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IRC log for #perl6, 2017-12-25

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00:01 tbrowder [Coke]: i prefer spaces, too, but i took them out for the table in case the resulting line was too long.
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00:01 Zoffix dogbert17: sup? Or is the SEGV what you wanted to tell me?
00:02 Zoffix wc
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00:06 tbrowder Zoffix: my PR #1339 should close  RT #130477
00:06 synopsebot RT#130477 [open]: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=130477 [BUG][POD] Pod config parses colopairs but simply stringifies whatever it matched
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00:06 wander Merry Christmas #perl6 !
00:07 yoleaux 16 Dec 2017 06:54Z <Zoffix> wander: do you have an RT account? You committed tests for a ticket ( https://github.com/perl6/roast/commit/03686da5d7f8d8c359e0ce6a538e29dc95e1d218 ) but nothing's mentioned on the ticket itself and it's still open: https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=126125#ticket-history
00:07 yoleaux 16 Dec 2017 11:29Z <AlexDaniel> wander: by any chance, does that sound relevant? https://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2017-12-15#i_15583699
00:08 tbrowder wander: Joyeaux Noel!
00:12 wander tbrowder: \o
00:17 wander .tell Zoffix I have no RT account. Thank you for close the ticket.
00:17 yoleaux wander: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
00:18 wander .tell AlexDaniel This time I forgot to send an e-mail to RT system :P
00:18 yoleaux wander: I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel.
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00:27 llfourn did perl6 ```perl6 markdown github highlighting stop working for everyone or just me?
00:27 yoleaux 7 Dec 2017 03:09Z <thou> llfourn: are you interested in getting your Untwine change merged? there are a few of us who would like to see it done, I'm willing to look at merging & testing if desired.  https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/651/commits/4acf23c991d4512b63275f7e2eff742e74df8ceb
00:28 timotimo yeah, it recently bugged out
00:28 timotimo maybe a month ago
00:30 lookatme o/
00:35 llfourn ok thx
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00:39 * sunnavy_ sunnavy
00:40 geekosaur you might need to alias /m to /n somehow :p
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01:07 AlexDaniel .
01:07 yoleaux 00:18Z <wander> AlexDaniel: This time I forgot to send an e-mail to RT system :P
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01:48 tbrowder \o lookatme
01:51 [Coke] tbrowder: it's not just a preference, it's an xt/ test
01:52 [Coke] test could probably be updated, but it seemed low impact to change the pod
01:52 tbrowder ok
01:55 tbrowder the table looks fine!
01:55 [Coke] woot
01:55 * teatime thought he was in #woodworking for a second, was looking for table pics
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02:58 Topic for #perl6 is now »ö« Welcome to Perl 6! | https://perl6.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or rakudo:,  or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: http://irc.perl6.org or http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/perl6 | UTF-8 is our friend!
02:59 Zoffix skids: sent you a bot message (in case you're looking at chat logs; since log bot was AFK when I sent it)
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05:56 wander I've just read https://perl6advent.wordpress.com/2017/12/25/bonus-xmas-concurrent-http-server-implementation-and-the-scripters-approach/
05:56 wander "But I don’t like things that grow too much and will have many changes; that’s why I like scripts, for its native procedural approach, because it promote simplicity and effectiveness quickly. I like small (step by step) things that do great things quickly."
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05:57 wander quite satisfy me :-)
06:00 wander I failed to know who "ramiroencinas" is, so just express gratitude here. It brightens my day.
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07:29 bioexpress Hello, are there rules when not to use object variables (attributes) - is it OK to use object variables to avoid passing around parameter across methods?
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07:38 Zoffix bioexpress: no, no real rules and yes, it's OK.
