Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2016-12-21

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00:00 notviki AlexDaniel: about what?
00:00 notviki dudz: you can DM him
00:00 AlexDaniel notviki: about the arrows :)
00:00 notviki AlexDaniel: no opinion.
00:01 dudz ok thanks notviki
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01:24 loveperl How to read excel file with perl?
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01:31 loveperl How to read excel file with perl?
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01:35 loverperl Read excel file with perl6
01:35 loverperl ?
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01:39 loveperl How to read an excel file with perl6?
01:42 loveperl How to read an excel file with perl6?
01:43 AlexDaniel loveperl: https://github.com/spebern/Parser-FreeXL-Native probably?
01:45 loveperl how install library?
01:48 AlexDaniel huggable: zef
01:48 huggable AlexDaniel, nothing found
01:49 AlexDaniel huggable: panda
01:49 huggable AlexDaniel, nothing found
01:49 AlexDaniel alright, well
01:49 timotimo huggable: install
01:49 huggable timotimo, nothing found
01:49 timotimo huggable: module
01:49 huggable timotimo, nothing found
01:49 timotimo huggable: ecosystem
01:49 huggable timotimo, nothing found
01:49 timotimo huggable: huggable
01:49 huggable timotimo, See https://github.com/zoffixznet/huggable
01:49 AlexDaniel loveperl: well, you either use zeff or panda
01:49 AlexDaniel loveperl: if you are using rakudo star, then I guess you already have one of those?
01:49 AlexDaniel so it should be 「zef install Parser::FreeXL::Native」
01:50 AlexDaniel or panda install Parser::FreeXL::Native
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01:50 loveperl ok tankyou
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01:59 MasterDuke timotimo, notviki: either of you guys mind reviewing (and hopefully merging) https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/960 ? thanks
02:01 BenGoldberg Is nqp::stmts the same as LISP's progn?
02:04 MasterDuke believe so
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02:47 Topic for #perl6 is now »ö« Welcome to Perl 6! | https://perl6.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or rakudo:,  or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: http://irc.perl6.org or http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/perl6 | UTF-8 is our friend!
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03:09 dduncan Anyone know on what day Rakudo Star Release 2016.12 will come out?
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07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5: 838d86e | ugexe++ | Build.pm:
07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5: Remove Panda::Builder and Shell::Command deps
07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5: review: https://github.com/niner/Inl​ine-Perl5/commit/838d86ec25
07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5: 5781f8c | niner++ | Build.pm:
07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5: Merge pull request #84 from ugexe/patch-1
07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5:
07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5: Remove Panda::Builder and Shell::Command deps
07:30 dalek Inline-Perl5: review: https://github.com/niner/Inl​ine-Perl5/commit/5781f8cf36
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07:58 stmuk_ dduncan: It's released about every 3 months and was released last month so next release is next yea
07:58 stmuk_ r
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08:45 andrzeju_ hello perl!
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08:49 samcv hello!
08:53 DrForr o/
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11:00 andrzeju hi people
11:01 DrForr Afternoon.
11:02 andrzejku do you know something about Perl in automotive?
11:03 DrForr I've written Perl in cars, yes...
11:04 andrzejku DrForr, ohh really
11:04 samcv On a plane is good too.
11:04 andrzejku DrForr, what exactly do you code?
11:04 samcv also, good night everybody. see you later
11:05 DrForr A plane too, though nowadays seat pitch is making it harder and harder to do that.
11:05 andrzejku xd
11:06 DrForr andrzejku: Well, at the moment finishing up Perl6::Parser when I stop sleeping on New York time while in Romania.
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11:13 notviki stmuk_: but someone told me you were going to be releasing it every month from now on :/
11:15 notviki FWIW, I wish we had the same solid, predictable plan for R* releases as for the compiler. i.e. every X-day people can expect an R* release.
11:15 notviki It's the only user-facing release we have and when ever the core devs are confused about when the next release is gonna happen it just makes us look like we ain't got a clue
11:16 notviki And if it's volunteer time that's at issue here, make Zoffix cut the release.
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11:17 DrForr Or make the release process simple enough that we can rotate it, as perl5 is doing.
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11:18 notviki .oO( make it automated.... )
11:18 DrForr Did I say that? :)
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11:20 notviki MasterDuke: I don't wanna merge something I don't understand and that looks like dense NQP code. I'll leave the browser tab open and hopefully will take a look when I get home, unless someone else does.
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11:28 notviki m: use nqp; dd nqp::defined(Failure.new)
11:28 camelia rakudo-moar b8df3a: OUTPUT«1␤»
11:28 notviki m: use nqp; dd Failure.new // 'differ'
11:28 camelia rakudo-moar b8df3a: OUTPUT«"differ"␤»
11:29 notviki MasterDuke: ^ looks like nqp::defined is not a direct replacement for // ? Can $!handle.get return a Failure?
11:29 lizmat notviki: that's because Failure.defined is special
11:29 lizmat it disables the Failure and makes it disappear by pretending it wasn't defined
11:30 lizmat nqp::defined is not so subtle
11:30 notviki MasterDuke: aslo, in the previous version, $limit could be any numeric, but now it'll be silently ignored unless it's an Int. I think we could stick an Int() coercer in the sig
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11:32 notviki lizmat: yeah, I think we have similar thing on Junctions
11:33 notviki m: sub (Int()) {}(*)
11:33 camelia rakudo-moar b8df3a: OUTPUT«No such method 'Int' for invocant of type 'Whatever'␤  in sub  at <tmp> line 1␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
11:33 notviki MasterDuke: oh, I guess we can't just stick a coercer on $limit 'cause it could be Whatever
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11:47 notviki m: $*ARGFILES.lines(2.1+0i).say
11:47 camelia rakudo-moar b8df3a: OUTPUT«(»Wann treffen wir drei wieder zusamm?«    »Um die siebente Stund‘, am Brückendamm.«      »Am Mittelpfeiler.«)␤»
11:49 jnthn .oO( That German is too complex for me... :) )
11:49 yoleaux 20 Dec 2016 23:17Z <AlexDaniel> jnthn: 「$proc.start(scheduler => ThreadPoolScheduler.new);」 seems to work. What's going to happen if I create a new scheduler for every Proc::Async (just like in the example)?
11:50 jnthn .tell AlexDaniel You'll over time end up with hundreds or thousands of threads sat doing nothing. :-) Create one ThreadPoolScheduler to share among your Proc::Async instances. :)
11:50 yoleaux jnthn: I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel.
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12:36 arnsholt jnthn: Pretty sure it's Macbeth. I think the first phrase has to be "We will three meet again?"
12:36 arnsholt *When
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12:38 andreoss m: my $x = class { method foõ {} }.nee ; say 1; $x.foo
12:38 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«No such method 'nee' for invocant of type '<anon|66263680>'␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
12:39 andreoss m: my $x = class { method foõ {} }.new ; say 1; $x.foo
12:39 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«1␤No such method 'foo' for invocant of type '<anon|58157696>'␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
12:39 andreoss can it fail at compile time instead?
12:40 arnsholt Given a sufficiently clever compiler, I guess
12:40 arnsholt But that's a kind of error detection where there will always be holes
12:40 kaare_ "When the battle's lost and won"
12:41 kaare_ (sorry)
12:41 andreoss also why it doesn't sugest .foo?
12:42 andreoss arnsholt: so theoretically in a different perl6 compiler?
12:43 jnthn I expect we'll implement suggesting method names in Rakudo at some point.
12:44 jnthn The sub/method distinction is an early-bound/late-bound distinction.
