Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2014-07-31

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00:28 dvorak I thought that was what I said :)
00:28 dvorak I was distracted when we were talking before, I was probably just babbling
00:29 dvorak oh, maybe I misunderstood.  how do you think tempest could be doing that?  itd' have to be leaving routers or networks laying around,no?
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01:13 michchap dvorak: Seen this? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1060340
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01:36 dvorak yeah, I think we already have the fix for that.  we've got 1300 taps, but 73 netns
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03:03 michchap dvorak: Wow that's messed up =/
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07:46 openstackgerrit Michael Chapman proposed a change to stackforge/puppet_openstack_builder: Add ML2 support  https://review.openstack.org/108265
07:46 openstackgerrit Michael Chapman proposed a change to stackforge/puppet_openstack_builder: Add SSL termination on all public endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/110870
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08:04 openstackgerrit Michael Chapman proposed a change to stackforge/puppet_openstack_builder: Add SSL termination on all public endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/110870
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11:33 openstackgerrit Lukas Bezdicka proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Unescape value in parse_allocation_pool  https://review.openstack.org/110913
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11:56 openstackgerrit Valery Tschopp proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: unit test added for provider#get_user_and_tenant  https://review.openstack.org/110924
12:07 openstackgerrit Valery Tschopp proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: unit test added for provider#get_user_and_tenant  https://review.openstack.org/108677
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12:18 openstackgerrit Valery Tschopp proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: keystone_user_role supports email as username  https://review.openstack.org/108677
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13:33 openstackgerrit David Gurtner proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Update email information for David Gurtner  https://review.openstack.org/110958
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15:31 mgagne hogepodge: how would you designate a dependent parameterized class required by more than 1 manifest so it's auto-included but still allowing its parameterization?
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16:01 openstackgerrit A change was merged to stackforge/puppet-ceph: Update email information for David Gurtner  https://review.openstack.org/110958
16:02 hogepodge mgagne You have to make sure the parameterization happens first in parse order
16:02 hogepodge or use hiera
16:03 mgagne hogepodge: don't you agree what it's our main pain point atm to everything related to class design/split in our modules?
16:03 hogepodge mgagne and it can only be parameterized in one location
16:03 hogepodge mgagne what do you mean?
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16:05 mgagne hogepodge: I feel like this particular case (dependent parameterized class) is what prevents use from having a better class segregation, we are kind of forced to squeeze everything in the "main" class.
16:05 mgagne hogepodge: genuine use case: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109676/
16:06 mgagne hogepodge: seem thing that "prevents" us from splitting messaging parameters to its own class in our modules so we have a more slim init class
16:07 hogepodge mgagne I’ve been playing around with the idea in the pl composition module. I have classes that are parse order dependent. It gives some flexibility but yes at additional complexity. It’s too bad that a multi-pass compilation of the modules isn’t guaranteed to converge
16:07 mgagne hogepodge: only example I found so far that PL used: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-apache/blob/master/manifests/vhost.pp#L175-L178
16:07 mgagne hogepodge: it forces you to include apache class first
16:07 mgagne hogepodge: we have nothing of that sort in our modules (well, not globally)
16:08 mgagne hogepodge: and it becomes more challenging when it comes to include 3rd party classes like apache
16:09 hogepodge Is it something you’d like to use more? It adds complexity and the end use needs more knowledge, but the modules aren’t really meant for “beginners” anyway.
16:10 mgagne hogepodge: I feel like we should address it in some way, the complexity/problem shows itself when trying to add wsgi support for openstack services due to dependency on apache class
16:12 mgagne hogepodge: same with our own classes in fact. although you would like to run keystone in wsgi, you still have to include the init class so keystone is properly configured but make sure the service is not started to avoid port conflicts
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16:29 openstackgerrit Matt Fischer proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: Add support for os_region_name  https://review.openstack.org/111006
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16:32 mfisch Whats the right way to cherry-pick two commits to a stable/branch if they are related?
