Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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00:01 AlexDaniel squashable6: next
00:01 squashable6 AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in 1 day and ≈9 hours (2017-10-07 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day
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01:54 Topic for #perl6 is now »ö« Welcome to Perl 6! | https://perl6.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or rakudo:,  or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: http://irc.perl6.org or http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/perl6 | UTF-8 is our friend!
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03:08 perlawhirl There's some forgettable syntax for declaring a Map with abitrary data type as the key (instead of string). Can anyone remind me
03:08 perlawhirl something something... with colon's and Any
03:11 AlexDaniel perlawhirl: what about https://docs.perl6.org/type/Hash#Non-string_keys
03:13 AlexDaniel m: my %foo{Int}; %foo<abc> = 42
03:13 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «Type check failed in binding to parameter 'key'; expected Int but got Str ("abc")␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
03:13 BenGoldberg m: my %foo{Any}; %foo{pi} = 42; dd %foo;
03:13 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «Hash[Any,Any] %foo = (my Any %{Any} = 3.14159265358979e0 => 42)␤»
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03:14 AlexDaniel perlawhirl: this is doc-ed in https://docs.perl6.org/type/Hash#method_keyof
03:14 BenGoldberg m: my %foo{Any}; %foo{pi} of Str = 42; dd %foo;
03:14 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Bogus statement␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3my %foo{Any}; %foo{pi} o7⏏5f Str = 42; dd %foo;␤    expecting any of:␤        whitespace␤»
03:16 AlexDaniel perlawhirl: I've created this issue for you: https://github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1588
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03:25 perlawhirl AlexDaniel++
03:25 perlawhirl thanks
03:27 perlawhirl m: my %h{Any}; %h{set('this', 'that')} = True; say %h{set(< that this that that this >)}
03:27 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «True␤»
03:27 perlawhirl cool
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03:34 perlawhirl digging through my notes, i think the syntax i was thinking of was something like my Hash[Any,Any] $h = :{}
03:34 perlawhirl but I should be able to remember %h{Any} without too much hassle
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04:44 AlexDaniel squashable6:  status
04:44 squashable6 AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in 1 day and ≈5 hours (2017-10-07 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day
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05:01 AlexDaniel buggable: LHF
05:01 AlexDaniel buggable: tag LHF
05:02 buggable AlexDaniel, There are 5 tickets tagged with LHF; See http://fail.rakudo.party/t/LHF for details
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05:18 AlexDaniel Geth: ver https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/22f00cd72deaaaafbaeb1ad83187309854e33739
05:19 Geth AlexDaniel, version bump brought in these changes: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/compare/2017.02-67-g5023309...2017.02-69-g4ceee06d
05:19 AlexDaniel Geth: ver https://github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/b083e3471a25bf376fa89b5ec53969b870eb6ac2
05:19 Geth AlexDaniel, version bump brought in these changes: https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/2017.02-31-g91aab71...2017.02-38-g58457845
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07:05 hoffentlichja where are the rakudo issues reported?
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07:24 hoffentlichja nevermind I'm reading the wiki right now
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07:32 El_Che hoffentlichja: rt
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09:43 DrForr Anyone around?
09:44 jnthn o/
09:44 El_Che DrForr: you're the last man on earth. This is a recorded message.
09:44 El_Che DrForr: Will you join linkedin
09:44 El_Che :)
09:44 DrForr Yay! Bring on Jennifer Lawrence! (see: /Passengers/)
09:45 DrForr Waiting... :)
09:45 El_Che the ever optimist
09:46 DrForr Hey, gotta have a dream. I had a thought about the Test module.
09:47 DrForr I'm finding myself wanting something like does { my $setup = 1; return 3 }, 'the block returns true';
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09:57 DrForr I.E. I'd want to put this into a subtest{} block, but really only want to run one test in that block.
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10:01 Geth ¦ ecosystem: a03882c64b | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
10:01 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove module which is now in CPAN
10:01 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/a03882c64b
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10:02 tbrowder DrForr: hi!
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10:03 tbrowder are you going to get a chance to integrate my PR for  yr grammar module?
10:06 tbrowder that’s the Perl6::Parser...
10:08 Zoffix DrForr: ok do { my $setup = 1; return 3 },
10:08 Zoffix DrForr: ok do { my $setup = 1; return 3 }, 'the block returns true'
10:11 Zoffix well, can't `return` from a block, but just use `do`. No need to invent anything new :)
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10:29 DrForr tbrowder: Remind me again tonight...
10:30 DrForr Zoffix: Right, I'd forgotten about do{}. I was doing sub() and thinking that wasn't *quite* the right answer...
