /tmp/IjPZfj3shU:1 in block at /tmp/IjPZfj3shU:1» |
| 17:29 |
TimToady |
say what? |
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TimToady |
m: say (state $)++ |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«0» |
| 17:30 |
TimToady |
masak: ^^^ |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { quasi { (state $foo)++ } }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
| 17:32 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable Mu in sub postfix:<++> at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:1868 in any at /tmp/BfIMKLpOXJ:1 in block at /tmp/BfIMKLpOXJ:1» |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { quasi { (state $foo = 0)++ } }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
| 17:32 |
camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable Mu in sub postfix:<++> at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:1868 in any at /tmp/skaNfzkZ2O:1 in block at /tmp/skaNfzkZ2O:1» |
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* TimToady |
is flummoxed |
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vendethiel |
m: macro counter () { state $foo; quasi {{{ $foo++ }}} }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«01234» |
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vendethiel |
:P |
| 17:33 |
vendethiel |
you can't find macros, they'll come back and bite you |
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vendethiel |
s/find/fight/ |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { state $foo; quasi {{{ $foo++ }}} }; say counter(), counter(), counter() |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«012» |
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TimToady |
wrong, those are supposed to be separate counters |
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TimToady |
and quasi doesn't need triple quotes |
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TimToady |
unquoting uses triples |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { quasi { state $foo; $foo++ } }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable Mu in sub postfix:<++> at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:1868 in any at /tmp/nVuJ3Ypajr:1 in block at /tmp/nVuJ3Ypajr:1» |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { quasi { { state $foo; $foo++ } } }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«01234» |
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TimToady |
for some reason needs extra {} there... |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { quasi { { (state $)++ } } }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«01234» |
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TimToady |
m: macro counter () { quasi { ( (state $)++ ) } }; say counter() for <a b c d e>; |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 10ceb2: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable Mu in sub postfix:<++> at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:1868 in any at /tmp/poFsXoscsM:1 in block at /tmp/poFsXoscsM:1» |
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TimToady |
extra parens not good enough |
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[Coke] |
-> (13:48) From Kazrak, to random: |
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[Coke] |
- "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu '#define OPENSSL_VMS' wgah'nagl fhtagn" |
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[Coke] |
http://albany.pm.org/slides/2014-05-19/unicodeandperl.pdf - one of our albany.pm folks put together a nice presentation on unicode & perl5. |
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FROGGS |
[Coke]: is that klingon? |
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FROGGS |
ahh, no :o) |
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[Coke] |
crap, I'm already signed up for august. |
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vendethiel |
TimToady: oh, you want to generate counters ? |
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vendethiel |
m: macro counter () { quasi { my anon sub { (state $ )++ } } }; say counter.(), counter.(), counter.() |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 05841b: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m�Type 'anon' is not declared�at /tmp/jLaonyjrLR:1�------> [32mmacro counter () { quasi { my anon[33m�[31m sub { (state $ )++ } } }; say counter.([0m�Malformed my�at /tmp/jLaonyjrLR:1�------> [32mmacro counte…» |
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vendethiel |
m: macro counter () { quasi { anon sub { (state $ )++ } } }; say counter.(), counter.(), counter.() |
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camelia |
rakudo-moar 05841b: OUTPUT«000» |
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vendethiel |
(or probably return a PROXY with a `FETCH` being `state++` |
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[Coke] |
me shouldbe unburied by august |
| 18:29 |
dalek |
nqp/loop_labels: 96ef351 | jonathan++ | src/NQP/Optimizer.nqp: |
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dalek |
nqp/loop_labels: Can also lower $_. |
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dalek |
nqp/loop_labels: |
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dalek |
nqp/loop_labels: Before, this earned us a SEGV in the Rakudo setting compile, but now |
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dalek |
nqp/loop_labels: that issue is fixed, we can do this optimization. |
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dalek |
Heuristic branch merge: pushed 29 commits to rakudo/loop_labels_test by FROGGS |
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* PerlJam |
thinks he has seen that "Can also lower $_" message before. |
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vendethiel |
PerlJam: yep, hence the "branch merge" :-) |
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FROGGS |
yeah, dalek just died away before showing it is a merge |
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tadzik |
btw, there was talk about including v5 in star |
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tadzik |
I'd vote for it to be the "first core" module, as lib.pm and Pod/To/Text.pm are |
| 18:46 |
PerlJam |
.oO( and Test.pm ) |
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FROGGS |
tadzik: it takes 3 minutes to build, and most of the included P5 core modules are just stubbed |
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flussence |
r: say '2014-05-20' ~~ / (\d+)+ % <[-/]> / |
| 18:48 |
camelia |
rakudo-jvm 05841b: OUTPUT«(timeout)» |
| 18:48 |
camelia |
..rakudo-{parrot,moar} 05841b: OUTPUT«[31m===[0mSORRY![31m===[0m Error while compiling /tmp/tmpfile�Unsupported use of - as character range; in Perl 6 please use .. for range, for explicit - in character class, escape it or place as last thing�at /tmp/tmpfile:1�------> [32m…» |