16:33 mfisch Commit 1: Adds items A,B,C but later Commit 2 realizing that "B" is useless, drops it
16:33 mfisch can I do 2 local CPs and then run git review?
16:35 mgagne mfisch: hmmm, try to squash them and preserve commit id in commit message while explaining the situation?
16:35 mgagne mfisch: what's what I would do I guess
16:36 mfisch I'll give that a try
16:36 mgagne mfisch: 1 review = 1 commit, you can create a topic branch and cherry-pick as much commits as you want and git review. they will all be submitted automatically
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16:53 mfisch lets see what happens...
16:54 openstackgerrit Matt Fischer proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-horizon: Enable support for secure cookies  https://review.openstack.org/111013
16:55 mfisch mgagne: the change looks right to me, hopefully the commit message is okay
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16:55 mgagne mfisch: looks fine to me
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17:00 hogepodge mgagne sorry bout dropping out there. meeting and laptops closed :-/
17:00 mgagne hogepodge: np
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17:02 hogepodge have you played around with how to manage that?
17:03 hogepodge I think that one of the hard parts about using Puppet is capturing staging vs dependencies. Two different approaches to the same problem.
17:03 mgagne hogepodge: I tried but it raised more questions than answers
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17:17 openstackgerrit Matt Fischer proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-cinder: cinder-type: delete PATH in exec  https://review.openstack.org/111019
17:17 hogepodge mgagne maybe the problem could be solved in extras, with a very opinionated way to set it up.
17:19 mgagne hogepodge: that could be an idea. we would however have to make sure people stop expecting classes in our modules to be self-sufficient I guess
17:19 hogepodge If we document it, that’s ok.
17:19 mgagne hogepodge: and explains how we expect our users to use and compose our classes
17:19 hogepodge I think that extras is special
17:19 mgagne hogepodge: yep about docs
17:20 hogepodge mgagne extras is about doing the composition work that we’re all doing independently.
17:20 hogepodge I think it’s ok to say “this is the preferred way to do this.”
17:20 mgagne hogepodge: what about puppetlabs-openstack?
17:21 mgagne hogepodge: isn't the composition work its main purpose?
17:21 hogepodge magane that’s kind of the intent of that. I swung it pretty hard in that direction. I’m just beginning to think about how to make it a useful production module for commodity hardware.
17:21 hogepodge mgagne it is. I guess we need to have a discussion with the community about what to do about it.
17:22 hogepodge it’s entirely my vision, the good and the bad, and not necessarily what people want
17:22 mgagne hogepodge: sure, I don't have any problem with that, we are all trying to find the right way
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18:51 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceilometer: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111036
18:52 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-cinder: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111037
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20:28 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-glance: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111072
20:29 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-heat: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111073
20:29 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ironic: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111074
20:29 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111075
20:30 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111076
20:30 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111077
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20:33 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ceilometer: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111036
20:36 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-glance: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111072
20:39 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-ironic: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111074
20:40 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111075
20:44 openstackgerrit Colleen Murphy proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: Migrate mysql backend to use openstacklib::db::mysql  https://review.openstack.org/111077
20:45 crinkle why do our jenkins tests use ruby 1.8.7? is it possible change it to use a newer version?
20:48 dvorak same reason they use puppet 0.27 :)
20:50 crinkle why do they use puppet 0.27 :(:(:(
20:53 rharrison dvorak, did you mean puppet 2.7?
20:53 dvorak yeah, sorry :)
20:53 * crinkle wipes brow
20:53 dvorak 0.27 and 2.7 are basically the same thing, they reset the version numbers somewhere in the 0.2x/2.x series
20:54 hogepodge because EPEL 6 and Ubuntu 12.04
20:54 hogepodge AFAIK we deprecate in Juno and kill in Kilo
20:54 crinkle \o/
20:58 rharrison dvorak, 0.25 -> 2.6 -> 2.7 if I recall correctly.
21:00 dvorak nod.  I think I went from like 0.24 to 2.7
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23:53 imcsk8 markvoelker: ping

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