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IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2014-05-28

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00:04 xarses How do you guys deal with HA controllers? I glanced over the keystone class, and It does not look like anyone does much but blast the whole role all the time. Is that really necessary? Can / should we avoid doing "init" stuff on additional roles when we share the db?
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02:22 xavpaice xarses: keystone's biggest challenge with HA is the token signing cert - but otherwise it works just fine by defining multiple
02:26 xarses xavpaice: yes, but in general, across all modules I think we can save time and reduce possible issues if we dont do things like db_sync and stuff in composition layers on addtl nodes
02:31 xavpaice at first glance, there's an exists? in the provider code already
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03:48 mmaglana hogepodge: fyi i'm setting up the jenkins job for aviator. still trying to figure out if i can use ruby 1.9.3 and 2.1.0 for running the tests. so far, i can only see 1.9.1 being installed which is not compatible. :(
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04:22 mmaglana ruby version no longer a problem, thanks to mgagne 's help! :)
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05:41 openstackgerrit Ricardo Rocha proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: define ceph::rgw.  https://review.openstack.org/96060
05:42 xarses xavpaice: using it will prevent ensure service from running, which I'd want
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05:50 openstackgerrit Ricardo Rocha proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: define ceph::rgw.  https://review.openstack.org/96060
06:04 openstackgerrit Ricardo Rocha proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: add ceph-extras repository.  https://review.openstack.org/96065
06:11 openstackgerrit Ricardo Rocha proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: add ceph-extras repository.  https://review.openstack.org/96065
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07:22 EmilienM good morning
07:33 sbadia morning
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08:04 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Configure OVS Agent when using ML2 plugin  https://review.openstack.org/82353
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08:15 aldavud dmsimard: thank you for looking through my large patchset
08:20 aldavud dmsimard: alas I'm not entirely sure I can follow with your comment on params. If you have some time, maybe we could discuss here?
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10:26 aldavud dachary: it seems splitting up the patches into patchsets where only the head would pass the CI tests broke the CI test infrastructure.
10:26 aldavud dachary: sorry about that!
10:27 dachary aldavud: it is fixed now, you can try again by adding a "run gerritexec" in a comment
10:28 aldavud dachary: great, thank you!
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11:53 dmsimard aldavud: I'm here now if you want to chat
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12:05 aldavud dmsimard: great :)
12:05 dmsimard aldavud: Do you understand my view based on what I wrote ?
12:06 aldavud dmsimard: I'm not sure.
12:07 dmsimard Usually params is where you set the defaults or the OS-dependant configuration
12:07 dmsimard I've never seen params "fetch" parameters from other classes before
12:07 aldavud dmsimard: but params only fetches them from hiera (or defines them)
12:08 dmsimard Yeah but the hiera values are set for other classes
12:08 dmsimard So it's just like you were fetching them from the other classes
12:08 dmsimard IMO
12:08 dmsimard See for example params for a couple other puppet-openstack projects
12:08 dmsimard nova: https://github.com/stackforge/puppet-nova/blob/master/manifests/params.pp
12:09 aldavud dmsimard: so my idea was to have a central location where all the hiera data gets extracted
12:09 dmsimard neutron: https://github.com/stackforge/puppet-neutron/blob/master/manifests/params.pp
12:09 dmsimard aldavud: and I think that's a good idea, too
12:09 dmsimard aldavud: In my own puppet-ceph composition layer (roles/profiles) that uses https://github.com/TelekomCloud/puppet-ceph/tree/rc/eisbrecher
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12:10 dmsimard aldavud: I have a params with defaults and I can also override the params settings and then use the params parameters across my classes as defaults
12:11 dmsimard Now, I don't mean to say "we should do it my way" but I've just never seen params used in that way before
12:11 aldavud so I should add a params which only contains the defaults
12:11 dmsimard I guess you could say I'm biased :p
12:11 aldavud and do the hiera extraction somewhere else
12:11 dmsimard yes and no
12:11 aldavud and then fall back in the hiera extraction to the values from params
12:12 dmsimard aldavud: hang on
12:14 dmsimard I have something that is non-standard (as regards to how params should be used, at least) in my composition layer
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12:14 dmsimard It looks like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/81861/
12:14 dmsimard Then I use hiera auto lookup just like you do, e.g, role::ceph::params::fsid: 'uuid'
12:15 dmsimard And the default values for my role and profile classes are fetched from params
12:16 dmsimard http://paste.openstack.org/show/81862/
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12:16 dmsimard In this way, the values can be overridden by either setting params values or class values
12:17 dmsimard I'm not sure it's the best way but it's very flexible
12:18 aldavud so maybe something like this would be better:
12:18 dmsimard *reading puppet style guide* http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/style_guide.html#class-parameter-defaults
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12:21 aldavud http://paste.openstack.org/show/81864/
12:23 dmsimard Perhaps more like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/81868/
12:25 aldavud and where should hiera be plugged in?