12:45 andreoss can i have a some kind of strict methods which are always checked at compilation?
12:45 jnthn Maybe with a module
12:45 jnthn But late binding is part of the original definition of OO
12:46 jnthn If you want early binding, don't do OO.
12:47 jnthn (Somebody will surely some day implement an OO::LikeIt'sJavaAllOverAgain some day though. :)
12:48 jnthn s:2nd/some day//
12:49 jnthn Given method dispatch is itself overridable, and we've got things like FALLBACK, though, it's not going to be so simple.
12:57 rjbs Best place to report typos in p6advent?
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13:01 jnthn rjbs: Many of the authors are on this channel, otherwise can leave a comment.
13:02 jnthn (on the post itself)
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13:13 notviki Looks like it's That Time Of The Year.... Time to make a celebratory New Years Bot \o/
13:15 notviki ♫ It's the moooost wonderfuuul tiiiime of theeee yeaaarr ♫ ♫
14:05 ufobat BTW does FALLBACK in actions of grammars work, too?
14:05 ufobat or is there something special
14:05 jnthn Should work fine
14:05 jnthn Oh...actually
14:06 jnthn I think it has some interesting effects on .can
14:06 ufobat what is .can? what do you mean?
14:06 jnthn Since a method with FALLBACK can do anything
14:06 jnthn .can is how we check if an object can perform a certain method
14:07 jnthn I don't think you'll get any surprises though, tbh
14:08 notviki m: DateTime.now.later(:hours(2.75)).say
14:08 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«2016-12-21T17:08:17.539916+01:00␤»
14:08 notviki m: DateTime.now.later(:hours(2)).say
14:08 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«2016-12-21T17:08:23.044448+01:00␤»
14:08 notviki That sucks.
14:08 notviki I was gonna use it, expecting it to work, or least loudly complain :/
14:10 moritz : DateTime.now.later(:hour(2)).say
14:10 moritz m: DateTime.now.later(:hour(2)).say
14:10 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«2016-12-21T17:10:49.337966+01:00␤»
14:11 moritz m: DateTime.now
14:11 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: ( no output )
14:11 moritz m: say DateTime.now
14:11 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«2016-12-21T15:11:11.710861+01:00␤»
14:11 ufobat thanks jnthn :D i'll try it out :D
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15:06 timotimo samcv: are you awake? i pointed out something on your json_fast pullrequest
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15:17 notviki m: dd 1.roll(-Inf)[^10]
15:17 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Failure␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
15:17 notviki m: dd 1.roll(NaN)[^10]
15:17 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«This type cannot unbox to a native integer: P6opaque, Failure␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
15:18 notviki m: dd 1.pick(Inf)[^10]
15:18 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«(1, Nil, Nil, Nil, Nil, Nil, Nil, Nil, Nil, Nil)␤»
15:18 notviki m: dd 1.pick(-Inf)[^10]
15:18 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«Cannot coerce -Inf to an Int␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Actually thrown at:␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
15:18 timotimo eep %)
15:18 notviki .oO( consistent inconsistency... )
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15:30 notviki m: DateTime.now.later(:2hours, :5minutes).say
15:30 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«More than one time unit supplied␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
15:30 notviki .oO( so what? )
15:33 jnthn So it's ambiguous (given named args don't have order)
15:33 jnthn I forget the specifics, but remember it was intentionally this way :)
15:33 notviki jnthn: I don't see the ambiguity.
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15:34 notviki I'm not providing any seconds, so there's no ambig there.
15:34 jnthn DST perhaps?
15:34 jnthn I know when it's about days/months then it can get very confusing too
15:34 notviki Ah, OK, yeah
15:34 holli a very pleasant localtime good sirs and lady
15:34 jnthn I suspect there's some discussion in backlog or commit message :)
15:36 * perlpilot_ makes a note to look for said discussion
15:36 notviki holli: good localtime, sandwich
15:37 perlpilot_ If you always apply the time units in order from biggest to smallest, I don't think there's an ambiguity.
15:37 notviki perlpilot_: well, yeah, if you declare order to this
15:37 holli only my friends call me that. are you my friend?
15:38 notviki holli: no, I don't like having friends.
15:38 perlpilot_ notviki: then that's how it should be implemented!  :-)
15:38 * holli is sad
15:38 notviki perlpilot_: agreed! From smallest to largest unit!
15:39 notviki ^_^
15:39 notviki holli: and since we aren't friends, I don't have to care. See? My method works ;)
15:41 holli but caring equals love and everybody needs someone to love
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15:42 notviki holli: that's where the bots come in. I love my bots
15:42 perlpilot_ notviki: that implementation needs a little love anyway I think ...
15:42 perlpilot_ m: say DateTime.now.later( :2days, :earlier);  # weird
15:42 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«2016-12-19T16:42:45.163504+01:00␤»
15:42 notviki 0.o
15:43 timotimo m: say DateTime.now.later(:1337lol)
15:43 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«Cannnot use unit lol with Date.delta␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
15:43 notviki Oh, speaking of which, I just spotted the spectest for Str.lines tests for :$eager parameter even though we ain't got one
15:43 timotimo aha!
15:43 timotimo that's gotta go
15:43 timotimo i don't think it was ever meant to be spectested at all
15:43 * timotimo AFK
15:45 notviki m: say DateTime.now.later( :2days, :0earlier);
15:45 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«2016-12-23T16:45:05.352899+01:00␤»
15:45 notviki m: say DateTime.now.later( :days(-2), :earlier);
15:45 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«2016-12-23T16:45:25.346807+01:00␤»
15:45 notviki ^_^
15:45 perlpilot_ indeed
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15:56 notviki ugh
15:59 notviki m: my %time; %time = :month("December"), :month-day("21"), :time("10:56 AM"), :year("2016"); my %months = <DUMMY January February March April May June July August September October November December>.antipairs; my ($hour, $minute) = %time<time>.match(/(\d+) ':' (\d+)/).caps».value».Int; %time<DateTime> = DateTime.new: :year(%time<year>), :month(%months{ %time<month> }), :day(%time<month-day>), :$hour,
15:59 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: ( no output )
15:59 notviki $minute; say %time<DateTime>
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15:59 ZoffixW m: my %time; %time = :month("December"), :month-day("21"), :time("10:56 AM"), :year("2016"); my %months = <DUMMY January February March April May June July August September October November December>.antipairs; my ($hour, $minute) = %time<time>.match(/(\d+) ':' (\d+)/).caps».value».Int; %time<DateTime> = DateTime.new: :year(%time<year>), :month(%months{ %time<month> }), :day(%time<month-day>), :$hour, $minute; say %time<DateTime>
15:59 camelia rakudo-moar a16fac: OUTPUT«1970-01-01T00:00:56Z␤»
15:59 ZoffixW Challenge: spot where the bug is (as in, why is the date 1970 and not 2016)
16:00 notviki :)
16:00 * notviki knows it
16:00 notviki But it took awhile to find
16:03 notviki Give up? :)
16:03 notviki It's the damn missing ':' on :$minute
16:03 notviki And the whole things gets interpreted via a different .new multi where $minute gets interpreted as POSIX time and the rest is ignored
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16:34 * moritz is now on holiday until 2017-01-08 o/
16:34 notviki You work as a teacher?
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16:36 timotimo fantastic!
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16:39 moritz notviki: nope, but 30 days of vacation is standard in Germany
16:39 notviki :o
16:39 * notviki moves to Germany
16:40 tony-o mich auch
16:40 * notviki has 20 business days of vacation.
