Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6, 2017-09-04

Perl 6 | Reference Documentation | Rakudo

| Channels | #perl6 index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | summary

All times shown according to UTC.

Time Nick Message
00:02 AlexDaniel any ideas on https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day#recommendations ?
00:02 Aaronepower raschipi: How do I add zef Apps to my path?
00:03 Cabanossi joined #perl6
00:05 [Coke] are you using rakudobrew or no?
00:05 gfldex Aaronepower: are you running zef as a non-root user?
00:06 Aaronepower gfldex: Yes.
00:06 Aaronepower I installed perl6 with homebrew
00:06 gfldex add $HOME/.perl6/bin to $PATH
00:13 jferrero Hi! I have problems installing Rakudo Star 2017.07
00:16 Aaronepower gfldex: there is not .perl6/bin
00:18 notbenh joined #perl6
00:21 jferrero zef-m show: No such method 'run-script' for invocant of type 'CompUnit::RepositoryRegistry'
00:31 lizmat joined #perl6
00:35 jferrero Huummm... I suspecting that modules have not installed with make install-modules
01:04 konsolebox joined #perl6
01:18 Cabanossi joined #perl6
01:20 char_var[buffer] joined #perl6
01:31 lizmat joined #perl6
01:33 chinarulezzz joined #perl6
01:33 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
01:39 pilne joined #perl6
01:42 TEttinger joined #perl6
01:51 ilbot3 joined #perl6
01:51 Topic for #perl6 is now »ö« Welcome to Perl 6! | https://perl6.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or rakudo:,  or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: http://irc.perl6.org or http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/perl6 | UTF-8 is our friend!
02:15 samcv nice on this test of nqp::index, improves the speed for haystacks that are strands from 14.9s to 8.2495808s
02:15 samcv should be commiting that very shortly
02:16 samcv hopefully eventually we can get to the point where it takes more time to flatten the haystack than to keep it as strands for our regex
02:16 samcv someday
02:22 noganex_ joined #perl6
02:23 raschipi I have faith in you, samcv
02:42 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
02:46 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
02:48 astj joined #perl6
03:03 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
03:31 unnecessarymulti joined #perl6
03:51 sivoais joined #perl6
04:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
04:13 wamba joined #perl6
04:29 zakame joined #perl6
04:30 ShalokShalom joined #perl6
04:37 nuk9 joined #perl6
04:43 zakame joined #perl6
04:56 itaipu joined #perl6
05:14 moritz jdv79: please give me an SSH public key
05:14 yoleaux 3 Sep 2017 23:14Z <jdv79> moritz: surely it can be fixed.  ill try.
05:17 Cabanossi joined #perl6
05:34 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
05:37 ipatrol joined #perl6
05:37 ipatrol Will this do what I want it to do? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fc6f6a3e4968e1ce59f4a823549b360a
05:37 yoleaux 30 Aug 2017 20:55Z <gfldex> ipatrol: not quite what you where looking for: https://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2017-08-30#i_15093185
05:38 ipatrol ...ok
05:39 ipatrol It's supposed to represent a table of verb conjugations
05:52 ChoHag joined #perl6
06:02 stmuk joined #perl6
06:08 xtreak joined #perl6
06:09 imcsk8 joined #perl6
06:12 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
06:12 ipatrol memo me or whatever yoleaux just did if you can
06:13 unicodable6 joined #perl6
06:18 nadim joined #perl6
06:21 geekosaur ".tell gfldex your message here"
06:21 geekosaur oh they left already
06:26 xtreak joined #perl6
06:38 ramortegui joined #perl6
06:47 Cabanossi joined #perl6
06:50 _28_ria joined #perl6
06:51 Actualeyes joined #perl6
06:56 darutoko joined #perl6
06:59 zakame joined #perl6
07:06 _28_ria joined #perl6
07:07 wamba joined #perl6
07:08 rindolf joined #perl6
07:13 xtreak joined #perl6
07:21 abraxxa joined #perl6
07:45 xtreak joined #perl6
08:02 leont joined #perl6
08:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
08:08 zakharyas joined #perl6
08:09 xtreak joined #perl6
08:17 mtsd joined #perl6
08:17 robertle joined #perl6
08:19 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
08:20 dakkar joined #perl6
08:32 Cabanossi joined #perl6
08:37 daxim http://i.imgur.com/pBW3mJn.png   hey, the docs layout recently changed.  can you undo the style worsening?  horizontal scrolling sucks
08:38 xtreak joined #perl6
08:41 lizmat daxim: fwiw, I don't see such horizontal scrolling on MacOS / Safari
08:42 lizmat so maybe it's a browser dependent / css issue
08:44 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
08:57 daxim .tell zoffix http://i.imgur.com/pBW3mJn.png  it's docs commit d7ed308
08:57 yoleaux daxim: I'll pass your message to zoffix.
08:59 pmurias joined #perl6
09:00 pmurias daxim: it seems to work fine here on chrome docs.perl6.org
09:01 wamba joined #perl6
09:07 pmurias joined #perl6
09:08 Skarsnik joined #perl6
09:10 margeas joined #perl6
09:19 pmurias hi
09:22 Aaronepower joined #perl6
09:23 Skarsnik hello
09:23 yoleaux 03:14Z <AlexDaniel> Skarsnik: I have tested your proposed MoarVM fix. Are you sure that it affects anything on your machine? Have you tried the snippet from this bug report? RT #131003
09:23 synopsebot6 Link:  https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131003
09:23 yoleaux 03:15Z <AlexDaniel> Skarsnik: because it makes no difference at all here. :S
09:24 Sgeo joined #perl6
09:25 mtsd left #perl6
09:25 xinming joined #perl6
09:30 zakame joined #perl6
09:31 jonas1 joined #perl6
09:32 Geth ¦ doc: zakame++ created pull request #1533: Link to non-raw GitHub page, with edit link
09:32 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/pull/1533
09:43 xtreak joined #perl6
09:44 sproctor joined #perl6
09:53 zakame joined #perl6
09:53 Geth joined #perl6
09:56 Aaronepower joined #perl6
09:59 Aaronepower joined #perl6
10:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
10:06 Geth ¦ doc: 145005a2bd | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | doc/Type/Thread.pod6
10:06 Geth ¦ doc: Initial doc for Thread.is-initial-thread
10:06 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/145005a2bd
10:08 sproctor joined #perl6
10:10 zakame joined #perl6
10:10 sproctor joined #perl6
10:14 Aaronepower joined #perl6
10:18 xtreak joined #perl6
10:20 Aaronepower joined #perl6
10:23 sproctor Morning all.
