Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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00:20 ckraniak Blob one might help, but I think the union approach is solid enough for now. Maybe
00:20 ckraniak For the other, I'm off to read about the details of the ABI and whatnot
00:23 timotimo best of luck!
00:23 lookatme o/
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00:50 AlexDaniel lizmat: I dunno. Buggable is actually not part of whateverable. Filed it here: https://github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-buggable/issues/15
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01:16 timotimo m: say %*ENV.keys.grep(/DEPRE/)
01:16 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: OUTPUT: «(RAKUDO_NO_DEPRECATIONS)␤»
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01:16 timotimo m: BEGIN { %*ENV<RAKUDO_NO_DEPRECATIONS>:delete }; say ["hi"].&to-json
01:16 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: OUTPUT: «[␤  "hi"␤]␤Saw 1 occurrence of deprecated code.␤================================================================================␤Sub to-json (from GLOBAL) seen at:␤  SETTING::src/core/Mu.pm, line 792␤Please use JSON::Fast, JSON::Tiny or …»
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01:16 timotimo ^- points at the wrong location, shouldn't point at Mu.pm
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01:27 timotimo m: say <hi there <howdy>>
01:27 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: OUTPUT: «(hi there <howdy>)␤»
01:29 timotimo m: use Test; cmp-ok ["hi", "ho", "<howdy>"], "~~", <hi ho <howdy>>;
01:29 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: OUTPUT: «ok 1 - ␤»
01:29 timotimo how am i causing this problem ...
01:30 timotimo m: use Test; cmp-ok ["hi", "ho", "<howdy>", "<howdy again>"], "~~", <hi ho <howdy>>;
01:30 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: OUTPUT: «not ok 1 - ␤# Failed test at <tmp> line 1␤# expected: ("hi", "ho", "<howdy>")␤#  matcher: 'infix:<~~>'␤#      got: ["hi", "ho", "<howdy>", "<howdy again>"]␤»
01:30 timotimo locally i'm getting "Value of type List uselessly passed to val()"
01:35 timotimo m: my @expected = < hello goodbye <lol> >;
01:35 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: ( no output )
01:35 timotimo m: my @expected = < read outermost_sub <mainline> >;
01:35 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: ( no output )
01:35 timotimo m: my @expected = < read outermost_sub <mainline> >; say @expected
01:35 camelia rakudo-moar b4df753df: OUTPUT: «[read outermost_sub <mainline>]␤»
01:35 timotimo literally all i have to do locally is that?
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01:56 AlexDaniel u: 🙅🏻
01:56 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F645 FACE WITH NO GOOD GESTURE [So] (🙅)
01:56 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F3FB EMOJI MODIFIER FITZPATRICK TYPE-1-2 [Sk] (🏻)
01:56 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE [Cf] (control character)
01:56 AlexDaniel hey unicodable6, that's no the right order… care to sleep a bit between messages?
01:57 mspo 🙅  is a weird emoji on osx
01:57 mspo very anime
01:58 AlexDaniel mspo: the first one? https://emojipedia.org/face-with-no-good-gesture/
01:58 mspo both, really
01:58 mspo but the first one is blonde
01:59 AlexDaniel compose compose ( ) N G
02:00 AlexDaniel (for those using kragen/xcompose)
02:01 mspo AlexDaniel: I like the MS one kind of looks like an octopus
02:01 mspo for win 10
02:01 AlexDaniel haha
02:02 AlexDaniel I love it anyway. So expressive
02:02 mspo the rest... where the f are those arms coming from?  especially twitter
02:02 mspo ...women with legs-for-arms saying "NO"
02:03 mspo 🛍  <- stupid
02:04 AlexDaniel I can't tell what it is…
02:04 AlexDaniel u: 🛍
02:04 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F6CD SHOPPING BAGS [So] (🛍)
02:04 mspo 🕴️  get with it
02:05 mspo seriously considering changing my custom-uploaded :hankhill: to 🕴️ on slack for work
02:05 mspo 🕴️🕴️🕴️🕴️🕴️🕴️
02:11 mspo u: 🏩
02:11 unicodable6 mspo, U+1F3E9 LOVE HOTEL [So] (🏩)
02:11 mspo why?!
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02:28 AlexDaniel mspo: “Love hotels have enough cultural significance to be added to the first addition of emojis in unicode 6.0.”