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flussence |
n: say '2014-05-20' ~~ / (\d+)+ % <[-/]> / |
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camelia |
niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«｢2014-05-20｣ 0 => ｢2014｣ 0 => ｢05｣ 0 => ｢20｣» |
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FROGGS |
std: say '2014-05-20' ~~ / (\d+)+ % <[-/]> / |
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camelia |
std ec3d853: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 127m» |
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FROGGS |
:/ |
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flussence |
I get the reason for warning on p5isms, but a fatal error with no off switch? |
| 18:49 |
FROGGS |
it says "Unsupported use" |
| 18:49 |
PerlJam |
IIRC that bit of code is in NQP. It could be made to grok - in first position too. |
| 18:50 |
FROGGS |
yes, that is the solution, since std agrees |
| 18:50 |
FROGGS |
but besides that, every code about an unsupported use should just die away and not just warn |
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sergot |
o/ |
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dalek |
roast: fd77fc9 | (David Warring david.warring gmail.com)++ | integration/advent2013-day09.t: |
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dalek |
roast: DateTime is a standard class |
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dalek |
roast: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/fd77fc9b02 |
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dalek |
roast: 8a2cf47 | (David Warring david.warringgmail.com)++ | integration/advent2010-day16.t: |
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dalek |
roast: adding 2010 advent day 16 |
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dalek |
roast: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/8a2cf472ce |
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vendethiel |
http://ideone.com/EyTGDe <- Lua's actually even more insane than perl6 on flattening :P |
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hoelzro |
nah =) |
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sergot |
good night ! & |
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dalek |
nqp: d78bdec | duff++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
nqp: Allow hyphens at the start of a character class |
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dalek |
nqp: review: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/d78bdecc19 |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: 6d81419 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | / (2 files): |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Add "throws_like" to Test, formerly of Test::Util |
| 21:56 |
dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/6d8141911d |
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dalek |
roast: 46c7e56 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | packages/Test/Util.pm: |
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dalek |
roast: Remove "throws_like" from Test::Util (now in Test) |
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dalek |
roast: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/46c7e56255 |
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dalek |
roast: f1b0f1e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S (15 files): |
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dalek |
roast: Remove now unneccesary references to Test::Util |
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dalek |
roast: review: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/f1b0f1edba |
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lizmat |
masak: ^^^ output bug should be fixed now as well |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: bc585f2 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | tools/build/gen-cat.pl: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: Omit # vim: specifications from files |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: So that the one added at the end is the only one |
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dalek |
rakudo/nom: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/bc585f2ff9 |
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lizmat |
good night, #perl6! |
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BenGoldberg |
p6: say exp(1) - ([+] map 1/*, 1, [\*] 1..16) |
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camelia |
rakudo-{parrot,moar} 6d8141: OUTPUT«2.66453525910038e-15» |
| 22:47 |
camelia |
..rakudo-jvm 6d8141, niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«2.6645352591003757E-15» |
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kurahaupo |
BenGoldberg: cool, taylor series comprehensions! |
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BenGoldberg |
:) |
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segomos |
how does yapsi have an icon on the panda site? |
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segomos |
sorry, was looking at metas, didn't see the logo folder |
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timotimo |
logotype, aye |
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timotimo |
tadzik: someone tweeted a link to your space invaders blog post and added "(perl6 turns usable?)" to the tweet. good job! :) |
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BenGoldberg |
. o O (Space Invaders, the Killer App for perl6?) |
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timotimo |
totes |
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timotimo |
my weekly, on the other hand, seems to be not very well received |
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timotimo |
as in: very few visitors |
| 23:33 |
timotimo |
no negative comments, though |
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* [Coke] |
waves. |
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* timotimo |
particles |
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[Coke] |
some diehard vi users here. if I have a file that consists of "foo\n" - eclipse shows a blank line at the end of the file. vi "hides" the \n, and only shows a single line. Is there a way to make vi show that as a line? |
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kurahaupo |
[Coke]: textmode |
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kurahaupo |
but in 'nix-land the trailing newline is simply part of the last (otherwise empty) line of the file. Eclipse is faking it |
| 23:42 |
kurahaupo |
but in 'nix-land the trailing newline is simply part of the last (non-empty) line of the file. Eclipse is faking it |
| 23:43 |
kurahaupo |
vi has the "o" command to add lines; eclipse doesn't so it shows a fake line where you can start typing |
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timotimo |
that sounds like a good explanation |
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