10:23 teatime \o
10:26 ShalokShalom_ joined #perl6
10:26 sproctor So I got back from holiday and decided to give Cro a poke. I'm getting an error about peer-host not existing on an IO::Async::Socket. Would this be related to running and requesting locally?
10:27 jnthn sproctor: No, just means that it depends on a feature in Rakudo 2017.08
10:27 sproctor Ahhhhhh...
10:28 sproctor See, the other thing I did this morning was move from rakudobrew to star.
10:28 sproctor I'll swap back :)
10:29 jnthn 2017.08 also contains an important memory leak fix, and you'd really not want to run Cro without that :)
10:30 El_Che sproctor: do you run it on linux?
10:30 sproctor Yup
10:30 El_Che https://github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/releases/
10:31 sproctor Ooooo.
10:33 sproctor jnthn: It looks very impressive. :)
10:35 xtreak_ joined #perl6
10:36 sproctor joined #perl6
10:38 Aaronepower joined #perl6
10:42 Aaronepower joined #perl6
10:50 Aaronepower joined #perl6
10:54 snarkyboojum joined #perl6
11:13 pmurias is rakudo.js running on top of electron interesting to people? (I had a cobbled together demo of that for TPF::EU but I could package it up in a more sane manner)
11:18 Aaronepower joined #perl6
11:23 Aaronepower joined #perl6
11:27 Aaronepower joined #perl6
11:34 pmurias joined #perl6
11:34 Aaronepower joined #perl6
11:36 BenGoldberg joined #perl6
11:43 raschipi joined #perl6
11:49 char_var[buffer] joined #perl6
11:49 Aaronepower joined #perl6
11:54 Aaronepower joined #perl6
11:58 sena_kun joined #perl6
12:01 Zoffix joined #perl6
12:01 Aaronepower joined #perl6
12:02 Zoffix .ask daxim what browser is that on do you have any user styles enabled? I can't repro your issue
12:02 yoleaux 08:57Z <daxim> Zoffix: http://i.imgur.com/pBW3mJn.png  it's docs commit d7ed308
12:02 yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to daxim.
12:04 Aaronepower joined #perl6
12:07 Zoffix It's freakin' ems for content sizing.
12:10 Geth ¦ doc: 23fb79c83b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | assets/sass/style.scss
12:10 Geth ¦ doc: Revert "Reduce width when vertical TOC shows up"
12:10 Geth ¦ doc:
12:10 Geth ¦ doc: This reverts commit d7ed308f3c23debc72e1030189b6821898c62b44.
12:10 Geth ¦ doc:
12:10 Geth ¦ doc: The site's styles are broken and use em sizes all over the place,
12:10 Geth ¦ doc: which blows up on UAs that override our font size. Reverting this,
12:10 Geth ¦ doc: with the original issue to be fixed with BS conversion.
12:10 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/23fb79c83b
12:11 Zoffix .tell daxim nevermind, your browser just has custom font size set. I reverted the commit
12:11 yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to daxim.
12:11 census joined #perl6
12:12 census I'm getting an error I can't understand at all: error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0) Internal Error: 'server returned no data'   in sub get at C:\rakudo\share\perl6\site\sources\A43871137AF18FF267579BE6084BD32415A09002 (WWW)
12:12 Zoffix .ask [Coke] how's the conversion of docs site to bootstrap going? Are you still progressing or is anyone welcome to jump in with it?
12:12 yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to [Coke].
12:13 census https://pastebin.com/3bVPV46K
12:14 leont joined #perl6
12:14 pmurias short rakudo.js update: http://blogs.perl.org/users/pawel_murias/2017/09/rakudojs-update---passes-56-of-roast-tests.html
12:15 lizmat pmurias++
12:15 Skarsnik :)
12:15 Zoffix \o/
12:15 Zoffix pmurias++ that's pretty awesome
12:18 Zoffix census: the error says the server returned no data. You're probably banned from google so it cuts the connection short. Or your sock proxy isn't working right
12:18 census Zoffix I'm able to get to google on my web browswer though
12:19 pmurias joined #perl6
12:20 Zoffix census: WWW.pm6 doesn't use your browser to connect. For one, it doesn't execute any of the JavaScript, nor does it replicate any of potential quirks the UA you claim to be has.
12:21 census Zoffix I understand -- I just meant i'm not IP-banned
12:21 census Zoffix I thought it at least relied on my IP
12:21 rindolf joined #perl6
12:21 Zoffix census: it might be just refusing requests. I know it refuses to talk with Perl's LWP::UserAgent module with its default UA string.
12:22 census Zoffix I didn't have that problem a few days ago
12:23 raschipi Zoffix: How is rendering Pod6 on github going?
12:23 Zoffix I'm not aware of any progress.
12:23 Zoffix There's an open issue somewhere.
12:25 raschipi I'm aware.
12:25 Aaronepower joined #perl6
12:26 Skarsnik the issue is not just .pod6 or not for pod file?
12:27 snarkyboojum joined #perl6
12:28 raschipi Sorry Skarsnik, can you rephrase it?
12:28 Skarsnik like should we name pod file as pod6 so github have a clue it's perl6 pod and not p5?
12:29 Zoffix The issue is there's no (current) way to safely render pod6 as you can inject arbitrary code and IIRC GitHub never responded to whether they have a problem with that; and if they don't how we go about implementing that. IIRC they asked for a PR but no idea what the PR should do or where it should go.
12:29 Zoffix Skarsnik: no, the issue is actually rendering .pod6 so they could display it on GitHub, instead of just raw file
12:29 * lizmat starts on the P6W  (it's going to be a big one this week)
12:30 Zoffix with .pod abiguity with Perl's pod... I'd say it's a non-issue TBH. Rakudo users should name their pod .pod6 and the issue disappears.
12:30 pmurias joined #perl6
12:32 census Zoffix maybe they changed the website? i tried to make a simpler version of the code and got this erro: Could not parse URI: https://patents.google.com/xhr/query?url=q%3DBabesiosis%26country%3DUS%26before%3D~ 2001 ~0101%26after%3D~ 2001 ~1231&exp=&download=true   in sub get at C:\rakudo\share\perl6\site\sources\A43871137AF18FF267579BE6084BD32415A09002 (WWW) line 9
12:32 Aaronepower joined #perl6
12:32 census Zoffix Indeed, I went to the website, and it does look a little different: https://patents.google.com/?q=Babesiosis&amp;country=US&amp;before=20011231&amp;after=20010101
12:32 census For example, there's no more /xhr/query?url
12:33 Zoffix xhr => JS stuff
12:33 census Zoffix okay are you saying I need that then?