10:30 Zoffix Also, we already have a `does-ok` with a different meaning :)
10:30 Zoffix m: use Test; does-ok 42, Numeric
10:30 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «ok 1 - The object does role 'Numeric'␤»
10:30 DrForr Ah, right, role stuff.
10:31 DrForr Any more of this and I'll start writing p6 best practices :)
10:31 Zoffix :)
10:36 Zoffix hoffentlichja: there's also https://fail.rakudo.party/ that lists all currently open rakudo tickets that I find more usable than RT
10:37 HoboWithAShotgun how do i turn an into into a hexadecimal string representation?
10:37 HoboWithAShotgun s/an/an Int/
10:37 jnthn m: say 16.base(16)
10:37 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «10␤»
10:38 HoboWithAShotgun ?? i thought it tried that
10:38 moritz m: printf '%x', 32
10:38 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «20»
10:42 moritz m: say '20'.unbase(16)
10:42 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «No such method 'unbase' for invocant of type 'Str'␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
10:42 moritz m: say :16('20')
10:42 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «32␤»
10:44 HoboWithAShotgun m: "0;255;12".split(";").map({ .Int }).map({ sprintf("%02x", $_) }).join.say
10:44 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «00ff0c␤»
10:44 HoboWithAShotgun fine. but is there a better way?
10:44 Zoffix perlawhirl: there are 4 syntaxes for the object hash thing: `my Int %h` constraints *values* to just `Int` objects; `my %h{Int}` constrains *keys* to just `Int`; you can combine these two and write, say, `my Num %h{Int}` to constrain keys to Int and values to Num; there's also `Hash[Num].new: 42 => 2e0`, `Hash[Num,Int].new: 42 => 2e0` or `Hash.^parameterize(Num,Int).new: 42, 2e0` to do the same; except here
10:44 Zoffix you can do it with values from variables and stuff. And lastly, there's the `:{ }` circumfix op that creates an object hash with `Mu` constrainted values and `Any` constrainted keys.
10:45 HoboWithAShotgun m: "0;255;12".split(";").map({ sprintf("%02x", .Int) }).join.say
10:45 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «00ff0c␤»
10:45 moritz m: say "0;255;12".split(';')».Int».fmt('%02x').join
10:45 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «00ff0c␤»
10:46 Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: this is color stuff, innit?
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10:46 HoboWithAShotgun no shit sherlock
10:46 Zoffix :S
10:46 Zoffix huggable: swearjar
10:46 huggable Zoffix, nothing found
10:46 HoboWithAShotgun :D i always wanted to say that
10:46 Zoffix huggable: swear jar
10:46 huggable Zoffix, Help Perl 6. Donate: https://donate.perlfoundation.org/
10:48 Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: well, why not use the color modules instead of re-inventing the wheel?
10:48 Zoffix buggable: color
10:48 Zoffix eco: color
10:48 tyil Zoffix: “Perlâ€
10:48 buggable Zoffix, Found 6 results: Data::Dump, Color, Term::ANSIColor, Terminal::ANSIColor, IRC::TextColor. See https://modules.perl6.org/s/color
10:48 tyil I think there's an encoding bug on that page
10:49 Zoffix eco: Color
10:49 buggable Zoffix, Color 'Format conversion, manipulation, and math operations on colours': https://github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-Color 5 other matching results: https://modules.perl6.org/s/
10:49 tyil eco: Config
10:49 buggable tyil, Config 'Extensible library for reading and writing configuration files.': https://github.com/scriptkitties/p6-Config 12 other matching results: https://modules.perl6.org/s/
10:49 Zoffix tyil: a few moons ago [Coke] mentioned it to TPF, but I guess it never got fixed
10:49 tyil neat
10:49 tyil Zoffix: is there a public repo for this where I can put up a PR?
10:51 Zoffix c: HEAD use lib <data/all-modules/zoffixznet/perl6-Color/lib>; use Color; Color.new(|"0;255;12".comb(/\d+/)».Int).say
10:51 committable6 Zoffix, ¦HEAD(a28c00a): «#00FF0C»
10:51 Zoffix I guess that ain't much improvement....
