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IRC log for #phasers, 2011-05-10

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16:14 moritz pre-reporting, because I'll likely won't make it to the actual #phasers meeting
16:14 moritz What I did (last weeks, but forgot to report): * Updates to many .*perl6.org sites and rakudo.de. The latter now lives in a github repo * made my modules ready for Panda (tadzik++ for that awesome Panda badge) * identified name clashes in nqp vs. nqp-rx install * converted more PIR to nqp
16:14 moritz Did this past week:
16:14 moritz * more spec work in S32/Exceptions
16:15 moritz * discussed Pod6 and gsoc stuff with tadzik++
16:15 moritz * some build system tweaks in rakudo/nom
16:15 moritz Plans:
16:15 moritz * continue yelling at^W^Wsupporting tadzik
16:15 moritz * spec BackTrace, and implement BackTrace and X::Base
16:15 moritz (This kinda goes against the original plan in the grant proposal, but a slight reordering won't hurt)
16:15 moritz EOR
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18:15 pmichaud Report of last several weeks:
18:15 pmichaud * Migrated rakudo.org from Drupal to new home with WordPress
18:15 pmichaud - aka rakudoperl.org
18:15 pmichaud - See https://github.com/pmichaud/rakbench/tree/master/results for
18:15 pmichaud example results
18:15 pmichaud * Did lots of timing comparisons among Rakudo releases
18:15 pmichaud * Located a regression in Parrot's ms2 GC that was causing significant
18:15 pmichaud (50%+) slowdowns since 2011.01
18:15 pmichaud * Summary: I'm not seeing significant overall performance improvements since 2011.01
18:15 pmichaud - we are seeing good improvements in some cases for core.pm and rx.t
18:15 pmichaud * Tested various patches and tuning suggestions from #parrot
18:15 pmichaud * Got a new desktop machine (kiwi); can now run Rakudo spectests in < 5 mins
18:15 pmichaud * Fixed relational operator handling of NaN, added tests
18:15 pmichaud * Removed NaN check from is_approx() in Test.pm; provides ~4% improvement
18:15 pmichaud * Fixed RT #89972
18:16 pmichaud EOR
18:18 PerlJam pmichaud: I'm confused ... you've got some results for migrating from Drupal to Wordpress?   :-)
18:19 pmichaud PerlJam: your confusion confuses me.
18:21 PerlJam bullet order oddness. The rakbench URL appears subordinate to the Drupal -> Wordpess bullet rather than the timing comparisons bullet
18:21 pmichaud it looks correct on my screen
18:21 pmichaud maybe irssi paste got the lines out of order
18:22 masak looks that way.
18:22 pmichaud oh, no
18:22 pmichaud looks like it dropped two items altogether
18:22 pmichaud (based on irclog)
18:22 PerlJam https://gist.github.com/965052 is how it appears on mine
18:23 pmichaud yeah, somewhere irssi dropped two lines
18:23 pmichaud what I sent:
18:23 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud> * Migrated rakudo.org from Drupal to new home with WordPress
18:23 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>  - aka rakudoperl.org
18:23 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>  - We once again have working RSS feeds!
18:23 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>    example results
18:23 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud> * Did lots of timing comparisons among Rakudo releases
18:24 pmichaud it dropped lines *again*!
18:24 pmichaud I just pasted eight lines... irclog only shows five
18:24 PerlJam Are you sure it's irssi and not ubuntu 11.04 ? :-)
18:24 pmichaud PerlJam: I'm running on feather
18:24 PerlJam oh, okay.  Just checking.
18:25 pmichaud my irc screen shows the lines being pasted (with timestamps, as partially shown above)
18:25 pmichaud but somewhere between my irssi client and the rest of the channel, lines are being dropped
18:25 PerlJam Are you running irssi under screen or tmux or something?
18:25 pmichaud under screen, yes.
18:25 pmichaud let's try once more, slowly this time
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud> * Migrated rakudo.org from Drupal to new home with WordPress
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>  - aka rakudoperl.org
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>  - We once again have working RSS feeds!