02:29 mspo japan has an outsized infuence
02:29 mspo influence
02:29 AlexDaniel u: U+FE4BE
02:29 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+FE4BE <Plane 15 Private Use-FE4BE> [Co] (󾒾)
02:29 AlexDaniel u: U+1F3EF
02:29 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F3EF JAPANESE CASTLE [So] (🏯)
02:30 AlexDaniel ↑ that's also like a few codepoints apart
02:36 mspo japanese post office
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03:04 Topic for #perl6 is now »ö« Welcome to Perl 6! | https://perl6.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or rakudo:,  or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: http://irc.perl6.org or http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/perl6 | UTF-8 is our friend!
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03:22 TEttinger emoji, from the japanese word moji and the english word emotion...
03:23 TEttinger I can imagine why Japanese culture has an outsized influence, since their cell carriers were the first standardizers
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03:41 AlexDaniel personally I'm not worried about extra symbols that we might not need potentially
03:41 AlexDaniel it's the lack of things that drives me crazy :)
03:47 TEttinger U+31337 SIGN FOR DISAPPROVAL OF UNICODE
03:47 Guest53808 lol
03:48 TEttinger have we gotten past 3 * (65536) yet in codepoints?
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04:12 * adu <3 perl6
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05:04 ckraniak Got WriteConsoleOutput working, did both the CHAR_INFO and the COORDs as unions with DWORDS and that did it
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06:01 moritz \o
06:08 AlexDaniel o/
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09:41 DrForr .tell El_Che Need eyes on the FOSDEM bio - boss doesn't like my explanation.
09:43 DrForr ENOBOT?
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10:14 masak moritz: I just read this one and thought about you: https://thestyleofelements.org/the-art-of-the-error-message-9f878d0bff80
10:35 Ulti any protips on debugging a MAIN signature?
10:35 Ulti as in trying to discover why its constantly only ever throwing up the usage
10:37 moritz masak: I also thought of myself when reading that post :-)
10:38 masak :)
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10:39 moritz one thing that I find crucial is to not hide information in error messages, when available
10:40 moritz but otherwise, very nice post
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10:50 jast "Something went wrong, code -1"
10:52 moritz "Cannot read /etc/foo" vs "Cannot read /etc/foo: Permission Denied"
10:53 moritz this level, for example
10:53 jast "This shouldn't happen"
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10:54 jast let's not make it too straightforward... "Cannot read file: Address already in use"
10:55 masak I once read a thing about an FTP client that had the worst error message ever, where not knowing the terminology would make the user *horrified*
10:55 masak the error was something like: "Error when running process: child killed"
10:56 jast you mean like git's messages about detached HEAD? :)
10:56 masak the "detached HEAD" thing always makes me think of Nearly Headless Nick in Harry Potter
10:57 masak I do wonder whether, had it had a much milder term, the very verbose message would also have have been less panicky
10:58 jast that's semi-detached you seem to be thinking about
10:58 jast git semi-detach --hinge HEAD
10:59 masak :)
11:00 masak recently I've come to think of Git branches as laundry labels, and HEAD as the pointy-bubbly you-are-here symbol from Google Maps
11:05 moritz mixed metaphors, but not bad :-)
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11:10 jast they're more like post-its... easy to move
11:10 jast and HEAD is the post-it on a post-it (when it's not detached)
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11:28 buggable New CPAN upload: Sub-Name-0.0.2.tar.gz by ELIZABETH https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/E/EL/ELIZABETH/Perl6/Sub-Name-0.0.2.tar.gz
11:29 lizmat turned out "mi6 upload" didn't work because I had a space after my login name in the .pause file
11:34 DrForr Gotta love paste-os.
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11:42 lizmat thanks to Andreas Koenig diggin in the error log, if was quickly determine what the problem was
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11:48 lizmat *determined
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12:58 buggable New CPAN upload: Sub-Name-0.0.3.tar.gz by ELIZABETH https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/E/EL/ELIZABETH/Perl6/Sub-Name-0.0.3.tar.gz
13:14 lizmat handling the subtle difference between:
13:14 lizmat foo => { ... }
13:14 lizmat and:
13:14 lizmat "foo" => { ... }
13:15 lizmat the former being a named parameter, and the latter being a Pair positional
13:15 jnthn Only in argument lists, but yes :)
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13:20 Altreus that seems like the sort of subtlety we were trying to avoid :\
13:21 masak it's a fairly old, well-known wart of the language
13:21 masak there's a use/mention issue in there that causes it, a bit similar in structure to the semipredicate problem
13:22 masak in that it makes sense both to pass a named argument and to pass a positional Pair
13:22 jnthn Honestly, I've never found it an issue. It's a purely syntactic distinction.