10:52 Zoffix tyil: don't know. Ask [Coke] or lizmat. They're the TPF people
10:53 tyil [Coke], lizmat: it looks like there's an encoding bug on https://donate.perlfoundation.org/, in the third paragraph it shows “Perlâ€
10:53 Zoffix m: "0;255;12".comb(/\d+/)».fmt("%02x").join.say
10:53 camelia rakudo-moar a28c00: OUTPUT: «00ff0c␤»
10:53 Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: ^ two better ways
10:53 lizmat hmmm... wonder being on the Grant Committee makes you a TPF person
10:54 HoboWithAShotgun ty zoffix. but terminal::ansicolor and the rest don't deal with rgb colors, they are all just using the 16 color palette
10:54 lizmat anyways, [Coke] would be the person to be able to actually fix that, I have no access to the perlfoundation site
10:54 Zoffix Ah :) my bad
10:54 tyil he's been highlighted a couple times now, I guess he'll read back what the fuss was
10:55 DrForr HoboWithAShotgun: Yeah, 'Color' is an overloaded term :)
10:56 HoboWithAShotgun that's why my module to deal with them is called Terminal::Vision::Screen::Driver::Xterm
10:57 HoboWithAShotgun Of course there's other stuff too under T::V
10:57 Zoffix You should make a PR to Color to add a method for conversion to 16 pallet :)
10:58 tyil Zoffix: that would only work decently if one uses the default 16 color, but its not uncommon for people to define their own colors in their terminal
10:58 Zoffix Ah, OK
10:58 * Zoffix &
10:58 tyil I've even made a little config change to make the console use slightly different colors to fit better with my main terminal emulator's colors
10:58 HoboWithAShotgun besides color matching ain't easy
10:59 HoboWithAShotgun i mean mathematically it is, but your brain/eyes beg to differ with the math at times
11:00 DrForr All the more reason to have a module for it so others don't have to do the math :)
11:00 hoffentlichja Zoffix: it is useful, thanks
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11:55 HoboWithAShotgun m: our enum Names ( :name1("zoffix"), :name2("holli") ); Names.enums.keys.grep("name1").first;
11:55 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: ( no output )
11:55 HoboWithAShotgun m: our enum Names ( :name1("zoffix"), :name2("holli") ); Names.enums.keys.grep("name1").first.say;
11:55 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «name1␤»
11:55 HoboWithAShotgun that's conoluted
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11:56 HoboWithAShotgun i need a need keyboard
11:57 HoboWithAShotgun there must be a better to get a enum member by $key
11:58 geekosaur m: our enum Names ( :name1("zoffix"), :name2("holli") ); dd Names.enums<name1>
11:58 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «"zoffix"␤»
11:58 geekosaur ...I have no idea what you are doing there
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11:59 geekosaur m: our enum Names ( :name1("zoffix"), :name2("holli") ); my $k = 'name1'; dd Names.enums{$k}
11:59 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «"zoffix"␤»
12:02 jnthn m: our enum Names ( :name1("zoffix"), :name2("holli") ); say Names::{"name1"}
12:02 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «zoffix␤»
12:03 jnthn Just grab it out of the package
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12:05 HoboWithAShotgun yes,  Names.enums<name1> is what i wanted
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12:07 CallMeBob m: our enum Names ( :name1("zoffix"), :name2("holli") ); say Names::{"name1"}
12:07 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «zoffix␤»
12:08 HoboWithAShotgun i didnt know you cam treat a Map like that
12:09 CallMeBob our enum Names ( :name1(" zoffix "), :name2("holli") ); say Names::{"name1"}
12:09 CallMeBob our enum Names ( :name1("zoffix"), :name2("holli") ); say Names::{"name1"}
12:11 HoboWithAShotgun nice one Bob Some::Distant::Enum::<key> looks way nicer than Some::Distant::Enum.enums<key>
12:11 CallMeBob jnthn++ said it first
12:15 HoboWithAShotgun now i wish i could control the scope better. if i declare the enum lexical in a package, it's useless. if i use our all these symbols pollute the namespace and potentially collide. and "is export" isn't working
12:17 [Coke] tyil: yup, long standing bug, thanks for the report.
12:18 tyil o/
12:18 [Coke] lizmat: note that the donate site ain't the wiki-based site.
12:18 CallMeBob HoboWithAShotgun: my enum Meows <foo bar ber>; sub EXPORT { { 'Meows' => Meows } };
12:18 HoboWithAShotgun i mean why can't i have enum cars( :suv, :misc ) and enum books( :novels, :misc ) in the same scope
12:18 CallMeBob You can.
12:18 lizmat [Coke] noted
12:19 HoboWithAShotgun please. enlighten me :)
12:19 CallMeBob -_-
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12:29 timotimo it lets you do that, it just gives a "potential difficulties". it installs an alias that errors out when you try to use it, but the error reporting seems broken at the moment
12:32 timotimo bisectable6: enum a <x y>; enum b <z y>; say y
12:32 bisectable6 timotimo, Bisecting by output (old=2015.12 new=b33c2d6) because on both starting points the exit code is 1
12:32 bisectable6 timotimo, bisect log: https://gist.github.com/e58eab90a5d0a6a05ad338efecad9321
12:32 bisectable6 timotimo, (2016-08-30) https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/76a86d4efa895a0ae25829017fbf93ccfef298af
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12:33 timotimo huh?