16:40 moritz notviki: plus a few holidays, like 12-{24,25,26,30}, 01-{01,06}
16:40 notviki And I had to work for 10 years to get that many!
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16:40 moritz though 12-24 and 12-31 are only half holidays, TBH
16:41 moritz notviki: we could sure use a competent programmer or devops person :-)
16:41 tony-o to the vaterland with you
16:41 notviki And quit my cushy designer job where I barely do any work, pfft. pass :)
16:42 * notviki actually hopes to quit it in 2017 :o
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16:49 jdmmmmm I've been using p6 to run one-liners through muliple lines of input -- e.g. perl6 -n -e '("foo: " ~ $_).say' -- however, I cannot seem to be able to interpolate with "$_". This will fail: perl6 -n -e '"{foo: {$_}".say'. Any better way to do this?
16:50 jdmmmmm correction: perl6 -n -e '"foo: {$_}".say'
16:51 notviki jdmmmmm: I see syntax errors in the first two lines....
16:52 notviki jdmmmmm: you interpolate it in one liners same way you'd interpolate it normal code;
16:52 notviki m: say "Woo, it's a $_" with "something"
16:52 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«Woo, it's a something␤»
16:52 notviki Well, on the middle line.
16:53 notviki jdmmmmm: what's the failure?
16:53 timotimo maybe { } gets its own $_ :P
16:53 timotimo m: say "woo it's a {$_}" with "something"
16:53 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«woo it's a something␤»
16:53 timotimo nope, it should work
16:54 notviki Well, the "this will fail" line above has an unclosed block... so...
16:54 notviki and a fun error: "Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu"
16:55 tony-o i'd imagine that first curly is a mistake
16:55 notviki m: say "{foo:{$_}".say
16:55 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu␤»
16:55 tony-o otherwise, even after it's enclosed ..
16:55 notviki m: "{foo:{$_}".say
16:55 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu␤»
16:55 notviki m: "{foo:{$_}"
16:55 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu␤»
16:55 notviki m: "{foo:"
16:55 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3"{foo:7⏏5"␤    expecting any of:␤        colon pair␤»
16:55 tony-o m: "{foo:{$_}}".say;
16:55 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu␤»
16:55 tony-o ^
16:56 geekosaur lta, at least
16:56 tony-o m: "foo: {$_}".say;
16:56 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value $_ of type Any in string context.␤Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤foo: ␤»
16:56 notviki m: "{x:{}}"
16:56 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu␤»
16:57 notviki m: x:{}
16:57 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu␤»
16:57 tony-o m: x: {}
16:57 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: ( no output )
16:58 tony-o m: x:{foo}
16:58 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value' on object of type NQPMu␤»
16:58 notviki ticketed: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=130382
16:58 tony-o jdmmmmm: you do have an unenclosed block, like notviki said, and from the other example you have, it looks like the first curly isn't wanted.  the second is also not necessary
16:59 tony-o m: "foo: $_".say with "something";
16:59 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«foo: something␤»
16:59 notviki Hm
16:59 notviki say "{$_}" is actually broken in -n
17:00 notviki jdmmmmm: just use the variable as-as without any curlies. The {$_} is a bug and I'll report it
17:01 notviki m: "foo: {$_}".say with "something";
17:01 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«foo: something␤»
17:02 notviki m: -> --> Nil { "foo: {$_}".say }("something")
17:02 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
17:02 notviki m: -> $_ --> Nil { "foo: {$_}".say }("something")
17:02 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«Use of Nil in string context␤  in block  at <tmp> line 1␤foo: ␤»
17:03 notviki m: -> $_ --> Any { "foo: {$_}".say }("something")
17:03 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«foo: something␤»
17:03 notviki Rakudobugged the -n issue: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=130383
17:03 notviki MasterDuke: ^ wonder if your PR fixes it
17:05 notviki :/
17:06 * notviki is unplesantly surprised to find `dd` is documented
17:07 notviki [ptc]: !
17:07 notviki No cookie for you
17:13 dalek doc: eefd082 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/IO.pod6:
17:13 dalek doc: Remove `dd` from role IO
17:13 dalek doc:
17:13 dalek doc: It's a Rakudo-specific helper sub and non-standard Perl6 (so not spectested)
17:13 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/eefd082a24
17:13 synopsebot6 Link: http://doc.perl6.org/type/IO
17:15 notviki u: non-break space
17:15 unicodable6 notviki, Found nothing!
17:15 notviki u: non-breaking space
17:15 unicodable6 notviki, Found nothing!
17:15 notviki you suck, robot!
17:15 notviki m: "\x[A0]".uniname.say
17:15 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«NO-BREAK SPACE␤»
17:17 dalek doc: 46a2797 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Programs/01-debugging.pod6:
17:17 dalek doc: Document `dd` in `Programs/01-debugging`
17:17 dalek doc:
17:17 dalek doc: It's a non-standard, Rakudo-only feature, but it's useful enough that users
17:17 dalek doc: should know about it, despite it not being in the roast.
17:17 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/46a2797f35
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17:31 notviki samcv: is doc/1061 ready to merge? Do we need to install anything on the server with the doc build? I see "you need node for this" comment... On the server npm -v gives 2.15.1; is that sufficient? Do we need anything else?
17:32 notviki .ask samcv is doc/1061 ready to merge? Do we need to install anything on the server with the doc build? I see "you need node for this" comment... On the server npm -v gives 2.15.1; is that sufficient? Do we need anything else?
17:32 yoleaux notviki: I'll pass your message to samcv.
17:32 notviki .botsnack
17:32 yoleaux :D
17:32 synopsebot6 om nom nom
17:32 notviki synopsebot6: rude!
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17:33 notviki I guess we also need *!~synopsebo@2001:780:101:ff00::2:9 in the +V thing
17:35 lucasb m: .::
17:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤MVMArray: Can't pop from an empty array␤»
17:35 lucasb m: .::(1)
17:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤cannot stringify this␤»
17:35 notviki There's a ticket for that...
17:35 lucasb :D
17:35 notviki And it's in the grammar for cases that looks for .Foo::bar method calls
17:36 notviki s/for cases/in tocket/;
17:36 lucasb notviki: I noticed you submitted a bug for x:{}
17:36 notviki lucasb: yup
17:37 lucasb made me remind of these 2 bugs...
17:37 notviki Ah
17:37 lucasb I put them on the same category of "strange syntax yields internal errors"
17:38 notviki "The program 'perl6' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
17:38 notviki sudo apt-get install rakudo"
17:38 notviki Guess what version I'd get if I actually did run that :)
17:39 notviki http://i.imgur.com/XTkuAIR.png
17:40 saki uyhh
17:40 notviki ^_^
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17:41 saki ubuntu14 has 2013.12-1, so you must be on ubuntu12 or something heh
17:42 mst notviki: lemme guess, umbongo?
17:42 notviki Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
17:42 mst ah lol
17:42 mst so basically unmaintained crap at this point
17:42 notviki Yup
17:42 mst since LTS means "we'll lose interest after a year or two"
17:42 notviki :)
17:43 mst as opposed to "there's another release in six months, we already lost interest"
17:43 mst occasionally I feel like the world would be improved if somebody spiked the ubuntu HQ coffee pot with ADHD meds
17:45 saki mst, canonical needs you ;)
17:46 lucasb m: class C { has $.a::b::c = 42 }; say C.new.'a::b::c'()
17:46 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«42␤»
17:47 lucasb in P6, to convert to another object, you define a method named '.TheOtherClass'
17:47 lucasb it's a core convention :)
17:48 lucasb but it doesn't work quite so well for nested names like, A::B::C
17:48 lucasb would you name the method '.C'?