12:33 Zoffix You probably shouldn't have it in your code and instead use that different one.
12:34 census Zoffix I don't follow what you mean. Are you saying to make the change I was thinking?
12:34 Zoffix census: I mean the URL you're accessing in your code might be wrong. Try using this format: https://patents.google.com/?q=Babesiosis&amp;country=US&amp;before=20011231&amp;after=20010101
12:35 Zoffix census: also that "could not parse URI" error suggest the code in your pastebin differs from the code you're actually using.
12:35 Zoffix 'cause the latter looks like you stuck ~ chars in an attempt to concatenate, but you stuck them inside the string itself
12:35 census Zoffix i wasn't clear. i just rewrote the code. so that's why it's 2 different errors
12:35 Zoffix ok
12:36 Zoffix Well, try the https://patents.google.com/?q=Babesiosis&amp;country=US&amp;before=20011231&amp;after=20010101 lin
12:36 Zoffix k
12:37 census Zoffix that seems to work better: https://pastebin.com/yUReR4Yn  however i got an error now about the my $results-num variable. i understand the error, but i'm not sure why it's an i issue. is it the csv part is not good?
12:38 census Variable '$results-num' is not declared at C:\Users\owner\Desktop/testgoogle.pl6:12 ------> my <HERE>$results-num = csv(:in<temp>).elems - 2;
12:38 Zoffix census: you forgot the quote on the previous line, so it's trying to interpolate $results-num in the string
12:39 zakharyas joined #perl6
12:39 census Zoffix okay that code worked
12:39 Zoffix \o/
12:40 census now what i want to do is abstract. go back to a form where i loop over years and loop over search-terms
12:40 raschipi census: you need syntax highliting
12:40 census raschipi what do you mean by that exactly? like colors visually
12:45 raschipi yes
12:45 Aaronepower joined #perl6
12:45 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
12:46 census Zoffix the code doesn't work, however. It outputs `3' no matter what
12:46 census wait hold on. i might have figured it out. give me a second
12:50 Zoffix .tell [Coke] FWIW, I'm not yet jump-in-ready. Was just curious. Though, I think I'll have time to give the SQL-based doc site a try in 4-5 weeks; it'll naturally have a new web app powering the site, so I'd be able to do BootStrap conversion then, if needed. The new system is a lot of work tho, so I'm hesitant to say "I'm gonna do it" :)
12:50 yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to [Coke].
12:51 census There's an issue with the .csv line I presume: https://pastebin.com/gFbJeBPF   to indicate it's 3 no matter what the search is
12:56 itaipu joined #perl6
12:58 Zoffix Don
12:58 Zoffix Don't presume. Print it and inspect it for yourself.
12:58 census Zoffix I just checked the .csv and I still want to delete the first 2 rows. This one should give about 700, not 3
13:00 census Zoffix I say I presume because I can't figure out where else the error is coming from. I did inspect it
13:02 census in perl5 there was a way to do something like a print screen (i forgot what it was called) to confirm that the html was indeed the correct screen
13:05 pmurias joined #perl6
13:06 Zoffix census: how did you inspect it?
13:07 census Zoffix inspect what?  i went to the link that corresponds with what i'm typing into perl6. then i downloaded the .csv and examined how many elements there are in it
13:08 census by went, i mean I went to the link in my browser
13:09 Zoffix census: so you only verified that the link you open in the browser works. It tells you nothing about the issue in your program.
13:09 census Zoffix so that means either perl6 isn't going to the link the way i think it is or it's not grabbing the .csv the way i think it is.
13:09 Zoffix census: print the data your script is downloading and inspect it before you parse it with CSV module.
13:09 census Zoffix yes that's what i was saying before. there was a way to do so in perl5. what is the way to do so in perl6?
13:10 census i used to test my code out like that all the time in perl5
13:10 Zoffix census: simple `put` will suffice. There's also `dd` routine
13:10 census are you sayign the `put' command will save it as an .html file
13:11 census Zoffix I'm looking at: https://docs.perl6.org/routine/put
13:13 census and https://docs.perl6.org/programs/01-debugging
13:16 Cabanossi joined #perl6
13:20 _28_ria joined #perl6
13:21 sakuya joined #perl6
13:21 Aaronepower joined #perl6
13:21 araraloren_fake evening
13:27 sproctor So I'm trying to see if I can use Cro::HTTP::Client standalone to get around the libSSL and threading issues. And I'm getting some errors. Does anyone know if there's anyway to get the details of the request made? the response object in the exception has a request in it but that seems to be empty. Thoughts? (And it's not done yet is a fine answer I know this is all bleeding edge).
13:28 someuser joined #perl6
13:29 timotimo cro has the tracing environment variable
13:29 timotimo you could see if that does anything for the standalone client module, too
13:32 sena_kun >the response object in the exception has a request in it but that seems to be empt
13:32 sena_kun sproctor, can you file an issue about ^?
13:32 sena_kun with your code samples.
13:34 snarkyboojum joined #perl6
13:35 raschipi joined #perl6
13:35 MasterDuke joined #perl6
13:35 devmikey joined #perl6
13:35 llfourn joined #perl6
13:37 raschipi sena_kun: You guys have a plan to use the new linux TLS accelarator?
13:38 jnthn raschipi: Link?
13:38 sena_kun raschipi, never heard about this one, so at least me - no. :) And it's going to be cross-platform(at least for windows/macos), so I can feel if's.
13:38 sena_kun *ifs
13:39 itaipu joined #perl6
13:39 jnthn Also, is that not something OpenSSL could use, and thus we'd get the benefit via that?
13:42 raschipi link: https://lwn.net/Articles/666509/ It landed in 4.13
13:43 sena_kun >Linux miskatonic 4.12.10_1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Aug 30 09:44:02 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux
13:43 sena_kun I was close.
13:43 raschipi OpenSSL needs to be involved in supporting it, but it can't be transparent.
13:44 sproctor sena_kun, I'll try and get some more info first.
13:45 sena_kun sproctor, thanks~
13:45 census Zoffix I'm not following the exact syntax
13:46 sena_kun >he said the in-kernel TLS showed 2-7% better performance than the equivalent done in user space
13:46 census i tried  dd "temp";
13:47 census Zoffix i had also tried "temp".put;
13:49 raschipi sena_kun: It's not certain that will help, they are going for the usecase where it can be offloaded to the NIC.
