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IRC log for #puppet-openstack, 2014-08-26

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03:28 openstackgerrit Michael Chapman proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-openstack_extras: Add hash based repository management  https://review.openstack.org/113922
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04:03 openstackgerrit Michael Chapman proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-openstack_extras: Add hash based repository management  https://review.openstack.org/113922
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05:11 openstackgerrit Michael Chapman proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-openstack_extras: Add hash based repository management  https://review.openstack.org/113922
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05:57 openstackgerrit Gilles Dubreuil proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-vswitch: Refacfored a more suitable ovs_redhat provider  https://review.openstack.org/94504
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06:57 EmilienM good morning
07:02 gildub EmilienM, or good afternoon :)
07:12 michchap EmilienM: good morning
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07:40 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-nova: crontab to move deleted instance rows to another database table  https://review.openstack.org/115566
07:43 openstackgerrit Emilien Macchi proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: token flushing: don't override log file  https://review.openstack.org/116816
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09:44 EmilienM michchap: I love the comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114499/
09:44 EmilienM lol
09:45 michchap EmilienM: I can see why he's confused.
09:45 michchap EmilienM: so master is still bin/false?
09:46 EmilienM michchap: I'm answering
09:46 EmilienM michchap: sent, please tell me feedback
09:59 EmilienM michchap: sbadia: we still have gate issue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115560/
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10:28 michchap EmilienM: still puppet 2.7 problem?
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11:36 EmilienM michchap: yeah
11:36 michchap EmilienM: I can't see the error. It uninstalls 3 and installs 2, why does it fail?
11:42 EmilienM michchap: looking
11:44 EmilienM michchap: sounds like ruby error?
11:47 EmilienM michchap: might it be related to ruby 1.9.1 with puppet 2.7 ?
11:47 EmilienM sbadia: --^
11:47 michchap EmilienM: example at ./spec/classes/keystone_client_spec.rb:6 (FAILED - 1)
11:47 michchap EmilienM: is that it?
11:48 EmilienM michchap: I'm looking at http://logs.openstack.org/66/115566/3/check/gate-​puppet-nova-puppet-unit-2.7/393173c/console.html
11:48 EmilienM michchap: weird, only one test fails I think it may be because it's the first one?
11:48 EmilienM i want to reproduce it
11:48 michchap EmilienM: oh. yeah it looks that way
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12:34 sbadia hi here!
12:34 sbadia EmilienM: arf :/
12:35 sbadia EmilienM: I can't reproduce this issue
12:35 sbadia (using ruby 1.9.x and puppet 2.7.x)
12:35 sbadia http://paste.debian.net/plain/117639
12:35 * sbadia take a look
12:41 openstackgerrit Lukas Bezdicka proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-keystone: Don't create _member_ role from puppet  https://review.openstack.org/116884
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12:52 hogepodge EmilienM michchap We have a puppet breakout session later today. I can try to get more eyes on the gate then.
12:52 hogepodge sbadia did you test on Trusty?
12:52 sbadia hogepodge: no, on debian jessie (but un a rvm/gemset)
12:53 sbadia I'm currently testing on trusty
12:53 sbadia s/un/in
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12:59 nibalizer srsly guys, you cant run puppet 2.7 on 1.9.3
12:59 nibalizer it breaks in all sorts of weird ways
13:00 hogepodge nibalizer I was just about to suggest that we push to merge your patch to make it non-voting.
13:01 nibalizer i didnt make that change i dont think
13:01 nibalizer the correct solution is to run 2.7 tests on precise only
13:02 nibalizer i dont know exavtly how to express that in jjb/zuul but the infra foljs
13:02 nibalizer can help us
13:02 nibalizer for immediate fix we can move all testing to precise to fix the gate
13:03 EmilienM nibalizer: there is already a patch afik, let me refind it
13:03 nibalizer a patch to do what?
13:05 EmilienM nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116169
13:06 EmilienM seems like your patch, sorry :)
13:06 nibalizer ok, thats actually my patch, i can un abandon itif we want to go forward that way
13:06 EmilienM nibalizer: I don't really know the best solution here
13:07 EmilienM I agree we should set non-voting for 2.7.
