Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #perl6book, 2016-10-13

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07:37 DrForr So we be il'in now.
09:06 DrForr A tweet just popped up with "Doctor, the CMS for Markdown..."
09:06 DrForr https://t.co/DGBsJAcIa7
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10:56 moritz fwiw for https://deploybook.com/ I've created markdown blog posts, ran them through Markdown.pl to generate HTML, put the HTML into my blog; then I thought about it for a while, and created part of the manuscript from the original .md file. Not perfect, but less work than starting a new blog
10:58 [ptc] moritz: are you planning on putting this book onto leanpub in a similar manner to your deployments book?
11:01 moritz [ptc]: since I'm not the only author, that'lll need to be discussed
11:01 moritz but probably yes
11:01 moritz (though leanpub has since then started a 99USD charge for a new book, which makes me think twice about it)
11:03 moritz the incoming sales were a pretty big motivator for me to keep going
11:03 [ptc] I'll bet
11:04 moritz and I'm proud to have sold 12 copies before even declaring the manuscript complete
11:04 [ptc] that *is* really cool.  Very stoked for you!
11:05 [ptc] I'd been wondering if the Perl6 book should be in p6pod, however then I just wonder if thought is simply bikeshedding
11:06 [ptc] one motivator could be to find the rough edges on the p6pod spec
11:06 moritz the toolchain issues were fairly distracting the last time I tried that
11:06 [ptc] and "Programming Perl" was written in pod (well, pseudo pod, but mostly pod)
11:06 moritz (it was Pod::PseudoPod, not Pod6)
11:06 [ptc] yeah, that was my thought
11:06 moritz I just want to use a working toolchain
11:06 moritz leanpub, possibly softcover
11:06 [ptc] markdown is nice and simple, but getting the tooling up and going for p6pod would be a pita
11:07 [ptc] yup, one reason I asked about leanpub
12:03 * p3rln00b glances over the backlog.
12:04 p3rln00b My personal taste for Pod is it's really annoying to type with its use of < > as markers. A book in Pod would be kinda annoying.
12:05 p3rln00b perl6.party uses Markdown for posts FWIW. No conversion to HTML required: https://github.com/zoffixznet/perl6.party/tree/master/post
12:05 p3rln00b Well, MultiMarkdown with a few of my personal tweaks to insert module links and IRC conversations.
12:05 moritz p3rln00b: nice
12:51 moritz so, plan:
12:51 moritz 1) I want to grab a domain name for the book
12:51 moritz 2) I want to create a mailchimp mailing list
12:52 moritz 3) we can start blogging, and put the signup form for the mailing list on the blog posts
12:52 moritz p3rln00b: should we use your blog for that?
12:52 [ptc] do you want something like p6book.perl6.org?
12:53 moritz I thought of an independent domain
12:53 [ptc] ah, ok
12:53 moritz because for me, this is like, our personal project, not under the umbrella of the perl6 org / domain
12:53 p3rln00b Like the software of my blog to host the book blog? Sure.
12:53 p3rln00b Yeah +1 for independent domain
12:54 [ptc] agreed
12:59 p3rln00b What's the sign up form for? For people to buy a copy of the book?
13:00 moritz p3rln00b: for signing up to the mailing list. We can then use the mailing list to inform them when it's out, do some progress updates etc.
13:00 p3rln00b Ah. ok
13:00 moritz p3rln00b: maybe give them a discount for the book on leanpub, stuff like that
13:01 moritz mailing lists sound pretty old-fashioned, but they *are* good for selling stuff
13:27 p3rln00b And what the blogs will be about?
13:28 moritz well, in my previous book project, I first blogged about the topics I wanted to write about
13:29 moritz and then waited a bit, sometimes got feedback, and turned the blog post into a part of the manuscript
13:29 moritz as I wrote in my initial gist, That helped me get around my imposter syndrome, because my standards for blog posts aren't as high as for book material. Writing the manuscript directly feels sooo much harder for me.
13:30 moritz and it also helps to get people interested in the project
13:30 p3rln00b :)
13:31 moritz we don't have to do everything in that mode, but it sure helped me
13:31 moritz anyway, afk for a while
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