Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2014-07-28

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01:26 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-nova: Deprecate conductor_workers in nova::api  https://review.openstack.org/108941
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09:34 openstackgerrit Risto Laurikainen proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: Require Class['mysql::server'], not Service['mysqld'] when creating DB.  https://review.openstack.org/109942
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14:50 hogepodge Good morning!
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14:59 crinkle morning o/
15:00 xarses morning
15:00 hogepodge whoa, launchpad changed their login interface
15:00 xarses ya, like friday
15:00 xarses its annoying looking now
15:01 xarses all ubuntu one 'afied
15:01 hogepodge You’re been branded! :-)
15:01 hogepodge (meant you’ve, but the you’re makes it even better)
15:02 hogepodge So I have a few things this morning. Sorry about not getting an agenda out. I could say “weekend” etc, but that’s not really a good excuse.
15:02 hogepodge I’ve been thinking about these patches. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107365/
15:02 hogepodge I really think we should just start using openstacklib. So redo those patched to use the recently merged work and add the dependency to master.
15:11 hogepodge Well, I’ll send a message out to the e-mail thread saying the same, and ask soren to modify the patches.
15:13 markvoelker works for me...in the interim it's not hard for composition layers to select 2.2 support (we've been doing that for quite a while)
15:15 hogepodge Any other items people wanted to bring up?
15:21 xarses sounds like no =)
15:21 xarses back in a bit, moving from home to work
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16:51 aimon hodepodge Is there support for nova_netowrk in the puppetlabs-openstack module for icehouse?
16:52 aimon At first glance it looks liek no
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16:54 hogepodge aimon no
16:55 hogepodge When I wrote the module is _was_ deprecated. :-)
16:55 aimon given that it is still an enabled feature in OS and likely will be until at least juno.. why not?
16:56 aimon the SPoF of neutron is still a deal breaker for many
16:58 hogepodge aimon simplicity mostly. My intent wasn’t to have a module that did everything. I wanted it to do one thing
16:58 aimon unless somehting like the enovance solution is in, neutron is still in question
16:58 aimon hmm ok
16:59 aimon well I guess I can roll my own :)
17:01 aimon thx for the quick reply
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17:06 hogepodge yeah, if you want to add nova-net support to the module I’ll take pull requests and integrated it in
17:07 aimon Thank you! I was thinking about that
17:09 aimon I really do wish neutron was further along.. and it sounds like we are getting close. But currently unless there are hard requirements around SDN I cannot reccomend it to customers at this point.
17:09 aimon a shame because later migration will be a serious challenge
17:10 aimon I am guessing we will have to do A-B style upgrade..
17:10 aimon *upgrade/migration
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17:11 hogepodge aimon I’m having success with neutron, and it has a lot of nice features, but I’m using it on such a small scale
17:11 hogepodge every iteration gets better
17:12 hogepodge but I’d also love to have that t-shirt from the last summit (where it had all of the names crossed out with nova-network at the bottom)
17:12 aimon scale is not as much of an issue as rock solid reliability .. dealing with many 9s requirements means risks of single gateways really hurts
17:12 hogepodge yup
17:13 hogepodge I’m out for 10
17:13 aimon thx again
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19:03 crinkle xarses: I'm having trouble understanding how aviator could help with caching problems from https://bugs.launchpad.net/​puppet-neutron/+bug/1344293 , could you elaborate?
19:03 crinkle that is, elaborate on your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107546/
19:05 xarses Ok, so there are timing issues relating to using cached resources
19:06 xarses if you are say installing keystone and then install neutron and create routers all in the same puppet run
19:08 xarses you will run into this problem, when it went to evaluate the the id of the services account, it had a nil value because it was nil still from when it created the services account
19:09 xarses so my reason of pointing it out is that we have to be cautios of allowing ruby to cache values of things that could be used later inside the same puppet run
19:09 crinkle ah okay
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19:17 xarses was the other comment understandable too?
19:19 crinkle xarses: yes I believe I understand that
19:19 crinkle puppet needs to wait and retry on certain failures
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19:23 xarses yep
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22:23 xavpaice Has anyone configured horizon with multiple memcached servers rather than just the one?
22:24 * xavpaice is wondering if it's an idea to put that setting in as a list rather than a string
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23:26 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-openstack-specs: Use Aviator in Module Resources  https://review.openstack.org/107546
23:27 crinkle mgagne: xarses ^ I think I addressed your comments, please let me know if not
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