13:51 jnthn I don't think this is going to help much without significant changes to the way IO::Socket::Async::SSL works fwiw
13:51 jnthn Since the socket is a normal libuv socket
13:52 jnthn And so we are getting buffers and then using the BIO interface to give them to the SSH lib to decrypt
13:53 jnthn Maybe I'm missing some detail, though
13:55 geekosaur this support would need to live in libssl
13:55 sproctor sena_kun running with CRO_TRACE=1 it looks like the query string is being stripped off the URL. I'll try and golf it a bit and get something more useful.
13:55 Skarsnik_ joined #perl6
13:56 sena_kun sproctor, sounds scary, so waiting for the details.
13:57 Skarsnik__ joined #perl6
13:58 araraloren_fake https://codepaste.net/532dnp I wrote a task runner example. Any idea? I stolen some idea from p6-app-installermaker-wix@jnthn.
14:01 Aaronepower joined #perl6
14:01 Skarsnik_ joined #perl6
14:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
14:03 yuyuyu joined #perl6
14:05 yuyuyu Zoffix, Timotimo What about introducing a type "Expo", which is a combination of two Rats, a base and an exponent. This way you solve those issues and you also get a precise representation of Complex numbers
14:07 sproctor sena_kun: I've raised the issue. I *think* I might know that's causing it from a casual poke through the code.
14:09 Zoffix yuyuyu: what? I think you're confusing me with someone
14:11 Zoffix ...
14:11 Zoffix .oO( the hell was that about )
14:11 timotimo it was about your log10 function
14:12 timotimo if we carry on information about how such a number was made, i.e. by exponentiation, we could have exact results always
14:12 timotimo except of course if we parse an int from a string, or calculate a gigantic sum, or stuff like that
14:15 eliasr joined #perl6
14:15 Zoffix Wouldn't a mathemical calculation be a lot more efficient than hauling every Int made outta a power op as an Expo type that has two Rats?
14:16 Aaronepower joined #perl6
14:16 Zoffix And what do you do with Ints made outta other operations? Fail to calculate the log? I think if I could type log 10**2000, I could type the result of it too. The goal is to get the answer for arbitrary numbers
14:16 timotimo it seems a bit fragile
14:19 zakame joined #perl6
14:22 AlexDaniel joined #perl6
14:26 raschipi joined #perl6
14:33 piojo2 joined #perl6
14:34 Zoffix m: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet/ba9a8730d4c1a1119b49d3765f249fae
14:34 camelia rakudo-moar 72bf02: OUTPUT: «1?100?99?1000?10000?»
14:34 Zoffix This one actually shows up as 3.35x faster than core version :P
14:34 census what's the syntax for dumper or for put? i tried dd "temp"; from https://docs.perl6.org/programs/01-debugging
14:35 Zoffix census: what's "temp"?
14:35 Zoffix Dump the output of get() routine
14:35 census "temp".IO.spurt: get
14:35 Zoffix census: temp is the filename, dump "get"
14:35 census "temp".IO.spurt: get "http:// ...... "
14:35 Zoffix without quotes
14:35 Zoffix m: sub get { <a b c> }; dd get
14:35 camelia rakudo-moar 72bf02: OUTPUT: «("a", "b", "c")?»
14:36 census Zoffix do i need to initialize use Debugger::UI::CommandLine ? i forget the syntax for that in the cmd
14:37 census i got Dynamic variable $*DEBUG_HOOKS not found
14:37 Zoffix ummmm
14:38 Zoffix To install the module, you run zef install Debugger::UI::CommandLine in the cmd, but `dd` doesn't require that module
14:39 census did i do something wrong? https://pastebin.com/TU7dzwuU
14:39 census i tried to install the module but i still get the same error
14:40 Zoffix Ah, it's faster 'cause &log10 delegates to methods and stuff
14:41 census Zoffix what do you mean?
14:42 Zoffix I'm talking about log10
14:43 Zoffix m: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet/2539e8bebe9c5e19ab38ca43e173fe8f
14:43 camelia rakudo-moar 72bf02: OUTPUT: «1?100?99?1000?10000?»
14:43 Zoffix Though even this version comes out as 2.41x faster AND it can handle huge Ints :/
14:44 census yes i love using logs in programming. there's a lot of neat tricks it can exploit
14:45 Zoffix Gonna stash it for a later day
14:45 Zoffix huggable: log
14:45 huggable Zoffix, nothing found
14:45 Zoffix huggable: log :is: Comes out 2.41x faster than core .log10 and can handle Ints larger than 1.8e308: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet/2539e8bebe9c5e19ab38ca43e173fe8f
14:45 huggable Zoffix, Added log as Comes out 2.41x faster than core .log10 and can handle Ints larger than 1.8e308: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet/2539e8bebe9c5e19ab38ca43e173fe8f
14:46 skids joined #perl6
14:55 Geth ¦ doc: 950ad926d6 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | doc/Type/IO/Handle.pod6
14:55 Geth ¦ doc: Document output buffering.
14:55 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/950ad926d6
15:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
15:11 devmikey joined #perl6
15:14 Sgeo_ joined #perl6
15:15 Khisanth joined #perl6
15:20 khw joined #perl6
15:29 sjn o/
15:30 * sjn takes another stab at cro today o/
15:32 El_Che sjn: it's not that bad. Don't stab it!
15:32 Cabanossi joined #perl6
15:33 piojo2 joined #perl6
15:35 sjn El_Che: the docs are a bit confusing :-\
15:37 census Zoffix you have a second to clarify how i'm getting the dumper still wrong? otherwise how is the put syntax? i tried how i understood it from the perl6  docs
15:42 rindolf Hi all! I am having some problems bootstrapping zef - http://paste.debian.net/984408/
15:42 Ben_Goldberg joined #perl6
15:44 jnthn sjn: What, in particular, is confusing?
15:46 sjn jnthn: I'm looking at the "cro stub" stuff
15:47 Xal joined #perl6
15:48 jnthn Hm, that'd perhaps be nicer if it more prominently mentioned that if you don't specify any options then you'll be prompted for them interactively
15:48 jnthn Any other tips for improvement are welcome
15:49 sjn some of the terminology is a bit confusing
15:49 sjn e.g. is a "service name" the same as "id"?
15:50 zacts joined #perl6
15:52 sjn also, I'm having a little trouble getting the ":link" option to work
15:53 jnthn No, name is human-friendly and can contain anything, id is what it's referred to in other instructions
15:53 jnthn Though name is set to id by default
15:55 jnthn We're still largely to do :link stuff (it's pretty high on the roadmap)
15:55 jnthn The upside of writing docs before code is that everything is doc'd. The downside of writing docs before code is sometimes you didn't write the code yet. :)
15:56 sjn ...until n00bs like be come rushing head-first in and then hitting that wall. :-)
15:56 * sjn *smacks head into wall*
15:56 timotimo put "die 'NYI'" everywhere :)
15:56 rindolf Can anyone help me? Is it a bug?