12:33 HoboWithAShotgun ugh. enum supports is export, i just put it in the wrong place
12:33 timotimo looks like the error reporting is only broken on my local machine
12:33 HoboWithAShotgun <-- headmeetsdesk
12:34 gfldex_work m: enum E (:a1, :b2, :c3); dd E.enums<a c>;
12:34 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «(Nil, Nil)␤»
12:35 gfldex_work m: enum E (:a1, :b2, :c3); dd E::<a c>;
12:35 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «(Any, Any)␤»
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12:35 timotimo er, that syntax works?
12:35 timotimo m: say (:a1)
12:35 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «a1 => True␤»
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12:36 timotimo m: enum E (:1a, :2b, :3c); dd E::<a c>;
12:36 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «(E::a, E::c)␤»
12:36 perlpilot m: say (:1a)
12:36 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «a => 1␤»
12:36 timotimo well, of course it works
12:37 gfldex_work if you do it right :->
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12:39 perlpilot Most times I want to give enums specific values, I want them to be represented in hexadecimal or something other than integer.
12:40 timotimo m: enum E (a => <0x99>); say E::<a>
12:40 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Multi method 'Str' with signature :(E:D $: *%_) must be resolved by class E because it exists in multiple roles (StringyEnumeration, NumericEnumeration)␤at <tmp>:1␤»
12:40 timotimo whoa.
12:40 perlpilot that is LTA for sure  :)
12:40 timotimo enums are *not* happy with allomorphs
12:41 timotimo m: enum E (dummy => 1, a => <0x99>); say E::<a>
12:41 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «===SORRY!===␤Incompatible MROs in P6opaque rebless for types IntStr and E␤»
12:41 timotimo ouch
12:42 timotimo m: enum E (dummy => Any, a => <0x99>); say E::<a>
12:42 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Cannot auto-generate a proto method for 'Int' in the setting␤at <tmp>:1␤»
12:43 perlpilot timotimo: right now it looks like you're playing a game where you try to get as many different errors from Rakudo as possible  :)
12:43 timotimo someone want to rakudobug this?
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12:46 timotimo but yeah, that would have been a way to get what perlpilot wants
12:48 timotimo m: enum E (a => 0x99 but "0x99"); say E::<a>
12:48 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «a␤»
12:48 timotimo m: enum E (a => 0x99 but "0x99"); say E::<a>.value
12:48 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «0x99␤»
12:48 timotimo perlpilot: how do you like this?
12:49 perlpilot m: enum E ( a => 0x99 ); say E::<a>;  # works fine
12:49 camelia rakudo-moar b33c2d: OUTPUT: «a␤»
12:49 perlpilot fine-ish
12:49 perlpilot :)
12:50 perlpilot anyway, I was more musing about the utility of :1a syntax (at least in my head if not aloud).   It's cute and all, but of limited utility.   I certainly like that I can say s:3x/q/s/, but .... I dunno where else it's the clear syntactic winner
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12:51 perlpilot Language design is always a balancing act, but I wonder if this particular bit of syntax will be seen by future sixers as more of a wart
12:51 timotimo i like it a lot, but i might not be future enough
12:52 moritz "you think this is cute today"
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12:53 [Coke] I think I'm cute today.
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12:55 lizmat [Coke]: you are  :-)
12:58 moritz awww :-)
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13:28 rba anyone using zef behind a http proxy? how to configure this?
13:29 rba always get "Aborting due to fetch failure: .* from git://github.com/.*" -- ssh is not allowed to the internet from this box
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13:45 tyil rba: set HTTP_PROXY
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13:45 tyil and HTTPS_PROXY
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13:58 rba tyil: I did it. Yet for git:// urls this doesn't seem to work. Have to add that proxy only works with auth (username/password)
13:59 tyil I have a couple others set here as well, and git seems to correctly try to pass through the proxy
13:59 tyil https://cry.nu/p/67mw
13:59 tyil username/password should be settable in the url
14:00 tyil just make it http://username:password@proxy-server:proxy-port
14:09 rba tyil: the env http_proxy and https_proxy did make it work. so setting proxies in .curlrc and .wgetrc is not enough
14:09 tyil the env method works best in my experience
14:10 tyil chromium and firefox seem to respect the env vars for proxies too
14:25 DrForr Checking out a 4DX theater tonight for blade runner...