12:25 dmsimard in your yaml you would have ceph::profile::params::fsid: 'uuid'
12:26 aldavud hmmm, I need to use the hiera(...) lookup call to support puppet 2.7
12:26 dmsimard Ah, well, if you want to support 2.7 then :()
12:26 dmsimard :(
12:26 dmsimard Puppet is at 3.6 now !
12:27 aldavud yes, but openstack-puppet is supposed to support 2.7 and 3.1 afaik
12:27 dmsimard perhaps, I don't know. I haven't used anything below 3.1 in a very long time
12:28 dmsimard hogepodge: if you're awake, ^ ?
12:28 aldavud dropping everything before 3.6 would be great though ;)
12:28 dmsimard I don't think I would go *THAT* far :p
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12:32 aldavud dmsimard: Regarding puppet versions: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet-openstack#Supported_Platforms
12:33 dvorak seems like it'd be reasonable to drop < 3.x support for juno release
12:33 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Enable neutron server to be run in SSL mode  https://review.openstack.org/94432
12:33 dmsimard I would agree too, i'll try to ask hogepodge later.
12:35 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-swift: Restore selinux context on swift mount  https://review.openstack.org/94172
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12:36 dmsimard aldavud: I think that supporting only 3.0 > would be sane
12:37 dmsimard If anything, it could be specified in the README
12:37 dmsimard I don't know what versions we're gating against in spec/integration tests
12:37 aldavud 2.7 and 3.1 ;)
12:38 aldavud you can see them listed in the Jenkins build outputs
12:38 dmsimard oh, right, of course
12:39 dmsimard well, we can always gate only against 3.1 then :p
12:39 dmsimard that's not a problem at all
12:39 dmsimard just need to have everyone agree
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12:41 aldavud I just get the feeling that many setups are still stuck with puppet 2.7, so I'm not sure dropping it would is an option ATM
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12:47 longguang how  to  use openstack-puppet-modules  after install?
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12:51 longguang it only install  files into  user-share-puppet, if i have to write manifest by myself?
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12:55 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Add parameter to set veth MTU  https://review.openstack.org/95247
12:58 longguang any one has successful experience with puppet-openstack?
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12:59 dmsimard longguang: a good start is reading the README of the module(s) you're trying to use. They're usually good at giving you hints on how to use it
12:59 dmsimard longguang: We're all here because we use puppet-openstack or are interested in it :)
13:01 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-swift: Fix swift quota filter names  https://review.openstack.org/95832
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13:02 longguang dmsimard, how many nodes do you deploy?
13:03 dmsimard Afraid I'm not allowed to say that, but let's say a lot
13:04 longguang ok,  if some work is needed to satisfy your requirements?
13:04 longguang the source code is not enough, i am afraid
13:04 spredzy fc__, ping
13:05 dmsimard We have our own manifests/composition layer, akin of what puppet-openstack does with roles/profiles https://github.com/stackforge/puppet-openstack
13:06 longguang i want some suggession  and  make it without reading all source code first.
13:07 longguang https://github.com/stackforge/puppet-openstack  and https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-openstack  which is better?
13:08 longguang i am newbies,
13:09 longguang dmsimard, could you give me a copy of your code?
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13:17 longguang dmsimard,hi
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13:18 dmsimard longguang: Sorry, company code can't be shared
13:18 longguang dmsimard, the two links  which is your choose? which better?
13:19 dmsimard I haven't used either of them :(
13:19 longguang you said  you used it just now
13:20 longguang funny
13:20 dmsimard No, I did not. I said we have our own composition layer and it's something similar to what puppet-openstack has to offer.
13:21 longguang ok, go home now . bye....
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13:48 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-ceilometer: Default to utf8 for MySQL  https://review.openstack.org/95255
13:50 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-swift: Add dependency so swift config creation succeeds  https://review.openstack.org/95259
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13:51 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-swift: Add dependency so swift config creation succeeds  https://review.openstack.org/95868
13:54 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-swift: Fix swift quota filter names  https://review.openstack.org/95833
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13:57 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-nova: Default to utf8 for MySQL  https://review.openstack.org/95612
13:59 openstackgerrit Clayton O'Neill proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceilometer: Default to utf8 for MySQL  https://review.openstack.org/96170
13:59 openstackgerrit Mark T. Voelker proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Add parameter to set veth MTU  https://review.openstack.org/96171
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14:10 dvorak could I get some feedback on patchset two of this change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94120/
14:21 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: Enable nova server to be run in SSL mode  https://review.openstack.org/94399
14:21 markvoelker dvorak: I'm in a bit of a crunch this week but I'll try to take it for a spin this afternoon
14:22 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-cinder: Enable cinder server to be run in SSL mode  https://review.openstack.org/94395
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14:32 dvorak markvoelker: thanks!