15:56 sjn or just a "..." :)
15:57 jnthn Yeah, sorry about that. Once we're a release or two down the line (and certainly once we hit 1.0) we'll make sure to have versioned docs.
15:58 sjn here's another doc-confusion: under "HTTP Services" in the cro-tool document, it says ":link<service>", but the terms before this talk about "service-type" or "id"
15:58 jnthn Yeah, :link<service-id> would be clearer.
15:59 sjn then the first example for using "cro stub" should also say "<service-id>"
16:01 jnthn Please file an issue, if you've a moment
16:01 setty1 joined #perl6
16:01 sjn sure
16:02 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 6dcc590d7b | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
16:02 Geth ¦ ecosystem: make maintenance easier
16:02 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/6dcc590d7b
16:02 sjn btw, how do I get the interactive version of cro stub?
16:03 jnthn Just don't specify any options
16:03 jnthn There's also a web UI planned for the future
16:07 jnthn m: say 1.11 / 1.29
16:07 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «0.860465?»
16:07 jnthn oops, wrong window
16:11 sjn sjn: I get a usage message if I do that
16:12 sjn jnthn: ^
16:13 jnthn sjn: huh, odd...
16:13 Ulti sooo I am having a really unhappy time in Python... I think Perl 6 has ruined all languages for me
16:13 jnthn Wait, by options I mean the last ['options'] bit
16:13 jnthn Not all the other options
16:15 Ulti http://www.attrs.org/ <--- the problems this fixes are in many ways worse problems than Perl 5 OO and Moose is at least one relatively standardised one way to get nicer OO meta programming
16:15 sjn jnthn: ah
16:19 ShalokShalom joined #perl6
16:19 rindolf OK, I reported it here - https://github.com/ugexe/zef/issues/202
16:25 sjn jnthn: https://github.com/croservices/cro/compare/master...sjn:patch-1
16:26 sjn tried to fix a bunch of issues, but I'm not sure about the best way to write about the relationship between service-id and service-name
16:27 timotimo "is by default set to this" sounds strange; "is this by default" instead perhaps?
16:27 jnthn "to be used with other `cro` commands. `service-name` is by default" - that . wants to be a ; I think
16:27 jnthn Also what timotimo noted
16:30 sjn Allright; https://github.com/croservices/cro/compare/master...sjn:patch-2
16:30 wamba joined #perl6
16:31 dogbert2 joined #perl6
16:32 sjn hm. the cro stub http foo example needs still some love
16:32 ChoHag joined #perl6
16:32 jnthn link<service-name>` should be link<service-id>`
16:32 jnthn To run a specific service, write its `service-name`
16:32 jnthn That should also be service-id
16:32 jnthn And appears as `id` in the .cro.yml
16:33 sjn mm
16:33 sjn I've sent a pull-request already, but if you want I can make another one
16:33 tbrowder hi, #perl6, i'm having trouble with my modules failing on travis and i can't figure out why. one of the modules is at github.com/tbrowder/Net-IP-Lite-Perl6; branch "release". i would appreciate any help.  thanks.
16:34 sena_kun joined #perl6
16:35 jnthn sjn: I can fix it up later on today if you don't have chance to fix it. About time to go for dinner here :)
16:35 sjn I'll give it a shot before they throw me out of the cafe here :)
16:37 Ulti tbrowder: your json isnt valid
16:37 Ulti Error: Parse error on line 10:
16:37 Ulti ...ite-Perl6/issues",},"provides": {
16:37 Ulti ----------------------^
16:37 Ulti Expecting 'STRING', got '}'
16:37 Ulti excuse the paste
16:38 Zoffix rindolf: at a guess, zef is having trouble creating its config file
16:38 timotimo because of the trailing , inside the { }
16:39 Ulti tbrowder: https://github.com/tbrowder/Net-IP-Lite-Perl6/pull/3
16:39 Ulti tbrowder: https://jsonlint.com/ to the rescure on that, your master branch doesn't have the same issue
16:40 Zoffix census: well, the code you pastebinned last has an error. You're meant to dump the output of *your* get call, not a random get(). You should consider reading some of the introductory rourses: https://perl6.org/resources/
16:43 sjn jnthn: allright, final attempt done. :)
16:43 sjn https://github.com/croservices/cro/pull/15
16:47 rindolf Zoffix: thanks!
16:51 jnthn sjn: Thanks, will review/merge after dinner :) bbl
16:54 robertle joined #perl6
16:57 rindolf tbrowder: it says this isn't valid - https://github.com/tbrowder/Net-IP-Lite-Perl6/blob/release/META6.json
16:58 moritz \o
16:59 chsanch joined #perl6
17:01 rindolf moritz: hey
17:01 moritz ho
17:01 lizmat joined #perl6
17:03 raschipi Let's go.
17:07 tbrowder okay, my bad, i modified the file and missed the comma, oh for hjsan! thanks, Ulti!
17:07 tbrowder *hjson*
17:12 konsolebox joined #perl6
17:12 nadim joined #perl6
17:12 audiatorix joined #perl6
17:14 census Zoffix yes i agree it looked off. i was trying to read the perldocs https://docs.perl6.org/programs/01-debugging and https://docs.perl6.org/routine/put for sntax help
17:15 nattefrost joined #perl6
17:17 Cabanossi joined #perl6
17:17 Exodist joined #perl6
17:17 Zoffix census: it's just a regular routine that takes arguments.
17:21 census Zoffix i thought the get from "temp".IO.spurt: get "https: ... " is stored in "temp" so i had tried "temp".put
17:21 census i'm not going to do data dump -- i do remember that from perl5, but i'm still having trouble with that package
17:22 census that package in perl6. i'm just not figuring out how to set it up on this computer for perl6
17:23 geekosaur census: "temp" is not a handle. "temp".IO is a file path, to which you can spurt (open, write an entire thing, close)
17:24 census can i do something like dd "temp.IO ;
17:24 geekosaur you can but it'll just show you an IO::Path object, not file contents
17:25 geekosaur "temp" is a Str. "temp".IO is an IO::Path object --- a pathname.
17:25 census may i ask how to see the file contents? saved as an .html file. i've done it before in perl5
17:25 geekosaur "temp".IO.slurp
17:27 Sound joined #perl6
17:28 census i can't remember in perl5 geekosaur. is there a way to save data dump to an .html. i feel like i used to do a print command with it so i'd save as an .html and then i can open up the file
17:29 geekosaur I don't recall an html dumper but there's this bit where web programmers always assume everyone is a web programmer and eat and shits html and json and no other formats ever exist
17:30 geekosaur not to mention that "ibfrstructure" can only mena web infrastructure, "api" can only mean web api, etc.
