Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #plparrot, 2010-10-18

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20:26 davidfetter dukeleto, ping
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22:23 dukeleto davidfetter: pong
22:25 davidfetter dukeleto, how'd the hackathon go?
22:26 dukeleto very well
22:26 dukeleto parrot will most likely reorganize our process to have a few "teams" that concentrate on different things
22:27 dukeleto architecture, project management, product management, community management and QA/Kwalitee management
22:27 * davidfetter interested in how community QA works
22:27 davidfetter so about Perl6 deployments in the field...
22:28 dukeleto yeah?
22:28 davidfetter whom should i pester about what they are?
22:28 dukeleto what do you mean?
22:29 dukeleto you could ask the perl6-lang and perl6-compiler lists, i guess.
22:35 davidfetter k
22:35 * davidfetter kinda wondering how much he can put together in the next ~24 hours ;)
22:36 dukeleto what is up in the next 24hours?
22:36 dukeleto are you giving a talk?
22:36 * dukeleto forgets
22:36 davidfetter yep
22:36 davidfetter sfpug
22:36 dukeleto cool.
22:37 dukeleto davidfetter: http://pivo.jnthn.net/
22:37 dukeleto davidfetter: that is written in Rakudo and all the source is on github
22:37 * davidfetter liublu pit' pivo ;)
22:37 davidfetter liubliu*
22:37 dukeleto davidfetter: http://try.rakudo.org/ is also a good link for your pres
22:39 davidfetter that's pretty cool
22:42 davidfetter hrm. is javascript in such shape as to be PL-ified?
22:55 dukeleto there is an old JS-on-parrot project, but it is dormant. But people have been talking about reviving it
22:55 dukeleto I want to hack on it too
23:00 dukeleto davidfetter: perhaps the market segment that PL/Perl6 needs to go after is people not happy but still using PL/Perl
23:02 davidfetter dukeleto, hrm. i was thinking python and ruby users. it's more like what they're used to
23:02 dukeleto davidfetter: yes, but how many people use PL/Python or PL/Ruby ?
23:03 dukeleto davidfetter: PL/Perl is the most-used PL, after PGSQL, right?
23:03 davidfetter dukeleto, i'm not so interested in those users as in regular python, etc. users
23:03 davidfetter the ones for whom the PL will be new are a way bigger population than the ones for whom the 6 will be new ;)
23:11 dukeleto davidfetter: you are correct
23:12 dukeleto davidfetter: i am just wondering which pool the first actual user of PL/Parrot or PL/Perl6 will come from: someone who uses a PL now and wants to try a new one vs. people not currently using a PL now
23:13 dukeleto davidfetter: the second is much larger, but it might be easier to find one person in the first group
23:13 dukeleto davidfetter: it is a bootstrapping problem :)
23:15 davidfetter dukeleto, yeah, that's why i'm busting my as^Whump to get to non-pg conferences like OSDC
23:15 davidfetter (melbourne)
23:20 dukeleto davidfetter: i submitted a talk to Mysql Conf for PL/Parrot+PL/Perl6
23:20 davidfetter oh, sweet
23:20 dukeleto davidfetter: it is in CA somewhere
23:20 davidfetter yeah, santa clara iirc
23:20 davidfetter (close to san jose, if that helps)
23:24 davidfetter i was thinking about doing some "advanced SQL" stuff there
23:24 davidfetter trees and whatnot
23:24 davidfetter wCTEs ;)
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23:38 dukeleto dukeleto: so who actually uses stored procedures? or who doesn't use them yet but could benefit them?
23:38 dukeleto dukeleto: ^^^
23:38 dukeleto davidfetter: ^^^
23:39 * dukeleto is defeated by a combination of tab-complete and ignoring parts
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