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14:36 japhb .tell HoboWithAShotgun Terminal::ANSIColor does indeed support extended color escape codes, see https://github.com/tadzik/Terminal-ANSIColor/blob/master/example.pl
14:36 yoleaux japhb: I'll pass your message to HoboWithAShotgun.
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16:46 tyil :(
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16:47 timotimo finally i have utf8 again
16:48 AlexDaniel_ timotimo: should we perform the zalgo test to confirm it? :)
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16:48 squashable6 Webhook for perl6/roast is now active! Responsive is better than fast.
16:48 timotimo no thanks :\
16:49 AlexDaniel_ ohhhh I know what's wrong
16:49 AlexDaniel_ it's triggering on *any* event, oops…
16:51 tyil AlexDaniel_: pls do the zalgo test :>
16:51 * AlexDaniel_ is busy doing other tests
16:51 tyil ;~;
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16:52 squashable6 Webhook for perl6/nqp is now active! It's not fully shipped until it's fast.
16:52 tyil AlexDaniel_: are you using a module to deal with the github webhooks?
16:53 AlexDaniel_ tyil: no, but I'd highly appreciate if somebody wrote a module
16:53 tyil https://github.com/scriptkitties/perl6-IRC-Client-Plugin-Github/blob/master/lib/IRC/Client/Plugin/Github.pm6
16:53 tyil I actually made a small one for IRC::Client for use in my own bot :p
16:54 tyil its not complete yet, but it does commits, issues and PRs now
16:54 AlexDaniel_ Mine also performs HMAC tests: https://github.com/perl6/whateverable/blob/master/bin/Squashable.p6#L144-L176
16:54 AlexDaniel_ it's a mess but it does work
16:55 tyil mine currently does not, but I can look into putting that in
16:55 AlexDaniel_ feel free to take that code
16:56 tyil alright :>
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17:01 tyil AlexDaniel_: are there any other features you feel are necesary in my module to be able to consider it for your needs?
17:02 AlexDaniel_ tyil: direct access to payload data
17:02 AlexDaniel_ and headers too
17:03 Xliff What will the next squashathon be focusing on?
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17:03 AlexDaniel_ Xliff: all RT tickets, so contributions to nqp, rakudo, roast, moarvm count
17:04 AlexDaniel_ tyil: because I'm saving everything here: https://github.com/perl6/whateverable/blob/master/bin/Squashable.p6#L164-L166
17:04 AlexDaniel_ tyil: not sure why, I think the idea was that I may want to do some post-processing of this stuff later
17:04 AlexDaniel_ and IIRC github does not store more than 300 webhook or something like that, I don't remember now
17:04 AlexDaniel_ squashable6: status
17:04 squashable6 AlexDaniel_, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in ≈16 hours (2017-10-07 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day
17:05 AlexDaniel_ Xliff: there's a guide I tried to write for the squashathon, but I don't know if it's helpful. Maybe take a look anyway https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Rakudo-SQUASHathon-Guide
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17:07 Xliff AlexDaniel_: Thanks! I will.
17:08 Xliff timotimo: Yes, the squashed pair value syntax is warty. I actively discourage myself from using it.
17:08 Xliff Much prefer <key> => <value> because it is concise.
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17:10 ilmari AIUI the :42foo syntax was invented purely so s:2nd/foo/bar/ would
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17:15 robertle samcv: (or anyone) can I ask you a unicode-related question? in something like https://github.com/robertlemmen/perl6-cucumis-sextus/blob/master/lib/CucumisSextus/I18n.pm6#L348, the farsi text reads ok on the screen, but only because the characters are reveresed. this way it renders ok in a left-to-right context
17:15 samcv hello it is I
17:15 * tyil licks samcv
17:15 tyil hi :3
17:16 robertle I want to match them against a right-to-left text, now I am wondering whether reversing the string and then matching would work...
17:16 tyil AlexDaniel_: making all incoming requests saveable should be easy enough to do
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: 95803e5a84 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/Squashable.p6
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: Process ping payload to test webhooks
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable:
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: Issue #243
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: review: https://github.com/perl6/whateverable/commit/95803e5a84
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: a2ef17c698 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | services/whateverable@.service
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: Be even more forgiving about new processes
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable:
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: Some things may need more processes, and that's OK for now.
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: review: https://github.com/perl6/whateverable/commit/a2ef17c698
17:17 AlexDaniel_ tyil: or that, yeah
17:17 samcv robertle, well RTL text is still encoded the same as any other text. it's only display which is different
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: 6b2a808dd9 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | services/whateverable@.service
17:17 robertle in english it would work, e.g. 'ofenrohr'.flip ~~ /'rnef'/
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: Make watchdogs a bit less aggressive
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable:
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: Otherwise bots keep getting killed.