13:07 hogepodge Deprecate and make 2.7 non-voting? It’s a maintenance nightmare.
13:07 sbadia as spencer nibalizer said run 2.7 on precise, but other on trusty
13:07 EmilienM but non-voting is to me useless
13:07 sbadia EmilienM: +1
13:07 hogepodge Is RH still stuck on 2.7 because of Foreman?
13:07 EmilienM sbadia: it's the way to go, we should do this I think
13:08 EmilienM I can't talk on behalf RH, but we run Puppet 3.6 on RHEL7 without any issue.
13:08 EmilienM I'm still who is running 2.7 anyway (when deploying OpenStack)
13:08 nibalizer right!
13:09 EmilienM so I may try something to run 2.7 on precise and other on trusty, if community wants to keep 2.7 support.
13:10 hogepodge The plan was to deprecate in Fall 2014 and drop in Spring 2015
13:10 nibalizer kk
13:10 hogepodge So deprecate in Juno release.
13:10 EmilienM hogepodge: how to deprecate 2.7, by non-voting?
13:10 hogepodge If you’re still depending on it I guess the gate needs to be fixed.
13:11 EmilienM hogepodge: I wonder who is depending on it
13:11 hogepodge Deprecation is just the warning that we wont support past the next release. We still have to test against it until Spring 2015 if that’s what we’re doing.
13:12 hogepodge deprecation implies it still works.
13:12 hogepodge brb
13:15 sbadia anyway, just for the record puppet 2.7.x and ruby 1.9.x on trusty work… http://paste.debian.net/plain/117649 (jenkins slave seem's a bit weird…)
13:16 rharrison sbadia, there are some known issues with ruby 1.9 and puppet 2.7. I don't remember what they are but there were some.
13:16 sbadia rharrison: yep (i've some issue regarding deprecate code)
13:18 crinkle i would not trust that it working once means it really works. if it's not supported by puppetlabs it shouldn't be considered reliable
13:19 nibalizer ya we cant support a configuration that the developers of puppet itself wont support
13:19 sbadia :-)
13:22 nibalizer so i think we should attempt to get consensus on only testing puppet 2.7 with ruby 1.8.[57] thenmake the testing reflect that
13:22 nibalizer then the gate will be fixed
13:23 sbadia yep!
13:24 sbadia nibalizer: you want to made the changes on infra?
13:26 EmilienM sbadia: tricky change though, if you look at how are made the jobs :)
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13:29 nibalizer i think i can do it
13:29 nibalizer might take a bit to get right
13:34 sbadia EmilienM: yup I'know :) (but with execution-strategy and combination-filter I think we can do the job)
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14:34 sbadia nibalizer: ping?
14:35 sbadia any update about the gate?
14:35 sbadia combination-filter doesn't work with job-template
14:35 sbadia I've a dirty fix
14:35 sbadia (working)
14:35 sbadia http://paste.debian.net/117661/
14:36 sbadia and it's works http://paste.debian.net/plain/117660
14:36 sbadia do you think it's acceptable?
14:41 EmilienM sbadia: it looks good to me
14:42 sbadia EmilienM: thanks!
14:42 sbadia (it's a temporary patch)
14:42 sbadia i'll made a patch on infra
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14:44 EmilienM sbadia: go ahead on #openstack-infra to ask quick review. They are very responsive
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15:01 sbadia EmilienM: yep thanks (done: https://review.openstack.org/116915, cf. #openstack-infra)
15:02 EmilienM sbadia: nice one, thanks for taking care of this
15:02 sbadia np
15:09 hogepodge sbadia nice
15:09 hogepodge thanks
15:12 sbadia np :)
15:13 hogepodge I +1ed it for you sbadia.
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15:13 sbadia thanks for your comment
15:14 hogepodge Just wanted to make sure infra was looped in for our plans.
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15:49 hogepodge michchap do you want me to say things about your efforts to do upstream packaging?