14:33 mtl1 Hi. I'm trying to get openstack going with puppet. When I try to get the controller node going, I get: Error: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: MySQL setup failed. The inferred location of the database based on the openstack::network::management (10.200.0.0/24) hiera value is (). The explicit address from openstack::controller::address::management is 10.200.0.11. Please correct this difference.
14:35 aldavud mtl1: this usually means you need to configure the ipaddress 10.200.0.11 on an interface on that node
14:36 mtl1 aldavud: it expects the interfaces to be ifconfig'd prior to runing puppet?
14:36 aldavud yes
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15:00 mattymo puppet can't run without an ip address configured
15:03 mtl1 I did have the routable IPs configured on the nodes already, which is how they were connecting to the puppetmaster. I was expecting puppet to config the private/non-routable IPs though. Thanks.
15:03 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-ceilometer: Default to utf8 for MySQL  https://review.openstack.org/96170
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15:09 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Add parameter to set veth MTU  https://review.openstack.org/96171
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15:51 mattymo to anyone interested, we're designing Fuel's 5.1 features and we kept track in an etherpad
15:51 mattymo https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-library-5.1-design-session
15:52 mattymo we're going to finally merge with puppet-openstack in this release cycle and put a decent # of devels on it
15:52 mtl1 Hopefully 1 last question… After adding all of the non-routable IPs to the various nodes, I now get this on the controller: "Could not find resource 'Exec[neutron-db-sync]' for relationship from 'Class[Neutron::Db::Mysql]' on node osc1". Again, any advice on where I should be looking for the problem would be most appreciated.
15:52 mattymo the main 2 features that relate to this community beyond that are rewrite of keystone module to use API instead of parsing output and then ML2 instead of OVS for neutron
15:53 mattymo mtl1, in neutron::db
15:53 mattymo the sync is in there
15:54 mattymo most likely the db provider is a blank or strange string
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15:58 mtl1 mattymo: thanks. Could you tell me what/where exactly I should be looking? I haven't touched any of the modules at all, aside from setting things in the hierdata yaml. (sorry, I'm still newish to puppet)
16:00 mattymo https://github.com/stackforge/puppet-neutron/blob/master/manifests/server.pp#L150 it expects a database_connection string, but it does get validated hmm
16:00 mattymo I'm a bit rusty on this end
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16:15 mtl1 Is the openstack module not using MySQL for all database things? That line you mentioned is sqllite.
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16:25 mattymo it's a default
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17:21 dvorak mattymo: emilien already has some ml2 ovs stuff in-flight
17:21 dvorak https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82353/
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17:41 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Remove unnecessary if statement  https://review.openstack.org/96213
17:46 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Remove unnecessary if statement  https://review.openstack.org/96213
17:48 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Adding spec tests for RedHat family where needed  https://review.openstack.org/96214
17:55 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Remove unnecessary if statement  https://review.openstack.org/96213
18:00 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Adding spec tests for RedHat family where needed  https://review.openstack.org/96214
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18:05 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Support single node CS tests on CentOS 6.4  https://review.openstack.org/96215
18:12 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Checking for support of CentOS 6.4 in CI pool test  https://review.openstack.org/96217
18:19 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Checking for support of CentOS 6.4 in CI pool test  https://review.openstack.org/96217
18:28 dmsimard hogepodge:  ping ?
18:30 hogepodge dmsimard pong
18:31 dmsimard hogepodge: Should this be revisited in regards to puppet version support ? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet-openstack#Supported_Platforms
18:31 dmsimard Perhaps bump 2.7 on the low end of support to 3.1
18:33 hogepodge That’s a good question. We’re on 2.7 because package managers are still using it (notably EPEL), and CentOS 6.5 is going to be around for quite a while.
18:34 dmsimard 2.7 is starting to be old :)
18:34 dmsimard But I see where you're going
18:34 hogepodge 12.04 Ubuntu is also stuck on 2.7
18:34 hogepodge I would love nothing more than to kill 2.7, but I don’t think it’s feasible until Juno is done.
18:35 dmsimard Would you cut it for the juno release or for K ?
18:35 hogepodge We would want one release where it’s deprecated I would think. So deprecate on the J release, cut on the K release.
18:35 dmsimard Sounds reasonable
18:36 dmsimard Is there a way to have different gates per branch ?
18:36 hogepodge Let me look
18:37 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: Enable nova server to be run in SSL mode  https://review.openstack.org/94399
18:37 hogepodge zuul uses stackforge/project-name
18:38 hogepodge Would stackforge/project-name/branch target correctly? I’ll ask in openstack-infra
18:40 openstackgerrit Yanis Guenane proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-cinder: Enable cinder server to be run in SSL mode  https://review.openstack.org/94395
18:45 hogepodge dmsimard yes http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml#n606
18:45 hogepodge Someone merged changes beneath a comment that doesn’t accurately capture what the comment is saying.