17:17 Geth ¦ whateverable: review: https://github.com/perl6/whateverable/commit/6b2a808dd9
17:17 samcv so for RTL text. it's still encoded the same
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17:17 samcv the "first" character comes first and last comes last
17:18 tyil AlexDaniel_: I'll get on with HMAC stuff first, that looks more useful
17:18 samcv it's only display that is different. i.e. if a user were typing it on their keyboard. (that order)
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17:18 robertle but in right-to-left text the first/rightmost character comes first in the character sequence, correct?
17:18 samcv yes. as they would type it
17:18 samcv it is only display which is different. but input is the order that it is typed in
17:18 robertle in the line I highlighted, the "first" farsi character comes last in the farsi sequence, so that it renders ok in left-to-right
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17:19 robertle so basically it is wrong, but looks correct
17:19 samcv first in rtl would be the right most
17:19 robertle but that type of wrong is all I can do in a mixed LRT and RTL file
17:20 samcv oh so you're saying it's arabic script rendering LTR?
17:20 samcv so it's reversed?
17:20 robertle correct!
17:20 samcv (in the encoding)
17:20 samcv hah
17:20 samcv you can use .flip i suppose to flip it and test against both?
17:20 robertle I believe that is the only way I can put arabic words in my text file with other languages
17:20 samcv well. it depends on what is displaying it
17:20 samcv what is your editor?
17:21 robertle right, that's what i am wondering: does the flip and match work in all cases? it does work in any script or unicode range that I understand, like the example:
17:21 robertle 'ofenrohr'.flip ~~ /'rnef'/
17:21 robertle but does that work across all unicode ranges?
17:22 robertle I guess that bils down to me not undertsanding what a "grapheme" is...
17:22 samcv yeah
17:22 samcv well. ok. it doesn't flip codepoints but flips graphemes
17:22 robertle right, and that is where my confusion comes in
17:22 samcv m: say "á"\c[COMBINING CARON]".flip
17:22 camelia rakudo-moar c73221: OUTPUT: «5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Confused␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3say "á"\7⏏5c[COMBINING CARON]".flip␤    expecting any of:␤        postfix␤»
17:23 samcv m: say "á\c[COMBINING CARON]".flip
17:23 camelia rakudo-moar c73221: OUTPUT: «á̌␤»
17:23 samcv so that isn't flipped becuase it's one grapheme. it doesn't flip codepoints. i mean what are you trying to do?
17:23 samcv who is this for? is it just because your own editor doesn't support RTL text?
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17:25 samcv at least وِیژگی shows the same in my RTL supporting editor for me at least
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17:25 samcv i can't read farsi though
17:25 robertle my editor can do rtl and left too right, but not within one line
17:26 samcv oh. maybe you should switch? Atom seems to support mixed i think.
17:26 samcv yeah it appears to support it
17:26 samcv m: "وِیژگی".flip.say
17:26 camelia rakudo-moar c73221: OUTPUT: «یگژیوِ␤»
17:26 samcv m: "وِیژگی".ords.reverse.chrs.say
17:26 camelia rakudo-moar c73221: OUTPUT: «یگژیِو␤»
17:27 samcv that's the difference between doing it by grapheme with flip and reversing the codepoints
17:27 samcv m: "وِیژگی".chars.say; "وِیژگی".codes.say
17:27 camelia rakudo-moar c73221: OUTPUT: «5␤6␤»
17:27 samcv there is one combining grapheme in there
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17:29 robertle ah, that's interesting! about the editor: that appears to be the core problem really. how to put both LTR and RTL text into one file and keeping it accessible...
17:29 squashable6 Webhook for MoarVM/MoarVM is now active! It's not fully shipped until it's fast.
17:29 AlexDaniel_ samcv: ↑ thanks :)
17:30 AlexDaniel_ timotimo: do you have access to rakudo repo settings?
17:33 robertle thinking more about it, reversing the characters in the file just to make it look right in some random cases seems to be a stupid idea...
17:33 samcv yay
17:33 samcv \o/
17:34 HoboWithAShotgun can i have method aliases? i know i can export what i want, but maybe i can do something like "method foo alias bar"
17:34 yoleaux 14:36Z <japhb> HoboWithAShotgun: Terminal::ANSIColor does indeed support extended color escape codes, see https://github.com/tadzik/Terminal-ANSIColor/blob/master/example.pl
17:34 timotimo AlexDaniel_: it doesn't seem so, no
17:34 AlexDaniel_ timotimo: do you know who does?
