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| 08:07 | masak joined #perl6book | |
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| 14:18 | dalek | book: 680b5b8 | duff++ | docs/announce/2009-11: |
| 14:18 | book: belated checkin of Nov release announcements | |
| 14:18 | book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/c[…]6c5e140e510a54993 | |
| 14:18 | book: a6ee18a | duff++ | src/preface.pod: | |
| 14:18 | book: Merge branch 'master' of git github.com:perl6/book |
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| 14:18 | book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/c[…]84311106ab62ce7f6 | |
| 14:30 | book: c40a1dd | masak++ | docs/release-guide.pod: | |
| 14:30 | book: [docs/release-guide.pod] instructions to push announcement | |
| 14:30 | book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/c[…]2abac59208ad7ef2d | |
| 14:42 | book: 69a026a | masak++ | docs/announce/2009-12: | |
| 14:42 | book: [docs/announce/2009-12] created announcement | |
| 14:42 | book: review: http://github.com/perl6/book/c[…]dc1efa807c3ad3b20 | |
| 14:42 | masak | 'ppreciate it if someone would take a look at the announcement: http://github.com/perl6/book/b[…]/announce/2009-12 |
| 14:42 | I haven't built the PDF yet, but I will now. | |
| 14:46 | jnthn | masak: Looks fine to me. :-) |
| 14:46 | masak | \o/ |
| 14:59 | having build problems :( | |
| 14:59 | http://gist.github.com/259538 | |
| 15:00 | moritz_ | masak: works here |
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| 15:00 | moritz_ | masak: is book.tex created? |
| 15:00 | * masak | looks |
| 15:01 | moritz_ | in build/ |
| 15:01 | masak | yes, but it was empty. |
| 15:01 | moritz_ | oh |
| 15:01 | masak | I removed it, now I get another error. |
| 15:01 | moritz_ | it shouldn't be |
| 15:01 | masak | hm. |
| 15:01 | it still doesn't find Pod::PseudoPod::LaTeX. | |
| 15:02 | ah. fixed. much better now. | |
| 15:08 | I think I just encountered the strangest bug of 2009. | |
| 15:09 | when uploading the file to github, I found I couldn't type lower-case 's' in the 'Description' text box. | |
| 15:09 | every time I did, focus jumped to the Search Box on github. | |
| 15:09 | in the end, I had to paste an 's' through the context menu. | |
| 15:13 | hm. I don't think I have a rakudo.org account, after all. | |
| 15:13 | should I try to get one, or should I delegate the posting? | |
| 15:13 | moritz_ | how did you post the release announcement for the rakudo release? |
| 15:13 | masak | everything's set now; only the posting remains. |
| 15:14 | moritz_ | anyway, I can post it for you if you don't have permission |
| 15:15 | masak | danke. |
| 15:16 | moritz_: I didn't. jnthn did. | |
| 15:16 | my computer had just run out of battery at that point. | |
| 15:17 | moritz_ | http://rakudo.org/node/62 |
| 15:17 | there you go | |
| 15:23 | masak | thanks! |
| 15:24 | moritz_++ | |
| 15:25 | moritz_ | masak++ for doing the release |
| 18:33 | up for some discussion? | |
| 18:35 | jnthn | I sorta need to run to the shop, but will be back in 15-20... |
| 18:35 | Or if it's quick discussion can do now before I go | |
| 18:36 | moritz_: book planning, I'm guessing? | |
| 18:37 | moritz_ | yes |
| 18:37 | about the description of builtins | |
| 18:37 | should it go into the first chapter? or be a chapter of its own? | |
| 18:42 | jnthn | Hmm. Is the intention to have a full list of the built-ins? |
| 18:43 | It feels more appendix-ish ot me. | |
| 18:43 | *to me | |
| 18:44 | As in, it's kinda referenece material-ish. | |
| 18:44 | Rather than the style of the rest of the chapters. | |
| 18:45 | brb, nomshop | |
| 19:03 | moritz_ | well |
| 19:03 | I tried to re-read the first chapterl, and pretend that I have no knowledge of Perl 6 | |
| 19:03 | and I found that I couldn't solve the excercises | |
| 19:04 | because it needs boolean negation, and that hasn't been introduced yet | |
| 19:04 | so I think we need to establish a base line | |
| 19:05 | not all builtins | |
| 19:05 | just the important ones | |
| 19:10 | jnthn | moritz_: Ah, OK, that's a fair point. |
| 19:10 | moritz_ | so since it doesn't have a major example, maybe merge it into the first chapter? |
| 19:10 | but it doesn't fit well from the flow of things | |
| 19:11 | jnthn | Yeah |
| 19:11 | And if the first chapter doesn't flow nicely, it's hardly good for drawing folks into the rest of the book. | |
| 19:21 | moritz_ | so, how do we solve this? |
| 19:28 | jnthn | Could we have exercises that don't rely on built-ins that weren't covered? Or maybe in the question say in parens like (You can use the X built-in to Y) |
| 19:28 | as a hint | |
| 19:29 | moritz_ | well, since we cover nearly no builtins in chapter one, the first alternative is kinda hard |
| 19:29 | and even if we introduce some to make the questions work, that's still not enough to enable people to write code on their own | |
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| 19:41 | jnthn | ah, true |
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