17:30 census geekosaur i don't follow you but i know in perl5 i was able to see the .html i was doing
17:30 geekosaur basically my whole career has been erased because web programmers know there only is and only ever has been the web
17:30 geekosaur I do not know what html magic you used in perl 5
17:31 census i'll have to read my old codes again
17:31 census anyhow, here's my current code geekosaur: https://pastebin.com/qp0fLmx3
17:31 geekosaur I know you expect that all perl 5 programmers know that everything is, always has been, and always will be html, and therefore everyone knows only of those things
17:31 geekosaur in perl 5 I used Data::Dumper. which does nto create html
17:31 geekosaur I do not know what you used
17:32 geekosaur yes, that's right, there are dumpers that do not produce html
17:32 geekosaur and some programmers even use them
17:32 census you're correct now that I think about it. but I did use Data::Dumper I believe with an html print sort of statement
17:32 census geekosaur in my current code, the "say" statement prints the wrong number. i don't know it he problem is in how the $results variable is being created or with the get statement
17:35 audiatorix joined #perl6
17:35 tbrowder hm, Test::Deeply::Relaxed looks like it may be the culprit, I filed a bug report there on 22Jul, i guess i'll have to change my tests--bummer!
17:39 sjn jnthn: I'm also trying to test cro-zeromq, but it looks like I'm getting random segfaults here (!)
17:41 timotimo might have the wrong zmq version perhaps
17:41 sena_kun wrong version.
17:41 sena_kun https://github.com/arnsholt/Net-ZMQ#supported-version
17:42 sena_kun 4.2 will give you segfaults, errors, failed asserts, occasional Ctugha awakening, etc.
17:42 sena_kun sjn, ^^^
17:46 sjn hm
17:50 rindolf Hmmm... seems like moar consumes 10% of my 3gb of ram
17:55 leont joined #perl6
18:01 leont I'm not sure what «Type check failed in binding to parameter '<anon>'; expected Any but got NQPMu» means, probably .made related
18:01 konsolebox joined #perl6
18:02 moritz leont: try running your program with --ll-exception, then you should get the source location even if it's within rakudo's source code
18:03 leont It's triggered in Test.pm's _is_deeply
18:03 [Coke] .tell Zoffix anyone is welcome to jump in. if I had progress to show, it'd be in a branch.
18:03 yoleaux 12:12Z <Zoffix> [Coke]: how's the conversion of docs site to bootstrap going? Are you still progressing or is anyone welcome to jump in with it?
18:03 yoleaux [Coke]: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
18:03 yoleaux 12:50Z <Zoffix> [Coke]: FWIW, I'm not yet jump-in-ready. Was just curious. Though, I think I'll have time to give the SQL-based doc site a try in 4-5 weeks; it'll naturally have a new web app powering the site, so I'd be able to do BootStrap conversion then, if needed. The new system is a lot of work tho, so I'm hesitant to say "I'm gonna do it" :)
18:04 leont moritz: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/565029. Can't see anything refering to my code in it, except the line calling is-deeply
18:06 [Coke] getting a doc failure: $ perl6 t/meta.t
18:06 [Coke] ===SORRY!===
18:06 [Coke] Could not find META6:ver<0.0.4..*> at line 66 in:
18:06 moritz m: Any eqv Mu
18:06 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «WARNINGS for <tmp>:?Useless use of "eqv" in expression "Any eqv Mu" in sink context (line 1)?Type check failed in binding to parameter '<anon>'; expected Any but got Mu (Mu)?  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1??»
18:07 moritz leont: you're passing a Mu to is-deeply, which passes it on to eqv, which doesn't like that
18:07 Zoffix And can't be made to like it; there are roast tests testing that it autothreads with junctions
18:07 yoleaux 18:03Z <[Coke]> Zoffix: anyone is welcome to jump in. if I had progress to show, it'd be in a branch.
18:08 Zoffix But the error says NQPMu, not regular Mu; perhaps there's another place where it leaks out, like it did with Match.made
18:12 domidumont joined #perl6
18:12 konsolebox joined #perl6
18:22 leont Zoffix: Match.made is involved, how recently was that fixed?
18:24 Zoffix On my box it's still present with 2017.07-209-g26287a1
18:25 Zoffix bisect: say 42 eqv Match.new.made
18:25 bisectable6 Zoffix, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=4b02b8a) the exit code is 0 and the output is identical as well
18:25 bisectable6 Zoffix, Output on both points: «False»
18:25 Zoffix bisect: old=2017.07-209-g26287a1,new=HEAD say 42 eqv Match.new.made
18:25 bisectable6 Zoffix, Bisecting by exit code (old=2017.07-209-g26287a1 new=4b02b8a). Old exit code: 1
18:25 bisectable6 Zoffix, bisect log: https://gist.github.com/1eb7c70bb85340b147c6208158debf56
18:25 bisectable6 Zoffix, (2017-08-21) https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5db5b1dbfa0b625130573574e2409972387e9f75
18:25 Zoffix ^ then
18:26 Skarsnik_ we should call bisectable6 to "whotoblame"
18:26 leont Yeah, not observing the behavior with my git checkout perl6, guess I should upgrade my rakudobrew perl6
18:26 espadrine joined #perl6
18:26 * Zoffix rather call it "whofixedit" :)
18:26 leont This isn't isn't even the first time that commit affected my code!
18:27 Zoffix :P
18:27 [Coke] is doc's t/meta.t failing for anyone else?
18:29 Zoffix m: 2017.05,2017.06,2017.07,2017.08 say 42 eqv Match.new.made
18:29 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>?Two terms in a row?at <tmp>:1?------> 2017.05,2017.06,2017.07,2017.087?5 say 42 eqv Match.new.made?    expecting any of:?        infix?        infix stopper?        statement end?    …»
18:29 Zoffix c: 2017.05,2017.06,2017.07,2017.08 say 42 eqv Match.new.made
18:29 cdg joined #perl6
18:30 Zoffix committable6: c'mon, bruh
18:30 Zoffix c: 2017.07,2017.08 say 42 eqv Match.new.made
18:30 lumimies_ joined #perl6
18:30 pierrot_ joined #perl6
18:30 Zoffix Dammit, now I don't have evidence to blame leont for using dev commits instead of proper releases :P
18:31 timeless_ joined #perl6
18:33 tinita_ joined #perl6
18:33 brimonk_ joined #perl6
18:33 kubrat_ joined #perl6
18:33 Zoffix hm, what happened to *able ./start-all script?