13:22 masak yeah, same
13:23 masak I find it to be the same kind of syntactic convenience as the ability to leave out quotes around hash keys
13:24 ilmari m: sub foo(:$foo) { say $foo } my $foo = "foo"; foo($foo => "foo")
13:24 camelia rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>␤Strange text after block (missing semicolon or comma?)␤at <tmp>:1␤------> 3sub foo(:$foo) { say $foo }7⏏5 my $foo = "foo"; foo($foo => "foo")␤    expecting any of:␤        infix␤        …»
13:24 ilmari m: sub foo(:$foo) { say $foo }; my $foo = "foo"; foo($foo => "foo")
13:24 camelia rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1␤  in sub foo at <tmp> line 1␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
13:24 ilmari can you pass a named argument when you have the name in a variable?
13:24 masak m: sub foo(:$foo) { say $foo }; my $foo = "foo"; foo(:$foo)
13:24 camelia rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «foo␤»
13:24 masak ilmari: like that?
13:24 ilmari m: sub foo(:$foo) { say $foo }; my $arg = "foo"; foo($arg => "foo")
13:24 camelia rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1␤  in sub foo at <tmp> line 1␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
13:24 masak oh, you want the name to be from the variable
13:25 ilmari sorry, I shouldn't have named them all "foo"
13:25 ilmari from the value of the variable, not the name
13:25 ilmari i.e. runtime
13:25 jnthn There's precisely one case where the => syntax means a named argument, and it's the one where there's an identifier to the left of it.
13:25 masak guess you could flatten a hash, though
13:25 jnthn Fun fact: it's also parsed completely differently
13:25 masak *gasp* :)
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13:26 jnthn m: sub foo(:$foo) { say $foo }; my $arg = "foo"; foo(|($arg => "foo"))
13:26 camelia rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «foo␤»
13:26 jnthn Just flatten the pair in
13:26 jnthn (A Pair acts like a one-element hash for this purpose)
13:26 masak so typical of Perl :P
13:31 * masak .oO( Perl: jumping at all chances to consider a scalar a 1-element collection since 1987 ) :P
13:32 masak sorry; I've become a purist since I learned CT; they're not identical or equivalent... they're just naturally isomorphic :P
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13:36 moritz and by purist, you mean pedant, right? :-)
13:36 ilmari CT?
13:37 geekosaur category theory
13:37 ilmari ah
13:39 masak moritz: actually CT encourages a nice kind of fast-and-loose thinking in a number of places. it just has to be in the right places. :)
13:39 masak (but yes, I probably mean pedant) :P
13:40 * masak .oO( since I've got into jewelry I've become a real pendant )
13:41 * El_Che slaps masak around with a big trout
13:41 masak yeah, guess that pun was a bit fishy
13:41 El_Che hehe
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13:53 moritz masak: speaking of fast-and-loose thinking, there's a nice way to solve differential equations
13:54 moritz say, dy/dx = x
13:54 moritz as somebody who studied physics, I'm allowed to tear apart the differentials
13:54 moritz and have dy = x dx
13:54 moritz and then I slap an integral sign on both sides, and I'm good
13:54 timotimo i remember that
13:55 moritz mathemticians have... qualms with that method
13:56 masak moritz: there's half a dozen of "rules of thumb" like that, where doing the obvious thing with differentials actually works and has good rationales behind it
13:56 masak moritz: I think the reason there's even hesitation around that (and the reason you mention qualms) is that infinitesimals were at one point shown not to be rigorous in some ways
13:57 masak but -- and I'm not able to back this up with proof -- they are often rigorous enough for the rules of thumb to work
13:58 moritz masak: a prof I asked about this said there that you needed to proof certain properties of the solution function first to separate the differentials
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13:58 moritz needs to be continuous, or something like that
13:59 geekosaur don't learn your math from physics. mathematicians faint when they see renormalization >.>
13:59 moritz "and in physics, it always works" was the next sentence
13:59 masak :)
13:59 masak I'm studying complex analysis in my off hours again. it's so beautiful.
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14:00 masak it's beautiful enough that you can do analysis on the complex numbers. but the results in it are beautiful, too.
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14:02 * moritz always liked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy%27s_integral_formula
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14:03 masak ah, yes. "all the vitamins and minerals are in the peel of the orange." :P
14:03 huf ! :D
14:04 moritz and even in an infinitely small peel!