17:48 lucasb IMO, the 'has $.a::b::c' is a bug
17:48 lucasb a fully qualified var name like that should be invalid as a attr name
17:49 mst saki: I don't even use linux on the desktop, I don't think I'm qualified to work on a desktop OS
17:51 notviki m: class C { has $.a::b::c = 42 }; say C.new.a::b::c
17:51 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«Cannot dispatch to method c on Failure because it is not inherited or done by C␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
17:51 lucasb m: @a::b = 10; %a::b = 20; say (@a::b, %a::b)   # don't enforce positional and associative constraints
17:51 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«(10 20)␤»
17:52 * notviki renames lucasb to AlexDaniel2
17:52 lucasb anyway, I think this subject of fully qualified names and variables needs some loving
17:52 lucasb ah, Alex is not here now :)
17:53 notviki m: @z::b = 10; say GLOBALish::.keys
17:53 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«(z)␤»
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17:59 loveperl How to read an excel file?
17:59 tony-o loveperl: check out freexl
17:59 lucasb .oO( /me usually starts at the first row )
18:00 tony-o loveperl: https://github.com/spebern/Parser-FreeXL-Native
18:00 shadowpaste "loveperl" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "error" (5 lines) at http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/540318
18:00 notviki 0.o
18:01 loveperl I get this error
18:01 loveperl http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/54031​8?tx=on&amp;submit=Format+it%21
18:01 notviki There's also Spreadsheet::DataFromExcel:from<Perl5>
18:01 notviki loveperl: you need to install the C lib. What OS are you on? aptitude search libfreexl
18:02 notviki (sudo apt-get install libfreexl1; on my box)
18:02 loveperl linux
18:02 notviki heh, there are many linuxes :}
18:03 loveperl yeah :D
18:03 tony-o if you're on some debian flavor ^ that aptitude command should work
18:03 loveperl I still have the same error
18:05 notviki m: say $*VM.config<dll>
18:05 tailgate How can I capture all strings between  [ ] in a string with a regex?
18:05 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«lib%s.so␤»
18:05 lucasb Parser::FreeXL::Native hard codes the lib path? https://github.com/spebern/Parser-FreeXL-Nativ​e/blob/master/lib/Parser/FreeXL/Native.pm6#L5
18:05 notviki tailgate: what's a "string"?
18:06 tailgate like foo[bar][baz] I want to get bar and baz
18:06 tony-o is there ever going to be an escaped [ or ] ?
18:06 lucasb maybe / '[' (.*?) ']' /
18:07 notviki m: "foo[bar][baz]".comb(/'[' <( <-[[]>+ )> ']'/).say
18:07 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«(bar baz)␤»
18:07 lucasb what <(...)> does again? :)
18:08 notviki capture marker
18:08 tailgate thanks
18:08 shadowpaste "loveperl" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "codigo" (24 lines) at http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/540320
18:08 lucasb notviki: ah, thanks
18:08 notviki m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /......./
18:08 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«「abcdefg」␤»
18:08 notviki m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /...<(..../
18:08 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«「defg」␤»
18:08 notviki m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /...<(..)>../
18:08 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«「de」␤»
18:08 notviki m: say 'abcdefg' ~~ /.....)>../
18:08 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«「abcde」␤»
18:08 lucasb like \K in P5?
18:08 loveperl This is the code http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/54032​0?tx=on&amp;submit=Format+it%21
18:08 notviki loveperl: well, it can't find the lib
18:09 notviki loveperl: which one did you install?
18:09 notviki lucasb: yeah
18:09 lucasb notviki: your examples made it clear, thanks
18:09 loveperl this panda install Parser::FreeXL::Native
18:10 notviki loveperl: but it also needs the freexl C library to go with it. Did you install that?
18:10 loveperl no, how install?
18:10 lucasb I would confirm that I've correctly installed the lib; find the lib file and patch the line Parser/FreeXL/Native.pm6#L5 in place
18:10 tony-o what flavor or linux are you on?
18:11 tony-o of
18:11 notviki lucasb: are you sure that patch is needed? There's Build.pm that does stuff...
18:11 notviki loveperl: what linux are you using?
18:12 loveperl ubuntu 16.04
18:12 lucasb notviki: nope, I'm not sure :) It just looks strange the path starts with './lib', but maybe that's how it's supposed to be
18:12 notviki loveperl: what does      aptitude search libfreexl    give you?
18:13 tony-o am i muted?..
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18:13 notviki tony-o: yup. No one can hear you :}
18:13 notviki err... I mean.. whaaaat? :)
18:13 tony-o seems that way today, back to making the perl6 orm do table joins :-p
18:14 shadowpaste "loveperl" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "codigo" (6 lines) at http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/540322
18:14 loveperl this http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/54032​2?tx=on&amp;submit=Format+it%21
18:14 lucasb loveperl: you don't need to paste the link again :)
18:15 notviki loveperl: ok, now run this:  sudo apt-get install libfreexl1
18:15 notviki loveperl: and then install the module with panda:  panda install Parser::FreeXL::Native
18:15 notviki Then make a sacrifice to a deity of your choosing.... and stuff should work.
18:16 loveperl this error
18:16 loveperl E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
18:16 notviki loveperl: did you do the sudo?   It's `sudo apt-get install libfreexl1` not `apt-get install libfreexl1`
18:17 notviki loveperl: or do you have Synaptic open? Close it (or use it to install libfreexl1)
18:18 loveperl ok
18:19 notviki Works now?
18:21 loveperl reloat?
18:21 notviki ? reload what?
18:22 notviki After you installed libfreexl1, install the Parser::FreeXL::Native module, and then your script should work
18:23 loveperl no works
18:23 notviki What's the error?
18:23 shadowpaste "loveperl" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "codigo" (86 lines) at http://fpaste.scsys.co.uk/540324
18:24 notviki loveperl: sudo apt-get install build-essential
18:25 notviki tetrasite
18:25 notviki fuck you
18:25 tony-o lol, what?
18:26 notviki nothing :}
18:27 tony-o almost have DB::ORM::Quicky doing joins
18:27 * notviki gives `passwd` a couple of goes and moves on
18:27 loveperl I already have it installed
18:28 notviki loveperl: no idea then. Try some other module.
18:28 tony-o loveperl: try the libfreexl-dev
18:28 tony-o loveperl: rather than libfreexl
18:28 tony-o maybe also try zef install
18:30 tailgate okay, so what's the way to get the stuff not being captured ... i.e. if /'[' <( <-[[]>+ )> ']'/ captures bar baz in foo[bar][baz], how would I get foo?
18:30 notviki tailgate: the way I showed you like 10 minutes ago?
18:31 loveperl And I use the same bookstore
18:31 notviki m: "foo[bar][baz]".comb(/'[' <( <-[[]>+ )> ']'/)[0].say
18:31 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«bar␤»
18:31 notviki tailgate: oh, sorry, misread
18:31 tailgate lol
18:31 notviki :)
18:31 tailgate appreciated anyways
18:32 notviki tailgate: well, what's "stuff not being captured"? Is it just the prefix before the bracketed stuff?
18:32 tailgate well, foo[bar]baz should capture foo and baz in this case
18:32 tailgate stuff NOT in btween a []
18:33 notviki But capture how? would it be two separate captures of "foo" and "baz" or two separate of "foo[" and "]baz" or one string "foobaz" or one string "foo[]baz"?
18:33 loveperl What other options are there to read an Excel?