15:49 hogepodge (here at the operators meetup)
15:50 michchap hogepodge: you're welcome to mention it. I have a ridiculous amount of stuff I'm trying to get done by the summit. I have some parts of the packaging bit working already but I can't promise anything.
15:52 michchap hogepodge: the general gist is: a method to produce debs and rpms, with init scripts for sysvinit and systemd by wrapping in fpm and pleasrun. Needs to build not just openstack but also all dependencies, python or otherwise. Example is taking advantage of new libvirt features by running against trunk libvirt + locally patched nova
15:52 michchap hogepodge: if someone asks you're welcome to mention it.
15:55 hogepodge Its a topic right now
15:56 hogepodge Deploying from master plus testing from master
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15:58 openstackgerrit Martin Mágr proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-neutron: Fixed manage_service feature  https://review.openstack.org/116933
16:00 hogepodge michchap there’s definitely a big interest in that. Lots of people talking about how sometimes they want to use master for agility, but don’t have good solutions.
16:01 michchap hogepodge: right. It's a key part of CI/CD. Someone will probably mention anvil, I looked at it and wasn't very impressed, though it is in use at godaddy
16:01 hogepodge no anvil talk so far
16:01 hogepodge :-)
16:01 michchap hogepodge: it also unlocks doors for the puppet modules to test vs master, and for people to easily run their own forks of things.
16:01 hogepodge Yup.
16:01 michchap hogepodge: it's 100% necessary. It was a mistake by the OS community to allow the downstreams to own package building
16:04 hogepodge It’s a 4 year old debate. I have a feeling it’s going to change. Lots of people in this room are building their own packages.
16:04 michchap yeah.
16:06 mdorman michchap:   i’m from GD and we use anvil, likeyou said.  do you have a link to your work?  we’re interested in looking at it.
16:06 mdorman i’m at the meetup, too.  i mentioned anvil yesterday and there doesn’t seem to be widespread use of that, at least in this group
16:07 michchap mdorman: it's super early. It's still a bunch of bash scripts tied together with vagrant right now. How about we schedule a time at the summit and I'll make sure I have something worth showing along with my talk (which is on serf+puppet integration)
16:07 mdorman fair enough
16:07 mdorman i would say we are definitely not 100% satisfied with anvil
16:07 michchap mdorman: I need to invent a yaml/other data format that can make it a better tool
16:07 mdorman kk
16:08 michchap mdorman: anvil is a lot better than it used to be - last time I checked early this year it didn't support init scripts, but that seems to be in now
16:08 michchap mdorman: I will ping you on here if/when I have something ready
16:09 mdorman yeah, we have done a fair amount of contribution to it.  not me, personally, the klindgren has done a bunch
16:09 mdorman s/the/but/
16:09 mdorman cool, thanks
16:12 hogepodge mdorman let’s catch up during the coffee break.
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17:11 richm EmilienM: ping - re: https://review.openstack.org/109676 - thanks for the review - I had a question
17:12 richm Where is the keystone wsgi python script installed on Debian and Ubuntu?  I can change params.pp but I don't know if the path+name is the same as it is on rhel/fedora
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17:20 nibalizer hi all
17:20 nibalizer sorry was on a plane
17:21 nibalizer did we fix the gate?
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18:34 mgagne nibalizer: testing it atm
18:35 mgagne nibalizer: lot of lag in gate
18:35 nibalizer okay
18:35 nibalizer i was jsut asking infra to merge sbadia's stuff or at least look at it
18:35 mgagne it got abandoned afaik no?
18:39 nibalizer this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116915/ ?
18:39 mgagne yes
18:39 mgagne so it's not abandoned
18:39 nibalizer doesn't look abandoned
18:39 nibalizer also has hogepodge's +1
18:39 nibalizer and my +1
18:40 mgagne there was an other change then
18:40 mgagne https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116169/
18:40 nibalizer ya that one was mine, i just re-abandoned it
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20:48 xarses EmilienM: Canada Eh?
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22:50 Topic for #puppet-openstack is now Place to collaborate on Puppet/OpenStack tools: logs at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/puppet-openstack/today
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