14:04 masak those are the best peels
14:05 * masak .oO( some of my best peels are infinitely thin )
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14:43 harmaahylje moritz: are you here?
14:43 moritz harmaahylje: on and off
14:44 harmaahylje can I pm you
14:45 moritz if it's something personal, sure
14:45 moritz Perl 6 stuff is better discussed here
14:46 harmaahylje it is about logs irclog.perlgeek.de, but it seems that the link in topic (colabti.org) might have what I need
15:03 Geth ¦ ecosystem: 64ab0b3924 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | META.list
15:03 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove skaji/perl6-CPAN-Uploader-Tiny; it's now on CPAN
15:03 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/64ab0b3924
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16:36 Geth ¦ doc: ba8ed096d7 | (Will Coleda)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/traps.pod6
16:36 Geth ¦ doc: fix typo
16:36 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/ba8ed096d7
16:36 synopsebot Link: https://doc.perl6.org/language/traps
16:42 [Coke] I wonder if there's a way for git log to show me that I committed it using the web editor
16:45 Geth ¦ ecosystem: c6a1b286fc | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | META.list
16:45 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove skaji/mi6; it's now on CPAN
16:45 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/c6a1b286fc
16:48 buggable New CPAN upload: Acme-Test-Module-1.0.4.tar.gz by SKAJI https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SK/SKAJI/Perl6/Acme-Test-Module-1.0.4.tar.gz
16:48 buggable New CPAN upload: App-Mi6-0.1.0.tar.gz by SKAJI https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SK/SKAJI/Perl6/App-Mi6-0.1.0.tar.gz
16:58 buggable New CPAN upload: App-Mi6-0.1.1.tar.gz by SKAJI https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SK/SKAJI/Perl6/App-Mi6-0.1.1.tar.gz
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18:17 Geth ¦ ecosystem: e1748cdd73 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | META.list
18:17 Geth ¦ ecosystem: remove skaji/perl6-HTTP-Tinyish; it's now on CPAN
18:17 Geth ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/e1748cdd73
18:28 buggable New CPAN upload: HTTP-Tinyish-0.1.0.tar.gz by SKAJI https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SK/SKAJI/Perl6/HTTP-Tinyish-0.1.0.tar.gz
18:28 buggable New CPAN upload: App-Mi6-0.1.2.tar.gz by SKAJI https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SK/SKAJI/Perl6/App-Mi6-0.1.2.tar.gz
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19:30 Geth ¦ doc: 661b0b9480 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/DateTime.pod6
19:30 Geth ¦ doc: show example output from DateTime.nolw
19:30 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/661b0b9480
19:30 synopsebot Link: https://doc.perl6.org/type/DateTime
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19:34 novalinium I'm trying to use slurp on a captured output pipe from run, and I'm getting "Invocant of method 'slurp' must be an object instance of type 'IO::Handle', not a type object of type 'IO::Pipe'." I thought that IO::Pipe inherits from IO::Handle?
19:34 Geth ¦ doc: 64cbf77584 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/DateTime.pod6
19:34 Geth ¦ doc: show more examples
19:34 Geth ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/64cbf77584
19:35 timotimo novalinium: it probably does, but you've got a type object there, not an instance
19:37 novalinium Can you point me at documentation for the difference? Minimal example of my syntax at http://ix.io/DON
19:38 timotimo well, you're trying to call slurp on an undefined object
19:38 timotimo m: my IO::Handle $handle; say $handle.slurp
19:38 camelia rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «IO::Handle is disallowed in restricted setting␤  in sub restricted at src/RESTRICTED.setting line 1␤  in method FALLBACK at src/RESTRICTED.setting line 31␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
19:39 timotimo oh, well, camelia doesn't allow IO::Handle at all
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19:39 novalinium Ah, that helped! Dropped a variable in a refactor, tyty!
19:40 timotimo that code works on my end, too
19:40 timotimo OK
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19:41 novalinium Sorry for the time sink
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19:44 timotimo no problem
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21:31 AlexDaniel e: my IO::Handle $handle; say $handle.slurp
21:31 evalable6 AlexDaniel, rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) Invocant of method 'slurp' must be an object instance of type 'IO::Handle', not a type object of type 'IO::Handle'.  Did you forget a '.new'?␤  in block <unit> at /tmp/gAxi5PhZlL line 1␤␤»
21:31 AlexDaniel timotimo: evalable6 does :)
21:34 timotimo right
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21:36 pmurias if I'm borrowing/adapting code from an open source library for nqp.js how should I do it copywrite wise?