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07:49 Geth ¦ doc: ac31bd4b80 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Signature.pod6
07:49 Geth ¦ doc: Improve Callable signature unpack docs
07:49 Geth ¦ doc:
07:49 Geth ¦ doc: - Get rid of all "reference"s
07:49 Geth ¦ doc: - Block and Sub doesn't cover all routines; use Callable type instead
07:49 synopsebot Link: https://doc.perl6.org/type/Signature
07:49 Geth ¦ doc: - s/argument/parameter/
07:49 Geth ¦ doc: - Explain whitespace isn't allowed
07:49 Geth ¦ doc: - Indicate the shorthand only works with `&` sigils and show the long version
07:49 Geth ¦ doc:     that can be used with other sigils
07:49 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/ac31bd4b80
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08:33 teatime Zoffix: https works for anyone for pull from public repo, git will only work if they have ssh keys setup with github.  but most people who push prefer git: URL so they can use ssh keys instead of giving their github username and password every time for https
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09:55 bioexpress_ Zoffix: thx!
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10:46 Zoffix Any idea what a "subrule" with subtype of "capture" is in regexes? There's a bug in this conditional; trying to come up with code that covers it: https://github.com/perl6/nqp/blob/master/src/QRegex/P5Regex/Actions.nqp#L415
11:02 Zoffix can't hit it. Screw it. Might be just copy-pasta from P6 regexes and ain't even triggerable in P5
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12:45 * moritz would guess (...), but that's only a guess
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13:54 SmokeMachine m: say is-prime(2.5); say 2.5.is-prime
13:54 camelia rakudo-moar f01c50f1a: OUTPUT: «False␤True␤»
13:56 lizmat SmokeMachine: yeah, just realized that
13:56 lizmat working on it
13:57 SmokeMachine lizmat: thanks! I just answered the thread...
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14:42 Summertime does anyone have a repository for Advent of Code 2017 answers? I wanna compare my answers against something so I know I'm getting the "right" answers
14:44 Guest49524 https://github.com/ploeh/advent-of-code-2017
14:45 Guest49524 https://github.com/topics/advent-of-code-2017
14:47 Guest49524 https://github.com/topics/advent-of-code-2017?l=perl-6
14:47 Summertime ah! shoulda just done that yeah, thank you!
14:48 Guest49524 there's only one for P6, but there're two for P5
14:48 Guest49524 https://github.com/topics/advent-of-code-2017?l=perl
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15:12 Summertime there we go, now there is another perl 6 AoC repo ^^
15:14 titsuki_ I added my codes for AoC :)
15:17 Summertime ah thanks!
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15:50 Geth ¦ doc: dmc00++ created pull request #1723: Fix broken links
15:50 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/pull/1723
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17:03 FROGGS o/
17:03 yoleaux 11 Sep 2017 02:28Z <Xliff> FROGGS: I have a few questions about XML::LibXML if you have some time. Particularly about t/02parse.t
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17:11 lizmat FROGGS o/   # long time no see!
17:11 FROGGS hi lizmat
17:12 lizmat good to see you again  :-)
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17:12 FROGGS yeah, nice to be here :o)
17:12 lizmat it's only been 2 years...  :-)
17:13 FROGGS I'm just reading the changelog an advent calendar posts.. trying to catch up a bit
17:13 FROGGS yeah :/
17:13 FROGGS sadly
17:14 * lizmat hopes the other stuff FROGGS was busy with had a lot of enjoyment as well
17:14 FROGGS yes, the $work project was and is a lot of fun
17:14 lizmat and the home project ?   :-)
17:14 FROGGS now there is a little break, where the management is forced to finally make a decision
17:15 FROGGS ohh, the three stooges?
17:15 FROGGS they're fine :o)
17:15 lizmat hehe...  good to hear  :-)
17:15 FROGGS lots of stuff to unwrap today
17:16 lizmat cool!
17:16 * lizmat did most of her unwrapping last night
17:18 buggable New CPAN upload: PDF-Font-Loader-0.1.7.tar.gz by WARRINGD https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/W/WA/WARRINGD/Perl6/PDF-Font-Loader-0.1.7.tar.gz
17:18 FROGGS we did almost the entire wrapping last night ;o)
17:19 FROGGS took quite a while, the kids just got too much this year
17:19 lizmat I can picture the melee :-)
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17:45 FROGGS hmmm, jnthn++'s Cro looks quite promising (pun intended)... maybe I should try to port one of my Mojo apps to Cro?