18:33 telex joined #perl6
18:34 |oLa| joined #perl6
18:34 MasterDuke there's a Sakefile now
18:34 Zoffix How do I use it?
18:34 Zoffix Trying to kill and restart commitable
18:34 MasterDuke i think just `sake start-all`
18:34 Zoffix And even after I killed its process it's still on IRC :/
18:35 committable6_ joined #perl6
18:35 Zoffix c: 2017.05,2017.06,2017.07,2017.08 say 42 eqv Match.new.made
18:35 committable6_ Zoffix, ¦2017.05,2017.06,2017.07,2017.08: «Type check failed in binding to parameter '<anon>'; expected Any but got NQPMu (?)?  in block <unit> at /tmp/RyG9b1WkOr line 1? «exit code = 1»»
18:35 MasterDuke it has become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
18:35 Zoffix Heh, OK, looks like that bug existed every since Cursor/Match merge.
18:36 Zoffix c: 2017.05,2017.06,2017.07,2017.08 Match.new.made.say
18:36 committable6_ Zoffix, ¦2017.05,2017.06,2017.07,2017.08: «No such method 'say' for invocant of type 'NQPMu'?  in block <unit> at /tmp/OalhCLwHdo line 1? «exit code = 1»»
18:36 ecocode_ joined #perl6
18:37 reu joined #perl6
18:37 Zoffix hm, well, YAMLish shows up as a SUCC on last toast result: https://toast.perl6.party/module?module=YAMLish&amp;commit=2017.07
18:38 Zoffix I guess leont++ was writing new tests that showed the Any vs. Nil issue and the eqv NQPMu thing
18:38 * Zoffix feels less guilty about breaking stuff :)
18:38 jdh_ joined #perl6
18:42 nadim_ joined #perl6
18:42 charsbar joined #perl6
18:43 eater joined #perl6
18:44 domm joined #perl6
18:44 FiendKing04 joined #perl6
18:44 rindolf Zoffix: hi
18:44 rindolf Zoffix: the zef problem was fixed
18:45 [Coke] (doc t/meta) rakudobrew+installed module hell. nevermind.
18:45 pm51 joined #perl6
18:45 rindolf Zoffix: it should have been -Ilib instad of -I.
18:45 spider-mario joined #perl6
18:46 diegok joined #perl6
18:47 Zoffix Ah
18:47 wictory[m] joined #perl6
18:48 wamba[m] joined #perl6
18:48 Matthew[m] joined #perl6
18:48 ilmari[m] joined #perl6
18:48 andrzejku joined #perl6
18:49 rindolf Zoffix: :-)
18:49 rindolf Zoffix: thanks for your help, though
18:59 [Coke] m: my $at = "this@that"; say $at.gist; dd $at
18:59 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «this@that?Str $at = "this\@that"?»
18:59 [Coke] ^^ why does dd escape the @?
18:59 S007 joined #perl6
18:59 [Coke] (that seems like a p5-ism)
18:59 lizmat m: my $at = "this@that"; say $at.perl
18:59 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «"this\@that"?»
18:59 lizmat it does because Str.perl apparently does
19:00 xinming joined #perl6
19:00 geekosaur I think it's a holdover
19:01 geekosaur we used to expand @ (possibly pre-6.c) but it was decided that literal use is more common
19:02 geekosaur er, I meant pre-glr there
19:03 lizmat [Coke]: the reason is probably that .perl output is intended to be EVALlable
19:04 Zoffix m: dd ">>»[]@foo"
19:04 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «">>»[]\@foo"?»
19:04 Zoffix Probably because it's easier to escape the `@` instead of all the possible following chars that could make it interpolatable
19:04 lizmat m: my @a = <a b c>; my $s = '@a[]'; dd $s.perl
19:04 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «"\"\\\@a[]\""?»
19:05 Zoffix m: my @a = <a b c>; say "@a».uc()"
19:05 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «A B C?»
19:05 Zoffix m: my @a = <a b c>; say "@a».uc()".perl
19:05 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «"A B C"?»
19:05 geekosaur oh right, only interpolates with Stuff
19:05 Zoffix m: my @a = <a b c>; say '@a».uc()'.perl
19:05 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «"\@a».uc()"?»
19:06 lizmat m: my @a = <a b c>; my $s = '@a[]'; dd $s
19:06 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «Str $s = "\@a[]"?»
19:06 lizmat m: my @a = <a b c>; my $s = '@a[]'; dd $s.perl.EVAL
19:06 camelia rakudo-moar 4b02b8: OUTPUT: «"\@a[]"?»
19:06 lizmat that's why  :-)
19:06 Zoffix :)
19:25 lizmat joined #perl6
19:30 ipatrol joined #perl6
19:31 ipatrol Amazingly, both Perl 6 and Japanese grammar are starting to make sense to me
19:34 tyil .hug samcv
19:34 * huggable hugs samcv
19:34 sena_kun ipatrol, Japanese grammar is (mostly) easy, isn't it? Very ambiguous though. And hard to produce correctly. And sonkeigo is horrifying. And numerical system is a disaster. Well, ok, don't listen to me.
19:34 samcv yay hugs
19:35 samcv .hug tyil
19:35 * huggable hugs tyil
19:35 tyil :3
19:35 ipatrol sena_kun: the syntactical grammar is easy, what's hard are the semantics
19:35 sena_kun ipatrol, true.
19:36 ipatrol Right now I'm trying to write a toy program designed to automatically conjugate Japanese verbs given their hiragana form and the desired mood/tense
19:36 sena_kun oh, sounds cool.
19:36 ipatrol Which probably already exists, but I'm writing it mostly for study/reinforcement
19:37 sena_kun but why do you need kana? you have already the ending of the verb.
19:37 tesla_ joined #perl6
19:37 ipatrol sena_kun: do I? I'm not far enough along in the course to know if that's so
19:38 ipatrol I just figured that conjugations are a thing, looked them up, and indeed they are
19:40 sena_kun I know about 2k kanji as for now and I've never seen an exception from what I'm going to say... For example, if you have "??"(or (perhaps, almost) any other verb), you can derive conjugation just from "?" already. You don't need to feed "???"(i.e. hiragana of the verb) to your program.
19:40 sena_kun Or I didn't understand properly how you're doing it.
19:41 ipatrol sena_kun: I'm just using a simple tail regex to separate the verb endings. Doesn't matter either way, actually
19:41 sena_kun true.