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud> * Built a benchmark / regression suite for Rakudo+Parrot
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>  - http://github.com/pmichaud/rakbench
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>  - See https://github.com/pmichaud/rakbench/tree/master/results for
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>    example results
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud> * Did lots of timing comparisons among Rakudo releases
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud> * Located a regression in Parrot's ms2 GC that was causing significant
18:26 pmichaud 18:15 <pmichaud>   (50%+) slowdowns since 2011.01
18:26 pmichaud okay, the rest looks good.
18:27 pmichaud afk for a bit
18:28 pmichaud #parrotsketch got it right the first time:  http://irclog.perlgeek.de/parrotsketch/2011-05-10#i_3710430
18:29 pmichaud aha -- from another window:
18:29 pmichaud 18:15 !kornbluth.freenode.net *** Message to #phasers throttled due to flooding
18:29 pmichaud ah well.
18:29 pmichaud afk
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18:59 Util done: Nil; Blocked by travel. EOR
19:00 colomon \o
19:01 jnthn o/
19:01 Util \o
19:01 masak o/
19:03 tadzik o/
19:03 masak let's begin, shall we?
19:04 masak anyone unreported wants to report?
19:04 tadzik I'm unreported
19:04 masak ...and want to report? :)
19:04 tadzik well, I may :)
19:04 masak go ahead, sir.
19:05 tadzik some small changes in gsocmess repo, nothing significant, nothing week-worthy. Heavily distracted by @schoolwork, should be better after thursday
19:05 tadzik emm, URI became panda-friendly today
19:06 tadzik I think that'd be it :/ Gave some benchmark-testing to Rakudo regarding Parrot and Performance
19:06 tadzik that's it
19:06 masak \o/
19:06 masak more reports? jnthn?
19:06 jnthn i haz one
19:07 masak spill it.
19:07 jnthn Stuff I did on NQP...
19:07 jnthn * Fixed the last multi-method regressions
19:07 jnthn * Fixed installation issues
19:07 jnthn Stuff I did on Rakudo nom
19:07 jnthn * Added a --gen-nqp to Configure and got a basic cut of it working; moritz++ made it better
19:07 jnthn * Re-worked the build sequence; we won't build all into a single executable any more
19:07 jnthn * Added --setting=... option
19:07 jnthn * Implemented setting loading and basic library loading
19:07 jnthn * Meta-object importation from EXPORTHOW
19:07 jnthn * Got static lexpad bits in place
19:07 jnthn * Various fixes to the meta-objects I sketched out a while back, worked out ordering and got them merged
19:07 jnthn * Started the epic symbol handling refactor...it's going well
19:07 jnthn * Started the epic package handling refactor, including initial bits on compile time meta-objects
19:07 jnthn * Started working on buliding signatures/paramters at compile time
19:08 jnthn * Blug: http://6guts.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/rakudo-on-6model-gets-underway/
19:08 jnthn Over the next week
19:08 jnthn * More Rakudo nom hacking
19:08 jnthn * YAPC::Russia - Perl 6 hackathon and then 2 days conference. Got a couple of talks.
19:08 jnthn * Beer. Vodka. Other delights of being in Russia. \o/
19:08 jnthn EOR
19:08 masak wow. that's epic. :)
19:08 colomon jnthn++
19:09 Util jnthn++
19:09 masak I for one welcome back our two Rakudo core developer overlords. :)
19:09 masak pmichaud++ jnthn++
19:09 colomon masak++
19:10 TimToady .oO(keep Russian till yer Finnish...)
19:11 jnthn My trip actually *does* finish in a Finnish way... :P
19:11 masak hey, mine too! coincidence? :P
19:14 masak any more reports?
19:14 masak any questions to the contestants?
19:14 jnthn masak: How odd. :P
19:14 jnthn masak: Maybe we should meet up there :P
19:15 masak jnthn: here's an idea: let's book the same hotel :)
19:16 jnthn Clearly we should do it on booking.com \o/
19:16 masak \o/
19:16 masak seems we're done for today. thanks, everone.
19:16 masak keep up the good work!
19:17 jnthn May or may not make #phasers next week...it'll be at like 11pm Russian time. :)
19:18 masak ...so? :)
19:18 jnthn masak: I dunno...bars are open at 11 too :P
19:19 masak ;)
19:43 tadzik wrap?
19:45 * moritz is back
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