17:34 samcv robertle, i mean you could insert a code to force RTL? though idk if the editor doesn't support it then
17:34 samcv may be out of luck anyway. depending on what the issue is
17:37 timotimo AlexDaniel_: no clue :\
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17:40 AlexDaniel_ perlpilot: can you set up a webhook on rakudo repo for me?
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17:46 Geth ¦ doc: 218dce50db | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Cool.pod6
17:46 Geth ¦ doc: Doc EVAL(Blob)/EVALFILE encoding use
17:46 Geth ¦ doc:
17:46 Geth ¦ doc: Rakudo impl: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/6c928d61d9
17:46 Geth ¦ doc: Spec: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/6949cb13ad
17:46 synopsebot Link: https://doc.perl6.org/type/Cool
17:46 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/218dce50db
17:48 Geth ¦ doc: 01383c637e | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Cool.pod6
17:48 Geth ¦ doc: Fix EVALFILE signature / hint there's encoding stuff involved
17:48 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/01383c637e
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17:51 [Coke] `/win 3
17:52 [Coke] Not sure how I keep missing entering the contest.
17:59 AlexDaniel_ [Coke]: can you set up a webhook for squashable on rakudo repo?
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18:51 AlexDaniel_ squashable6: status
18:51 squashable6 AlexDaniel_, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in ≈15 hours (2017-10-07 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day
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18:53 perlpilot AlexDaniel_: What sort of webhook?
18:54 AlexDaniel_ perlpilot: pm-ed. That's needed for squashable
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19:01 squashable6 Webhook for rakudo/rakudo is now active! Responsive is better than fast.
19:01 AlexDaniel_ perlpilot: ↑ yay! Thanks!
19:02 AlexDaniel_ .oO( maybe squashable6 should not print the “zen” thingy from github… these seem to be a bit off-topic )
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19:31 pmurias rakudo.js nows passes 64.65% of roast tests (with very slight fudging for some unicode issues)
19:31 tyil neat
19:31 moritz pmurias++
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19:48 MasterDuke very cool
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19:48 pmurias http://blogs.perl.org/users/pawel_murias/2017/10/rakudojs-update---passes-6465-roast-test.html
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20:01 thou There seems to be an error with */tbrowder/* entries in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/perl6/ecosystem/master/META.list
20:01 thou dups pointing to various commit hashes instead of /master/
20:02 thou resulting in broken module pages, e.g. http://modules.perl6.org/dist/Text::More
20:02 moritz seems to be multiple releases
20:02 thou (I assume it's the cause of the breakage)
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20:03 moritz which breakage?
20:03 thou http://modules.perl6.org/dist/Text::More
20:03 thou none of those links go to anything useful
20:04 moritz no?
20:04 moritz https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tbrowder/Net-IP-Lite-Perl6/5c276aa50069c7bf7e6c379865ae08c7fdce971f/META6.json
20:04 moritz seems to point to version 0.1.2 of Net::IP::Lite
20:04 moritz what's not useful about that?
20:05 thou Do you find that on http://modules.perl6.org/dist/Text::More ?
20:06 thou I'm just seeing 4 links that all go to http://modules.perl6.org/dist/Text::More:github:github:tbrowder
20:06 thou and when clicking on that link, it's the same content as http://modules.perl6.org/dist/Text::More
20:06 moritz that looks like problem with modules.perl6.org to me, not with the ecosystem list
20:06 moritz or simply a "not yet implemented"
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20:08 thou could be; i'd assumed that ecosystem list wasn't intended to have multiple links for a single module
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20:13 Zoffix It's both a now-pointless dupping of entries in meta-list and a NYI on modules.perl6.org of being able to distinguish when multiple metas point to the same dist but multiple versions (they're uniqued on meta URLs)
20:13 thou I do get meaningful results from `zef search Text::More` (lists ::ver<0.1.{2, 3, 4, 7}>). That's probably not useful in this particular case but it's at least intelligible.
20:14 Zoffix thou: do you get the same for dists without multiple metas in the list? I think zef has some service running that fishes out which commits correspond to which version
20:16 thou it just shows `List::Utils` or `Test::Harness` in those two cases, no explicit version in the module name
20:17 thou Not sure if there might be some subset of modules that zef knows more version info about.
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20:17 thou I am assuming that it's looking at the META6.json files pointed to by those 4 Text-More lines in ecosystem and reporting version from there.