18:34 notviki loveperl: https://metacpan.org/pod/S​preadsheet::DataFromExcel
18:34 notviki You can use it through Inline::Perl5
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18:34 notviki use Spreadsheet::DataFromExcel:from<Perl5>; my @data = Spreadsheet::DataFromExcel.new.load: "yourfile.xls"
18:36 tailgate I think it should be a list of foo baz
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18:37 tailgate so foo[bar]baz[bing]bong should be (foo, baz, bong)
18:39 notviki m: "foo[bar]baz[bing]bong".comb(/"[" <-[[]>+ "]" || <-[[]>+/).categorize({.starts-with("[") && .ends-with("]") ?? "in" !! "out"}).say
18:39 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«{in => [[bar] [bing]], out => [foo baz bong]}␤»
18:40 tailgate nice
18:40 tailgate thanks
18:40 Xliff \o
18:40 * [Coke] gets close to have a working perl 6 again, after losing his last mactop to a tragic update brick.
18:40 notviki o/
18:40 tony-o ouch
18:40 Xliff Just out of curiousity... is there any reason we can't run pre-compiled p6 directly from MoarVM?
18:41 notviki We can?
18:41 loveperl how install? notviki
18:42 tony-o with cpan
18:42 notviki loveperl: perlbrew install perl-5.24.0 -Duseshrplib -Dusemultiplicity
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18:43 notviki loveperl: 1 sec
18:45 samcv bisectable6 say "ୈ"
18:45 yoleaux 17:32Z <notviki> samcv: is doc/1061 ready to merge? Do we need to install anything on the server with the doc build? I see "you need node for this" comment... On the server npm -v gives 2.15.1; is that sufficient? Do we need anything else?
18:45 notviki loveperl: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet​/2fc2aa2cfbabad6b9a4ea529f1774dbb
18:45 Xliff tony-o: Good luck with DB::ORM::Quicky. I would love to be able to use JOINS without nasty SQL.
18:45 notviki loveperl: that will build you latest Perl 5 and install cpanm command
18:46 notviki loveperl: and then you can find pretty much any module on https://metacpan.org/ install it with `cpanm Some::Module` and then use it in Perl6 as `use Some::Module:from<Perl5>`
18:46 samcv notviki well the commands to make it changed. See .travis.yml
18:46 samcv But I think that node should work fine
18:46 notviki loveperl: and the first command in that list installs perlbrew: https://perlbrew.pl/  it's an installer for Perl 5
18:48 samcv But it is ready yeah. Though let me try doing a clean build on my laptop before you merge
18:48 notviki samcv: so is it ready to merge or are you still tweaking it?
18:48 samcv Just in case
18:48 notviki OK :)
18:48 tony-o Xliff: maybe you'd like to provide some feedback, here is the route i'm going right now (runs to gist.github)
18:49 samcv Not tweaking it. Its ready, though i want to just do a clean build since the last change
18:49 Xliff Hmmm... never seen .categorize() before...
18:49 * Xliff puts it on the list.
18:49 notviki There's also .categorize-list
18:49 * Xliff puts that on the list, too.
18:49 tony-o Xliff: https://gist.github.com/tony-o/d​19c6ab194370eb1872af5369d8e62ef
18:49 samcv bisectable6: say "ୈ"
18:49 bisectable6 samcv, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=9eed276) the exit code is 1 and the output is identical as well
18:49 samcv Eweee
18:49 notviki m: say "ୈ"
18:49 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5===␤Argument to "say" seems to be malformed␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say7⏏5 "ୈ"␤Bogus postfix␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say 7⏏5"ୈ"␤    expecting any of:␤        infix␤        infix stopper␤        postfix␤        s…»
18:50 notviki m: " ".name.say
18:50 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«No such method 'name' for invocant of type 'Str'␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
18:50 notviki m: " ".uniname.say
18:50 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«SPACE␤»
18:50 notviki mkay
18:50 samcv I found a bugggg. Wull send the bug once i have internet again. (In a car)
18:50 notviki I see it's differnet, but it turns to space when I try to copy/paste it
18:50 notviki Don't drive and debug!
18:50 notviki :)
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18:51 samcv What turns to a space?
18:51 notviki oh
18:51 Xliff tony-o: Commented. ;)
18:51 samcv m: say 0xb48.chr
18:51 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«ୈ␤»
18:52 samcv That? Or something else
18:52 Xliff samcv: Please tell me you are not driving! 8-)
18:52 notviki samcv: this is how it renders on my terminal: http://i.imgur.com/wQUTK6O.png
18:52 notviki But I see in the weblog, it's totally different
18:52 tony-o Xliff: sounds good - that's what i'm working generating into sql now :-)
18:52 Xliff I can't stand trying to use a smartphone in a car...
18:52 samcv Oh, i can see it fine on my laptop and phone
18:52 samcv Not driving
18:52 Xliff tony-o++     # Well, in that case... code away! ;)
18:52 notviki Xliff: what about using a smartcar in a phone?
18:53 samcv IN a Phone?
18:53 notviki :}
18:53 samcv A
18:53 samcv Madness
18:53 Xliff notvikiZoffixOnABong: X::Exception.new( :msg("DON'T NOT COMPUTE") ).throw
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18:55 Xliff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​GulbyZv_qms&amp;ab_channel=SAMYB
18:56 notviki uhhhh... Thanks, I don't feel that bad not knowing who Prince is anymore.
18:56 * notviki blasts some metal to cleanse the ear canals
18:57 Xliff :P
18:57 * Xliff hacks the earphones so that it blasts Carrie Underwood, instead.
18:58 notviki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSu_rV91EQ0
18:59 Xliff I'm sorry, I take my rocks with something on them! Preferably something liquid!
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19:00 * Xliff raises viki with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3bSrUn​RQ-4&amp;ab_channel=DesTr%C3%B6yerVideo
19:01 * notviki raises with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9otaF5UPY
19:01 notviki Nice female vocals :)
19:01 sena_kun oh wow, the first person I met who knows this band.
19:01 notviki :)
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19:05 notviki samcv: I'm running `make html` and it told me "pygmentize 2.0.1, found; code blocks will be highlighted; Using syntax highlighting via Inline::Python". Is that normal?
19:05 * Xliff dusts viki with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey04​6roWN6M&amp;ab_channel=cronicsmoke7d
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19:06 notviki That kinda reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYrWgumk2lU
19:07 sena_kun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XHKXOT3j6M - let it be here too, as a late compromise between a harsh vocal and low-speed tune.
19:08 notviki 0.o
19:08 notviki interesting combination..
19:09 Xliff LOL
19:09 * Xliff tosses viki to pieces with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B​8LJl_x5LPI&amp;ab_channel=Treeock
19:09 Xliff <emo>
19:11 notviki That one is actually nice :)
19:14 * notviki trumps all with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA2Ns0i06iM
19:15 notviki Drunk Zoffix in his natural habitat :P
19:18 samcv notviki its a go!
19:20 * notviki renames dalek to Titanic
19:20 dalek Heuristic branch merge: pushed 20 commits to doc by zoffixznet
19:20 notviki aww :(
19:22 dalek doc/grammar-links-fix: 067f98d | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6:
19:22 dalek doc/grammar-links-fix: Cleanup of broken links on Glossary page(either removing or fixing)
19:22 dalek doc/grammar-links-fix: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/067f98d0dd
19:23 samcv notviki merge when you are ready please :)
19:23 notviki samcv: already done :)
19:23 notviki 1420     +dalek │ Heuristic branch merge: pushed 20 commits to doc by zoffixznet
19:24 samcv Nice. :)
19:24 samcv [11:05] (notviki) samcv: I'm running `make html` and it told me "pygmentize 2.0.1, found; code blocks will be highlighted; Using syntax highlighting via Inline::Python". Is that normal?