19:42 ipatrol I started with this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fc6f6a3e4968e1ce59f4a823549b360a but I'm actually rearranging it to take advantage of the vowel table
19:43 Geth ¦ ecosystem: gabrielash++ created pull request #363: Update META.list
19:43 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/pull/363
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 74bcef6d66 | gabrielash++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: Update META.list
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/74bcef6d66
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 22a1a22ea7 | lizmat++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: Merge pull request #363 from gabrielash/patch-1
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem:
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: Update META.list
19:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/22a1a22ea7
19:44 sena_kun ipatrol, seems good.
19:44 sena_kun >(given 'pol'
19:44 sena_kun >?
19:44 ipatrol polite form
19:44 sena_kun I feel some Lisp presence. :)
19:44 ipatrol no, I've never so much as glanced at Lisp, actually
19:45 tbrowder ref: Test::Deeply::Relaxed, i can't figure out why it's a dependency. any way to get zef to tell me the actual dependency chain?
19:46 ipatrol And as for the lambda, that's a bit of a personal pun on "lemma"
19:47 cdg joined #perl6
19:48 sena_kun Quite a fun concidence here, since I need to review kanji right now. :) So won't be interfering into your fun, ipatrol. Have luck!
19:54 ipatrol sena_kun: am I correct that when conjugating a verb as polite in addition to another tense, you just conjugate it as polite first and then do the other conjugation on the ?? tail?
19:55 tesla_ left #perl6
19:57 sena_kun ipatrol, it depends. Do you mind if I pm you? Offtopic a bit.
19:57 ipatrol sena_kun: dozo
20:06 tbrowder trying the --serial option to zef to see if that sheds some light...
20:07 sena_kun tbrowder, you can file an issue at zef repo(https://github.com/ugexe/zef), maybe. Or browse through the sources to make a little patch, maybe.
20:10 nadim_ joined #perl6
20:14 Kyo91_ joined #perl6
20:19 tbrowder sena_kun: good idea on the feature request issue (a patch would be nice, but zef to me is in the stratosphere!)
20:20 sena_kun tbrowder, yeah, the code seems complex and it depends on mostly undocumented stuff.
20:21 ipatrol black magic
20:21 sena_kun I wanted to do something with panda(when zef wasn't so stable), but in the end couldn't do anything useful.
20:22 sena_kun "To do something" in a good meaning.
20:39 ufobat joined #perl6
20:44 ugexe tbrowder: according to `zef rdepends Test::Deeply::Relaxed` only one module depends on Test::Deeply::Relaxed - Getopt::Std
20:45 tbrowder ugexe: thanks!
20:51 ugexe wonder what the best way to display the entire dependency graph is
20:52 ugexe i.e. is a simple \t per level going to take up too much space to be useful for any non-trivial dependency chain?
20:53 ugexe i had this feature implemented before and it just labeled things 1.0.0.0, 1.0.0.1, 1.0.1.0, 1.0.1.1, 1.0.1.2 etc, so it was machine readable but to a human not as much
20:54 sena_kun good night, #perl6! o/
20:57 TEttinger joined #perl6
20:59 lizmat and another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: https://p6weekly.wordpress.com/2017/09/04/2017-36-blogs-a-reading/
21:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
21:07 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 8e2181b067 | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
21:07 Geth ¦ ecosystem: make maintenance easier
21:07 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/8e2181b067
21:15 * lizmat notices at least one new ecosystem entry in next week's P6W
21:15 * lizmat gets an early night before a very early morning
21:15 Zoffix lizmat++ # good weekly; lizmat++ # pluggin my blog; lizmat++ nice presentation for Weeklies :) (I looked through slides)
21:16 Zoffix Crazy how recent some of the functionality in rakudo is... Makes me feel anything's possible :)
21:17 dogbert2 joined #perl6
21:18 timotimo :) :)
21:22 rindolf https://github.com/nkh/P6-Data-Dump-Tree/pull/32/files - yay! Removed 80 lines
21:29 Zoffix \o/
21:31 tokage joined #perl6
21:50 rindolf Zoffix: :)
21:55 kerframil joined #perl6
22:01 nowan joined #perl6
22:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
22:09 cdg joined #perl6
22:14 Rawriful joined #perl6
22:16 cdg joined #perl6
22:21 masak joined #perl6
22:24 Ven joined #perl6
22:29 nadim_ rindolf: those lines where there for compatibility with multiple browsers, I tested those a few years ago, like 10, on different browsers, are the ones left enough for most modern browsers?
22:30 rindolf nadim_: practically all of them
22:30 rindolf nadim_: see my commit msg
22:30 rindolf nadim_: and link
22:31 nadim_ rindolf++ a good start
22:32 Cabanossi joined #perl6
22:39 rindolf nadim_: thanks
23:02 Cabanossi joined #perl6
23:03 AlexDaniel joined #perl6
23:19 grondilu joined #perl6
23:23 raschipi joined #perl6
23:28 Aaronepower joined #perl6
23:31 ipatrol joined #perl6
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: d607c78644 | (Zak B. Elep)++ | 2 files
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: Link to non-raw GitHub page, with edit link
23:33 Geth ¦ doc:
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: Let the pod6 docs link to their non-raw GitHub pages, so visitors can
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: see and maybe help out on improving some more.  And for convenience,
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: also provide an edit link.
23:33 Geth ¦ doc:
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: There's probably some more improvement to do on the footer as well; will
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: further work on separate commits/PRs.
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/d607c78644
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: f7c92249cb | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: Merge pull request #1533 from zakame/link-to-non-raw-pages-on-github
23:33 Geth ¦ doc:
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: Link to non-raw GitHub page, with edit link
23:33 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/f7c92249cb
23:43 [Coke] lizmat: what does HLL mean in the context of doc commit 145005a2bde389848cb5a12bfc60790915d33696 ? (HLL is tripping the spell check; I was going to add it, but I realize that I don't know what you're trying to say there.
23:43 AlexDaniel where are the bots :o
23:43 AlexDaniel stuck trying to reconnect
23:44 bisectable6 joined #perl6
23:44 committable6 joined #perl6
23:44 nativecallable6 joined #perl6
23:44 benchable6 joined #perl6
23:44 coverable6 joined #perl6
23:44 quotable6 joined #perl6
23:44 bloatable6 joined #perl6
23:44 greppable6 joined #perl6
23:44 unicodable6 joined #perl6
23:44 releasable6 joined #perl6
23:44 evalable6 joined #perl6
23:44 squashable6 joined #perl6
23:44 statisfiable6 joined #perl6
23:49 MasterDuke [Coke]: HLL usually means high-level language (i.e., Perl 6 compared to C (or maybe NQP))

| Channels | #perl6 index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | summary

Perl 6 | Reference Documentation | Rakudo