18:47 dmsimard Ah, nice.
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19:02 aldavud hogepodge: dmsimard: but would we actually want to stop running puppet 2.7 gate checks before it's deprecated
19:02 aldavud and consequently stop supporting it in modules
19:11 aldavud hogepodge: looking at the zuul/layout.yaml it seems the correct way would be something like:
19:12 aldavud -name: stackforge/project-name
19:12 aldavud branch: branchname
19:14 aldavud not sure if this is only valid for jobs though or for projects as well
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19:16 aldavud http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/zuul.html#projects
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19:24 aldavud dmsimard: thanks for looking through my changes :)
19:24 dmsimard aldavud: What was the conclusion of our chat this morning about the params ?
19:24 aldavud not sure we reached one
19:25 dmsimard aldavud: switch around to using params as a base to all the parameters but keep hiera() for 2.7 support ?
19:25 aldavud i guess it really depands if I need to use the hiera() command to support 2.7 or if autoinclusion works
19:25 dmsimard dachary, xarses: ping
19:28 aldavud so like this? http://paste.openstack.org/show/81917/
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19:34 dmsimard the hiera() calls would be in params
19:34 dmsimard in the other classes you'd call $::ceph::profile::params::parameter without hiera calls
19:35 xarses dmsimard: pong
19:36 aldavud the issue is that this will give naming issues due to hiera replacing undef with ''
19:39 aldavud http://paste.openstack.org/show/81920/
19:40 aldavud ^has an error, but shows the problem
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19:42 dmsimard xarses: Should we support puppet 2.7 indefinitely ?
19:43 dmsimard xarses: hogepodge was suggesting deprecating 2.7 at juno and dropping it at K
19:43 xarses dmsimard: until we can tell people to run CentOS 7, yes we need to
19:43 dmsimard xarses: We might have some level of freedom they don't have, considering it's new and all
19:43 hogepodge I think packaging will force centos 7
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19:45 xarses hogepodge: In the OpenStack community, yes I very much agree. I would see the need to support CentOS 6 for about 6 months after the release of CentOS 7. Afterwards I'd love to explode puppet 2.7 support
19:46 xarses Python 2.6 support too ;0
19:47 aldavud 2.* or 2.6?
19:48 dmsimard Need to support python 2.7 for a while still
19:48 dmsimard Openstack isn't py3 ready :)
19:48 dmsimard I'm seeing just now functional ports/gates like python-swiftclient
19:49 aldavud at least we don't need to support puppet 2.6 anymore
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19:55 dmsimard *shivers*
20:19 blkperl and puppet 2.7 soon :)
20:20 * blkperl sees backscroll, +1 deprecating it in juno
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21:29 openstackgerrit David Moreau Simard proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-swift: Include swift::params in swift::client  https://review.openstack.org/96284
21:30 openstackgerrit David Moreau Simard proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-swift: Include swift::params in swift::client  https://review.openstack.org/96286
21:32 openstackgerrit David Moreau Simard proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-swift: Add client_package_ensure parameter and swift::client class  https://review.openstack.org/96287
21:34 openstackgerrit David Moreau Simard proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-swift: Include swift::params in swift::client  https://review.openstack.org/96289
21:42 dmsimard le seul j'ai pas fait avec le piton
21:42 dmsimard c'est le backport de swift::params au dessus de swift::client dans havana
21:42 dmsimard pinky swear
21:42 dmsimard ehhh, wrong channel :D
21:42 dmsimard mgagne: ^
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21:53 openstackgerrit David Moreau Simard proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-swift: Include swift::params in swift::client  https://review.openstack.org/96284
21:59 dachary dmsimard: pong
22:02 dmsimard dachary: We were discussing when/if we should drop puppet 2.7 support
22:05 dachary puppet-openstack is dropping support for puppet 2.7 ?
22:06 dachary dmsimard: ?
22:07 dmsimard Not yet, maybe deprecate 2.7 for J and cut at K
22:10 aldavud or at least that's the current idea and opinions are appreciated ;)
22:22 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-ceph: drop --cluster from ceph-disk activate (osd).  https://review.openstack.org/95404
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23:16 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Remove unnecessary if statement in ceph::mon  https://review.openstack.org/96213
23:17 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Adding spec tests for RedHat family where needed  https://review.openstack.org/96214
23:18 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Support single node CS tests on CentOS 6.4  https://review.openstack.org/96215
23:18 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Checking for support of CentOS 6.4 in CI pool test  https://review.openstack.org/96217
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23:25 aldavud ^ chain rebase :)
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