19:25 samcv I missed this tho. You found the right two commands to run?
19:25 notviki two commands? I just ran `make html`
19:25 notviki What are the two commands?
19:26 samcv Aww
19:26 samcv Make init-highlights
19:26 samcv Make html-highlights
19:26 lucasb m: EVAL "'\x[300]'"
19:26 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /home/camelia/EVAL_0␤Bogus statement␤at /home/camelia/EVAL_0:1␤------> 3<BOL>7⏏5'̀'␤    expecting any of:␤        prefix␤        term␤»
19:26 samcv Should run both every build
19:27 notviki samcv: so that replaces the old `make html` or do I need to run that too?
19:27 lucasb ^^ characters failing starts at 0x300 and goes on...
19:27 samcv Uhm
19:27 lucasb committable6: 2015.12 EVAL "'\x[300]'"
19:27 committable6 lucasb, https://gist.github.com/76d5​627e17e450445d5ea50a3f4812e6
19:27 notviki m: "\x[300]".uniname.say
19:27 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT␤»
19:27 samcv No, make html uses pygments
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19:28 samcv So yeah you dont need that anymore
19:28 lucasb committable6: all EVAL "'\x[300]'"
19:29 committable6 lucasb, https://gist.github.com/48b3​782014b494787f5b051d645aaac8
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19:30 samcv lucasb :( how far though
19:30 samcv Are they all Mn or Mo chars?
19:30 lucasb samcv++ for finding the bug :)
19:30 lucasb idk
19:30 samcv Will submit an RT in 25 minutes
19:31 dalek doc: 92a1533 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | util/update-and-sync:
19:31 dalek doc: Use new highlights make commands
19:31 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/92a1533b53
19:32 lucasb ah, bisectable6 couldn't find anything :| but something changed between the following releases:
19:32 lucasb committable6: 2015.04 EVAL "'\x[300]'"
19:32 committable6 lucasb, ¦«2015.04»:
19:32 lucasb committable6: 2015.05 EVAL "'\x[300]'"
19:32 committable6 lucasb, ¦«2015.05»: ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling EVAL_0␤Bogus statement␤at EVAL_0:1␤------> <BOL>⏏'̀'␤    expecting any of:␤        prefix␤        term «exit code = 1»
19:33 notviki So what's the bug?
19:33 lucasb maybe jnthn was working on NFG at the time?
19:34 lucasb idk, is there something like a "invalid string" in unicode, even if it doesn't make sense?
19:34 lucasb I don't expect a literal string to die
19:34 notviki But it's not a string, you're trying to use a synthetic char as an opening delimiter
19:35 notviki m: "'\x[300]".chars.say
19:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«1␤»
19:35 samcv m: say "ୈ"
19:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5===␤Argument to "say" seems to be malformed␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say7⏏5 "ୈ"␤Bogus postfix␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say 7⏏5"ୈ"␤    expecting any of:␤        infix␤        infix stopper␤        postfix␤        s…»
19:35 notviki m: "'\x[300]".uniname.say
19:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«APOSTROPHE␤»
19:35 notviki hm
19:35 notviki m: "\x[300]".uniname.say
19:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT␤»
19:35 notviki m: "'\x[300]".ords.say
19:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«(39 768)␤»
19:35 samcv m: say Q<ୈ>
19:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Couldn't find terminator <ୈ (corresponding <ୈ was at line 1)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say Q<ୈ>7⏏5<EOL>␤    expecting any of:␤        <ୈ␤»
19:35 notviki m: "'\x[300]".uninames.say
19:35 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«(APOSTROPHE COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT)␤»
19:35 samcv Alsoooo
19:36 samcv See that last error with Q
19:36 lucasb ah, ok. understood, I can't literally combine the quotes with those characters in the source code
19:37 notviki lucasb: yeah, it basically turns into a single synthetic char...
19:37 samcv m: say Q<ୈtestୈ>
19:37 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Couldn't find terminator <ୈ (corresponding <ୈ was at line 1)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say Q<ୈtestୈ>7⏏5<EOL>␤    expecting any of:␤        <ୈ␤»
19:37 notviki m: EVAL "'\n\x[300]'"
19:37 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: ( no output )
19:37 samcv Ohh
19:37 notviki m: "'\n\x[300]'".EVAL.trim
19:37 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: ( no output )
19:37 notviki m: "'\n\x[300]'".EVAL.trim.uninames.say
19:37 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«(COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT)␤»
19:37 samcv m: say Q<ୈtestୈ<
19:37 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Couldn't find terminator <ୈ (corresponding <ୈ was at line 1)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say Q<ୈtestୈ<7⏏5<EOL>␤    expecting any of:␤        <ୈ␤»
19:38 samcv m: say Q<ୈtest<ୈ
19:38 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«test␤»
19:38 samcv Crazy
19:38 notviki that looks.... evil on my terminal
19:38 samcv Yeah it should only combine with its proper unicode symbols
19:38 samcv Not ANYTHING
19:38 samcv just certain ones
19:39 sena_kun why links to .Str Mu-method point me to Str.val? It is sad.
19:39 notviki m: ("Q ♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 100 ~ "heh" ~ "♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 100).EVAL.say
19:39 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«heh␤»
19:40 notviki m: ("Q ♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 1000 ~ "heh" ~ "♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 1000).EVAL.say
19:40 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«heh␤»
19:41 notviki m: ("Q ♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 100000 ~ "heh" ~ "♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 100000).EVAL.say
19:41 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«heh␤»
19:41 notviki 0.o
19:41 * notviki was expecting a segv
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19:41 travis-ci Doc build passed. Altai-man 'Cleanup of broken links on Glossary page(either removing or fixing)'
19:41 travis-ci https://travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/185863714 https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/067f98d0dd03
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19:41 notviki Ah, I'm too short
19:42 notviki m: ("Q ♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 150000 ~ "heh" ~ "♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 150000).EVAL.say
19:42 camelia rakudo-moar 9eed27: OUTPUT«(signal SEGV)»
19:42 notviki ehehe
19:42 lucasb what?! :)
19:42 notviki stack overflow
19:43 notviki https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Displ​ay.html?id=129227#ticket-history
19:43 notviki j: ("Q ♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 150000 ~ "heh" ~ "♥" ~ "\x[308]" x 150000).EVAL.say
19:43 camelia rakudo-jvm 8ca367: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /home/camelia/EVAL_0␤Bogus postfix␤at /home/camelia/EVAL_0:1␤------> 3̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈heh♥7⏏…»
19:44 notviki j: say "x" ~ "\x[308]" x 150000
19:44 camelia rakudo-jvm 8ca367: OUTPUT«…»
19:44 notviki umm... :/
19:44 notviki j: say "x" ~ "\x[308]"
19:44 camelia rakudo-jvm 8ca367: OUTPUT«ẍ␤»
19:44 notviki j: say "x" ~ "\x[308]" x 10
19:44 camelia rakudo-jvm 8ca367: OUTPUT«ẍ̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈␤»
19:45 notviki j: say "x" ~ "\x[308]" x 100000
19:45 camelia rakudo-jvm 8ca367: OUTPUT«…»
19:45 notviki Interesting...