20:17 thou Or something similar
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20:23 thou I'd be happy to just remove the commit-hash-referenced entries and keep things simple, but perhaps there is more that should be done
20:25 Zoffix would be nice to teach mp6o to link to different versions of p6c dists
20:25 Zoffix (using the same service zef uses to find version bump commits)
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20:53 tbrowder I’ll be happy to remove all my stuff in ecosystem as soon as I upload to CPAN.  Working on it no....
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21:22 buggable New CPAN upload: Text-More-Perl6-01.8.tar.gz by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Text-More-Perl6-01.8.tar.gz
21:22 buggable New CPAN upload: Text-More-Perl6-01.8.zip by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Text-More-Perl6-01.8.zip
21:26 leont_ That doesn't look right to me
21:27 Zoffix leont_: what particularly?
21:27 Zoffix two uploads of same version?
21:27 leont_ Various files that I suspect shouldn't be there
21:28 Zoffix Ah
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21:30 Zoffix I was gonna make mp6o filter out duped dists, but on second thought, no point in keeping them in the list so I decided not to commit; diff in https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet/db0b415769ba4fe2e66cd362957dae51
21:30 Zoffix \o
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21:34 thou o/
21:36 Geth ¦ ecosystem: cd8096ae65 | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
21:36 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove Text::More which is now on CPAN
21:36 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/cd8096ae65
21:39 tbrowder Zoffix: ref dist files, you need to set some CPAN rules for META6, file names and types, etc. in the past ugexe has said zip is best, but CPAN doesn't care, and github generates both.
21:42 buggable New CPAN upload: Text-More-Perl6-0.1.8.tar.gz by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Text-More-Perl6-0.1.8.tar.gz
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21:46 tbrowder so what file(s) do you want on CPAN?
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21:50 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 2401e536b8 | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
21:50 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove Geo::Ellipsoid which is now on CPAN
21:50 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/2401e536b8
21:51 tyil https://github.com/Tyil/perl6-Ebuilder/blob/ecosystem/bin/perl6-ebuilder-ecosystem occasionally, make-ebuild dies, but the code after the make-ebuild statement seem to still be executed, even though there's a try/catch in place to call next if something in it dies
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21:52 buggable New CPAN upload: Geo-Ellipsoid-Perl6-0.2.0.tar.gz by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Geo-Ellipsoid-Perl6-0.2.0.tar.gz
21:52 buggable New CPAN upload: Geo-Ellipsoid-Perl6-0.2.0.zip by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Geo-Ellipsoid-Perl6-0.2.0.zip
21:57 teatime hrm, I thought there was a squashaton on
21:57 teatime did I miss it?
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21:59 timotimo squashable6: status
21:59 squashable6 timotimo, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in ≈12 hours (2017-10-07 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day
22:00 teatime thanks, knew the right bot but not how to ask
22:00 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 44bd501072 | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
22:00 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove META6::To::Man which is now on CPAN
22:00 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/44bd501072
22:02 buggable New CPAN upload: META6-To-Man-Perl6-0.2.0.zip by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/META6-To-Man-Perl6-0.2.0.zip
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22:13 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 5c2f1f6cf5 | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
22:13 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove Net::IP::Lite which is now on CPAN
22:13 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/5c2f1f6cf5
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22:22 buggable New CPAN upload: Net-IP-Lite-Perl6-0.1.4.zip by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Net-IP-Lite-Perl6-0.1.4.zip
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22:24 Geth ¦ ecosystem: fe41c46932 | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
22:24 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove Number::More which is now on CPAN
22:24 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/fe41c46932
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22:42 Geth ¦ ecosystem: b647dc29fd | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
22:42 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove Proc::More which is now on CPAN
22:42 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/b647dc29fd
22:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 31fc91c0ac | (Tom Browder)++ | META.list
22:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove Linux::Proc::Time which was replaced by Proc::More
22:44 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/31fc91c0ac
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22:50 Geth ¦ doc: 255d9df270 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Blob.pod6
22:50 Geth ¦ doc: Document Blob.gist trims to 100els
22:50 Geth ¦ doc:
22:50 Geth ¦ doc: Rakudo impl: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/ac8e5f430b
22:50 Geth ¦ doc: Spec: https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/1871724d47
22:50 synopsebot Link: https://doc.perl6.org/type/Blob
22:50 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/255d9df270
22:52 buggable New CPAN upload: Proc-More-Perl6-0.3.0.tar.gz by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Proc-More-Perl6-0.3.0.tar.gz
22:52 buggable New CPAN upload: Proc-More-Perl6-0.3.0.zip by TBROWDER https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/T/TB/TBROWDER/Perl6/Proc-More-Perl6-0.3.0.zip
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