21:37 moritz https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48145837/using-role-signature-in-mixins I seem to recall that this (using a parameterized role inside a parameterized role) simply isn't supported
21:37 moritz am I right? does anybody got a reference?
21:37 pmurias license of the stuff I'm basing my implementation on: https://github.com/ashtuchkin/iconv-lite/blob/master/LICENSE
21:39 lizmat pmurias: make sure that the copyright message is included in the copyright message of NQP-js
21:40 lizmat possibly referring to which parts
21:40 lizmat the MIT license is really free
21:46 pmurias lizmat: by copyright message you mean the LICENSE file?
21:46 lizmat yep
21:47 lizmat subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
21:47 lizmat included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
21:51 lizmat and another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: https://p6weekly.wordpress.com/2018/01/08/2018-02-fosdem-nearing/
21:51 Juerd \o/
21:52 Juerd I won't be going to fosdem this year
21:52 Juerd To those who are: have fun :)
21:54 moritz lizmat++
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22:15 AlexDaniel reportable6: list
22:15 reportable6 AlexDaniel, https://gist.github.com/ec12f13c951d88e2dd066bf9760e67bf
22:15 AlexDaniel reportable6: 2018-01-01T00:00:00Z 2018-01-08T00:00:00Z
22:15 reportable6 AlexDaniel, OK, working on it! This may take up to 40 seconds
22:16 reportable6 AlexDaniel, https://gist.github.com/b21cf622ff66fe897dad9e32ff375f18
22:16 lizmat AlexDaniel: will do the number of tickets info again next week
22:18 AlexDaniel lizmat: well, hopefully most readers will know about this page eventually https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Ticket-updates
22:18 lizmat yup, I linked to it several times already, I think.  Well at least once  :-)
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22:58 AlexDaniel u: ⏳⌛
22:58 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+23F3 HOURGLASS WITH FLOWING SAND [So] (⏳)
22:58 unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+231B HOURGLASS [So] (⌛)
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23:10 Zoffix lizmat++ good weekly
23:11 ennio good evening perl6!
23:12 Zoffix lizmat: some errata, if you wish to make corrections: "which also include a check on definedness" I don't think I added that; I made Int:D(...) coercers parse as coercers (they used to parse as just smileys).
23:12 AlexDaniel c: HEAD https://gist.githubusercontent.com/COMBORICO/dc9d458e524060763519d0a1e45fcfa1/raw/2336a580815cd2cb9dc17e146f8cffab00c7d9d1/gistfile1.txt
23:12 committable6 AlexDaniel, Successfully fetched the code from the provided URL.
23:12 committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦HEAD(14c2cdb): «===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/zIpxP4dFOD␤Variable '$raw' is not declared␤at /tmp/zIpxP4dFOD:14␤------> sub seconds ( ⏏$raw )␤ «exit code = 1»»
23:12 Zoffix lizmat: and Jeremy Studer made negated chained operators work correctly. They used to give different results. The perf was actually lost and will need to be remade again
23:13 ennio quick info: I just published a perl6 language extension for visual studio code
23:13 ennio https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=scriplit.perl6-lsp
23:14 Zoffix Well, the coercers have a check on definedness sometimes, but it's kinda broken 'cause the code used just uses the general knob for definedness
23:14 Zoffix m: -> Int:D(Any:U) { }(Any)
23:14 camelia rakudo-moar 14c2cdb31: OUTPUT: «Parameter '<anon>' of routine '<anon>' must be an object instance of type 'Any:U', not a type object of type 'Any'.  Did you forget a '.new'?␤  in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»
23:14 Zoffix ennio++ sweet
23:23 Zoffix god that stackoverflow developer survey is long AF
23:23 Zoffix This one; if you want to list you want to see Perl 6 in the list next year: https://stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_bedBQlMexcTr5WJ?award=98277c951e8c49919a0cc8d2ab1079e3&amp;site=stackoverflow.com
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23:27 Zoffix That was ridiculous. Just clicked random things for 2nd 3rd of the survey. I imagine I'm not the only one and their data is biased.
23:28 gfldex that's why it is called a "survey"
23:29 Zoffix Travis chimed in on our rakudo linux failures; tho so far only asked if we're still experiencing them: https://twitter.com/travisci/status/950463103464067073
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23:34 AlexDaniel lol it asks if I'm skipping meals to be productive
23:34 AlexDaniel yet the survey is so freaking long and boring
23:40 jnthn Goodness, what a long survey
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23:50 timotimo it is
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