19:46 samcv Has it generated the docs notviki. Not sure if it has the new version or not
19:47 notviki samcv: um, in the footer it tells you which commit the build is for and it's currently the latest commit
19:47 notviki s/um/yup/;
19:48 notviki hmmm
19:48 notviki I also ran it in a separate dir on the server and that one got: Makefile:7: recipe for target 'html-highlights' failed
19:48 notviki make: *** [html-highlights] Broken pipe
19:48 gfldex samcv: see https://docs.perl6.org/build-log/
19:49 notviki samcv: though in the build log I still see it mentioning Inline::Python https://docs.perl6.org/build-log​/build-2016-12-21T19:35+0000.log
19:49 notviki lemme double check it's using the right build command
19:51 notviki ah, ok
19:51 notviki samcv: it ran the old build script
19:51 notviki But I think the new one will fail, I can't get it to run. Ends with broken pipe thing
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19:52 dalek doc: f06487f | (Zoffix Znet)++ | README.md:
19:52 dalek doc: Trigger doc rebuild
19:52 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/f06487f451
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19:59 notviki It's crashing on spurt "html{$doc.url}.html", p2h($doc.pod, 'programs', pod-path => $pod-path); when $doc.name is 'Perl 6'
20:00 notviki broken pipe...
20:00 * notviki tries using a bong instead
20:00 samcv hmm. not sure why
20:01 samcv crashing on the spurting? weird
20:01 samcv travis used to get broken pipe
20:01 samcv but that was because highlights wasn't getting installed
20:01 samcv you _did_ run make init-highlights right?
20:02 samcv i'll be back a little later, but will check my phone periodically
20:02 notviki I'm almost positive I'm sure I did.
20:03 samcv run it again tho
20:03 samcv running it again dosen't hurt and just ensures it's up to date or properly installed
20:03 notviki seems not the spurt but one of the args... p2h maybe
20:03 notviki p2h()
20:03 * notviki debugs moar
20:04 notviki yeah, make init-highlights was run. Ran it again and it told me "already exists"
20:05 notviki uuuuuu... It's also failing with this here: https://docs.perl6.org/build-log​/build-2016-12-21T19:55+0000.log
20:06 notviki maybe my bash-foo is too weak. I added it as this line: https://github.com/perl6/doc/blob​/master/util/update-and-sync#L33
20:08 samcv If you run: echo htmlify | ./highlights/highlightfilenamefromstdin.coffee
20:09 notviki -su: ./highlights/highlightfilenamefromstdin.coffee: No such file or directory
20:09 samcv Not exact filename, im on my phone. But it should spit out htmp
20:09 samcv Just ls that dir
20:10 notviki -su: ./highlights/highlight-filename-from-stdin.coffee: highlights/node_modules/coffee-script/bin/coffee: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
20:10 samcv Spit out html
20:10 samcv Ok its not installed
20:10 samcv :)
20:10 notviki What do I install? apt-get install coffeescript ?
20:11 samcv No
20:11 notviki apt-get install node-coffeescript ?
20:11 samcv It installs with everything elsr
20:11 notviki with the make init-highlights?
20:12 samcv It should be at highlights/node_modules/coffee-script/bin/coffee
20:12 samcv Yes
20:12 samcv Does that file exist?
20:12 notviki doc.perl6.org@hack:~/highlights-test/highlights/node_modules$ ls
20:12 notviki highlights  less
20:12 notviki That's the only thing in that folder
20:13 * [Coke] tries out zef since he has to use a brand new p6 install..
20:13 notviki lemme nuke it and try from scratch, maybe there's an error I overlooked
20:13 samcv Yeah
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20:14 samcv Thats the issue. But that echo... Commanf i told you is the best way to ensure it is installed. Brb lunch
20:14 [Coke] is highlights live on master, or is notviki just testing to see if it works on the build machine?
20:15 notviki [Coke]: it's merged but we can't get it to build
20:15 notviki [Coke]: the first error is this: https://github.com/perl6/doc/blob​/master/util/update-and-sync#L33
20:15 notviki [Coke]: I mean this: https://docs.perl6.org/build-log​/build-2016-12-21T19:55+0000.log
20:15 notviki And I'm unsure if that's just me messing up the bash command in https://github.com/perl6/doc/blob​/master/util/update-and-sync#L33
20:16 notviki It used to be `make html` but now it got two `make blah` in  ity
20:16 notviki We should prolly make it one command again
20:16 notviki .oO( make doc building great again! )
20:20 [Coke] ... why was this merged?
20:20 [Coke] shouldn't we have removed the pygements stuff as part of it and replaced 'make html'?
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20:21 [Coke] what's in ./highlights/atom-language-perl6 right now?
20:21 [Coke] *pygments
20:21 notviki [Coke]: I presume https://github.com/perl6/atom-language-perl6/ the new highlighter
20:21 * [Coke] realizes he can probably ssh in.
20:21 [Coke] yes, I know what's *MEANT* to be in there; what is IN there?
20:22 [Coke] ugh. all my ssh keys are on dead mactop.
20:23 notviki [Coke]: that
20:23 [Coke] but not a clean copy, apparently.
20:23 notviki on latest commit
20:23 notviki Oh you mean on the one that's in the actual build
20:23 [Coke] and do you get the same error message when you run "git pull" from the command line in that dir?
20:24 notviki 1 sec
20:24 [Coke] Yes, the one in the directory shown just before the error message on this page: https://docs.perl6.org/build-log​/build-2016-12-21T19:55+0000.log
20:24 [Coke] This should not have been merged. :|
20:25 notviki samcv: here's the full output including the broken pipe: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet​/1e290c799ccad2f73ed494592447ab63 and there's still just "highlights  less" in the highlights/node_modules dir
20:25 notviki It's fine. We can still build the old way, exactly because `make html` remains :)
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20:27 dalek doc: 9e265ee | (Zoffix Znet)++ | util/update-and-sync:
20:27 dalek doc: Switch back to old update method
20:27 dalek doc:
20:27 dalek doc: ...while we sort out the broken pipe thing...
20:27 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/9e265eed95
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20:28 notviki I need to do some work stuff and relocating in 20m, but in 1.5 hours will see what's up with that pipe is from home.
20:29 notviki (doc need a re-build bump after ^ that commit builds, so that it'd use the update script from that commit)
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20:32 notviki and the build thing worked this time, so just the pipe thing remains \o/
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20:34 notviki and no need to trigger a rebuild either. All changes are currently online and if a commit with a change shows up, that'll trigger the rebuild.
20:34 notviki \o/
20:36 notviki |
20:36 notviki /\
20:38 notviki Ah ok, I see why the first error occured
20:39 notviki The command is:    git clone https://github.com/perl6/atom-language-perl6 ./highlights/atom-language-perl6 || cd highlights/atom-language-perl6; git pull
20:39 notviki but that || should just be a ;
20:39 notviki (it'd pull on a freshly cloned branch but.. eh, who cares.
20:39 notviki )
20:40 notviki That, or make it `cd` in both conditions
20:47 notviki or check if the dir exists and clone only if it ain't there
20:47 * notviki will fix after relocation
20:47 * notviki &
20:53 [Coke] maaaaan is this loaner laptop slow compared to the work one. :|
20:56 dalek ecosystem: 2face6b | RabidGravy++ | META.list:
20:56 dalek ecosystem: Update to META6 for Attribute::Lazy
20:56 dalek ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/e​cosystem/commit/2face6b3aa
21:00 RabidGravy Can I release 5 more modules before the end of the year
21:00 gfldex if you want to
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21:02 RabidGravy it's a more realist aspiiration than the 240 we need to double the number in the ecosystem since last year
21:05 dalek doc: f978565 | coke++ | doc/Programs/01-debugging.pod6:
21:05 dalek doc: use non-braking space
21:05 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/f978565103
21:05 dalek doc: 2768751 | coke++ | / (2 files):
21:05 dalek doc: remove trailing whitespace
21:05 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/276875126b
21:05 [Coke] ugh, speeling missteak.
