Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #phasers, 2012-01-18

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17:18 sorear pre-report:
17:19 sorear did (spec): discussed val() with jnthn, TimToady, etc; a couple spec changes resulted from our effort
17:20 sorear started prototyping val
17:22 sorear other random stuff: :(:$foo, :$bar?) bug in STD fixed; has $x; :$!x parameters; multi exporting fixes; * = 5
17:22 sorear added anon sub foo() { ... foo ... } support, based on an idea from GlitchMr++
17:23 sorear my $.x
17:24 * TimToady pictures sorear++ reading through miles of git logs... :)
17:24 sorear WILL DO: try to implement TimToady's latest ideas on <4+3i>; declarators; val() in general
17:24 sorear EOR
17:24 sorear TimToady: the best part is that half of the commits aren't even mine
17:25 sorear ...woah, v13-300
17:30 sorear o/
17:31 colomon \o
17:31 colomon Did:
17:31 colomon * Implemented chmod, chdir, IO.copy, cwd, and a very crude $*CWD for niecza
17:31 colomon * Stole printf and categorize from Rakudo for niecza
17:31 colomon * Near complete rewrite of S12-attributes/defaults.t
17:31 colomon * Modified niecza to support falling back to Real.Bridge for operations with unknown Real types
17:31 colomon * Add FatRat tests for trig test suite
17:31 colomon * Got a good bit more of roast working with niecza
17:31 colomon * Got panda to pass all its tests under niecza  (Does not actually work yet, alas.)
17:31 colomon * Blogged to wrap up Pi spigot
17:31 colomon Plan:
17:31 colomon * Make panda work completely with niecza
17:31 colomon * Blog post on Real.Bridge
17:31 colomon EOR
17:33 TimToady wowee
17:35 colomon probably most of the really important stuff I did was prodding sorear++ to implement and/or fix things.  ;)
17:40 * jnthn back
17:41 colomon o/ jnthn
17:41 jnthn I...did stuff :)
17:41 TimToady \o/
17:42 colomon \o/
17:42 jnthn Guess I needn't repeat the last week's commit list ;)
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17:43 jnthn Priority for me is fixing up the backtracking into subrules stuff
17:43 jnthn I really, really want that in Star.
17:43 colomon +1
17:43 jnthn I can fix the bug I understand, which may in turn fix many of the tests.
17:43 PerlJam And Star will be .... sometime before the end of the month?
17:43 TimToady .oO(which month?)
17:44 PerlJam jnthn knows which month  ;)
17:44 jnthn Sadly, I slept awfully last night, am tired from the day's teaching, and probably won't be able to hack a load more on it.
17:44 jnthn Star release is next week. I've fixed Zavolaj as much as I wanted, and am pretty sure I will nail the backtracking at the weekend at the latest.
17:45 jnthn Do want to make sure MiniDBI works again, but not expecting that to make long.
17:45 jnthn Got a relatively free weekend and next week ain't so busy.
17:45 PerlJam jnthn++
17:45 jnthn (Ain't so busy at work. May be pretty busy with Perl 6 stuff. ;-))
17:46 jnthn We're meant to have a Rakudo compiler release tomorrow.
17:46 PerlJam Anyone heard from pmichaud?  I texted him after the new year and he said he was hoping to be back on p6/irc soon, but I haven't heard from him since
17:47 jnthn PerlJam: Then you've heard from him more recently than me.
17:47 jnthn PerlJam: I last saw pmichaud here, before I went for Christmas break.
17:47 jnthn (here = on IRC)
17:48 moritz oh, it's already #phasering
17:48 jnthn :)
17:48 PerlJam Well, I hope he and Paula are doing okay.  I'll probably give him a call to see what's up.
17:49 moritz should we delay the compiler release until regex stuff work, and we're convinced the NCI is good enough?
17:49 jnthn PerlJam: If you do, plesae pass on my best wishes to both of them.
17:49 PerlJam jnthn: will do
17:49 TimToady and all of us
17:49 PerlJam aye, that too
17:49 moritz aye
17:49 jnthn moritz: I dunno.
17:49 jnthn moritz: How much stick do we get for delaying a compiler release a couple of days? :)
17:50 TimToady I might have a few carrots laying around...
17:50 moritz jnthn: I don't know or care
17:51 moritz jnthn: as long as we release in January, I'm fine
17:51 jnthn moritz: OK, then I'll join you in not knowing or caring.
17:51 PerlJam delaying the compiler release a few days seems fine to me.
17:51 PerlJam what moritz said.
17:51 jnthn Yeah, it only needs to be to the weekend.
17:52 jnthn (Mostly, teaching is tiring, and laptop use aggravates my RSI.)
17:52 PerlJam on the phone with pmichaud now
17:53 PerlJam he says thanks for the wishes and he'll be back on IRC on monday
17:53 jnthn ok :)
17:54 jnthn .oO( pmichaud will get tuits again once I nail regex backtracking stuff :P )
17:56 moritz jnthn: then he can fix all the list-y stuff :-)
17:56 jnthn \o/
17:56 jnthn Yeah, that would be nice :)
17:56 jnthn I don't mind having jumped into the regex engine really, though. It's increased the bus number.
17:57 jnthn And I can add les features. :)
17:58 PerlJam pmichaud sounded well.  He's just been real busy with things of late.
17:58 PerlJam (bigger bus number)++
18:00 jnthn Beyond R*, my priorities are qbootstrap, fixing bugs, adding features.
18:00 jnthn I really, really need to dig into the serialization stuff too.
18:03 * [Coke] has a late mini report.
18:04 [Coke] ooh, it's quiet. niecza has, at two instances this week, passed more spec tests than rakudo.
18:05 * [Coke] did actually write some code for niecza this week (splice, can't remember anything else.), mainly just looking for unfudge opportunities.
18:05 [Coke] .eor
18:05 sorear [Coke]++
18:07 [Coke] oh, I also did some rakudo ticket queue wrangling.
18:07 * [Coke] waves to pmichaud in the logs!
18:10 sorear (pm on monday) \o/
18:11 colomon That reminds me, I wanted to again pitch my idea of having regular code reviews for roast.....
18:12 [Coke] I assume folks are reviewing changes as they go in.
18:13 [Coke] but there some crufty stuff in there for sure. (old splice tests, e.g.)
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18:14 colomon nod.  moritz++ and I found S12-attributes/defaults.t was completely broken according to the current spec
18:15 moritz colomon: +1 to regular roast reviews
18:17 kboga did: pick rakudo's LHF of wiring up "binding to array elements" (jnthn++ # preliminary compiler support & bugfix of "MD narrowness calculation for native types")
18:18 [Coke] colomon: +1.
18:19 * colomon ponders setting up a Perl 6 Roast Review blog on wordpress...
18:19 sorear what would it do?
18:20 * sorear is still trying to figure out what to do for the 'niecza blogging' idea
18:21 colomon I was thinking it might kick off a review in the text of a post, and then comments could hash out the details.
18:21 colomon just one possible way of handling it, another might be to set a time and an IRC channel
18:22 * jnthn -> finding dinner, bbl
18:24 colomon afk # going to try skiing on what's left of the snow
18:25 PerlJam colomon: have fun!
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18:53 masak whoa! pm coming back!?
19:38 masak left #phasers
19:39 tadzik \o/
19:47 TimToady well, maybe...we must reserve pm's right to have things go not quite according to plan...
19:53 PerlJam no plan survives contact with reality
19:55 tadzik post-report: minor test hunting in Rakudo. Plans: survive

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