Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6book, 2009-11-09

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12:05 * moritz_ bemoans the lack of book commits in the last week, and wants to encourage people to write more
12:08 jnthn :-(
12:08 jnthn Sorry.
12:09 jnthn ENGBRANCHDISTRACTING
12:15 carlin I've been thinking I could try and write something for the book on IO::Socket -- but looking at the current examples it doesn't seem like that would fit in
12:15 carlin and I can't really think of any good examples either :/
12:17 moritz_ carlin: we do plan to add some more practical chapters, for example involving DB access and web programming
12:17 moritz_ carlin: so maybe it would fit in after all
12:29 carlin Hmm, alright. If I think of an example I'll write something.
12:29 carlin fsvo something ;-)
12:38 snarkyboojum I'm happy to proof read, don't know enough Perl 6 to contribute anything :), so I'm looking forward to the next release
12:38 moritz_ snarkyboojum: no need to wait for releases to do proof-reading
12:39 masak I'll write something.
12:39 snarkyboojum I did, but haven't built the book since the first pdf
12:40 moritz_ snarkyboojum: current version is at http://moritz.faui2k3.org/tmp/book.pdf
12:40 snarkyboojum ahh.. lovely - cheers
12:40 moritz_ in particular "The Basics" is a new chapter which hasn't seen any proof-reading at all so far
12:40 moritz_ so it's likely full of spelling and grammar errors
12:40 jnthn Did anyone manage to dream up a nice roles example yet at all?
12:41 * jnthn is still trying to think of one
12:41 moritz_ snarkyboojum: also if you think something's not explained good enough, feel free to tell us
12:41 snarkyboojum moritz_: you've already included some of my typo fixes :)
12:41 snarkyboojum will do
12:41 jnthn Preferably something that I can also demo parametric roles in too.
12:41 masak jnthn: one could do something classic, like logging.
12:41 jnthn Maybe.
12:41 masak but to be honest, I'd rather do something else...
12:41 jnthn Yeah.
12:42 * jnthn wonders if the travel examples from one of his talks could work at all...
12:43 masak oh, those! yes, they might.
12:44 jnthn Would have to pad it out a bit.
12:44 moritz_ travel exaxmples?
12:44 jnthn finding slides
12:44 moritz_ solve the traveling salesman problem in polynomial time in Perl 6!
12:44 jnthn http://www.jnthn.net/papers/2008-yapc-eu-perl6oo.pdf # bonus tibet picture!
12:45 jnthn oh, this is the talk where I poked fun at the french too :-)
12:46 masak why would you poke fun at ze french? oh la la!
12:47 jnthn masak: slide 31 :-)
12:47 masak just got there. :)
12:48 jnthn For those wondering, it's a bad translation of "All your strikes are belong to us" :-)
12:49 masak it looks... odd.
12:50 masak but I guess that's what you get when you translate 'are belong to'...
12:50 jnthn To be fair, "are belong to us" looks odd in English too. ;-)
12:50 masak right.
12:51 masak let's blame the Japanese.
12:51 jnthn Good plan!
12:51 masak someone set up us the bomb!
12:51 masak how are you gentlemen!
12:56 jnthn mmm...who'da thought mould could taste so good
12:56 jnthn (blue cheese)++
13:07 masak maybe the French are onto something after all.
13:09 jnthn France is a cuisine win. :-)
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13:31 snarkyboojum what's the 'official' way to give feedback regarding the book?
13:32 moritz_ there's no 'official' way, just write your findings here
13:32 snarkyboojum k
13:35 snarkyboojum heh this is a bit lame, but minor quibble with the first sentence of the The Basics .. last part 'and report it.' should probably read, 'and reporting on it.' or something :)
13:39 moritz_ fix commited
13:39 * moritz_ waits for dalek to report it
13:39 masak heh. I just pulled and got the change, too. :)
13:40 masak 'reporting on' sounds like 'tell on' to me.
13:40 masak I'd write 'summarizing it' or something.
13:41 moritz_ snarkyboojum: if you have a github account and prefer to make small changes yourself, we can give you commit access
13:41 snarkyboojum " which means it takes care the $file stores that file handle" that doesn't seem right either
13:41 snarkyboojum not sure if these minor things are worth mentioning
13:41 moritz_ if you prefer to report things here, that's fine too
13:41 snarkyboojum yep .. I do by that name
13:41 moritz_ snarkyboojum: they are
13:41 moritz_ hugme: add snarkyboojum to book
13:41 * hugme hugs snarkyboojum. Welcome to book!
13:41 moritz_ masak: feel free to change that
13:41 snarkyboojum cool! :)
13:42 snarkyboojum ok
13:42 * masak changes that
13:45 dalek book: bf74ba8 | moritz++ | src/basics.pod:
13:45 dalek book: grammar improvement by snarkyboojum++
13:45 dalek book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/commit/bf74ba8ecdc30eb3302cf2c861a5eb59b68bc666
13:45 dalek book: a8c0d89 | masak++ | src/basics.pod:
13:45 dalek book: [basics] minor changes in the first paragraph
13:46 dalek book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/commit/a8c0d89563673b82a6bb6a4d6ea582e6c7b872a4
13:46 dalek book: 5c8417a | moritz++ | src/basics.pod:
13:46 dalek book: [basics] hopefully clarify a sentence for snarkyboojum++
13:46 dalek book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/commit/5c8417abdfa0dd3835ba0b4595c7b800c4a221cc
13:49 masak moritz_: if you start a sentence with 'However', there should usually be a comma immediately after it. same as with 'Likewise", 'Consequently", 'Thus' and other similar words which put the current sentence in relation to previous ones.
13:50 masak moritz_: the exception I can think of is something like 'However much I tried...', where 'However' does not have that function.
13:56 jnthn However hard I think, I can't come up with another example of...oh wait... :-)
14:05 dalek book: d6be394 | snarkyboojum++ | src/basics.pod:
14:05 dalek book: Minor grammatical changes
14:05 dalek book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/commit/d6be394c0b5933322f7f182e0f9340479749e2ce
14:05 snarkyboojum moritz_: I guess the standard approach is to run changes past you guys before making them?
14:06 moritz_ snarkyboojum: no, the standard approach is to commit them right away
14:06 snarkyboojum good-o
14:06 moritz_ snarkyboojum: if they are larger or controversial it's nice to discuss them here first, but small things don't need that
14:07 snarkyboojum okydoke
14:27 masak trust the anarchy.
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