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18:08 Geth ¦ doc: 896581484c | (David M. Cawthon)++ | 2 files
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: Fix broken links
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/896581484c
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: 895b987567 | (David M. Cawthon)++ | doc/Language/setbagmix.pod6
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: Fix Unicode character name
18:08 synopsebot Link: https://doc.perl6.org/language/setbagmix
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/895b987567
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: bf99e8f952 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: Merge pull request #1723 from dmc00/master
18:08 Geth ¦ doc:
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: Fix broken links
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: Thanks!
18:08 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/bf99e8f952
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18:23 dmaestro m: say ("A".."Z").grep: *.ord != 0x4c
18:23 camelia rakudo-moar 5b147fc81: OUTPUT: «(A B C D E F G H I J K M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z)␤»
18:23 dmaestro No-el
18:25 FROGGS :D
18:25 lizmat FROGGS: sounds like an excellent use of your free time  :-)
18:35 Geth ¦ doc: 760cc20879 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | doc/Type/Str.pod6
18:35 Geth ¦ doc: Fix typo
18:35 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/760cc20879
18:35 synopsebot Link: https://doc.perl6.org/type/Str
19:07 lizmat and another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: https://p6weekly.wordpress.com/2017/12/25/2017-52-when-it-is-no-more/
19:08 buggable New CPAN upload: SQL-Lexer-0.2.0.tar.gz by DMAESTRO https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/D/DM/DMAESTRO/Perl6/SQL-Lexer-0.2.0.tar.gz
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19:27 El_Che lizmat: new release? let's wake travis
19:30 jeek Hrm?
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20:24 moritz lizmat++ # p6weekly
20:28 rightfold m: sub foo { goto x; x: say 1 }; foo
20:28 camelia rakudo-moar 5b147fc81: OUTPUT: «5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Variable '&x' is not declared␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3sub foo { goto 7⏏5x; x: say 1 }; foo␤»
20:29 mspo I had a weird thought the other day
20:29 mspo I think perl6 might be a good language for writing a shell
20:34 Zoffix rightfold: we don't have goto
20:34 Zoffix m: x: goto x
20:34 camelia rakudo-moar 5b147fc81: OUTPUT: «Label.goto() not yet implemented. Sorry.␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
20:35 Zoffix m: sub foo { "goto x".EVAL; x: say 1 }; foo
20:35 camelia rakudo-moar 5b147fc81: OUTPUT: «Label.goto() not yet implemented. Sorry.␤  in block <unit> at EVAL_0 line 1␤  in sub foo at <tmp> line 1␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
20:36 Zoffix It doesn't see a post-declared label in the original code; but I guess making that work right would be part of implementing goto :)
20:41 rightfold Zoffix: :(
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21:09 gfldex m: say (-∞..∞).pick(5)
21:09 camelia rakudo-moar 5b147fc81: OUTPUT: «(Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil)␤»
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21:12 * Zoffix stashes that one into private collection
21:12 Zoffix Got a bunch of other ones with ranges there: https://gist.github.com/zoffixznet/bddafd9aa6235859fb16e304ddf22889
21:14 gfldex I tend to forget that Perl 6 is in fact not a mathematician but a mere calculator.
21:14 gfldex It is (at times) a magician tho.
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22:52 timotimo if you pick a number from -inf to inf you're almost guaranteed to get one that you can't store on all hard drives on the entire planet earth
22:53 tadzik :)
23:10 Zoffix m: say (1..∞).pick(5) # or you'll die trying
23:10 camelia rakudo-moar 8aa17f273: OUTPUT: «(Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil)␤»
23:10 Zoffix huh
23:10 Zoffix Locally that hangs
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23:11 Zoffix Ah, I typed `perl6 - 'say…` instead of `perl6 -e 'say…`
23:12 Zoffix m: say (NaN..NaN).pick(5) # this hangs tho :P
23:12 camelia rakudo-moar 8aa17f273: OUTPUT: «(timeout)»
23:40 lizmat please make these an issue
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