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21:17 notviki huh, weird. I was sure I used a non-break space there :/
21:24 sena_kun was there a doc-related issue about "method, method, method, method, method" on https://docs.perl6.org/routine-method.html page? I just fixed it, but cannot find a ticket.
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21:27 [Coke] fixed it... in a PR?
21:28 sena_kun [Coke], on localhost, but I'll push it now.
21:28 sena_kun just wondering.
21:29 [Coke] https://github.com/perl6/doc/issues/642
21:29 [Coke] so, it was already considered fixed?
21:29 [Coke] so, please make a PR for review instead, maybe?
21:29 [Coke] Unless you fixed it according to my last comment? :)
21:30 sena_kun [Coke], judging by "method,method,method" on current docs.perl6 it doesn't fixed. (:
21:30 sena_kun Ah, stop.
21:30 [Coke] Those correspond directly to the things on the right.
21:33 sena_kun Ah, I've got it.
21:36 sena_kun [Coke], the fix only relates to write-main-index, but write-sub-index subroutine needs .flat too. Hence duplicates. I'll create a PR now.
21:37 sena_kun Ah, it is wontfix...
21:38 sena_kun Then there was no point, never mind me.
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21:41 dalek doc: 067f98d | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6:
21:41 dalek doc: Cleanup of broken links on Glossary page(either removing or fixing)
21:41 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/067f98d0dd
21:41 dalek doc: 887dd1a | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6:
21:41 dalek doc: Merge pull request #1068 from perl6/grammar-links-fix
21:41 synopsebot6 Link: http://doc.perl6.org/language/glossary
21:41 synopsebot6 Link: http://doc.perl6.org/language/glossary
21:41 dalek doc:
21:41 dalek doc: Cleanup of broken links on Glossary page(either removing or fixing)
21:41 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/887dd1a012
21:46 samcv notviki, were you able to get it working?
21:47 notviki nope
21:47 samcv what does echo htmlify.p6 | ./highlights/highlight-filename-from-stdin.coffee do
21:47 notviki the coffee thing isn't there
21:48 samcv hmm
21:48 notviki I'll check when I get home in about ~15m. On the bus ATM
21:48 [Coke] is the git clone failing?
21:48 [Coke] ah.
21:48 samcv wait the git clone is failing or it's just not installing coffeescript with the rest of the node stuff?
21:49 notviki Pretty sure nothing's failing in the output. Scroll up, I pasted full output there somewhere
21:49 samcv let me try specifying it specifically in package.json
21:50 samcv i've built it from source cleanly but. might as well
21:53 samcv yeah ok. other things depend on coffeescript as well... so maybe this will ensure it will always be in that location, maybe node moved around where dependencies are moved
21:54 dalek doc: dab8068 | samcv++ | highlights/package.json:
21:54 dalek doc: Ensure that node specifically installs coffee-script
21:54 dalek doc:
21:54 dalek doc: Even though the packages in the package.json depend on coffee-script,
21:54 dalek doc: hopefully specifying it will make sure it gets installed.
21:54 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/dab8068a62
21:55 samcv will be back later. see you soon
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22:16 timotimo oh
22:20 timotimo merged samcv's stuff into json_fast and bumped version
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22:32 notviki u: tab
22:32 unicodable6 notviki, U+0009 CHARACTER TABULATION [Cc] (control character)
22:32 unicodable6 notviki, U+000B LINE TABULATION [Cc] (control character)
22:32 unicodable6 notviki, U+0088 CHARACTER TABULATION SET [Cc] (control character)
22:32 unicodable6 notviki, https://gist.github.com/e226​8bed9fb0855fe959b4b4f576f57f
22:33 notviki well, dammit... how am I supposed to write a makefile if I can't type or copy-paste a tab :S
22:34 moritz m: say "x\tx" for notviki
22:34 camelia rakudo-moar 541d12: OUTPUT«5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Undeclared routine:␤    notviki used at line 1␤␤»
22:34 moritz m: say "x\tx" # for notviki
22:34 camelia rakudo-moar 541d12: OUTPUT«x    x␤»
22:35 stmuk wibble
22:37 tony-o Xliff: do you have a use case you'd like to try the ORM out with?
22:39 notviki moritz: I couldn't copy-paste either, 'cause the editor was changing it to spaces apparently. I've used anotehr editor now tho :)
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22:53 dalek doc: ea9df17 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | Makefile:
22:53 dalek doc: Prevent repo cloning failures in make init-highlights
22:54 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/ea9df1728d
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23:13 notviki samcv: well, now that fixed the pipe issue. Seems to be working, but it's printing a toooooon of `duplicated path in ....-pod_to_pyg.pod` warnings. I know we had them before, but does `pod_to_pyg` in filename means it's still using the old pygments or whatever it was for highlights?
23:14 tony-o Xliff: https://github.com/tony-o/perl​6-db-orm-quicky#joining-tables
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23:28 dalek doc: ed76af6 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | util/update-and-sync:
23:28 dalek doc: Switch to new highlighting work
23:28 dalek doc:
23:28 dalek doc: https://github.com/perl6/doc/pull/1061
23:28 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/ed76af6673
23:29 notviki .tell samcv your last commit fixed the build issue on doc/1061. Seems to be working, but it's printing a toooooon of `duplicated path in ....-pod_to_pyg.pod` warnings. I know we had them before, but does `pod_to_pyg` in filename means it's still using the old pygments or whatever it was for highlights? I set the doc build to use the new highlights now
23:29 yoleaux notviki: I'll pass your message to samcv.
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23:35 travis-ci Doc build failed. Zoffix Znet 'Switch to new highlighting work
23:35 travis-ci https://travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/185929346 https://github.com/perl6/doc/com​pare/ea9df1728da7...ed76af6673f4
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23:38 samcv .tell notviki yeah it still uses the same filenames as before. So it is working
23:38 yoleaux 23:29Z <notviki> samcv: your last commit fixed the build issue on doc/1061. Seems to be working, but it's printing a toooooon of `duplicated path in ....-pod_to_pyg.pod` warnings. I know we had them before, but does `pod_to_pyg` in filename means it's still using the old pygments or whatever it was for highlights? I set the doc build to use the new highlights now
23:38 yoleaux samcv: I'll pass your message to notviki.
23:38 samcv .
23:39 notviki \o/
23:39 yoleaux 23:38Z <samcv> notviki: yeah it still uses the same filenames as before. So it is working
23:40 samcv We probably want to make the html use one or the other css if we want to keep pygments as an option.
23:41 dalek doc: f15342a | (Zoffix Znet)++ | README.md:
23:41 dalek doc: Trigger doc rebuild
23:41 dalek doc:
23:41 dalek doc: To make it generate the site using new highlighter
23:41 dalek doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/f15342ac60
23:42 Xliff tony-o: How does that example work?
23:43 Xliff Because I see an AND with only one comparison
23:43 Xliff And no EQU which is usually present in a join.
23:46 Xliff tony-o: https://gist.github.com/tony-o/d19c6ab1943​70eb1872af5369d8e62ef#gistcomment-1954450
23:47 Xliff tony-o: As for use cases, does DB::ORM::Quickly work with MySQL?
23:47 Xliff I might be able to come up with a few. :)
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